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Bogus Megapardus

And the Experts Say . . .

ESPN analyst and 2006 Tewaaraton Trophy winner Matt Ward in today's Baltimore Sun (which has more lacrosse coverage than any paper in the world):

"I’m going with Lafayette. They’re playing right now at a level that no one in the Patriot League can match. And then you have the ACC teams about to play each other week in and week out, and I think they’re going to start picking each other off. It’s just too competitive. So I wouldn’t be surprised if Lafayette ran the table."

http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/s...qa_with_espns_matt_ward.html#more

Mr. Green
Lafalum29

Did you get a chance to watch the Drexel/Nova game last night?  What did you think of them?
Bogus Megapardus

Lafalum29 wrote:
Did you get a chance to watch the Drexel/Nova game last night?  What did you think of them?


I watched the whole game.  I'll post a few thoughts later today.
Pard4Life

Well, Drexel lost... looks like they will be coming to Easton in p'od mood.  Not good when combined with talent...
Bogus Megapardus

Every High School lacrosse kid (for better or for worse) goes to Inside Lacrosse to see pictures and imagine what it would be like to play lacrosse in a DI uniform.

If a kid went there today, the first thing he'd see would be senior middie Kevin Dunbar and another national mention of the undefeated Leopards.





You can't possibly imagine what a difference this makes in recruiting.


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Lafalum

That is an terrific photo!!!
Franks Tanks

Pretty cool.

I e-mailed some of the local Morning Call reporters to let them know that the Leopards are ranked in the top ten and will be facing off against another top 15 team this weekend.  Perhaps the most relevant college Lacrosse game ever in the Lehigh Valley and not a peep from them.

They are still talking about Lehigh basketball and wrestling teams.  Lacrosse is a hot sport and the stupid Morning Call is missing the boat if they arent providing coverage.
Bogus Megapardus

Trouble is, they don't know the game and they'd look like idiots trying to write anything intelligible.  I did notice that the Lehigh women's team was getting some Morning Call press, but never a peep about Lafayette.  Lacrosse can be a very interesting sport to write about.  Just look at how the Baltimore Sun handles lacrosse.  Lafayette is getting more press in the Sun than in the Lehigh Valley rags.

I have always assumed that the Morning Call was just a shill for the Fountain Pigeons anyhow.  Someone probably will file a report if the Brown Shorts manage to win a game.
Franks Tanks

Bogus Megapardus wrote:
Trouble is, they don't know the game and they'd look like idiots trying to write anything intelligible.  I did notice that the Lehigh women's team was getting some Morning Call press, but never a peep about Lafayette.  Lacrosse can be a very interesting sport to write about.  Just look at how the Baltimore Sun handles lacrosse.  Lafayette is getting more press in the Sun than in the Lehigh Valley rags.

I have always assumed that the Morning Call was just a shill for the Fountain Pigeons anyhow.  Someone probably will file a report if the Brown Shorts manage to win a game.


Even if they cant write about the nuts and bolts of the game, they can at least talk about it in general terms as a match-up of top teams.

They still have articles about the mediocre Lehigh Westling team.  They had one All- American (top 8 finisher) on the whole squad.  They are missing a great story right under their nose.
Kiltedpard

Yo! Mr. BM! I am a novice when it comes to this sport, although I do enjoy watching when it's available. I have a question. Why do the men wear full padding and helmets, but, the women only wear eye protection?
Bogus Megapardus

Kiltedpard wrote:
Yo! Mr. BM! I am a novice when it comes to this sport, although I do enjoy watching when it's available. I have a question. Why do the men wear full padding and helmets, but, the women only wear eye protection?


The men's and women's games are very different - especially the stick itself.  Eyegear for women is relatively recent.  The faceoff (called a "draw" in women's) is different and even the positions are different.  The rules are quite different.  Stick-to-stick contact is allowed in women's lax, but not body checking.  The women's game is slower because the depth of the webbing on the head of the stick (called the "pocket") is very flat and shallow and more narrow while the pocket of a men's stick can be the depth of a ball, making it much easier to "cradle" the ball downfield.  There are more loose balls and ground balls in the women's game because of this.

Men's lacrosse is a full-contact sport.  You can check the opponent's stick and forearm with your stick, and you can body check the ball carrier.  Padding bulk varies depending on position, but players wear shoulder pads, arm pads, rib pads, and gloves, and of course helmets.  It can be a violent game - I once saw a kid's forearm get snapped in half with a legal stick check.  A few years ago a kid at Cornell was killed from the sheer velocity of a ball in game against Bingo. That's not likely in the women's game.  However there are a lot of girls who play boy's lacrosse at the junior level - in full gear.  Most girls would prefer to use men's sticks and wear full pads and play the game more like the men as is done in NCAA women's hockey.
Pard4Life

Hope everyone is ready for parking on the grass tomorrow. Expect a full house!
Kiltedpard

Bogus Megapardus wrote:
Kiltedpard wrote:
Yo! Mr. BM! I am a novice when it comes to this sport, although I do enjoy watching when it's available. I have a question. Why do the men wear full padding and helmets, but, the women only wear eye protection?


The men's and women's games are very different - especially the stick itself.  Eyegear for women is relatively recent.  The faceoff (called a "draw" in women's) is different and even the positions are different.  The rules are quite different.  Stick-to-stick contact is allowed in women's lax, but not body checking.  The women's game is slower because the depth of the webbing on the head of the stick (called the "pocket") is very flat and shallow and more narrow while the pocket of a men's stick can be the depth of a ball, making it much easier to "cradle" the ball downfield.  There are more loose balls and ground balls in the women's game because of this.

Men's lacrosse is a full-contact sport.  You can check the opponent's stick and forearm with your stick, and you can body check the ball carrier.  Padding bulk varies depending on position, but players wear shoulder pads, arm pads, rib pads, and gloves, and of course helmets.  It can be a violent game - I once saw a kid's forearm get snapped in half with a legal stick check.  A few years ago a kid at Cornell was killed from the sheer velocity of a ball in game against Bingo. That's not likely in the women's game.  However there are a lot of girls who play boy's lacrosse at the junior level - in full gear.  Most girls would prefer to use men's sticks and wear full pads and play the game more like the men as is done in NCAA women's hockey.



Thank you! Seems like this is gaining popularity. I enjoyed watching some of the VA - JHU game today. Big crowd, pep band, quite a show in Charlottesville. LC got some good props from the announcers. We are only one of 3 teams still undefeated in D1. Good luck tomorrow guys!
Bogus Megapardus

Lafayette comes in at #10 this week in the USILA Coaches' Poll after the Drexel loss.  Surprisingly, Drexel is ranked #11 this week (which is where they were last week).  This will cause some consternation on Chestnut Street, no doubt.

In terms of statistics, PR and RPI, Lafayette's schedule softens considerably from here on. Unless Army moves up with a convincing smack-down at Hofstra tomorrow night, the Pards will face no more ranked opponents for the rest of the season.  Of the teams they have faced so far this season, Navy, Penn, Drexel, Bucknell and Fairfield all have been ranked at one point or another.  Going 6-1 through this part of the schedule is a major accomplishment and a very big deal.

Lafayette still must qualify for the PL tournament (the top four teams only) to get the league's AQ for the 16-team NCAA championships.  They are in good shape having already beaten the best two teams, but they still must face Lehigh, Army, Colgate and Holy Cross just to get to the PL tourney.

Even if they win out, despite Lafayette's envious record, they could be denied an NCAA bid if they do not win the PL tournament (which likely will include facing Navy and/or Bucknell again).  There is no assurance of an at-large bid and history would suggest against the PL being a 2-bid league.

The top seed hosts all PL tournament games.  All Patriot League tournament games will be televised live on CBS College Sports.

Finally, I'd like to support what The Maroon posted in the Other Sports section.  As those who were at Metzgar this weekend saw, lacrosse can be a pretty big deal.  Lafayette is ideally located to make it easy for High School kids and their parents to come to see a premier Division I matchup.  Now that we're good at this whole lacrosse thing, let's please act like we've been there before (even though we haven't!)

We're smarter, more literate and much more creative.  There are tons of old-school lacrosse chants and cheers out there that we could employ.  Lacrosse is a game of decorum and tradition - the only sport left where the winning team still openly cheers the defeated at game's end.  Funny, clever signs and well-planned rebukes of the opposition are something we ought to be good at.  Banal obscenities and hastily-contrived taunts just prove we don't care and that our students belong back at the dorm in front of the Xbox rather than watching elite-level Division I lacrosse.

Sorry to rant on - just my two (or three) cents.
Franks Tanks

Bogus Megapardus wrote:
Lafayette comes in at #10 this week in the USILA Coaches' Poll after the Drexel loss.  Surprisingly, Drexel is ranked #11 this week (which is where they were last week).  This will cause some consternation on Chestnut Street, no doubt.

In terms of statistics, PR and RPI, Lafayette's schedule softens considerably from here on. Unless Army moves up with a convincing smack-down at Hofstra tomorrow night, the Pards will face no more ranked opponents for the rest of the season.  Of the teams they have faced so far this season, Navy, Penn, Drexel, Bucknell and Fairfield all have been ranked at one point or another.  Going 6-1 through this part of the schedule is a major accomplishment and a very big deal.

Lafayette still must qualify for the PL tournament (the top four teams only) to get the league's AQ for the 16-team NCAA championships.  They are in good shape having already beaten the best two teams, but they still must face Lehigh, Army, Colgate and Holy Cross just to get to the PL tourney.

Even if they win out, despite Lafayette's envious record, they could be denied an NCAA bid if they do not win the PL tournament (which likely will include facing Navy and/or Bucknell again).  There is no assurance of an at-large bid and history would suggest against the PL being a 2-bid league.

The top seed hosts all PL tournament games.  All Patriot League tournament games will be televised live on CBS College Sports.

Finally, I'd like to support what The Maroon posted in the Other Sports section.  As those where were at Metzgar this weekend saw, lacrosse can be a pretty big deal.  Lafayette is ideally located to make it easy for High School kids and their parents to come to see a premier Division I matchup.  Now that we're good at this whole lacrosse thing, let's please act like we've been there before (even though we haven't!)

We're smarter, more literate and much more creative.  There are tons of old-school lacrosse chants and cheers out there that we could employ.  Lacrosse is a game of decorum and tradition - the only sport left where the winning team still openly cheers the defeated at game's end.  Funny, clever signs and well-planned rebukes of the opposition are something we ought to be good at.  Banal obscenities and hastily-contrived taunts just prove we don't care and that our students belong back at the dorm in front of the Xbox rather than watching elite-level Division I lacrosse.

Sorry to rant on - just my two (or three) cents.


Probably has something to do with the Weiss letter.  The kids were aware Weiss was at the game and acted like fools to stick it to him in some measure of "you cant tell us how to act."

Their does seem to be a lot of f**k you chants this year.  It could be the doing of an isolated group of douchebag students, or it may be indicitive or a larger issue-- I dont know.

This year at the Fordham game one drunken idiot student chanted "F--- Fordham" extremely loud for the entire game.  Perhaps a few bad eggs like him started this mess.
The Maroon

The women didn't even wear the eye protection a few years ago.

They don't check in the women's game--there are no long-stick middies either.

As for the Morning Call...How much of their sports staff remains? The ET faces the same shortages....What used to be a 12 page sports section is usually six. It's a matter of resources.

Does that mean they should still be talking about the wrestling team? Heck no.

There is no excuse whatsoever not to cover the sport because you don't know much about the game...I used to work part-time at the ET, and the coaches of the lesser-known sports were always incredibly accomodating toward explaining the terminology and the parts of the game you may not understand--they were always appreciative of the coverage. I needed a lot of help understanding field hockey and wrestling (which is blasphemous in the Lehigh Valley) and I never had anything but patient, respectful coaches. I'm sure Terry Mangan would be the same way.

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