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pards4ever

2014 Lacrosse season

How do you think the team will do next year? Can any new recruits impact the team right away?
Bogus Megapardus

The recruiting class hasn't been announced officially but the unofficial LaxPower list usually is pretty accurate.  That said, there will be freshmen who contribute right away just as there was last season with Westby and Gallagher. 

I am keeping my eye on FOGO Jack McMahon from Pittsburgh, assuming he's committed to Lafayette as indicated by LaxPower.  Watch McMahon's faceoff action here:

http://vimeo.com/44398309

McMahon looks like he's got a fast move and good field vision to find his feed.  Plus he can lay some pretty serious wood - that's an attitude we sorely need.

With the graduation of Greg Rau, this is going to be a critical position.  McMahon is small for DI at 5-9/170 (Rau is small as well).  But judging from the video, McMahon appears to be up to the task.
bison137

It's really hard to judge kids from Central and Western PA (and a lot of other places where the lacrosse competition is weak).    I'll be interested to see how he does.
seenalot

I understand Coach has already lined up a face off guy for the 2014 class as well - out of Bridgewater NJ.  A steady stream is what we need right now - let the internal competition weed it out from there.

I'm pretty happy with what we see on the laxpower list - couple of first team all state kids, kids from right schools and areas - still wish we saw some more depth and size at long pole.   But steps in the right direction with a Coach that works the local areas, regional camps, and who is working two years out.
pards4ever

I heard we are getting an All American transfer...... If Coach can get more AA this team will make some noise....Since the Patriot league is probably one of the toughest leagues we have to be aggressive in our recruiting
Andy

seenalot wrote:
I understand Coach has already lined up a face off guy for the 2014 class as well - out of Bridgewater NJ.  A steady stream is what we need right now - let the internal competition weed it out from there.

I'm pretty happy with what we see on the laxpower list - couple of first team all state kids, kids from right schools and areas - still wish we saw some more depth and size at long pole.   But steps in the right direction with a Coach that works the local areas, regional camps, and who is working two years out.


Stumbled on to this info, a 2013 not listed by laxpower:

Declan McGuire, D, Benet Academy (IL) Declan has committed to play for Lafayette College DI. Declan is a big physical defense-man that has come into his own in the last couple of years. Declan's size and athletic ability coupled with his great off ball and on ball defense make him a great fit for the Lafayette program.///

http://il.truelacrosse.com/news_article/show/197892?referrer_id=204863

Also, laxpower lists goalie Anastos as a 2014, however, he is clearly a 2015 with 2 seasons of HS left:

http://il.truelacrosse.com/page/show/204860-home
PardsLax

Erik Cannon out of Don Bosco could contribute right away at defense.  He was a high school AA on a team that won state in its region.  There are several incoming kids that played on very good high school teams (which only means they played against high level competition) - Dillon Confalone (M) and Kevin Lewis (A) from Delbarton, Cannon and Nick Buchanan (M) from Don Bosco, Matt Cortese (G) from Garden City.  Rob Orazietti is a lefty attack who transferred from UMASS. He was a high school AA but didn't see much action last year.  He could provide some competition for Kevin Wanke's position.  I believe his younger brother changed his commitment from UMASS to Lafayette after Rob made his decision to transfer.

I don't expect too many changes in the starters from last year to this year.  There will be a hole at close D and the midfield really needs to take some major strides forward.  Maybe some of these freshmen could have an impact.

Overall, there may be some smalls steps forward this year.  The Pards were in most of the games last year so perhaps another year under the new coaching staff will get them over the hump in some of those close games.  Having solid senior leadership may help and we can only hope that having Boston University in the league will provide an additional win.
pards4ever

seems like we have many good offensive options.... with lacrosse changing, middies and attack are interchangeable....many D1 programs will play with the 6 best offensive players....not necessarily 3 attack 3 middies....hopefully with Cannon our defense will be an improvement...This could be a big year
Bogus Megapardus

bison137 wrote:
It's really hard to judge kids from Central and Western PA (and a lot of other places where the lacrosse competition is weak).    I'll be interested to see how he does.


That's my concern watching McMahon's video.  The competition might not have been all that brisk.  You'd have to see him face off at a camp against players from top schools in order to get a proper sense of his potential.

That said, McMahon's high school, Mt. Lebanon, is ranked #189 nationally by LaxPower (out of 3484 ranked schools) and #13 in Pennsylvania (out of 210 ranked schools).  They're well ahead of some big-name powers.  They have to be doing something right.

http://www.laxpower.com/update13/binboy/XMTLPA.PHP
PardsLax

As you said earlier, I do like the fact that he looks like a tough, scrappy player.  Seemed like half of his clips involved some lumber laying.
Bogus Megapardus

PardsLax wrote:
As you said earlier, I do like the fact that he looks like a tough, scrappy player.  Seemed like half of his clips involved some lumber laying.


Typically the FOGO has the luxury of aiming for the check during the initial free-for-all because he doesn't necessarily have to get in set for the designed offense/defense.  This kid appears to be taking advantage of that.

I have no idea how many checking fouls the kid might have.  But he appears to be squaring up and doing it the right way.  I like what I see there - he's quick enough that his target doesn't have a chance to pivot away and draw the penalty.  Good stuff - especially if our other guys are playing heads up and can field the GB.
Bogus Megapardus

Andy wrote:

Declan McGuire, D, Benet Academy (IL) Declan has committed to play for Lafayette College DI.


Here's some tape of McGuire (#20 on defense).  He has decent stick control for a tall guy.

http://youtu.be/oyg-13pNym4
bison137

Bogus Megapardus wrote:
bison137 wrote:
It's really hard to judge kids from Central and Western PA (and a lot of other places where the lacrosse competition is weak).    I'll be interested to see how he does.


That's my concern watching McMahon's video.  The competition might not have been all that brisk.  You'd have to see him face off at a camp against players from top schools in order to get a proper sense of his potential.

That said, McMahon's high school, Mt. Lebanon, is ranked #189 nationally by LaxPower (out of 3484 ranked schools) and #13 in Pennsylvania (out of 210 ranked schools).  They're well ahead of some big-name powers.  They have to be doing something right.

http://www.laxpower.com/update13/binboy/XMTLPA.PHP



Yes, I had seen the Mount Lebanon ranking, but I've found that the laxpower rankings break down when it comes to weak lax areas.    Looking at how the top Western PA players do in college and also feedback from my Pittsburgh relatives, I'd guess there are well over 50 southeastern PA schools that would beat the top Western PA school in lax.  

Note that in states, Mt. Lebanon lost 13-9 in the first round to a so-so Carlisle team.    And the other strong Western PA team, North Allegheny, lost 14-1 to LaSalle when it reached a point in states where west had to play east.    Mt. Lebanon also lost 18-7 to the Hill School, a good but not great Canadian program.    Hill lost the two games they played in the States to good programs.

As I said, it will be interesting to see how he does - as it is when Bucknell brings in players from weak areas.   For example, BU brought in 3 California all-americans in recent years - and two were busts while the third was OK but nothing special.   But a freshman from Arizona last year turned out to be very good.   As you say, you really have to see them in camps to get perspective.
RichH

SE Pa a top natl area for lax. That said Cent or W team may not be equal but some players can become so. Give them some time, not a few will grow into solid PL players.
bison137

RichH wrote:
SE Pa a top natl area for lax. That said Cent or W team may not be equal but some players can become so. Give them some time, not a few will grow into solid PL players.



Agree Western PA will turn out some solid players.   It's just really hard to tell based on HS play.   Kind of like watching a 285 lb OL repeatedly flattening a 200 lb DL in a mediocre HS league and trying to figure out how that guy will do against FCS linemen.
RichH

bison137 wrote:
RichH wrote:
SE Pa a top natl area for lax. That said Cent or W team may not be equal but some players can become so. Give them some time, not a few will grow into solid PL players.



Agree Western PA will turn out some solid players.   It's just really hard to tell based on HS play.   Kind of like watching a 285 lb OL repeatedly flattening a 200 lb DL in a mediocre HS league and trying to figure out how that guy will do against FCS linemen.


Laughing The joys of recruiting. Heck, even football centric LV starting to pproduce some very good lax recruits.
Andy

A quick offseason read for lax guys. Does he know of what he speaks?

http://www.collegecrosse.com/2013...-2013-jim-rogalski-patriot-league
seenalot

I'd say he's is a little too caught up in the numbers, but generally got it right.

1. We turn the ball over too much
2. We dont win enough face offs to make up for the above
3. We dont cause enough opponent turnovers

Some of the offensive inefficiency he points to is related to #1 - but we could improve the % of shots we put on goal too.  

At the risk of stating the obvious you cant score when you dont have the ball.  We have young guys up front and at middie - improved decision making there will go a long way towards a better 2014.
Andy

MLax is now a scholarship sport for us. Coach seems to be signing some impressive players.  Im sure the # of scholarships is small, but the ability to spread the money around w/out regard to need has to be a big plus and seems to be helping already.  Brighter days ahead!
seenalot

Hopefully true - but an uphill climb in a tough lax conference that just got tougher.
pards4ever

i thought our middies were very weak last year.....and i believe the game is won between the lines....also i would move Bock to midfield,,,he has a very hard shot that would have to respected from on top....just a thought
PardsLax

seenalot wrote:
I'd say he's is a little too caught up in the numbers, but generally got it right.

1. We turn the ball over too much
2. We dont win enough face offs to make up for the above
3. We dont cause enough opponent turnovers

Some of the offensive inefficiency he points to is related to #1 - but we could improve the % of shots we put on goal too.  

At the risk of stating the obvious you cant score when you dont have the ball.  We have young guys up front and at middie - improved decision making there will go a long way towards a better 2014.


At the risk of getting too caught up in numbers myself, the statistic that I found interesting was the ratio of turnovers to caused turnovers by defensive players (I guess you kind of have to expect most offensive players turn the ball over far more than they cause turnovers).  Last year, with the exception of now-graduated Geoff Stearns, virtually all our starting defenders, including D middies, had more turnovers than caused turnovers, i.e., 61 turnovers to 28 caused turnovers or a ratio of 2.2 turnovers for every 1 caused turnover.  In contrast, Lehigh defenders had a total of 27 turnovers but 71 caused turnovers or 1 turnover for every 2.7 caused turnovers.  Granted, Lehigh had one of the top defensive units in the league if not the country but I found the contrast eye-opening.  (As an aside, there are also striking contrasts between Lehigh and Lafayette defenders in high school honors as well as physical size.  I hate to be blunt but we have just not been getting the type of athletes to date as other teams in the PL.  Let's hope Rogalski, armed with his mighty one scholarship per year, can attract more of the elite players.)  

My memory is not good enough to be confident in this impression but I think many of the defensive turnovers occurred during face-offs and clearing attempts.  No doubt the coaching staff will make this a point of emphasis in the off-season.
Bogus Megapardus

Andy wrote:
A quick offseason read for lax guys. Does he know of what he speaks?

http://www.collegecrosse.com/2013...-2013-jim-rogalski-patriot-league

seenalot wrote:
I'd say he's is a little too caught up in the numbers, but generally got it right.

1. We turn the ball over too much
2. We dont win enough face offs to make up for the above
3. We dont cause enough opponent turnovers

Some of the offensive inefficiency he points to is related to #1 - but we could improve the % of shots we put on goal too.  

At the risk of stating the obvious you cant score when you dont have the ball.  We have young guys up front and at middie - improved decision making there will go a long way towards a better 2014.

I agree with seenalot - the author of the SB Nation piece (a Georgetown guy) probably didn't see much (if any) Lafayette lacrosse outside of the opener vs. the Hoyas.  The article appears mostly to be conclusions derived from statistics.

Rau did a workmanlike job on the faceoffs last season.  It's just that his teammates weren't helping him out very well.  We couldn't maintain possession as the lines changed and we couldn't (or wouldn't) effect a transition back to offensive possession if we dropped the pass/threw an errant pass/got checked.  That said, our clears were much better executed and more brisk than in the past.

Hyatt was better than average in goal - in fact he was pretty good.  But he had to make too many saves.  That's because the long poles and the defensive midfield allowed too many clean shots on goal.  As an assistant lacrosse coach for NJ junior clubs (6-9th grades) our rallying cry on defense, when all else failed, simply was "don't let him shoot!"   I'd rather have high stick foul than to allow a clean shot.

Bottom line is - we need better speed and agility on defense and we need better film reading and preparation in order to know the tendencies of the opponent's best players.  The number that Holy Cross' James Kennedy did on us last season is a prime example of that.  If we concentrate on taking Kennedy out of the game and letting the rest of their crew try to feed and score I think we would have won that one.

Our offense is not bad by any stretch.  The attack is quite good and we're loaded with talent with more on the way.  They're just young and not sufficiently experienced.  They get pushed around too much and they bite on defensive misdirection.  I think you'll see that another year is going to make a huge difference for those guys.

Lastly, our guys are not big.  They don't put fear in the minds of opponents.  When they're out there, look at the size of Lehigh and Bucknell and Colgate.  Those guys are bigger and consequently much more confident once they see the whites of each others' eyes, up close. This is Division I.  We seriously need to bulk up.  Lafayette does have a weight room, you know . . . .
Andy

Wow! Great analysis by the lax guys!  

Is it "one scholarship" per year?  In other words, we'll have 4 to LU's 12.6 at some point?  Not great odds but better than none.  I guess we look at Bucknell's success w/out scholarships as cause for hope.  Is the fund raising mentioned in Coach's email intended for another scholarship?  With lax being a premier PL sport, one would hope we could level the playing field a bit more.  Not a great environment for that right now, I understand, with all the matching women's scholarships.
Lafalum

Andy wrote:
Wow! Great analysis by the lax guys!  

Is it "one scholarship" per year?  In other words, we'll have 4 to LU's 12.6 at some point?  Not great odds but better than none.  I guess we look at Bucknell's success w/out scholarships as cause for hope.  Is the fund raising mentioned in Coach's email intended for another scholarship?  With lax being a premier PL sport, one would hope we could level the playing field a bit more.  Not a great environment for that right now, I understand, with all the matching women's scholarships.

Even if he raises enough money for one it must be matched with a women's scholarship. So if you need 50,000 a year you have to raise a million dollars. And there must be another million for the women's side. Really difficult. But 4 is better than none spread out ( I believe men's lacrosse is an equivilancy sport.)
Remember also they are paying to play at Fisher!! Eventually they will need their own fieldturf field.
RichH

Nice thread. Pards are getting more talented players. Did not know schollie limit. Tough to build deep squad. TitleIX expensive but on the plus side does help Wlax. We have very tough time w FH funding has gone up but not nearly enuf to compete w you guys yet.

Will be interesting to see playout of Fball schollies in PL. Is expanding W   schollies but just a little for various squads. so far. How is LC apportioning Title IX compliance?
Andy

RichH wrote:
How is LC apportioning Title IX compliance?


Dont know the specific numbers, but these are the sports:

ATHLETIC SCHOLARSHIPS

Lafayette offers athletic scholarships in 11 sports:

baseball
men’s and women’s basketball
women’s field hockey
football
men’s and women’s lacrosse
men’s and women’s soccer
softball
women’s volleyball
RichH

Similar to us cept for wrestling.
pards4ever

I think we have 6 scholarships for lacrosse but I might be wrong
PardsLax

I had heard that they were starting with one last year and adding one each year to a maximum of four.  However, my understanding is that this is completely dependent on external (especially alumni) funding as the College is not providing any money for "athletic enhancements."
Lafalum

PardsLax wrote:
I had heard that they were starting with one last year and adding one each year to a maximum of four.  However, my understanding is that this is completely dependent on external (especially alumni) funding as the College is not providing any money for "athletic enhancements."

That's a pretty high bar considering it's a committment of 55,000 dollars per year for four years or an endowment of 1 mio dollars for each scholarship. They would also have to be offset by additional funding for a female scholarship from somewhere!
pards4ever

http://www.laxpower.com/laxnews/news.php?story=35994
Bogus Megapardus

Here they are!

Adam Broeckaert (St. Andrews Episcopal School/Great Falls, Va.): Spent a season at Mercer University ... was 3-6 in faceoffs last season ... four-year varsity letterman in lacrosse at St. Andrews Episcopal School ... team captain and team's MVP in 2011 an 2012 ... named to the All-MAC team in 2012 ... set school record for most ground balls in a season with 181 in his senior year ... won 79 percent of his faceoffs in his senior season ... four-year varsity letterman in indoor track and field ... three-year varsity letterman in cross country.

Nicholas Buchanan (Don Bosco Prep/Wykoff, N.J.): Named All-County, All-League and captain at Don Bosco ... part of the N.J. Non-Public A State Champions and Tournament of Champions Finalist ... team was Bergen County Champions and Bergen County Lacrosse Team of the Year.

Erik Cannon (Don Bosco Prep/Ridgewood, N.J.): Three-year varsity letterwinner ... named team captain and MVP in his senior season ... member of the N.J. Non-Public A State Championship team ... earned defensive team MVP his junior year ... 2013 US Lacrosse All-American, First Team MSG All-NJ, First Team All-State, First Team All-Bergen County, First Team All-Gibbs Division, First Team All-NJ Non-Public A, First Team All-Suburban, Second Team MSG All-Tristate ... picked up over 200 ground balls and scored eight goals in his career.

Dillon Confalone (Delbarton/Morristown, N.J.): Named to the NJ All-State Team and was selected to the N.J. All Star Team ... tallied 17 goals and 11 assists his senior season.

Matthew Cortese (Garden City/Garden City, N.Y.): Two-time New York State Champion ... saw time in goal both seasons ... played for Long Island Sting Black and was named an All Star in the summer.

Keegan Hickey (Hunterdon Central/Flemington, N.J.): Team captain his senior year ... named First Team All-Conference, First Team All-State, First Team All-West Jersey, team MVP and Gill Gibs Senior All Star in 2013 ... Second Team All-Conference selection and team Most Improved Player in 2012.

Eric Joseph (Smithtown West/Smithtown, N.Y.): Three-year varsity letterwinner in lacrosse ... helped lead Smithtown West to the Suffolk County Lacrosse Championship game in 2010 and 2013 ... selected to the 2012 Rising Senior Suffolk County All-Star game ... three-time Varsity Scholar Athlete.

Liam Kearney (Friends Academy/Bayville, N.Y.): Four-year varsity starter ... named All-County ... team won Nassau County Class C Championship.

Kevin Lewis (Delbarton/Morristown, N.J.): Named Morris County Tournament MVP ... team won Morris County Championship.

Gerard Mahoney (South Side/Rockville Centre, N.Y.): Two-year varsity starter ... led the team in man up goals ... played club lacrosse for Long Island Raiders and Rock Lax ... three-year varsity soccer player and captain.

Billy Maltz (Ridgewood/Ridgewood, N.J.): Captain of N.J. Group 3 State Champions ... named to First Team All-County, Second Team All-State and Second Team All-Division ... member of 2013 Gibbs All-Star Team.

Charles McCooe (Ridgewood/Ridgewood, N.J.): Member of 2012-13 N.J. Group 3 Champions ... also played four years of football.

Declan McGuire (Benet Academy/Hinsdale, Ill.): Two-year varsity starter and captain his senior year ... two-time First Team All-Conference Selection ... Illinois State All Star Team selection ... was also an All-State hockey player ... named an Illinois State Scholar.

Jack McMahon (Mt. Lebanon/Mount Lebanon, Pa.): Named First Team All-Midwest Scholastic Lacrosse Coaches Association ... selected to the First Team All-WPIAL Lacrosse Team.

Robert Orazietti (Mountain Lakes/Mountain Lakes, N.J.): Spent his freshman year at UMass ... four-year starter at Mountain Lakes ... named a U.S. Lacrosse All American in 2012 ... was First Team All-State, All-County and All Gibbs in 2012 ... named to the All-Star Ledger, All-MSG and All-Daily Record in 2012 ... received the William Dwyre award as offensive MVP at Mountain Lakes his senior season ... ranks in the top ten all-time in scoring at Mountain Lakes ... 2011 Star Ledger Junior Team and All-Daily Record ... 2010 Star Ledger All-Sophomore Team and All-Daily Record ... 2009 Star Ledger All-Freshmen Team ... also won a state championship in football and was an all-conference selection his senior year.

Jason Sands (Loomis Chaffee/Greenwich, Conn.): Four-year varsity player and captain his senior year ... named to the Western New England Prep School All Star Team his senior season.

Matthew Webb (Westfield/Westfield, N.J.): Three-year varsity starter ... named First team All-State, First Team All-County and Second Team All-Fitch Division his senior season ... scored 19 goals and had 21 assists as a senior.

Adam Broeckaert 5'10, 180, FO/Midfield, St. Andrews Episcopal School (Mercer University)
Nicholas Buchanan 6'4, 205, Midfield, Don Bosco Prep
Erik Cannon 6'1, 185, LSM/Defense, Don Bosco Prep
Dillon Confalone 5'10, 170, Midfield, Delbarton
Matthew Cortese 5'9, 175, Goalie, Garden City
Keegan Hickey 5'10, 190, Midfield, Hunterdon Central
Eric Joseph 6'3, 190, Attack, Smithtown West
Liam Kearney 5'11, 182, Midfield, Friends Academy
Kevin Lewis 6'0, 175, Attack, Delbarton
Gerard Mahoney 6'2, 170, Attack/Midfield, South Side
Billy Maltz 5'11, 175, Midfield, Ridgewood
Charles McCooe 6'4, 195, Defense, Ridgewood
Declan McGuire 6'3, 195, Defense, Benet Academy
Jack McMahon 6'1, 185, Midfield/Faceoff, Mt. Lebanon
Robert Orazietti 6'1, 185, Attack, Mountain Lakes (UMass)
Jason Sands 6'3, 225, Attack, Loomis Chaffee
Matthew Webb 6'0, 170, Midfield, Westfield
Bogus Megapardus

Orazietti is a shock.  He was kinda famous in NJ.  Now he's transferred from UMass?

First look this is kind of an awesome class.  Tons of top NJ talent.  And their friends and family will be coming out to games.
pards4ever

I saw Orazietti play vs Delabarton.....he is the real deal. We can use all the help this year.... the deeper we are the better !!!!
pards4ever

sorry spelled Delbarton wrong
Bogus Megapardus

Little bro will be coming as well.  Check it out - how did I miss this one!


http://www.laxlessons.com/2013/07...and-lafayette-decommitting-umass/
pards4ever

I also saw Cannon play.....amazing at shutting down the best offensive middies
Franks Tanks

Great news on the recruiting front.  Seems like we recruited some good size as well, which the team has lacked the last few years.
Bogus Megapardus

We need to hear from bison137 why all these guys suck and were rejected at Bucknell.
RichH

A very good class. Expect a lot of then will see lots of PT. Pards will compete,some experience and depth will be in the hunt chasing Loyola
Bogus Megapardus

RichH wrote:
A very good class. Expect a lot of then will see lots of PT. Pards will compete,some experience and depth will be in the hunt chasing Loyola


The will see a lot of PT just as last year's freshman.  This is a really young team.  I don't expect to make the PL playoffs (even though expanded to 6 teams) but I certainly expect improvement.

That begs the question - improvement at whose expense?  PL is tough.  We ought to beat Metropolitan College, I suppose, since they're a brand new team.  Holy Cross would be next on the pecking order, I suppose, but after that?

Maybe we'll have a really soft OOC - remains to be seen.  Won't matter if we go O-fer in the PL again, though.
RichH

Not likely,Cross and BUb s/b doable. Navy and Army both good but vulnerable.  BU ,LU and Loyola too deep too talented yet. Gate tough to call very weak inside D ,GK shaky early did play better later in season.

Loyola to be clear #1
seenalot

Like the increase in size - fingers crossed that the speed and smarts with the ball isnt compromised.  We MUST cut down the turnovers in order to take real steps ahead.  Its a possession game at this level.  Simply having the better athlete wont get it done - but on paper this looks like a very strong class.  Lets see how things translate in fall ball and this spring.  

As for 137's opinion on stuff like this who cares...we all know the drill there.
bison137

seenalot wrote:


As for 137's opinion on stuff like this who cares...we all know the drill there.




Didn't know I had expressed an opinion on this.   And what is the drill?
seenalot

Not going down that rat hole.   Not worth the time or effort.
bison137

seenalot wrote:
Not going down that rat hole.   Not worth the time or effort.



If you did spend the time or effort, you'd find I haven't expressed any negative opinion about any LC player or recruit.
seenalot

READ the post - I never said you did.  

My implication, now a statement, was that no matter the subject you invariably get it to a point of comparison - how BU likely passed on a recruit so we could gobble up that crumb, how being ranked in a survey is only important if it cast a favorable light on BU, how crap doesn't smell quite so bad in the sewer lines in Lewisburg and how WHATEVER it is that BU does is superior to anything anyone else ever did, said or thought.

I am happy you are proub to be a Bison - its a great school and you should be proud.  But taking the passive agressive approach towards everything at every other PL school AND telling anyone you are unbiased is the same as Obama telling me the government is getting smaller, more efficient and there to help me. Just repeating it does not make it so and its gotten old.

Put a fork in it and move on.
Bogus Megapardus

Bison137 - I started it by posting this tounge-in-cheek tidbit, earlier in this thread:

Bogus Megapardus wrote:
We need to hear from bison137 why all these guys suck and were rejected at Bucknell.


Blame me, not anyone else.  And unfurl your knickers while you're at it.  This is the Patriot League.  We're all family.  We love to compete and win, but we tend to take ourselves at least third less seriously than others.

So grab a seat and post away.  Just remember - "I'm rubber and you're glue . . . . "
RichH

Gee, a bit surprised at your venom to 137. I and most of the rest of us respect his knowledge and opinions about PL issues. Of course he roots for BU ,but I have never found him to be unfair or condescending in his posts on all of our boards
seenalot

I also respect the knowledge - never been the point.  

And yes, we are all homers.

Time to move on.
Bogus Megapardus

Bogus Megapardus wrote:
We need to hear from bison137 why all these guys suck and were rejected at Bucknell.


Suggested comebacks:

    "I'm in no position to say that they ALL suck.  That's because I've never even heard of most of them."

    "Actually, Bucknell rejected very few of them.  The others were to too afraid even to apply."

    "Come on, I'm not THAT unreasonable.  I'll give the Pards at least 3 or 4 games before concluding that they all suck."

    "'Suck' might be too much of an over-generalization.  I'd rather go with, 'lucky to make the women's team.'"

You'll get the hang of it with a little practice.
Bogus Megapardus

RichH wrote:
Gee, a bit surprised at your venom to 137. I and most of the rest of us respect his knowledge and opinions about PL issues. Of course he roots for BU ,but I have never found him to be unfair or condescending in his posts on all of our boards


I respect 137's knowledge as well.  He brings a lot to the discussion.

But RichH, since you're an Honorary Pard, you might lack objectivity . . .  Surprised






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pards4ever

http://www.forbes.com/sites/abram...-americas-best-colleges-rankings/
Bogus Megapardus

pards4ever wrote:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/abram...-americas-best-colleges-rankings/

"Bucknell University doctored SAT results from 2006 to 2012."

That's why I suggested on another thread that we address all Bucknell fans as "Doctor" this season.  Still not sure if anyone here got the joke.  Cool
pards4ever

http://www.forbes.com/top-colleges/list/
pards4ever

When do the boys start Fall ball? I saw on Laxpower that we only have 1 scrimmage. I also heard Round had hip surgery this summer, will he be ok to play this year? Any other players with injuries?
Bogus Megapardus

pards4ever wrote:
When do the boys start Fall ball? I saw on Laxpower that we only have 1 scrimmage. I also heard Round had hip surgery this summer, will he be ok to play this year? Any other players with injuries?


NCAA rules limit the number of fallball scrimmages.  But the Pards will be playing two games at the Nick Colleluori Classic in Ridley, PA on October 5-6.  The competition (at the DI level) will be Binghamton, Hofstra, Lafayette, Monmouth, Saint Joseph’s, VMI and Villanova.  That seems like an excellent fallball experience for this young Pard bunch.
NewGuy

I'm told Round had corrective hip surgery (torn right labrum) which went fine. He should be new and improved.
PardsLax

pards4ever wrote:
When do the boys start Fall ball? I saw on Laxpower that we only have 1 scrimmage. I also heard Round had hip surgery this summer, will he be ok to play this year? Any other players with injuries?

I believe team practices start next week.  In year's past, the team has done one fall tournament and also played a game against the alumni which will be 10/19 on Fisher this year.  

It would be nice to have the kids who were suffering from injuries last year come back at full strength.
pards4ever

Does anybody have any info on how Fall ball is going?
Bogus Megapardus

pards4ever wrote:
Does anybody have any info on how Fall ball is going?


The fall practices are supposed to be extremely limited. The only way to gauge things will be after the games at the Nick Colleluori Classic on October 5-6.
pards4ever

How come our roster on the website is not updated?
PardsLax

pards4ever wrote:
How come our roster on the website is not updated?


It always seems like it takes a while to update.  I'm not sure if that is by design to wait and see who actually sticks with the team after fall ball.
pards4ever

that makes sense
PardsLax

Caught the games this afternoon at the Nicholas Colleluori Fall Classic at Ridley High School in Folsom, PA.  Pards dominated VMI in the first game.  I think the final was something like 10-2 with 25 min halves with running clock.  Pretty much only the freshman and transfers played.  Pards won second game against Bing 9-7 who beat Hofstra 13-8 earlier.  The three starting attack and goalie from last year did not play at all in either game.  It's always hard to take anything meaningful away from fall ball games but I thought the Pards looked pretty good in all aspects.  Guys seemed to be playing well within their units and not much hero ball.
Bogus Megapardus

Thanks PardsLax!  I'm glad you were able to make it to the fallball tourney.  I does not surprise me that Rogalski wanted to put recruits/transfers feet to the fire in this one and I'm pleased to read that they held their own.

Wondering - did the kid from UMass play?  Who stood out in goal?  How did we fare on FO and transition?

VMI is a team we should beat every time but Bingo is an excellent test - a team we have beaten recently but with struggle.
pards4ever

I thought we dominated the face offs....I really like Broeckart....Maltz Hickey Floyd and Westby looked very strong.....Orazietti the kid from UMASS scored a couple of goals and looked impressive...Gover and Evans really stood out...I was most impressed with Falcone he really held his own
PardsLax

I'm guessing the second game represents Rogalski's current thinking about lineups although a lot of changes will be made before February.  Plus there were several guys who didn't play due to injuries and what-not.  In any event, I think the starting close D was Evans, Ahsler, and Kennedy, D middies were Dunlap and maybe one of the freshman (was Confort injured?), starting O middies were Gallagher, Mann, and Westby, second line middies were Galione, Floyd, and Confalone (Frosh who could be fighting for first line IMHO), and the attack were Scheuerle, Eric Joseph F from Smithtown West, Orazietti Soph transfer from UMASS played a lot in the first game and played some in second, can't remember who else got a lot of playing time.  Faceoff unit looked good, especially LSM Gover.  Goalies in both games looked solid but Hyatt will no doubt start come regular season.  It looked like we had more size out on the field than in year's past.  I think the team is going to be a little better this year and has a bright future in years to come.
pards4ever

we are ranked #60 in inside lacrosse-----no respect
PardsLax

And Lafayette is considered the most "overrated" team between 2011-2013:  http://www.insidelacrosse.com/new...nderrated-overrated-teams-2011-13
NewGuy

Let's prove them wrong gentlemen!
Bogus Megapardus

Nowhere to go but up.  

We'll be playing two schools that have never before fielded a team and one that will be playing in only its second season.  If this team cannot manage six wins this season, it's time to hang 'em up.
pards4ever

the key to this season is depth ... we need to play 5 attack 8 middies 6 poles just like the other top teams...
bison137

pards4ever wrote:
the key to this season is depth ... we need to play 5 attack 8 middies 6 poles just like the other top teams...



Definitely need middies.   Don't really need 5 on attack.   Bucknell used only 3 on attack 98% of the time last year and did pretty well.  Also only need 6 poles if 2 of them are LSM's.
pards4ever

This is not Bucknell
bison137

pards4ever wrote:
This is not Bucknell



I don't think any team has to have five strong attackmen - other than to have some replacements if there are injuries.
PardsLax

Patriot League preview for the stats nerds: http://www.collegecrosse.com/2014...cknell-colgate-lehigh-loyola-navy
Bogus Megapardus

Nine PL Lax games will be televised on CBS Sports this season.

http://www.patriotleague.org/sports/m-lacros/spec-rel/013014aac.html

None for the Pards, though - unless we make the PL tourney.
pards4ever

i went to the scrimmage today against St.Joes... these are my observations...Goalie play was very good #1 made some nice saves...defense had way too many penalties....midfield is a big problem...besides #9...nobody stood out...attack looked very good #23 #4 and #15 really played well together ....besides #30 i thought the freshmen really struggled #40 #45 #!2 #42

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