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Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 11:16 pm

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My son is taking his official recruiting trip this weekend to Lafayette. He does have a scholarship offer. What kind of season do you expect next year? Do you expect to repeat? Thanks.

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Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 11:36 pm

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CHAMPIONSHIP!

The Leopards should be good next year.  I think impartial observers would place Lafayette 2nd in the PL heading into next year behind Fordham. The Rams return the bulk of their team, and are top 5 potential,  With that being said we beat 'em in 2013, and are capable of doing the same in 2014.

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Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 8:00 am

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Franks Tanks wrote:
CHAMPIONSHIP!

The Leopards should be good next year. I think impartial observers would place Lafayette 2nd in the PL heading into next year behind Fordham. The Rams return the bulk of their team, and are top 5 potential, With that being said we beat 'em in 2013, and are capable of doing the same in 2014.


Fair assessment FT. Good amount of talent returns. Need to fill some holes at lber. Return a lot of offensive firepower but need depth.  Excellent team chemistry and morale. Coaches are generally players coaches and kids enjoy playing for them.

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Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 9:08 am

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SoCalFan wrote:
My son is taking his official recruiting trip this weekend to Lafayette. He does have a scholarship offer. What kind of season do you expect next year? Do you expect to repeat? Thanks.
So CalFan we have another recruit from the San Diego that might be a commit, enjoy your visit.  Lafayette is great school and an Awesome football program with great facilities.

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Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 9:34 am

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SoCalFan wrote:
My son is taking his official recruiting trip this weekend to Lafayette. He does have a scholarship offer. What kind of season do you expect next year? Do you expect to repeat? Thanks.


The schedule is easier.
Starters returning at key positions.
The depth is improving.
The kids weathered some hard times in 2013 and came through.

Should be a good season. One of our regulars on this board has stated that anything less than 8 wins would be a failure. Not sure that I totally agree, but 8-3 or even better is a possibility.  On paper, the toughest games will be (in the order played) William & Mary, Fordham and Harvard, all on the road. Anyway, you see where the thinking is at this point.

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Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 12:31 pm

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Until Lafayette gets four full classes in, I'm not sure how you can expect this program to knock off full scholarship NEC teams, who can get anyone in to school they want.
All the first four games will be tough, as well as Harvard and Fordham, who bring back their BCS transfer QB, WRs, and already have enough scholarships to play teams like Temple, like this past season.

Lafayette will be fine,and are currently on great path but the notion they should be beating full scholly teams is a bit crazy to me. They will get there, but it will take years, not days.

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Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 12:35 pm

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Zeus wrote:
Until Lafayette gets four full classes in, I'm not sure how you can expect this program to knock off full scholarship NEC teams, who can get anyone in to school they want.
All the first four games will be tough, as well as Harvard and Fordham, who bring back their BCS transfer QB, WRs, and already have enough scholarships to play teams like Temple, like this past season.

Lafayette will be fine,and are currently on great path but the notion they should be beating full scholly teams is a bit crazy to me. They will get there, but it will take years, not days.


You're talking Sacred Heart, Robert Morris and Wagner.  Lafayette should legitimately be favored in each of these games.

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Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 12:36 pm

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And why is thread in the Recruiting section?

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Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 12:59 pm

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Zeus wrote:
Until Lafayette gets four full classes in, I'm not sure how you can expect this program to knock off full scholarship NEC teams, who can get anyone in to school they want.
All the first four games will be tough, as well as Harvard and Fordham, who bring back their BCS transfer QB, WRs, and already have enough scholarships to play teams like Temple, like this past season.

Lafayette will be fine,and are currently on great path but the notion they should be beating full scholly teams is a bit crazy to me. They will get there, but it will take years, not days.


Lafayette has played, and sometimes beat real full scholarship CAA teams over the years.  We should beat NEC teams, who only have 40 scholarships by the way.

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Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 1:04 pm

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carney2 wrote:
Zeus wrote:
Until Lafayette gets four full classes in, I'm not sure how you can expect this program to knock off full scholarship NEC teams, who can get anyone in to school they want.
All the first four games will be tough, as well as Harvard and Fordham, who bring back their BCS transfer QB, WRs, and already have enough scholarships to play teams like Temple, like this past season.

Lafayette will be fine,and are currently on great path but the notion they should be beating full scholly teams is a bit crazy to me. They will get there, but it will take years, not days.


You're talking Sacred Heart, Robert Morris and Wagner. Lafayette should legitimately be favored in each of these games.


Sacred Heart will of course be a tough game, but winnable.  If we don't get 2 out of 3 against the NEC I will be severly dissapointed.

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Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 1:12 pm

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Glad to see the pards are overlooking the Red Raiders.
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Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 1:18 pm

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Glad to see the pards are overlooking the Red Raiders.


We are hopeful the Biddle curse has now ended!

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Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 3:21 pm

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[quote="Franks Tanks:38151"][quote="Zeus:38147"]Until Lafayette gets four full classes in, I'm not sure how you can expect this program to knock off full scholarship NEC teams, who can get anyone in to school they want.
All the first four games will be tough, as well as Harvard and Fordham, who bring back their BCS transfer QB, WRs, and already have enough scholarships to play teams like Temple, like this past season.

Lafayette will be fine,and are currently on great path but the notion they should be beating full scholly teams is a bit crazy to me. They will get there, but it will take years, not days.[/quote]

Lafayette has played, and sometimes beat real full scholarship CAA teams over the years. We should beat NEC teams, who only have 40 scholarships by the way.[/quote]

do you think Lafayette could sniff half of the kids who get into NEC schools?

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Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 3:40 pm

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carney2 wrote:
And why is thread in the Recruiting section?

Because that is where the parent of a recruit posted it.

Socalfan, as a parent of a player I can share a few things. I realize you asked how the team will be next year but focus on where the team is going as well as the school.

On the academic side, it's a great education. Classes are very small and professors are more accessible than you can imagine. No real grad assistants teaching classes. Good learning environment. School administration helpful and friendly. Usually easy to work through bumps in the road. Some tutoring available but maybe not as much as advertised. Nothing easy about the academics. Be repaired to manage your time and study. The patriot league is not a football factory.

Facilities are very good for football. Weight room is very nice as well as rehab and training areas. Head trainer is good. You spend more time with him than you do the position coach. You need to respect him. Everyone focuses on the head coach but you don't spend a ton of time with the head coach. The coordinators are well-respected by the kids and they enjoy playing for them. They actually care about the players as do the asst coaches. So does the head coach but you don't spend much time with him. However the kids do respect him and enjoy playing for him.

Coming from Southern California you will find Easton different however my son loves it and so do we and we are not from the northeast. The city has a lot of charm. Lots of old character, fun outdoor things to do in the summer (plan on summers in a Easton for training). Close to New York City and Philadelphia for anything you could want. Great rivalry with nearby Lehigh. Campus is beautiful with very appealing architecture. The whole environment promotes the college experience.

Lots of networking opportunities for future careers. Lots of influence in the northeast. Biggest surprise may have been the level of support from alumni. Lots of alumni close to the program that are very supportive of not just thermogram but also the kids. Each kid has a sponsor. Then you have the maws and paws group. Very close knit group. My oldest son plays in the Colonial conference and Lafayette swamps anything the do in support. Could not ask for a more supporting alumni group.

Everyone has to find what is right for them but Lafayette has been wonderful for my son and it was a huge change of environment for him. Hope you enjoy your official visit and good luck to your son in finding the right school for him. Go to Giacomo's and get a cheesesteak.

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Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 3:58 pm

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Zeus wrote:
Franks Tanks wrote:
Zeus wrote:
Until Lafayette gets four full classes in, I'm not sure how you can expect this program to knock off full scholarship NEC teams, who can get anyone in to school they want.
All the first four games will be tough, as well as Harvard and Fordham, who bring back their BCS transfer QB, WRs, and already have enough scholarships to play teams like Temple, like this past season.

Lafayette will be fine,and are currently on great path but the notion they should be beating full scholly teams is a bit crazy to me. They will get there, but it will take years, not days.


Lafayette has played, and sometimes beat real full scholarship CAA teams over the years. We should beat NEC teams, who only have 40 scholarships by the way.


do you think Lafayette could sniff half of the kids who get into NEC schools?


No, but most kids at NEC schools would be at a PL school in a second if given the opportunity. I respect the NEC, and the level of football they play, but the better teams in the PL should beat NEC schools more often than not.  Thankfully the PL should pull away from the NEC again quickly.

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Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 4:05 pm

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Franks Tanks wrote:
the better teams in the PL should beat NEC schools more often than not.


What he said.

Not getting snooty here, but, "scholly" or not, the NEC is really way down the FCS food chain.  Without scholarships, the Patriot League was pretty much eating their lunch.  Not that the Pards should be taking them lightly, as RMU (2012) and Sacred Heart (2013) showed.  But, really, were those games we should have lost?

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Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 4:18 pm

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carney2 wrote:
Franks Tanks wrote:
the better teams in the PL should beat NEC schools more often than not.


What he said.

Not getting snooty here, but, "scholly" or not, the NEC is really way down the FCS food chain. Without scholarships, the Patriot League was pretty much eating their lunch. Not that the Pards should be taking them lightly, as RMU (2012) and Sacred Heart (2013) showed.  But, really, were those games we should have lost?


No, but there have been too many of those lately.  It wasn't just us either, as Lehigh and Colgate have also been tripped up by NEC competition a few times in the last decade or so.  I wonder if losses to NEC teams helped advance the scholarship discussion at some PL schools.

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Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 4:29 pm

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Franks Tanks wrote:
I wonder if losses to NEC teams helped advance the scholarship discussion at some PL schools.


No.  Fordham advanced the scholarship discussion.  It's that simple.

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Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 12:08 am

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flyfisher wrote:
carney2 wrote:
And why is thread in the Recruiting section?

Because that is where the parent of a recruit posted it.

Socalfan, as a parent of a player I can share a few things. I realize you asked how the team will be next year but focus on where the team is going as well as the school.

On the academic side, it's a great education. Classes are very small and professors are more accessible than you can imagine. No real grad assistants teaching classes. Good learning environment. School administration helpful and friendly. Usually easy to work through bumps in the road. Some tutoring available but maybe not as much as advertised. Nothing easy about the academics. Be repaired to manage your time and study. The patriot league is not a football factory.

Facilities are very good for football. Weight room is very nice as well as rehab and training areas. Head trainer is good. You spend more time with him than you do the position coach. You need to respect him. Everyone focuses on the head coach but you don't spend a ton of time with the head coach. The coordinators are well-respected by the kids and they enjoy playing for them. They actually care about the players as do the asst coaches. So does the head coach but you don't spend much time with him. However the kids do respect him and enjoy playing for him.

Coming from Southern California you will find Easton different however my son loves it and so do we and we are not from the northeast. The city has a lot of charm. Lots of old character, fun outdoor things to do in the summer (plan on summers in a Easton for training). Close to New York City and Philadelphia for anything you could want. Great rivalry with nearby Lehigh. Campus is beautiful with very appealing architecture. The whole environment promotes the college experience.

Lots of networking opportunities for future careers. Lots of influence in the northeast. Biggest surprise may have been the level of support from alumni. Lots of alumni close to the program that are very supportive of not just thermogram but also the kids. Each kid has a sponsor. Then you have the maws and paws group. Very close knit group. My oldest son plays in the Colonial conference and Lafayette swamps anything the do in support. Could not ask for a more supporting alumni group.

Everyone has to find what is right for them but Lafayette has been wonderful for my son and it was a huge change of environment for him. Hope you enjoy your official visit and good luck to your son in finding the right school for him. Go to Giacomo's and get a cheesesteak.



Thank you for a very thoughtful post.  It was much appreciated.  My wife is there with him and they both are having a terrific time.  My wife is a Bucknell graduate so we are familiar with the academics.  The small school environment is important to him.  He fell in love with the school tonight as the coach took him and my wife around.

The recruiting, while exciting, is stressful for most kids going through it.  He is looking forward to making a decision and moving forward with the next portion of his life.  I would be surprised if he didn't select the Pards this weekend.

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Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 7:44 am

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flyfisher wrote:

Socalfan, as a parent of a player I can share a few things. I realize you asked how the team will be next year but focus on where the team is going as well as the school.

On the academic side, it's a great education. Classes are very small and professors are more accessible than you can imagine. No real grad assistants teaching classes. Good learning environment. School administration helpful and friendly. Usually easy to work through bumps in the road. Some tutoring available but maybe not as much as advertised. Nothing easy about the academics. Be repaired to manage your time and study. The patriot league is not a football factory.

Facilities are very good for football. Weight room is very nice as well as rehab and training areas. Head trainer is good. You spend more time with him than you do the position coach. You need to respect him. Everyone focuses on the head coach but you don't spend a ton of time with the head coach. The coordinators are well-respected by the kids and they enjoy playing for them. They actually care about the players as do the asst coaches. So does the head coach but you don't spend much time with him. However the kids do respect him and enjoy playing for him.

Coming from Southern California you will find Easton different however my son loves it and so do we and we are not from the northeast. The city has a lot of charm. Lots of old character, fun outdoor things to do in the summer (plan on summers in a Easton for training). Close to New York City and Philadelphia for anything you could want. Great rivalry with nearby Lehigh. Campus is beautiful with very appealing architecture. The whole environment promotes the college experience.

Lots of networking opportunities for future careers. Lots of influence in the northeast. Biggest surprise may have been the level of support from alumni. Lots of alumni close to the program that are very supportive of not just thermogram but also the kids. Each kid has a sponsor. Then you have the maws and paws group. Very close knit group. My oldest son plays in the Colonial conference and Lafayette swamps anything the do in support. Could not ask for a more supporting alumni group.

Everyone has to find what is right for them but Lafayette has been wonderful for my son and it was a huge change of environment for him. Hope you enjoy your official visit and good luck to your son in finding the right school for him. Go to Giacomo's and get a cheesesteak.



Thank you for a very thoughtful post. It was much appreciated. My wife is there with him and they both are having a terrific time. My wife is a Bucknell graduate so we are familiar with the academics. The small school environment is important to him. He fell in love with the school tonight as the coach took him and my wife around.

The recruiting, while exciting, is stressful for most kids going through it. He is looking forward to making a decision and moving forward with the next portion of his life. I would be surprised if he didn't select the Pards this weekend.

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I think Fly's post summed it up pretty nicely, especially as a current parent. As an alum of the 70's I can only echo the part about alumni network and involvement - it works for the long term. Good luck with the choice - its stressful and a big deal - am sure he will do just fine.

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