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Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2016 3:48 pm

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I noticed that the sophomore from Arkansas (#22) is no longer on the roster.  He never took the floor for the Pards.  This may be an indication that he never will.

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Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2016 4:33 pm

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adcs2 wrote:
I noticed that the sophomore from Arkansas (#22) is no longer on the roster. He never took the floor for the Pards. This may be an indication that he never will.


Is he leaving school?  If not, is he on scholarship the next 2 years?  We're competing with 10 scholarship players. We will lose 2 seniors. We have 2 recruits committed. So, competing with 10 again next year? Is it fair to question roster management?  What is going on?

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Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2016 4:48 pm

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Andy wrote:
adcs2 wrote:
I noticed that the sophomore from Arkansas (#22) is no longer on the roster. He never took the floor for the Pards. This may be an indication that he never will.


Is he leaving school? If not, is he on scholarship the next 2 years? We're competing with 10 scholarship players. We will lose 2 seniors. We have 2 recruits committed. So, competing with 10 again next year? Is it fair to question roster management? What is going on?
If his knee injury hasn't responded to treatment Fran could've pulled his scholarship.
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Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2016 5:23 pm

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Andy wrote:
adcs2 wrote:
I noticed that the sophomore from Arkansas (#22) is no longer on the roster. He never took the floor for the Pards. This may be an indication that he never will.


Is he leaving school? If not, is he on scholarship the next 2 years? We're competing with 10 scholarship players. We will lose 2 seniors. We have 2 recruits committed. So, competing with 10 again next year? Is it fair to question roster management? What is going on?


He's no longer on the team. Don't now if he's leaving the school at end of semester.
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Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2016 6:53 pm

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BillS wrote:
Andy wrote:
adcs2 wrote:
I noticed that the sophomore from Arkansas (#22) is no longer on the roster. He never took the floor for the Pards. This may be an indication that he never will.


Is he leaving school? If not, is he on scholarship the next 2 years? We're competing with 10 scholarship players. We will lose 2 seniors. We have 2 recruits committed. So, competing with 10 again next year? Is it fair to question roster management? What is going on?


If his knee injury hasn't responded to treatment Fran could've pulled his scholarship.



A scholarship cannot be pulled mid year due to injury or performance.

If he has an injury that is serious enough to prevent him from being able to play again, I would think LC would still honor the scholarship for four years. It would not count against the 13-scholarship limit in that case.

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Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2016 7:11 pm

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I have heard rumblings of two things about this situation (1) the injury was concealed from the coaching staff prior to arrival on College Hill and (2) a question as to whether maximum effort was being given to getting on the court and contribute.

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Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2016 7:25 pm

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If that's true, wow. We seem to not have adjusted to the scholarship era. Too many transfers out, and now this type of activity. In some ways it was more fun with over acheiving non schollies.
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Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2016 3:48 pm

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Well, apparently Dunkum is going to Creighton according to his twitter

https://twitter.com/Samdunkum13/status/809131570766479364

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Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2016 3:57 pm

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adcs2 wrote:
Well, apparently Dunkum is going to Creighton according to his twitter

https://twitter.com/Samdunkum13/status/809131570766479364


This is not good. I hope the consultant is paying attention. Is he losing a season in the transfer or what??

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Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2016 4:18 pm

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The assumption would be that he would be eligible to play beginning next January.  That being said, I saw Creighton in person this season and either Dunkum is real good or he is kidding himself into believing he can play there.

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Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2016 4:19 pm

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I think he'll have to sit until Jan. 2018. More importantly do we get that scholarship back?
I do not understand. We've got kids transferring out of this program every year! Are we not vetting them properly?
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Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2016 4:21 pm

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Also, he has all of his eligibility remaining since he never saw the floor at KSC.
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Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2016 5:05 pm

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Kpard wrote:
Also, he has all of his eligibility remaining since he never saw the floor at KSC.
Fran will have 2 scholarships to give this spring after this transfer...It's very troubling this is happening! Fran will be 69 in august he has to be thinking retirement soon, I don't know when his contract ends? Hopefully he retires more gracefully than Frank did....Fran has been a great coach under difficult circumstances.
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Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2016 5:12 pm

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adcs2 wrote:
The assumption would be that he would be eligible to play beginning next January. That being said, I saw Creighton in person this season and either Dunkum is real good or he is kidding himself into believing he can play there.



I am sure he is going there as a walk-on.

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Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2016 5:14 pm

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Kpard wrote:
Also, he has all of his eligibility remaining since he never saw the floor at KSC.



Without a special NCAA waiver, he will be allowed to play 2.5 years. Eligibility normally runs out after 5 years, and he will have burned 1.5 years at LC and then another year sitting out at Creighton. I doubt he will try to get a waiver for a 6th year.


He will be eligible to play the day finals end at Creighton in December of 2017.

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Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2016 5:21 pm

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http://www.omaha.com/creighton/bl...-c245-11e6-a02b-37539e274c17.html

He will be on the roster. This is weird overall.

Let's hope we beat Moravian. They're fast and can shoot 3s.

Swarthmore was 20 years ago this month.

Barlow, Hoffman and Dunkum have transferred recently. Wasted years and dollars for Lafayette.

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Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2016 6:10 pm

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bethlehempard wrote:
http://www.omaha.com/creighton/bl...-c245-11e6-a02b-37539e274c17.html

He will be on the roster. This is weird overall.

Let's hope we beat Moravian. They're fast and can shoot 3s.

Barlow, Hoffman and Dunkum have transferred recently. Wasted years and dollars for Lafayette.



I see this article confirms what I had assumed in my earlier post, i.e. that he will be a walk-on at Creighton.


Interesting that the article implies he has been healthy for a while.

"He's grown a bit and added some strength as he recovered from knee surgery last year. He said he's measuring in at 7-foot, 230 pounds. And he's healthy now, too. "I feel better than I ever have," Dunkum said.


One interesting item is that Dunkum is expected to add size to their practices in the absence of injured Zach Hanson.    Hanson is Mike Muscala's first cousin and was a Bucknell recruit at one point.

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Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2016 6:24 pm

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This kid will never play at Creighton.  He probably wouldn't ever play at Lafayette.

Fran can still coach, but he has completely lost the ability to recruit.  Given his age and the terrible roster he has assembled, does anyone think he can turn this program around into a consistent winner at this point?  He is a great guy, but it is also time to "retire" just last Frank.

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Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2016 7:04 pm

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Franks Tanks wrote:
This kid will never play at Creighton. He probably wouldn't ever play at Lafayette.

Fran can still coach, but he has completely lost the ability to recruit. Given his age and the terrible roster he has assembled, does anyone think he can turn this program around into a consistent winner at this point? He is a great guy, but it is also time to "retire" just last Frank.


Fran has done amazing things and for the most part I've always been amazed at what he's done with what he has...

But I would be kind of exciting to open up recruiting brood skinny white prep-school kids.

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Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2016 7:05 pm

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And no,  i dont think Fran is racist.

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