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bethlehempard

Bucknell at Lafayette, pregame: Will we score Part II

Common opponent:
Georgetown 17 Bucknell 9
Georgetown 38 Lafayette 7

Too bad about Mrazek. No matter what fans see, young men are putting themselves at risk on every play, in every practice, and he was a bright spot. He will be next year too.
Bogus Megapardus

Bucknell has to be drooling for this one. Pards are their most-played rivalry and they're 34-52-6 against us, with just 13 wins all time in Easton since 1883.
bethlehempard

We have scored 72 points in eight games, 9 per contest. Almost half of those points were scored against Wagner. 35 of 72 points.
This is reaching biblical proportions. In the seven games ex-Wagner, 5 points per game.
***Corrects total points and averages.

Out-scored 274-72? 34-9 per game? And it started from Day One.
Pard4Life

Gotta follow the thread title etiquette of the board here! Observe:

Bucknell Pre-game: Will we score? Part 2

We start losing and societal norms start disintegrating. Focus!
Pard4Life

It was 21-0 BYU over Wagner after 7 minutes.

It was 35-0 after 20 minutes.

It was 49-0 at halftime

Final score was 70-6.

Wagner managed to score a TD vs BYU! BYU!!

We can't score against team letdown!
bethlehempard

Sorry ... Tradition is truly failing us.
Lafayette has not scored since 4:05 in the second quarter against Georgetown.
160 minutes 55 seconds. If the beer isn't misleading me.
I can't bear to look up the last time that happened.
"If you have a scoring drought that last more than two and a half hours, seek immediate medical help."
Pard4Life

The real question is: how far have we moved the ball? Closest I recall is the Harvard 18 in the early 4th.

And Bucknell has the best D in the PL, says Gary and Mike.
bethlehempard

1971: consecutive shutouts, Bucknell and Kings Point. Also by Delaware earlier.
1967: consecutive shutouts, Hofstra and Harvard.
1963: consecutive shutouts, Delaware and Temple. Also Penn earlier.
1961: zeroes against Bucknell and Gettysburgin a row, and Delaware earlier.
1954: three shutouts. None consecutive.
Then 1952, three straight shutouts. Muhlenberg, Princeton, Yale.
Also 1935: Albright, Colgate, Penn. 1930: Colgate, Penn State (tie), Washington & Jefferson. Also by Temple. Oddly enough the other five games were wins.
1917: Three straight zeroes, Muhlenberg, Penn, Swarthmore.
Six shutouts in 1916, but no more than two in a row (twice)
1898: four in a row. Penn, Navy, Lehigh, Cornell. Three in a row earlier: W&J, Penn State, Princeton.
There straight in 1884: Princeton, Penn and Rutgers.

In short, score against Bucknell or do something we haven't done in 63 years, and, I'm happy to say, since before I was born.
bethlehempard

In Frank's first year, 2000 and all that went with it, that 2-9 team scored 245 points or 22 per game. We are truly in uncharted territory.
bethlehempard

Pard4Life wrote:
The real question is: how far have we moved the ball? Closest I recall is the Harvard 18 in the early 4th.

And Bucknell has the best D in the PL, says Gary and Mike.


Harvard 10, third quarter, gave it up on downs. A FG would look nice now.
bethlehempard

We are No. 233 in the Sagarin ratings. This puts us ahead of Marist, Cornell, Wagner and the like. Ahead of 20 teams total. Davidson is last.
Pards Rule

A potentially frightful game against the BISON!
SixtyEighter

Bethlehem pard : You have failed to take into consideration that we are falling precipitously. By the end of thev season if we continue to lose by 40-45 points a game we will be down with Davidson. You should have given the numbers- we were at 20 going into the game and Davidson was at 7 - that's so low they should have the bends.
DFW HOYA

Pards Rule wrote:
A potentially frightful game against the BISON!


Lafayette fans should not take the Bison lightly. They outgained the Hoyas 412-288, its QB threw for a career high 338 yards, and Bucknell racked up nearly 37 minutes in time of possession.

So how did they end up with just nine points? Some big plays from the Georgetown defense in the red zone (Bucknell was 1 of 4 for the game) and critical penalties.

Coach Tavani needs to summon a little of the Art Briles playbook and attack Bucknell relentlessly from the air.
flyfisher

I don't think we can take anyone lightly
bison137

DFW HOYA wrote:
Pards Rule wrote:
A potentially frightful game against the BISON!


Lafayette fans should not take the Bison lightly. They outgained the Hoyas 412-288, its QB threw for a career high 338 yards, and Bucknell racked up nearly 37 minutes in time of possession.

So how did they end up with just nine points? Some big plays from the Georgetown defense in the red zone (Bucknell was 1 of 4 for the game) and critical penalties.

Coach Tavani needs to summon a little of the Art Briles playbook and attack Bucknell relentlessly from the air.




1. Yes, Bucknell moved the ball fairly easily as you say. But bad first down play-calling and some bad decision-making by Nitti in taking big-yardage sacks was critical. Also Bucknell having the worst place-kicking in FCS hurt. On Bucknell's last seven possessions, they scored zero points despite advancing inside the Georgetown 39 on six of them - and inside the Georgetown 15 on the last two possessions:

1. Got to GT 20 - missed FG
2. Got to GT 27 - lost ball on downs.
3. Got to GT 37 - punt (4th and 7)
4. Got to BU 37 - punt
5. Got to GT 39 - punt (4th and 9)
6. Got to GT 12 - Had 2nd and 5 on the 12; sacked on 4th down.
7. Got to GT 15 - Has 1st and 10 on 15; lost ball on downs.


2. "Attacking relentlessly from the air" will likely work. Bucknell lost its best CB to a serious ankle/achilles injury early in the first quarter, and its other starter has a serious shoulder injury that necessitates a harness. Additionally they have lost two starting safeties to injury - the best one likely for the year, the other one in yesterday's game (not sure how serious).


3. Will Carter left the game in the 4th quarter with an injury and did not return. At that point, he had caught 12 passes and was also overthrown on what should have been a long TD. Not sure of his status for this week.
LeopardAlum

DFW HOYA wrote:
Pards Rule wrote:
A potentially frightful game against the BISON!


Lafayette fans should not take the Bison lightly. They outgained the Hoyas 412-288, its QB threw for a career high 338 yards, and Bucknell racked up nearly 37 minutes in time of possession.

So how did they end up with just nine points? Some big plays from the Georgetown defense in the red zone (Bucknell was 1 of 4 for the game) and critical penalties.

Coach Tavani needs to summon a little of the Art Briles playbook and attack Bucknell relentlessly from the air.




I hate to break this to you. BUT ---- Frank Tavani has absolutely NOTHING to do with the game plan OR the play calling during the game. HE MAY make the decision whether to go for it on fourth down or to punt or to kick a FG ... also to accept penalties and what not. But Frank Tavani does not coach a position and he does not put a single word into game planning. ..... is this the culture of a successful winning program? NO.
SixtyEighter

For those who might be interested there was a long article in yesterday's Philadelphia Inquirer about Temple's "hot" football team. There is a lengthy discussion of the question of whether a successful team or teams helps a school. The president of Temple stated his unequivocal belief based on studies that successful sports programs boost applications , school recognition and giving.Theobold is his name and he was formerly president of Big Ten school Indiana.Temple is currently in a fund drive and attempting to marshal support for a new 35,000 seat stadium to be built on campus which is expected to cost $100,000,000.
BPard

Quote:
For those who might be interested there was a long article in yesterday's Philadelphia Inquirer about Temple's "hot" football team. There is a lengthy discussion of the question of whether a successful team or teams helps a school. The president of Temple stated his unequivocal belief based on studies that successful sports programs boost applications , school recognition and giving.Theobold is his name and he was formerly president of Big Ten school Indiana.Temple is currently in a fund drive and attempting to marshal support for a new 35,000 seat stadium to be built on campus which is expected to cost $100,000,000.

And their VP of Advancement is our own Jim Dicker.
Pards Rule

BPard wrote:
Quote:
For those who might be interested there was a long article in yesterday's Philadelphia Inquirer about Temple's "hot" football team. There is a lengthy discussion of the question of whether a successful team or teams helps a school. The president of Temple stated his unequivocal belief based on studies that successful sports programs boost applications , school recognition and giving.Theobold is his name and he was formerly president of Big Ten school Indiana.Temple is currently in a fund drive and attempting to marshal support for a new 35,000 seat stadium to be built on campus which is expected to cost $100,000,000.

And their VP of Advancement is our own Jim Dicker.


AND according to that article yesterday President Theobold stated they are 75% of the way there!!
CHIP72

As someone who also follows Temple football (excluding the Flyers, I'm a Philadelphia sports fan and I also root for the Big Five/City Six schools in addition to Lafayette and Lehigh), I definitely think Temple's football success this year has raised the school's profile. The fact they are playing Notre Dame in prime time in a game that will be nationally televised only will increase Temple's exposure around the U.S.

It would be interesting to see how notable accomplishments in high profile sports (i.e. football and men's basketball) impacted a school's student applications and other non-sports related attention, especially in a lower profile league like the Patriot League. To use a couple examples, I'm sure Lehigh's upset over Duke in the NCAA Tournament in 2012 and Bucknell's success over the last decade have helped both schools. Heck, Lafayette's semi-surprise appearance in last year's NCAA Tournament probably helped the school, even if they played a nearby school (Villanova) and were badly beaten in their only game.

P.S. I'll be attending the Notre Dame/Temple game and am looking forward to it.
ed65

Someone should introduce the Temple Prez to Alison and Ahart.  Better yet, he should make a presentation to the LC Board.
bethlehempard

Hello Chip, as a huge Temple fan myself (father was in the Class of 1948) I wanted to point out that Coach Hardin's son Gary runs the golf program at Northampton Country Club and is highly regarded.
The old ball coach is now 88.
I hope Coach Ruehl sticks around but Temple is another example of turnover at the top not being all bad. I didn't care much for what Addazio did though.
Go Owls!
I don't think PJ Walker has put together a great game this season, several good ones certainly, but there's no time like Saturday night.

***two Bucknell tickets available send a pm if interested.
Bogus Megapardus

Week 9 Sportsbook:

Harvard (-7) vs. Dartmouth o/u 45

Lehigh (-4) vs. Georgetown o/u 51

Brown (-1) vs. Penn o/u 72

Yale (-15) vs. Columbia o/u 40

Fordham (-9) at Colgate o/u 69

Holy Cross (-5) vs. Bryant o/u 46

Bucknell (-7) at Lafayette o/u 32

Princeton (-23) vs. Cornell o/u 55

***************************

Other Games of Interest:

Duquesne (-19) vs. Wagner o/u 47

Stony Brook (-Cool vs. Elon o/u 28

New Hampshire (-31) vs. Rhode Island o/u 49

Wofford (-7) at VMI o/u 59

Towson (-5) vs. Delaware o/u 44

Richmond (-26) vs. Albany o/u 55

William & Mary (-4) vs. James Madison o/u 70

Villanova (-11) vs. Maine o/u 41
SIDELINER

The Morning Call's story from Tuesday's luncheon.

http://www.mcall.com/sports/colle...knell-preview-20151027-story.html

Nothing from the E-T yet.
LeopardBall10

SIDELINER wrote:
The Morning Call's story from Tuesday's luncheon.

http://www.mcall.com/sports/colle...knell-preview-20151027-story.html

Nothing from the E-T yet.


I really don't know what's the worst part of the article: Frank's comment about Susan being excited to play the Leopards or Nick Zataveski's comment that last weeks 77 yard rushing performance was "a real upside for us" as it was the highest rushing total since the opener.

While I appreciate Frank's snark, I don't know if that is the best thing to put in the paper for fans and players to read.
NE Leopard

LeopardBall10 wrote:
SIDELINER wrote:
The Morning Call's story from Tuesday's luncheon.

http://www.mcall.com/sports/colle...knell-preview-20151027-story.html

Nothing from the E-T yet.


I really don't know what's the worst part of the article: Frank's comment about Susan being excited to play the Leopards or Nick Zataveski's comment that last weeks 77 yard rushing performance was "a real upside for us" as it was the highest rushing total since the opener.

While I appreciate Frank's snark, I don't know if that is the best thing to put in the paper for fans and players to read.


It was Kevin Z. and if you saw the game, the OLINE was making good holes for #30 to run through. Considering what they (OL's) have been through with the injuries and inexperience, it was encouraging to see. They now need to continue to drive the ball down the field and score. MF needs to stick with the run game a bit more to open up the intermediate passing game, as we can't get the ball downfield well now. Moving the chains, keeping possession and scoring should be the first priority of any OC.
LeopardBall10

NE Leopard wrote:
LeopardBall10 wrote:
SIDELINER wrote:
The Morning Call's story from Tuesday's luncheon.

http://www.mcall.com/sports/colle...knell-preview-20151027-story.html

Nothing from the E-T yet.


I really don't know what's the worst part of the article: Frank's comment about Susan being excited to play the Leopards or Nick Zataveski's comment that last weeks 77 yard rushing performance was "a real upside for us" as it was the highest rushing total since the opener.

While I appreciate Frank's snark, I don't know if that is the best thing to put in the paper for fans and players to read.


It was Kevin Z. and if you saw the game, the OLINE was making good holes for #30 to run through. Considering what they (OL's) have been through with the injuries and inexperience, it was encouraging to see. They now need to continue to drive the ball down the field and score. MF needs to stick with the run game a bit more to open up the intermediate passing game, as we can't get the ball downfield well now. Moving the chains, keeping possession and scoring should be the first priority of any OC.


I don't disagree at all. I just think it is a testament to the state of the season when a 77 yard rushing effort is the high point of the O-Line performance. And it is rough to see that fact acknowledged in print.
NE Leopard

LeopardBall10 wrote:
NE Leopard wrote:
LeopardBall10 wrote:
SIDELINER wrote:
The Morning Call's story from Tuesday's luncheon.

http://www.mcall.com/sports/colle...knell-preview-20151027-story.html

Nothing from the E-T yet.


I really don't know what's the worst part of the article: Frank's comment about Susan being excited to play the Leopards or Nick Zataveski's comment that last weeks 77 yard rushing performance was "a real upside for us" as it was the highest rushing total since the opener.

While I appreciate Frank's snark, I don't know if that is the best thing to put in the paper for fans and players to read.


It was Kevin Z. and if you saw the game, the OLINE was making good holes for #30 to run through. Considering what they (OL's) have been through with the injuries and inexperience, it was encouraging to see. They now need to continue to drive the ball down the field and score. MF needs to stick with the run game a bit more to open up the intermediate passing game, as we can't get the ball downfield well now. Moving the chains, keeping possession and scoring should be the first priority of any OC.


I don't disagree at all. I just think it is a testament to the state of the season when a 77 yard rushing effort is the high point of the O-Line performance. And it is rough to see that fact acknowledged in print.


It doesn't help when we fumble the ball while driving it down the field. Not to mention the 7+ red zone interceptions..what if??

The offensive game plan needs to be more consistent, we keep changing things while never fully flushing out what we attempt. As I said above, moving the chains consistently down the field helps gain confidence for a young OLINE and keeps the defense off the field. What, we've had countless 3 and outs and our 3rd and long % is enormous. Look for good improvement Saturday!
SixtyEighter

There is no" what if?!". Those red zone picks were all horrible throws that never should have been attempted.
NE Leopard

SixtyEighter wrote:
There is no" what if?!". Those red zone picks were all horrible throws that never should have been attempted.


You are correct, probably should have not been thrown, but the point is we were sniffing the end-zone 7+ times with no scores, add in the 3 blocked FG's and we are looking at least another 5 or 6 scores for the season. Who the hell know what that would have done to the morale and motivation of the team, plus it takes the ball out of the other team's hands.

It is hard to win in D1, but it is easy to lose when you don't execute and finish. I'm confident our young men are learning what not to do, looking forward to seeing it on the field over the next 3 games and into the future, regardless of who the leader is.

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