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Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2016 9:43 am

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Notables men's BB wins include two so far over Power 5 conference teams and one over the preseason Ivy favorite:

Lehigh: Mississippi State, Princeton
Bucknell:Vanderbilt

Navy came back to beat Penn, certainly a good win.

American is 0-5 and Colgate is 1-4. Langel has had time to change things. Right now perhaps fans yearn for the good old days of Emmett Davis? He's going to be a head coach again someday.

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Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2016 6:21 pm

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bethlehempard wrote:
Notables men's BB wins include two so far over Power 5 conference teams and one over the preseason Ivy favorite:

Lehigh: Mississippi State, Princeton
Bucknell:Vanderbilt

Navy came back to beat Penn, certainly a good win.

American is 0-5 and Colgate is 1-4. Langel has had time to change things. Right now perhaps fans yearn for the good old days of Emmett Davis? He's going to be a head coach again someday.


The Brown ones are clearly the team to beat. Dr. Reed has proven to be a good recruiter of athletic players. Let's see how this all shakes out.
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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2016 10:45 am

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bethlehempard wrote:
Notables men's BB wins include two so far over Power 5 conference teams and one over the preseason Ivy favorite:

Lehigh: Mississippi State, Princeton
Bucknell:Vanderbilt

Navy came back to beat Penn, certainly a good win.

American is 0-5 and Colgate is 1-4. Langel has had time to change things. Right now perhaps fans yearn for the good old days of Emmett Davis? He's going to be a head coach again someday.




I think Langel has done a good job the last few years, gradually turning around a program that had almost no young talent when he arrived.  Yes, they are 1-4, but they have played a difficult schedule, all on the road. Pomeroy's model currently ranks them as the 5th best in the PL, well ahead of #6.  Colgate has no seniors and some talented underclassmen, so the future looks good. Freshman Forward Will Rayman, who scored close to 30 points vs Penn State, will be a candidate for FOY.

As for Emmett Davis, I'd be surprised to see him turn up as a head coach again - and definitely not at the D1 level.  First, he is in his late 50's and suffered a serious heart attack a little over a year ago.  Also he had a very mediocre record coaching Colgate for over a decade, generally viewed as a good recruiter but poor game coach. Further, he seems to be settled in the Annapolis area, where he spent much of his early coaching career. . His eldest son is currently at NAPS, planning to play football at Navy next year.  His two younger sons are in HS in the area, and his wife is a HS coach and teacher there.  If he really wanted to be a head coach again, I imagine he could get a job at an academically-oriented D3 - but I would be surprised if that happens.  Possibly if DeChellis got fired at some point.

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Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2016 12:29 am

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[quote="Kpard:58135"][quote="bethlehempard:58131"]Notables men's BB wins include two so far over Power 5 conference teams and one over the preseason Ivy favorite:

Lehigh: Mississippi State, Princeton
Bucknell:Vanderbilt

Navy came back to beat Penn, certainly a good win.

American is 0-5 and Colgate is 1-4. Langel has had time to change things. Right now perhaps fans yearn for the good old days of Emmett Davis? He's going to be a head coach again someday.[/quote]

The Brown ones are clearly the team to beat. Dr. Reed has proven to be a good recruiter of athletic players. Let's see how this all shakes out.[/quote


Let's hope  someone makes Reed an offer he can't refuse since LU has been outclassing us.

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Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2016 11:03 am

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Lehigh over Mississippi State Good win: check

Bucknell over Vandy  Good win: check

Navy over Penn  Good win: Huh?

Heck, even we have defeated the Quakers each of the last four seasons.  This ain't your Fran Dunphy Penn teams.

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Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2016 1:05 pm

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adcs2 wrote:
Lehigh over Mississippi State Good win: check

Bucknell over Vandy Good win: check

Navy over Penn Good win: Huh?

Heck, even we have defeated the Quakers each of the last four seasons. This ain't your Fran Dunphy Penn teams.



Penn currently is ranked #184 (Pomeroy) - 17 spots behind St. Peter's. Penn was a 1-point favorite over Navy, so it was a nice win but hardly unexpected.

Donahue seems to have them slowly moving in the right direction, but they are nowhere close to being an Ivy contender. In the five previous years, their HIGHEST year-end ranking was #249. Definitely not like any of Dunphy's teams.

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Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2016 5:53 pm

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I would say it's a good win, but it's not among the top. That's why I noted it lower. There aren't many notable wins outside the two over SEC schools. Princeton didn't look real good at Kirby but they were the league favorite.

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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2016 10:03 am

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bethlehempard wrote:
I would say it's a good win, but it's not among the top. That's why I noted it lower. There aren't many notable wins outside the two over SEC schools. Princeton didn't look real good at Kirby but they were the league favorite.

I understand why the Ivy Preseason Poll picked Princeton because of how much Yale lost from last year. But it's starting to look like the Bulldogs are once again the team to beat in the Ancient Eight: Wins are at Washington and home over the brown team. Losses are a blowout at #6 Virginia, a 75-70 loss at Pitt (who just won 73-59 at previously unbeaten Maryland) and a buzzer-beater loss at 6-2 Vermont.

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