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Andy

"Safety School"

8/13/2008  Forbes' America's Best Colleges Ranking

In conjunction with Dr. Richard Vedder, an economist at Ohio University, and the Center for College Affordability and Productivity, Forbes.com inaugurates its first ranking of America's Best Colleges, an annual list. In this report, the CCAP ranks 569 undergraduate institutions based on the quality of the education they provide, and how much their students achieve.

#44  Colgate
53   Lafayette
79   Holy Cross
86   Bucknell
207 Georgetown
273 Fordham
310 Lehigh

Oh baby!  I'd like to buy Dr. Vedder an adult beverage of his choice.

http://www.forbes.com/lists/2008/..._Americas-Best-Colleges_Rank.html
Lafalum

Interesting but a load of crap. Using ratemyprof.com is dumb ( easy profs are given high ratings) and who's who in america???? By their own admission 80 pct who apply get in (especially if they buy the stupid  book!!)
Andy

Lafalum wrote:
Interesting but a load of crap. Using ratemyprof.com is dumb ( easy profs are given high ratings) and who's who in america???? By their own admission 80 pct who apply get in (especially if they buy the stupid  book!!)


These people aren't idiots, they recognize where the weaknesses are and where they're vulnerable to criticism.  They address them in the methodology section:

http://www.forbes.com/2008/08/13/...ped-college08-cx_rv_0813ccap.html

But really who cares, it's a lot of fun. Hopefully as the Lehigh recruiters are leaving the high schools having referred to us as the "junior college," our guys are entering, reprints of this article in hand.
Lafalum

It is fun but it is made to sell magazines. I feel the same about the Us News rankings which is an exercise in self promotion( reputation within the academic community counts large).  All these rankings remind me of the old joke of coming up with your age using your shoe size where one of 25 variable turns out to be your year of birth.
But as you said its  fun, but we really shouldn't take it all that seriously.
bison137

Did they use monkeys throwing darts to create the rankings?

It's hard to take these rankings seriously - to put it mildly - when you look at the list closely.     Another poster pointed out a few of the "interesting" rankings from Forbes - - -


Wabash College (IN) and Centre College (KY) are ranked ahead of Stanford, MIT, U. Chicago and Brown.

The New College of Florida is ranked ahead of Vassar, University of Virginia, Oberlin and Rice.

Doane College (Neb) and Kalamazoo College (MI) are ranked ahead of Penn, UNC Chapel Hill, Georgetown and Notre Dame.

Nebraska Wesleyan University is ranked ahead of Duke, Johns Hopkins and Vanderbilt.

Juniata College (PA) and Lyon College (Ark) are ranked ahead of Dartmouth and Cornell.

Birmingham-Southern College (AL) and Claflin University(SC) are ranked ahead of Tulane and Wash U of St. Louis


ETC
Andy

This fresh and bold approach to college rankings from a man of vision shakes the biases and drops the elitism of previous methods and will no doubt become the standard.  Hail, Vedder!!

Yeah, Wabash!  Go Little Giants!!!!

"Wabash College (#12) is proud of the mark our alumni make in the world,  the excellence of student engagement with faculty, and the quality of teaching and learning on campus," Wabash President Patrick White said. "Any evaluation can only tell part of the story of the excellence of  Wabash or any college, but we are pleased that our success has led Forbes to rank us among the top colleges in the country, a position in which those who know us best have always placed Wabash."

"It’s an impressive fact they rank us 12th of all colleges and universities in the country," Dean of Admissions Steve Klein said. "There is so much hype about other schools who’ve earned their reputation based on sports teams, or their graduate school, or maybe a highly-established faculty that undergraduates may never meet or have in the classroom.

"These rankings get at the substance and value of an undergraduate education. It’ says a lot when Wabash is coming in way ahead of so many institutions including many of the Ivy League Schools."

The story on the Forbes website wrote specifically about Wabash’s high standing:

"Several relatively unknown schools do surprisingly well in our rankings. Wabash College, a tiny, all-male school located in Crawfordsville, Ind., ranks 12th on our list, and Centre College, a highly-regarded liberal arts school in Danville, Ky., ranks 13th. With an entering class of just 250 freshmen, Wabash benefits from both high student satisfaction with their courses and lots of graduates who received distinctions in their post collegiate careers."

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