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Bogus Megapardus

at Colgate

Saturday, April 14 at 1:00 PM.

Why bother?
Bogus Megapardus

5-0 Colgate in the early going.  11 shots for Colgate vs just one for the Pards.

Dear Coach Mangan:  just where, exactly, are we going with this?
Bogus Megapardus

At the end of the first quarter, Colgate leads Lafayette, 7-1.  Colgate has 17 shots.  The Pards have only 3.

Dear Coach Mangan:  why embarrass yourself further?  I hear that the Olde Fuddlethorpe Country Day School is looking for an assistant coach for its middle school team.  You might wish to consider the opportunity.
Bogus Megapardus

And here we are, just under way in the second quarter, and its 8-1 Colgate, with 20 shots to 4.

Colgate will have its third string in by halftime and will aim to win by less than 12-14 points, being gentlemen and all.

Dear Coach Mangan:  It puts the ball in the net.
Bogus Megapardus

11-2 at the half.  Hyatt pulled for Andrusko (again) but to no avail.  

Dear Coach Mangan:  You're single-handedly destroying the aspirations of thirty-seven talented, dedicated student-athletes along with the 100-year-old lacrosse tradition and reputation of Lafayette College.  Is it really worth it to you?

The next "news" I want to read about Lafayette Lacrosse is of your resignation.

Now would be a good time.
Bogus Megapardus

18-7 Final.

Wow.  Just wow.  Baum nets 5 goals on 7 shots (all on goal) for Colgate.  That's efficiency.  On the bright side, Scheuerle nets 3 on 4 SOG for the Pards.  Equally efficient.  

Is this how we define "opportunity to compete for a Patriot League title?"  It's on you, Coach Mangan.  It's simply the harsh reality.  Our talented, hard-working, high-academic student-athletes deserve better.
seenalot

Amen is only thing to say.   Oh yeah, and to ask if Bruce has the stones to do what he should do......if Terry doesnt do it first.
laxer4life

Bruce and Terry were at the Maroon Club Tailgate, post Army loss, saying how the season wasn't a loss because they raised over $150,000.  It sounded as if Mangans only criteria is to raise funds.


Worst Quote ever by a Head Coach;

Coach Mangan after the Army debacle , " If we only had #9 (Thul from Army) on are team we could have won."
Lafalum

So it's not just money!!!!

laxer4life wrote:
Bruce and Terry were at the Maroon Club Tailgate, post Army loss, saying how the season wasn't a loss because they raised over $150,000.  It sounded as if Mangans only criteria is to raise funds.


Worst Quote ever by a Head Coach;

Coach Mangan after the Army debacle , " If we only had #9 (Thul from Army) on are team we could have won."


So its not just the money??
Bogus Megapardus

A fan's response to Mangan quote:

"If only we had Jeff Tambroni, Dave Pietramala, Bill Tierney or Dom Starsia coaching this team, we could have won.  And raised three times as much money, too."
Bogus Megapardus

laxer4life wrote:
It sounded as if Mangans only criteria is to raise funds.


If the only criterion for his success as a coach was to raise funds, Mangan didn't do a very good job.  In the U.S., the lacrosse equipment manufacturing market now is worth $100 million.  The highest visibility for the sport in not in pro lacrosse but in Division I - where there are only 61 teams.  We're one of them, and we're one of the very oldest continuously-playing programs in the nation at any level.  Lafayette appears to get very little in the way of equipment sponsorships.

Rutgers, which is only marginally better than Lafayette, promotes the heck out of its games and gets hundreds of high schoolers from all over New Jersey to attend.  It charges $7.00 per head.  With 1,000 attending each game, and 8 home games, the program grosses $56,000 on gate alone.

Imagine a lacrosse camp at the spacious Metzgar complex.  Plenty of room; you could have four or five fields going at once - both men and women.  Nike, for example, sponsors camps at colleges all across the east, like at Robert Morris, Adelphi and Sacred Heart.  Other manufacturers sponsor camps as well.

If 40 players' parents donate $500 each, and 120 lacrosse alumni donate $500 each, that's $80,000.

The point is, if Mangan's principal criterion was to raise money for Lafayette lacrosse, I'd say his effort approximately equaled the team's record this season.

There are exactly two sports in which Lafayette has a legitimate, realistic shot at playing in a final four or national championship game within a decade - Field Hockey and Men's Lacrosse.  Field Hockey obviously is doing its part.  So I ask you again, Bruce McCutcheon, Dan Weiss and Board of Trustees - Lafayette Lacrosse, Cur Non?
Lafalum

Just a thought.... we couldn't get the Kirbys to send their sons to Lafayette, who I understand were pretty good Lacrosse players, so what's to make us think we could recruit any kid who has no contact with leopardville. Then again what do I know?  I'm just an alumnus and the administration is filled with PhDs. with several years of experience at obscure liberal arts colleges.
Maybe we need a VP for athletic diversity, maybe then we will get some attention to the problems.
Bogus Megapardus

Lafalum wrote:
Just a thought.... we couldn't get the Kirbys to send their sons to Lafayette, who I understand were pretty good Lacrosse players, so what's to make us think we could recruit any kid who has no contact with leopardville. Then again what do I know?  I'm just an alumnus and the administration is filled with PhDs. with several years of experience at obscure liberal arts colleges.
Maybe we need a VP for athletic diversity, maybe then we will get some attention to the problems.


The Lafayette College that Jeff and Dillard Kirby attended in the 1980s was a much different place than is is today.  Their sons went to Harvard and Duke, where "individual excellence" does not foster pejorative sneers from embittered, professional leftist faculty as it does at Lafayette these days.  

Today's Lafayette instead seeks to pander to the lowest common denominator.  Campaigns for athletic and academic excellence have been replaced by "anti-bullying" lectures and "occupy" crusades.  Would you send your children to Lafayette?  The vast majority of alumni I know would not and did not.

But as long as Division I athletics remain at Lafayette, there's a chance.  The college knows (even if they won't admit it) that athletes are better rounded and more successful after graduation, are more loyal and contribute at a higher rate.  The Kirbys sent their sons to better programs with better coaches.  All Lafayette really needs to do is to beat Harvard and Duke consistently.  With good coaching and good facilities, along with Lafayette's excellent location, that's not really as hard as it seems.

Just wait until you see the recruits that are going to pour into Lehigh in the next few years.  If they can do it . . . .
seenalot

For gawds sake we dont even run a lax camp or off season lax tourney - while our friends over at LU do both.  Those are two money making opportunities that also create kid and parent "stickiness" - we just dont get it.

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