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carney2

BEWARE THE RAM

In the Recruiting thread we got off topic for a while as I dreamed of the world's greatest cheeseburger.  I commented that USA Today rated a burger in Hawaii as the best in the U.S., and I stated that I'll get one when the Pards schedule a home and home with the Hawaii Rainbow Warriors.  And now we find that Fordham has scheduled a trip to Honolulu in September, 2020.  Think that might help their recruiting as we get closer to the date?

Anyway, those who think that the departure of QB Mike Nebrich and some of his playmates will bring the Rams back to the Patriot League pack had best think again.  Joe Moorhead may have the best recruiting class in the League this year and gives every indication that he is determined to build a dynasty in the Bronx.  Throw in the usual mix of transfers that he lands and the Rams look even better.  Meanwhile, the rest of the Patriot League continues with same-old, same-old.  Our big hope at the moment is that Moorhead moves out and up.  And, that's a heluva way to run a railroad.
flyfisher

I agree that he is a good coach but it also appears he has tremendous support from his AD and BOT.
Franks Tanks

flyfisher wrote:
I agree that he is a good coach but it also appears he has tremendous support from his AD and BOT.


Not so sure about that.  David Roach is the AD at Fordham, and he was at Colgate prior.  Colgate fans didn't like him, and Fordham fans aren't so crazy about him either.  Fordham guys also complain about their admin.  You have to realize that Fordham was an automatic win for much of their time in the league, and have stunk in basketball for 2 decades.  Their BOT isn't overly concerned about athletic success.

Moorhead is a very good coach.  He understands how to sell Fordham and NYC to recruits, is a bit fearless on the recruiting trail.  It doesn't hurt that they had a 3 year head start on football scholarships.
bethlehempard

Does any PL school's fan base not complain about their administration? Maybe that's the nature of 1AA football, or maybe all schools' fans complain about something at all levels.
Colgate, Fordham, Holy Cross (they've made it an art form)  ... it's rumored that Lafayette fans complain ... I don't know about Bucknell, the academies or the interlopers.
Bogus Megapardus

As I sit back with a broad view, take a deep breath and ask myself . . . would I rather be a Fordham fan in the short term or a Lafayette fan in the long term?

l look at the history, the consistency, the rivalries and the ongoing support.  The answer could not be more obvious.

Eff Fordham.  GO PARDS!
flyfisher

Franks Tanks wrote:
flyfisher wrote:
I agree that he is a good coach but it also appears he has tremendous support from his AD and BOT.


Not so sure about that.  David Roach is the AD at Fordham, and he was at Colgate prior.  Colgate fans didn't like him, and Fordham fans aren't so crazy about him either.  Fordham guys also complain about their admin.  You have to realize that Fordham was an automatic win for much of their time in the league, and have stunk in basketball for 2 decades.  Their BOT isn't overly concerned about athletic success.

Moorhead is a very good coach.  He understands how to sell Fordham and NYC to recruits, is a bit fearless on the recruiting trail.  It doesn't hurt that they had a 3 year head start on football scholarships.


You just answered my question for me. They must have some support to go all in with scholarships 3 years before everyone else. And after the rest of the league said they were not going to do it. They basically said to the rest of the PL, this is what we are doing. What are you going to do about it? So they were not eligible for the playoff spot or the title for 3 years. Big deal. Meanwhile they are the jump on the rest of is. They also seem to have the support to bring in all" the transfers they choose.

You may not consider it a big deal but the rest of the country thought it was a slap in the face when they went scholarship and the rest of the league did not.  I would say that is tremendous support.
Lafalum

flyfisher wrote:
Franks Tanks wrote:
flyfisher wrote:
I agree that he is a good coach but it also appears he has tremendous support from his AD and BOT.


Not so sure about that.  David Roach is the AD at Fordham, and he was at Colgate prior.  Colgate fans didn't like him, and Fordham fans aren't so crazy about him either.  Fordham guys also complain about their admin.  You have to realize that Fordham was an automatic win for much of their time in the league, and have stunk in basketball for 2 decades.  Their BOT isn't overly concerned about athletic success.

Moorhead is a very good coach.  He understands how to sell Fordham and NYC to recruits, is a bit fearless on the recruiting trail.  It doesn't hurt that they had a 3 year head start on football scholarships.


You just answered my question for me. They must have some support to go all in with scholarships 3 years before everyone else. And after the rest of the league said they were not going to do it. They basically said to the rest of the PL, this is what we are doing. What are you going to do about it? So they were not eligible for the playoff spot or the title for 3 years. Big deal. Meanwhile they are the jump on the rest of is. They also seem to have the support to bring in all" the transfers they choose.

You may not consider it a big deal but the rest of the country thought it was a slap in the face when they went scholarship and the rest of the league did not.  I would say that is tremendous support.


Absolutely agree, I can't imagining that scenario at Lafayette, in fact we all know what happened to us and pain we went through!!
Franks Tanks

flyfisher wrote:
Franks Tanks wrote:
flyfisher wrote:
I agree that he is a good coach but it also appears he has tremendous support from his AD and BOT.


Not so sure about that.  David Roach is the AD at Fordham, and he was at Colgate prior.  Colgate fans didn't like him, and Fordham fans aren't so crazy about him either.  Fordham guys also complain about their admin.  You have to realize that Fordham was an automatic win for much of their time in the league, and have stunk in basketball for 2 decades.  Their BOT isn't overly concerned about athletic success.

Moorhead is a very good coach.  He understands how to sell Fordham and NYC to recruits, is a bit fearless on the recruiting trail.  It doesn't hurt that they had a 3 year head start on football scholarships.


You just answered my question for me. They must have some support to go all in with scholarships 3 years before everyone else. And after the rest of the league said they were not going to do it. They basically said to the rest of the PL, this is what we are doing. What are you going to do about it? So they were not eligible for the playoff spot or the title for 3 years. Big deal. Meanwhile they are the jump on the rest of is. They also seem to have the support to bring in all" the transfers they choose.

You may not consider it a big deal but the rest of the country thought it was a slap in the face when they went scholarship and the rest of the league did not.  I would say that is tremendous support.


I spend little time thinking about Fordham, but their board complains about their AD and President often.  They deserve credit for sticking their neck out on the scholarship issue, I agree 100%, but the Fordham athletic department as a whole struggles a bit (albeit in a more competitive league).
carney2

flyfisher wrote:
I agree that he is a good coach but it also appears he has tremendous support from his AD and BOT.


Whatever, but apparently someone has decided to make football a priority in the Bronx.
flyfisher

carney2 wrote:
flyfisher wrote:
I agree that he is a good coach but it also appears he has tremendous support from his AD and BOT.


Whatever, but apparently someone has decided to make football a priority in the Bronx.


Whatever is right. We agree that someone made it a priority. A coach goes no where without the administration behind him.
Andy

Apparently FU has signed a soph FBS transfer QB to back up their other FBS transfer QB. Hey, why not!?
carney2

Andy wrote:
Apparently FU has signed a soph FBS transfer QB to back up their other FBS transfer QB. Hey, why not!?


Moorhead plays by a different set of rules.  But he is doing nothing "illegal."
SixtyEighter

In the late 70's I heard Dick Vermeil say that his number 1 priority in taking over the Eagles' job was to build a team to beat the Dallas Cowboys then the best team in the Eagles' division. When Bill Russo came to Lafayette I was lucky enough to have a 3 on one dinner with him at which I was free to ask anything I wanted. I asked him about that statement and he ticked off a list of goals but said his number 1 priority was to build a team to beat Delaware then the best team on Lafayette's schedule. Events overtook him. Delaware left the schedule but he did succeed in building a team good enough to beat Holy Cross when it joined in forming the Colonial League. Now the team to build to beat is Fordham if the goal is to win the PL Championship.
RichH

The new FU transfer QB,more likely a P for Rams not a QB.
Andy

RichH wrote:
The new FU transfer QB,more likely a P for Rams not a QB.


Excellent punter apparently, and may contribute there first, but surely transferred to compete at QB.

FIU site makes it sound like PT at QB was a motivation:

FOOTBALL

Punter/quarterback Luke Medlock came out of spring fourth at best on the quarterback depth chart behind ........

Nobody who threw a pass for Fordham in 2014 remains on the 2015 roster. That's where Medlock landed as a transfer, the school announced Wednesday.
SixtyEighter

Speaking of punters our recruit played in the Big33 game Saturday.He served as punter and kicker but his punts were a big factor in the rain shortened game.The Morning Call has a story about the game which was only a half due to lightning.Barring unforseen developments this kid should provide 4 years of competent kicking and competition at punter.
carney2

SixtyEighter wrote:
Speaking of punters our recruit played in the Big33 game Saturday.He served as punter and kicker but his punts were a big factor in the rain shortened game.The Morning Call has a story about the game which was only a half due to lightning.Barring unforseen developments this kid should provide 4 years of competent kicking and competition at punter.


If so, a big hole has been filled.  What are the chances that Frank gives him a shot at all three jobs:  punting, place kicking and kickoffs?  I seem to recall that he has been reluctant to do that in the past.
flyfisher

carney2 wrote:
SixtyEighter wrote:
Speaking of punters our recruit played in the Big33 game Saturday.He served as punter and kicker but his punts were a big factor in the rain shortened game.The Morning Call has a story about the game which was only a half due to lightning.Barring unforseen developments this kid should provide 4 years of competent kicking and competition at punter.


If so, a big hole has been filled.  What are the chances that Frank gives him a shot at all three jobs:  punting, place kicking and kickoffs?  I seem to recall that he has been reluctant to do that in the past.


i am sure he will get a look but most coaches are reluctant to do this. remember we have a kicker coming in as well and FT has said he is #1 on the depth chart before he even hits campus.
Andy

flyfisher wrote:
carney2 wrote:
SixtyEighter wrote:
Speaking of punters our recruit played in the Big33 game Saturday.He served as punter and kicker but his punts were a big factor in the rain shortened game.The Morning Call has a story about the game which was only a half due to lightning.Barring unforseen developments this kid should provide 4 years of competent kicking and competition at punter.


If so, a big hole has been filled.  What are the chances that Frank gives him a shot at all three jobs:  punting, place kicking and kickoffs?  I seem to recall that he has been reluctant to do that in the past.


i am sure he will get a look but most coaches are reluctant to do this. remember we have a kicker coming in as well and FT has said he is #1 on the depth chart before he even hits campus.


One and the same, fly.  Bissell P and K for PA Big 33.  Listed as a K on our roster.

2014 PL punting stats. Our distance was good, return yardage not so good:

PUNTING

                     G N  Yards   Avg/P  Ret   Avg/R  TB    Net/P
1. Lehigh         6 23  910    39.6    28     1.2     2       36.6
2. Holy Cross   6 24  988    41.2    43     1.8     4       36.0
3. Fordham      6 18  727    40.4   68     3.8      2      34.4
4. Lafayette     6 30  1192   39.7   142   4.7     3       33.0
5. Colgate        6 30  1074   35.8   102   3.4     3       30.4
6. Bucknell       6 31  1008  32.5   100    3.2     2       28.0
7. Georgetown  6 41  1525  37.2   368   9.0      5       25.8
flyfisher

Thank you Andy. I know FT is commented he is excited about a new placekicker. hopefully it works out. Will free up a scholarship down the road.
SixtyEighter

Bissell's bio on the Go-Leopard roster says his specialty is touchbacks.He is a very good FG and extra point kicker and made excellent punts in the Big33 game.I believe most coaches do not want one guy kicking and punting because they believe it detracts from both.The last guy I remember doing both well was Don Chandler who most of you are too young to remember. He played in the NFL for the Giants and Green Bay. We had a combo guy at Lafayette not too long ago and he was OK but not great.I don't remember his name but it was in the Russo- Tavani era.
bison137

More recently, Steve Little was an all-American for both punting and place kicking. Was a 1st round NFL  draft pick.   Also Ray Guy was a great FG kicker as well as a punter (and an all-American safety).  Both of them were far better than Chandler in both elements of kicking.
flyfisher

bison137 wrote:
More recently, Steve Little was an all-American for both punting and place kicking. Was a 1st round NFL  draft pick.   Also Ray Guy was a great FG kicker as well as a punter (and an all-American safety).  Both of them were far better than Chandler in both elements of kicking.


this must be a young crowd around here. i remember both those kickers. or maybe im just old
Lafalum

bison137 wrote:
More recently, Steve Little was an all-American for both punting and place kicking. Was a 1st round NFL  draft pick.   Also Ray Guy was a great FG kicker as well as a punter (and an all-American safety).  Both of them were far better than Chandler in both elements of kicking.

I remember when Oakland drafted  Guy….a great pick….was he a top five pick???
bethlehempard

Ray Guy was No. 23 in the 1973 draft.

Pick # NFL Team Player Position College
1 Houston Oilers John Matuszak Defensive End Tampa
2 Baltimore Colts (From New Orleans Saints) Bert Jones Quarterback LSU
3 Philadelphia Eagles Jerry Sisemore Offensive tackle Texas
4 New England Patriots John Hannah Guard Alabama
5 St. Louis Cardinals Dave Butz Defensive tackle Purdue
6 Philadelphia Eagles (From San Diego Chargers) Charle Young Tight end USC
7 Buffalo Bills Paul Seymour Tight End Michigan
8 Chicago Bears Wally Chambers Defensive end Eastern Kentucky
9 Denver Broncos Otis Armstrong Running back Purdue
10 Baltimore Colts Joe Ehrmann Defensive tackle Syracuse
11 New England Patriots (From Los Angeles Rams) Sam Cunningham Fullback USC
12 Minnesota Vikings Chuck Foreman Running back Miami (FL)
13 New York Jets Burgess Owens Safety Miami (FL)
14 Houston Oilers (From Atlanta Falcons) George Amundson Running back Iowa State
15 Cincinnati Bengals Isaac Curtis Wide receiver San Diego St.
16 Cleveland Browns (From New York Giants) Steve Holden Wide receiver Arizona State University
17 Detroit Lions Ernie Price Defensive end Texas A&I
18 San Francisco 49ers Mike Holmes Defensive back Texas Southern
19 New England Patriots (From Chicago Bears) Darryl Stingley Wide receiver Purdue
20 Dallas Cowboys Billy Joe Dupree Tight end Michigan State
21 Green Bay Packers Barry Smith Wide receiver Florida State
22 Cleveland Browns Pete Adams Offensive tackle USC
23 Oakland Raiders Ray Guy Punter Southern Miss
24 Pittsburgh Steelers J. T. Thomas Cornerback Florida State
25 San Diego Chargers (From Washington Redskins via Baltimore Colts) Johnny Rodgers [3] Wide receiver Nebraska
26 Buffalo Bills (From Miami Dolphins) Joe DeLamielleure  Buffalo Bills Cleveland Browns

Guy, Hannah and DeLamielleure (of the Electric Company) went to the NFL Hall of Fame.
Andy

Members of LC football family tweeting prayers for TE Brian Keller.  I'm adding mine. Apparently in an accident today.
Bogus Megapardus

Andy wrote:
Members of LC football family tweeting prayers for TE Brian Keller.  I'm adding mine. Apparently in an accident today.


Prayers from the "anonymous board" fans as well.  Keller is the presumptive #1 tight end, correct?  I hope he's OK.  Please let us know if you learn anything more, Andy.

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