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carney2

Bucknell PREgame Thread

Hello, Maniacs, and welcome to Week 9 of the Patriot League season and Week 8 of the Lafayette dream walk.  After a welcome, if not overwhelming, victory over the Rams of Fordham it is time to consider the Buffalos of Bucknell.

I'm trying desperately to think of something threatening or imposing to say about the blundering herd.  You know, something about a trap game, or looking ahead, or one of those other rousing sports speak crapolas.  Sorry, but I've got nothing.  94 has already predicted a 38-0 "walk" by the Pards.  I disagree.  I think the Buffs will score.
65Pard

Re: Bucknell PREgame Thread

[quote="  I think the Buffs will score.[/quote]

Given the current Leopard personality, it's almost a sure thing they will score if they get the ball with, say, 2 minutes left in the first half.

It's that damn prevent defense that coaches of all stripes are so fond of....

Pards should take this one by 24 points or more.

One thing that disturbs is that without some very unexpected miraculous catches, we could well be 4-3.....Can we expect the miracles to continue?
Pard94

Re: Bucknell PREgame Thread

65Pard wrote:
[quote="  I think the Buffs will score.


Given the current Leopard personality, it's almost a sure thing they will score if they get the ball with, say, 2 minutes left in the first half.

It's that damn prevent defense that coaches of all stripes are so fond of....

Pards should take this one by 24 points or more.

One thing that disturbs is that without some very unexpected miraculous catches, we could well be 4-3.....Can we expect the miracles to continue?[/quote]

I'll take it a step further 65...if we hadn't scored all of those touchdowns and won all of those games we could have just as easily been 0-7! I don't mean to be a wise ass I just never understood that line of thinking. Fact of the matter is somebody on that coaching staff recrutied the likes of Mark Layton and Mitchell Bennet becuase they fully expected them to make miraculous catches. And finally we have an offensive game plan to put them in the right spots to make miraculous catches. The way these guys (Bennet, Curley, Layton, etc.) are playing I have come to expect at least one miraculous catch a game and I am disappointed when it doesn't happen.

On a different but related note....I saw Bennet interviewed after the game. I guess I didn't realize he was a Sophomore. He looks like he's 26! If that kid isn't a pro prospect I don't know who is. He's 6,4. fast and very athletic. That stiff arm yesterday was something from the NFL. My only concern is who will be throwing him the ball for the next two years. I'd love to get a big lead early against Bucknell and put in the QB of the future whoever that may be. I think Bennet needs to start developing chemistry with that person now. I'm very excited about him.
Lafalum

Is it a miraculous catch if it happens every game? These guys are good... end of arguement!!!
Pard94

Lafalum wrote:
Is it a miraculous catch if it happens every game? These guys are good... end of arguement!!!


Nope. That's just Lafayette football baby!!!! God I'm having fun this year.
carney2

Re: Bucknell PREgame Thread

Pard94 wrote:
I don't mean to be a wise ass


You just can't help yourself.
Pard94

Re: Bucknell PREgame Thread

carney2 wrote:
Pard94 wrote:
I don't mean to be a wise ass


You just can't help yourself.


It does sort of come naturally.  Very Happy
65Pard

Re: Bucknell PREgame Thread

Pard94 wrote:
65Pard wrote:
[quote="  I think the Buffs will score.


Can we expect the miracles to continue?


I just never understood that line of thinking.

.I saw Bennet interviewed after the game.  I'm very excited about him.[/quote]

That's the line of thinking that has coaches drawing up game plans that don't rely on converting 3rd and 17, or one handed catches, or roughing the kicker penalties to extend drives.....sure we are going to get some of that but we have been very fortunate in the timing of such this year.

I was just asking if we can continue to expect it and we have your answer........but don't have the illusion that we cannot be similarly victimized.


Yes this is a very good squad and I too am very impressed with Bennet and have been a Curley believer since early last season.

This team is good, maybe destined to win out,  but it does not have a monopoly on miracles......

Surprised that Carney is not injecting a dose of reality here......euphoria is unbecoming to his persona.
carney2

Re: Bucknell PREgame Thread

65Pard wrote:
Surprised that Carney is not injecting a dose of reality here......euphoria is unbecoming to his persona.


I'm not sure what you mean.  I'm not seeing the same "miracles" that you see.  Curley is one of those "can't do anything but win" type QBs.  The receiving corps is doing pretty much what we expected them to do when we saw their recruiting resumes back in February of 2007 and 2008.  The defense is outstanding, as expected.  At this point we are starting to see some cracks in the facade.  (For instance, with 7 games in the rear view mirror, we have yet to establish a solid running game with the 4 horsemen.)  Still, Frank and his coaching staff have plugged more of their perceived preseason holes than any team in the Patriot League.  It is difficult at this point not to view them as odds on favorites to win this thing.
65Pard

While I agree that this Leopard team has come together  and some real stars have emerged, I am saying that timely one handed grabs and 2 critical penalties enabled us to win games that we may not have won...I said "may" not "could"......

At this point it's probably 50/50 in my mind whether we or HC takes the PL.....I definitely agree Curley is a winner and we have lots of talent elsewhere but the crown is not a foregone conclusion.....

Maybe that's 47 years of many more heartbreaks than triumphs talking......
Pards Rule

Re: Bucknell PREgame Thread

Pard94 wrote:
65Pard wrote:
[quote="  I think the Buffs will score.


Given the current Leopard personality, it's almost a sure thing they will score if they get the ball with, say, 2 minutes left in the first half.

It's that damn prevent defense that coaches of all stripes are so fond of....

Pards should take this one by 24 points or more.

One thing that disturbs is that without some very unexpected miraculous catches, we could well be 4-3.....Can we expect the miracles to continue?


I'll take it a step further 65...if we hadn't scored all of those touchdowns and won all of those games we could have just as easily been 0-7! I don't mean to be a wise ass I just never understood that line of thinking. Fact of the matter is somebody on that coaching staff recrutied the likes of Mark Layton and Mitchell Bennet becuase they fully expected them to make miraculous catches. And finally we have an offensive game plan to put them in the right spots to make miraculous catches. The way these guys (Bennet, Curley, Layton, etc.) are playing I have come to expect at least one miraculous catch a game and I am disappointed when it doesn't happen.

On a different but related note....I saw Bennet interviewed after the game. I guess I didn't realize he was a Sophomore. He looks like he's 26! If that kid isn't a pro prospect I don't know who is. He's 6,4. fast and very athletic. That stiff arm yesterday was something from the NFL. My only concern is who will be throwing him the ball for the next two years. I'd love to get a big lead early against Bucknell and put in the QB of the future whoever that may be. I think Bennet needs to start developing chemistry with that person now. I'm very excited about him.[/quote]

I believe that would be the sophomore Ryan O'Neil (#11)
Franks Tanks

Re: Bucknell PREgame Thread

Pards Rule wrote:
Pard94 wrote:
65Pard wrote:
[quote="  I think the Buffs will score.


Given the current Leopard personality, it's almost a sure thing they will score if they get the ball with, say, 2 minutes left in the first half.

It's that damn prevent defense that coaches of all stripes are so fond of....

Pards should take this one by 24 points or more.

One thing that disturbs is that without some very unexpected miraculous catches, we could well be 4-3.....Can we expect the miracles to continue?


I'll take it a step further 65...if we hadn't scored all of those touchdowns and won all of those games we could have just as easily been 0-7! I don't mean to be a wise ass I just never understood that line of thinking. Fact of the matter is somebody on that coaching staff recrutied the likes of Mark Layton and Mitchell Bennet becuase they fully expected them to make miraculous catches. And finally we have an offensive game plan to put them in the right spots to make miraculous catches. The way these guys (Bennet, Curley, Layton, etc.) are playing I have come to expect at least one miraculous catch a game and I am disappointed when it doesn't happen.

On a different but related note....I saw Bennet interviewed after the game. I guess I didn't realize he was a Sophomore. He looks like he's 26! If that kid isn't a pro prospect I don't know who is. He's 6,4. fast and very athletic. That stiff arm yesterday was something from the NFL. My only concern is who will be throwing him the ball for the next two years. I'd love to get a big lead early against Bucknell and put in the QB of the future whoever that may be. I think Bennet needs to start developing chemistry with that person now. I'm very excited about him.


I believe that would be the sophomore Ryan O'Neil (#11)[/quote]

Quilling will be back next year as well.  Andrew Shoop had a great High School career (2,500 yards in one year!) as we suspossedly a very good "get" for us.  Hopefully the kid is as good as advertised, but he may not be ready for next year.

It says Shoop had an offer from Temple and was reqruited by some Big East type schools who ultimately decided notto make an offer.

http://www.dailyitem.com/0200_sports/local_story_027014504.html


I have no idea how he is progressing, but he appears to be the most physically talented QB we will have on the roster next year.
Franks Tanks

Re: Bucknell PREgame Thread

Franks Tanks wrote:
Pards Rule wrote:
Pard94 wrote:
65Pard wrote:
[quote="  I think the Buffs will score.


Given the current Leopard personality, it's almost a sure thing they will score if they get the ball with, say, 2 minutes left in the first half.

It's that damn prevent defense that coaches of all stripes are so fond of....

Pards should take this one by 24 points or more.

One thing that disturbs is that without some very unexpected miraculous catches, we could well be 4-3.....Can we expect the miracles to continue?


I'll take it a step further 65...if we hadn't scored all of those touchdowns and won all of those games we could have just as easily been 0-7! I don't mean to be a wise ass I just never understood that line of thinking. Fact of the matter is somebody on that coaching staff recrutied the likes of Mark Layton and Mitchell Bennet becuase they fully expected them to make miraculous catches. And finally we have an offensive game plan to put them in the right spots to make miraculous catches. The way these guys (Bennet, Curley, Layton, etc.) are playing I have come to expect at least one miraculous catch a game and I am disappointed when it doesn't happen.

On a different but related note....I saw Bennet interviewed after the game. I guess I didn't realize he was a Sophomore. He looks like he's 26! If that kid isn't a pro prospect I don't know who is. He's 6,4. fast and very athletic. That stiff arm yesterday was something from the NFL. My only concern is who will be throwing him the ball for the next two years. I'd love to get a big lead early against Bucknell and put in the QB of the future whoever that may be. I think Bennet needs to start developing chemistry with that person now. I'm very excited about him.


I believe that would be the sophomore Ryan O'Neil (#11)


Quilling will be back next year as well.  Andrew Shoop had a great High School career (2,500 yards in one year!) as  he was suspossedly a very good "get" for us.  Hopefully the kid is as good as advertised, but he may not be ready for next year.

It says Shoop had an offer from Temple and was recruited by some Big East type schools who ultimately decided not to make an offer.

http://www.dailyitem.com/0200_sports/local_story_027014504.html


I have no idea how he is progressing, but he appears to be the most physically talented QB we will have on the roster next year.[/quote]
Pard94

Re: Bucknell PREgame Thread

Franks Tanks wrote:
Franks Tanks wrote:
Pards Rule wrote:
Pard94 wrote:
65Pard wrote:
[quote="  I think the Buffs will score.


Given the current Leopard personality, it's almost a sure thing they will score if they get the ball with, say, 2 minutes left in the first half.

It's that damn prevent defense that coaches of all stripes are so fond of....

Pards should take this one by 24 points or more.

One thing that disturbs is that without some very unexpected miraculous catches, we could well be 4-3.....Can we expect the miracles to continue?


I'll take it a step further 65...if we hadn't scored all of those touchdowns and won all of those games we could have just as easily been 0-7! I don't mean to be a wise ass I just never understood that line of thinking. Fact of the matter is somebody on that coaching staff recrutied the likes of Mark Layton and Mitchell Bennet becuase they fully expected them to make miraculous catches. And finally we have an offensive game plan to put them in the right spots to make miraculous catches. The way these guys (Bennet, Curley, Layton, etc.) are playing I have come to expect at least one miraculous catch a game and I am disappointed when it doesn't happen.

On a different but related note....I saw Bennet interviewed after the game. I guess I didn't realize he was a Sophomore. He looks like he's 26! If that kid isn't a pro prospect I don't know who is. He's 6,4. fast and very athletic. That stiff arm yesterday was something from the NFL. My only concern is who will be throwing him the ball for the next two years. I'd love to get a big lead early against Bucknell and put in the QB of the future whoever that may be. I think Bennet needs to start developing chemistry with that person now. I'm very excited about him.


I believe that would be the sophomore Ryan O'Neil (#11)


Quilling will be back next year as well.  Andrew Shoop had a great High School career (2,500 yards in one year!) as  he was suspossedly a very good "get" for us.  Hopefully the kid is as good as advertised, but he may not be ready for next year.

It says Shoop had an offer from Temple and was recruited by some Big East type schools who ultimately decided not to make an offer.

http://www.dailyitem.com/0200_sports/local_story_027014504.html


I have no idea how he is progressing, but he appears to be the most physically talented QB we will have on the roster next year.
[/quote]

man, I don't want to push the kid too early but Shoop sounds pretty legit. Nothing like a stud receiver to make a Sophomore QB look more like a junior QB.

What the hell am I talking about? We still have 4 weeks to go in this season! Sorry about that. Bennet has me thinking to a rosy Lafayette future. Can't get ahead of myself.
carney2

In this morning's blog

http://blogs.mcall.com/sports/

Paul Reinhard brought up OL Joe Moore.  Does anyone know his status?
Pard4Life

Don't forget about Colgate winning the league either. We have yet to beat a good Colgate team in Tavani's tenure. They could bring their 'A' game on November 7 and we could play like we did vs Columbia and Fordham. Those seven wins didn't come from nowhere.
2008pards

Mr Administrator:  Can we get the "Beat Bucknell" heading going on the football page?
Franks Tanks

carney2 wrote:
In this morning's blog

http://blogs.mcall.com/sports/

Paul Reinhard brought up OL Joe Moore.  Does anyone know his status?


It appears Joe is just having a hard time coming back from his torn ACL last year.  As someone noted he was limping off the field after the Georgetown game earlier this year and I think he just isnt 100%.

I had ACL surgery as well and struggled to come back the year after, despite optomistic outlook from the doctors and constant claims that I was "ahead of schedule".

I feel for Joe.  He is an excellent player who came back for a 5th year, but he just isnt healty it appears
Pard94

Franks Tanks wrote:
carney2 wrote:
In this morning's blog

http://blogs.mcall.com/sports/

Paul Reinhard brought up OL Joe Moore.  Does anyone know his status?


It appears Joe is just having a hard time coming back from his torn ACL last year.  As someone noted he was limping off the field after the Georgetown game earlier this year and I think he just isnt 100%.

I had ACL surgery as well and struggled to come back the year after, despite optomistic outlook from the doctors and constant claims that I was "ahead of schedule".

I feel for Joe.  He is an excellent player who came back for a 5th year, but he just isnt healty it appears


FT, you played with Matt Trainam (sp?) didn't you? Talk about a beast of an o-lineman whose knees eventually betrayed him. One of the few bright spots for Lafayette during The Dark Years. Too bad for Joe.
Franks Tanks

Pard94 wrote:
Franks Tanks wrote:
carney2 wrote:
In this morning's blog

http://blogs.mcall.com/sports/

Paul Reinhard brought up OL Joe Moore.  Does anyone know his status?


It appears Joe is just having a hard time coming back from his torn ACL last year.  As someone noted he was limping off the field after the Georgetown game earlier this year and I think he just isnt 100%.

I had ACL surgery as well and struggled to come back the year after, despite optomistic outlook from the doctors and constant claims that I was "ahead of schedule".

I feel for Joe.  He is an excellent player who came back for a 5th year, but he just isnt healty it appears


FT, you played with Matt Trainam (sp?) didn't you? Talk about a beast of an o-lineman whose knees eventually betrayed him. One of the few bright spots for Lafayette during The Dark Years. Too bad for Joe.


Matt was in school with me but his last year playing was the year before I arrived so I actually never played or practiced with him.  Strollo thought he was one of the best to come through Lafayette before his injuries mounted.
Kiltedpard

Re: Bucknell PREgame Thread

One thing that disturbs is that without some very unexpected miraculous catches, we could well be 4-3.....Can we expect the miracles to continue?[/quote]

I think that you need to put this in the category of someone making a play, not a miracle. Considering that Layton has made 3 one handers, I think he's just a darn good receiver!
carney2

Early forecast for Saturday is 40% chance of rain.  Here we go again.  Isn't this the 6th consecutive week of either rain or a serious threat thereof?
carney2

Lafayette has moved up to the equivalent of number 27 in the AGS poll, behind Holy Cross (20), Liberty (21), and Colgate (25).

We are number 28 on the TSN poll where, incredibly, Lehigh at 2-5 is still registering votes (only 5, but even 1 proves that this poll is done by morons).
Pard94

carney2 wrote:
Lafayette has moved up to the equivalent of number 27 in the AGS poll, behind Holy Cross (20), Liberty (21), and Colgate (25).


That's still not Top 25. We're safe for another week...at least on the AGS poll.
carney2

"They ought to just go ahead and give Lafayette the trophy as the Ivy League champion," Penn coach Al Bagnoli said this week. "They've earned it. They beat everybody."
carney2

And the final poll is in with the Coaches Poll showing Lafayette in "Others Receiving Votes" at the equivalent of number 27.
Pard4Life

Reversing some earlier thoughts in here; we should hope for a good national ranking because it factors into the GPI for playoff selection. With a good enough GPI we could maybe avoid a first round game against a power CAA team if we win out somehow. Home game would be contingent upon our financial bid.
Pard94

Pard4Life wrote:
Reversing some earlier thoughts in here; we should hope for a good national ranking because it factors into the GPI for playoff selection. With a good enough GPI we could maybe avoid a first round game against a power CAA team if we win out somehow. Home game would be contingent upon our financial bid.


We won't sniff a national ranking until and unless we beat Colgate. At that point I suspect we would be somewhere in the 20-25 realm. If we beat Holy Cross I suspect we would be in the 15-20 range. If we make the playoffs I doubt highly Lafayette would pony up the $$ needed for a home game...Best we pack our bags. As long as we are dreaming...assuming we would travel in the playoffs, what are the chances they might get a game in the Northeast. UNH, UMass...I'd love to go watch those. UNH would be awesome for me.

Of course I feel obliged to say none of this happens until we run the table. That starts with Bucknell.
Franks Tanks

Pard94 wrote:
Pard4Life wrote:
Reversing some earlier thoughts in here; we should hope for a good national ranking because it factors into the GPI for playoff selection. With a good enough GPI we could maybe avoid a first round game against a power CAA team if we win out somehow. Home game would be contingent upon our financial bid.


We won't sniff a national ranking until and unless we beat Colgate. At that point I suspect we would be somewhere in the 20-25 realm. If we beat Holy Cross I suspect we would be in the 15-20 range. If we make the playoffs I doubt highly Lafayette would pony up the $$ needed for a home game...Best we pack our bags. As long as we are dreaming...assuming we would travel in the playoffs, what are the chances they might get a game in the Northeast. UNH, UMass...I'd love to go watch those. UNH would be awesome for me.

Of course I feel obliged to say none of this happens until we run the table. That starts with Bucknell.


Nova and Richmond would also be high seeds if they do what is expected. The PL winner would be going to either Nova, Richmond, UNH, or UMASS it looks like.  They like to avoid re-matches in the first round and most of those CAA teams would have played each other already.  Also them seem to send the OVC or MEAC winner to the Southern schools like APP State or Elon, so they would probably go there.
Pard94

Franks Tanks wrote:
Pard94 wrote:
Pard4Life wrote:
Reversing some earlier thoughts in here; we should hope for a good national ranking because it factors into the GPI for playoff selection. With a good enough GPI we could maybe avoid a first round game against a power CAA team if we win out somehow. Home game would be contingent upon our financial bid.


We won't sniff a national ranking until and unless we beat Colgate. At that point I suspect we would be somewhere in the 20-25 realm. If we beat Holy Cross I suspect we would be in the 15-20 range. If we make the playoffs I doubt highly Lafayette would pony up the $$ needed for a home game...Best we pack our bags. As long as we are dreaming...assuming we would travel in the playoffs, what are the chances they might get a game in the Northeast. UNH, UMass...I'd love to go watch those. UNH would be awesome for me.

Of course I feel obliged to say none of this happens until we run the table. That starts with Bucknell.


Nova and Richmond would also be high seeds if they do what is expected. The PL winner would be going to either Nova, Richmond, UNH, or UMASS it looks like.  They like to avoid re-matches in the first round and most of those CAA teams would have played each other already.  Also them seem to send the OVC or MEAC winner to the Southern schools like APP State or Elon, so they would probably go there.


I can't stresss enough to the Football Gods how we all realize such talk is waaayyy premature as we have yet to really seperate ourselves from even last year's performance. There...that being said and well documented...I like your line of thinking FT. Assuming they avoid rematches I have a one in three chance of watching the Leopards play the Wildcats in Durham. HOWEVER...it's worth noting that UNH's stadium is a borderline high school facility. I think they may have lights but the list of ammentities end there. I guess they have hosted playoff games in the past but there is no way their facilities stack up against ours.

FT...what do you think the chances of hosting a game are if we were (BIG IF) to win the PL AQ? I know Tavani would bust a blood vessel if we didn't put in a bid to do so...not to mention Bouger.
2008pards

I like the way the team has approached this season, one championship game at a time. That mindset seems to be working for them pretty well. I hope they focus on beating Bucknell then after that Colgate, then Holy Cross and then lehigh.

While it's tough not to look ahead, Bucknell just got back their best receiver (Pasternik) who missed most of the first 5 games and the QB (Trigg) looks like he's 1000% better just by having Pasternik back on the field. Trigg is a tough guy who can run and pass pretty well.

I certainly agree LC should beat them, but games are played on fields not on paper and keeping focused on that week's opponent seems to me to be a smart and effective strategy for overcoming "trap games" and the like.

Go LC, beat Bucknell!!
Franks Tanks

Pard94 wrote:
Franks Tanks wrote:
Pard94 wrote:
Pard4Life wrote:
Reversing some earlier thoughts in here; we should hope for a good national ranking because it factors into the GPI for playoff selection. With a good enough GPI we could maybe avoid a first round game against a power CAA team if we win out somehow. Home game would be contingent upon our financial bid.


We won't sniff a national ranking until and unless we beat Colgate. At that point I suspect we would be somewhere in the 20-25 realm. If we beat Holy Cross I suspect we would be in the 15-20 range. If we make the playoffs I doubt highly Lafayette would pony up the $$ needed for a home game...Best we pack our bags. As long as we are dreaming...assuming we would travel in the playoffs, what are the chances they might get a game in the Northeast. UNH, UMass...I'd love to go watch those. UNH would be awesome for me.

Of course I feel obliged to say none of this happens until we run the table. That starts with Bucknell.


Nova and Richmond would also be high seeds if they do what is expected. The PL winner would be going to either Nova, Richmond, UNH, or UMASS it looks like.  They like to avoid re-matches in the first round and most of those CAA teams would have played each other already.  Also them seem to send the OVC or MEAC winner to the Southern schools like APP State or Elon, so they would probably go there.


I can't stresss enough to the Football Gods how we all realize such talk is waaayyy premature as we have yet to really seperate ourselves from even last year's performance. There...that being said and well documented...I like your line of thinking FT. Assuming they avoid rematches I have a one in three chance of watching the Leopards play the Wildcats in Durham. HOWEVER...it's worth noting that UNH's stadium is a borderline high school facility. I think they may have lights but the list of ammentities end there. I guess they have hosted playoff games in the past but there is no way their facilities stack up against ours.

FT...what do you think the chances of hosting a game are if we were (BIG IF) to win the PL AQ? I know Tavani would bust a blood vessel if we didn't put in a bid to do so...not to mention Bouger.


I am by no means an expert in playoff seating, but from what I understand they do tend to award home games to schools that have the ability to draw fans if possible.  I think that was a big reason why Lehigh got home games in the past, especially in 2004 when they lost to us and then hosted eventual national champs JMU in the first round of the playoffs.  Since Lehigh and Colgate have hosted playoff games in the past I see no reason why we cant.  The Holy Cross fans seem to think they will be awarded a home game of the win out, and we can be in the same position it appears.

Someone said that you simply need to guarantee 50k for a home game.  Basically that 50k would be put in upfront and and profits from ticket sales can then go toward that 50k investment.  After selling a few tickets the cost may be the same as putting a team up in a hotel on short notice.
Pard4Life

Several CAA teams will make the playoffs so we will undoubtedly face one of them. My bet is on Villanova or HC at UNH/UMass. If we somehow win out and are ranked strongly enough, we might avoid Nova and likely play those NE teams. Or Delaware. Maybe the football stadium donors set aside money for a playoff game? But whatever, we are a better road team anyway.

I think the only way UNH gets a home game is if they are seeded due to their small stadium size. So I guess UMass is a more likely destination in NE.
Pard94

Alright alright...the Football Gods are getting pissed...I can feel it. All talk of playoffs need to cease and desist right now. Carney, do you have an extra chicken claw I can wear around my neck for the next couple of days? We need to appease the Gods.
Pard4Life

Pard94 wrote:
Alright alright...the Football Gods are getting pissed...I can feel it. All talk of playoffs need to cease and desist right now. Carney, do you have an extra chicken claw I can wear around my neck for the next couple of days? We need to appease the Gods.


Oh come on, this is Lafayette football... something wacky and illogical is bound to happen to our season... then again that sounds like winning too. Healthy players is probably our biggest obstacle, along with HC and Colgate. They can capitalize on our flaws... namely Randolph (a mobile QB who can throw accurately and to the middle of the field and sidelines).
carney2

Franks Tanks wrote:
I am by no means an expert in playoff seating, but from what I understand they do tend to award home games to schools that have the ability to draw fans if possible.


Only the top 4 seeds - and only 4 teams are seeded, so 1 does not play "16" - get "awarded" home games.  The other 4 first round games are purchased.  The school makes a bid to the NCAA, bearing in mind the NCAA guaranteed minimum (it used to be $30,000, but who knows...).  This explains why Delaware and Montana, two schools with large stadiums and guaranteed sellouts, always - ALWAYS - get home games.

Best bet is that, given the economic climate, Lafayette would not take the risk and submit a bid.  A "crowd" of 5-6,000 would be a disaster.  That means pack up, it's a road trip.
Andy

Go Pards, Beat Bucknell!!!
Pard4Life

We are averaging 7812 fans through four games. Our last game had only 6600 (fair weather fans!) Add 2000 to the total (comparable to last two years) and we'd be averaging 8300 through four. I'll assume 12000 will show combined, so our season total will likely be 7200 per game. Not enough to convince the committee.

Of course if we had Lehigh, we could "cook the books" to 8700 fans.
Pard94

Pard4Life wrote:
We are averaging 7812 fans through four games. Our last game had only 6600 (fair weather fans!) Add 2000 to the total (comparable to last two years) and we'd be averaging 8300 through four. I'll assume 12000 will show combined, so our season total will likely be 7200 per game. Not enough to convince the committee.

Of course if we had Lehigh, we could "cook the books" to 8700 fans.


It has been unfortunate that every home game this year has been either played in the rain or under the threat of rain (enough to keep people away even if it doesn't end up raining). I have no doubt the numbers are well skewed because of this.
Newleopardfan

Re: QB of the future...

I think you can see Shoop play and judge for yourself, this Sunday, 2:00, JV game vs. US Military Prep at LC. The young man has a strong, accurate arm and great leadership presence but got picked clean for an int / TD by Albright last week after telegraphing a pass. He also made several really nice passes in the scrimmage. I think he just needs some seasoning and will be great.
carney2

Pard4Life wrote:
We are averaging 7812 fans through four games. Our last game had only 6600 (fair weather fans!) Add 2000 to the total (comparable to last two years) and we'd be averaging 8300 through four. I'll assume 12000 will show combined, so our season total will likely be 7200 per game. Not enough to convince the committee.


One more time - and I hope in English - you do not need to "convince the committee."  It's all about the money.  Show them the money!  You make a bid and guarantee the NCAA the dollar amount of your bid.  It doesn't matter if only the parents of the players have showed up all year.  It doesn't matter if no one shows up at the game.  The only thing that matters is the size of the check.  I think those SOBs would stage the games at empty high school fields if the checks were big enough.
carney2

Re: QB of the future...

Newleopardfan wrote:
I think you can see Shoop play and judge for yourself, this Sunday, 2:00, JV game vs. US Military Prep at LC. The young man has a strong, accurate arm and great leadership presence but got picked clean for an int / TD by Albright last week after telegraphing a pass. He also made several really nice passes in the scrimmage. I think he just needs some seasoning and will be great.


Indications are that he has consistently through his career made bad decisions with the ball.  Someone on the coaching staff (Mickey?) needs to take him under his wing and make a real QB out of him.  It would be a criminal waste of talent to just treat him like everyone else and take the "let's see what he's got" approach.  This one apparently requires - and deserves - some special nurturing.
Pard94

carney2 wrote:
Pard4Life wrote:
We are averaging 7812 fans through four games. Our last game had only 6600 (fair weather fans!) Add 2000 to the total (comparable to last two years) and we'd be averaging 8300 through four. I'll assume 12000 will show combined, so our season total will likely be 7200 per game. Not enough to convince the committee.


One more time - and I hope in English - you do not need to "convince the committee."  It's all about the money.  Show them the money!  You make a bid and guarantee the NCAA the dollar amount of your bid.  It doesn't matter if only the parents of the players have showed up all year.  It doesn't matter if no one shows up at the game.  The only thing that matters is the size of the check.  I think those SOBs would stage the games at empty high school fields if the checks were big enough.


I think the implication might be a large crowd could offset some of money required to show to the committee. In other words a $50K check is more palatable if you think you might get $35K back from the door.
Pard94

Re: QB of the future...

carney2 wrote:
Newleopardfan wrote:
I think you can see Shoop play and judge for yourself, this Sunday, 2:00, JV game vs. US Military Prep at LC. The young man has a strong, accurate arm and great leadership presence but got picked clean for an int / TD by Albright last week after telegraphing a pass. He also made several really nice passes in the scrimmage. I think he just needs some seasoning and will be great.


Indications are that he has consistently through his career made bad decisions with the ball.  Someone on the coaching staff (Mickey?) needs to take him under his wing and make a real QB out of him.  It would be a criminal waste of talent to just treat him like everyone else and take the "let's see what he's got" approach.  This one apparently requires - and deserves - some special nurturing.


Where did you get that from? You're not coming to that conclusion based on the TD against Albright, right?
carney2

Pard94 wrote:
Alright alright...the Football Gods are getting pissed...I can feel it. All talk of playoffs need to cease and desist right now. Carney, do you have an extra chicken claw I can wear around my neck for the next couple of days? We need to appease the Gods.


But there is no Curse.  There are no football gods.  I heard that officially from an old - but he says not so old - Lafayette offensive lineman.
carney2

Re: QB of the future...

Pard94 wrote:
carney2 wrote:
Newleopardfan wrote:
I think you can see Shoop play and judge for yourself, this Sunday, 2:00, JV game vs. US Military Prep at LC. The young man has a strong, accurate arm and great leadership presence but got picked clean for an int / TD by Albright last week after telegraphing a pass. He also made several really nice passes in the scrimmage. I think he just needs some seasoning and will be great.


Indications are that he has consistently through his career made bad decisions with the ball.  Someone on the coaching staff (Mickey?) needs to take him under his wing and make a real QB out of him.  It would be a criminal waste of talent to just treat him like everyone else and take the "let's see what he's got" approach.  This one apparently requires - and deserves - some special nurturing.


Where did you get that from? You're not coming to that conclusion based on the TD against Albright, right?


Information is that he was prone to throw interceptions in high school and has shown some of that in his few months on College Hill.
Pard94

carney2 wrote:
Pard94 wrote:
Alright alright...the Football Gods are getting pissed...I can feel it. All talk of playoffs need to cease and desist right now. Carney, do you have an extra chicken claw I can wear around my neck for the next couple of days? We need to appease the Gods.


But there is no Curse.  There are no football gods.  I heard that officially from an old - but he says not so old - Lafayette offensive lineman.


No there is no Curse...in case you missed it, we swept the Ivies this year. It's one thing to believe in a curse it's another not to mess with the team mojo. I know it may not seem so on the surface...but there's a huge difference. Trust me...and pass the chicken claw.
carney2

The line is

Lafayette by 28 1/2.

No way.

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