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Lafalum

Byerly Addresses the "study" in web presentation

In a live video which looked like a commercial for the new plan to increase the size of the school, the last last few  minutes were devoted to the study. I suspect given the number of questions she had to spend the time on it. Point one, she said we are staying in division one and the Patriot League. Point two she admitted she had no experience with Division one athletics and athletic scholarships. Point three, like any other activity at the school she wanted to use a consultant to evaluate how we are using our assets and scholarships and how to use them more effectively.

I am not sure she realizes that major surgery is needed administratively. On the other hand it could be cover for what she may suspect needs to be done, but she needs confirmation. My question is  the make up of the committee may preclude revealing the solution needed. My hope is she meets directly with the consultant alone.

The two alumni reps I have heard are Cindy Linville and Fran Mustaro. We did not learn who the others are. A final report is due April 15.
ed65

Alison put to rest the DIII nonsense in her address last night.  She said "The Patriot League is where we want to be."  I hope the cynics on the Board will finally stop talking about DIII.  The school would be crazy to take that giant step backward.  D-I is one of the things that distinguishes us from the horde of "liberal arts" schools in PA and the Northeast.  Other than the PL and Ivies, name another one.
LC Fan

As Lafalum notes, last night's event was an infomercial for the campaign and for year end giving. There was zero meat. All of the answers to the layup questions have been heard a thousand times. Athletics was an after thought. It shouldn't be. We don't need a study to know that a meat cleaver is needed. We don't need a study to hold coaches accountable. We don't need a study to know that the administration has failed in athletics. And, we don't need a study to know that Lafayette sports fans are sick and tired of losing.
ed65

LC Fan wrote:
As Lafalum notes, last night's event was an infomercial for the campaign and for year end giving. There was zero meat. All of the answers to the layup questions have been heard a thousand times. Athletics was an after thought. It shouldn't be. We don't need a study to know that a meat cleaver is needed. We don't need a study to hold coaches accountable. We don't need a study to know that the administration has failed in athletics. And, we don't need a study to know that Lafayette sports fans are sick and tired of losing.


Well said LC Fan.  We know you are 100% right - now we hopefully will have a study that proves it.
LeopardBall10

Does the April 15th completion date bother anyone else? I understand these types of things take time to do well, and I am sure our consultant posters can give more detail, but that timing really puts fall sports in a bad spot. Any changes as directed by the study would occur in the summer of 2017, just a few months before camp.
Lafalum

LeopardBall10 wrote:
Does the April 15th completion date bother anyone else? I understand these types of things take time to do well, and I am sure our consultant posters can give more detail, but that timing really puts fall sports in a bad spot. Any changes as directed by the study would occur in the summer of 2017, just a few months before camp.


Any date would do the same thing for winter sports, spring sports etc. The purpose of the study is to improve our competitive position...a good thing...if followed through on.
leopard88

Since this is the "Whatever Else" part of the forum and I also have not had a chance to watch the video . . .

. . . what did she have to say, if anything, about the other big topics of the day (i.e., expansion of the student body, the new buildings on McCartney Street, the elevator)?
Andy

https://news.lafayette.edu/2017/0...ter&utm_medium=social%20media


Bogus Megapardus

Another option might have been to choose an aesthetically pleasant design instead - one that would blend with existing college buildings and the surrounding neighborhood.

But I suppose that's asking too much theses days.

To me, they look like those bad ski resort time-share condos that nobody wants to buy. Does anybody realize how silly and dated those structures will look in fifteen years? Seriously - do you remember when people thought the New Jersey McMansion was an inspired design?

If they keep this up, College Hill will look like Downtown Disney World.
pardfan

Bogus Megapardus wrote:
Another option might have been to choose an aesthetically pleasant design instead - one that would blend with existing college buildings and the surrounding neighborhood.

But I suppose that's asking too much theses days.

To me, they look like those bad ski resort time-share condos that nobody wants to buy. Does anybody realize how silly and dated those structures will look in fifteen years? Seriously - do you remember when people thought the New Jersey McMansion was an inspired design?

If they keep this up, College Hill will look like Downtown Disney World.


This administration seems to have a "itchy trigger finger" when it comes to spending money.  Aesthetics?  Blending?  Huh.
Bogus Megapardus

It can be done properly, folks . . .  

Harvard Square, Cambridge:



Palmer Square, Princeton:

Bogus Megapardus

Also you can see in those designs the concessions to the police and fire lobby - rounded street corners, deep curb cuts and pavement wide enough to fit a six-lane interstate highway. Those buildings will contain zero wood products or other combustible materials and will not catch fire. They do not need huge streets that justify the huge emergency vehicles their department wants the city to buy.

Please resist the temptation! Just stop it! Keep the streets narrow, the corners square and the facades varied. Consider making all streets one-way, including Cattell and McCartney. Keep everything on a human, pedestrian scale. At least try to make it fun and interesting, which that design most decidedly is not.

Also, instead of the obsession with "signage" everywhere, do what municipalities all over Quebec do - fresh flowers hanging from all the lamp posts. It adds a touch that can't be duplicated with synthetics.
pardfan

Bogus Megapardus wrote:
Also you can see in those designs the concessions to the police and fire lobby - rounded street corners, deep curb cuts and pavement wide enough to fit a six-lane interstate highway. Those buildings will contain zero wood products or other combustible materials and will not catch fire. They do not need huge streets that justify the huge emergency vehicles their department wants the city to buy.

Please resist the temptation! Just stop it! Keep the streets narrow, the corners square and the facades varied. Consider making all streets one-way, including Cattell and McCartney. Keep everything on a human, pedestrian scale. At least try to make it fun and interesting, which that design most decidedly is not.

Also, instead of the obsession with "signage" everywhere, do what municipalities all over Quebec do - fresh flowers hanging from all the lamp posts. It adds a touch that can't be duplicated with synthetics.


Hopefully, we're not doing all this "on the cheap" so we have resources to do  the important stuff like the elevator.  Use that 2-4 mln that we seem willing to devote to the elevator and do the buildings right.
leopard88

Bogus Megapardus wrote:
Also you can see in those designs the concessions to the police and fire lobby - rounded street corners, deep curb cuts and pavement wide enough to fit a six-lane interstate highway. Those buildings will contain zero wood products or other combustible materials and will not catch fire. They do not need huge streets that justify the huge emergency vehicles their department wants the city to buy.

Please resist the temptation! Just stop it! Keep the streets narrow, the corners square and the facades varied. Consider making all streets one-way, including Cattell and McCartney. Keep everything on a human, pedestrian scale. At least try to make it fun and interesting, which that design most decidedly is not.

Also, instead of the obsession with "signage" everywhere, do what municipalities all over Quebec do - fresh flowers hanging from all the lamp posts. It adds a touch that can't be duplicated with synthetics.


I generally agree with all of your points except this one.  Turning Cattell and McCartney Streets into one way streets would put thru traffic onto McCartney, which I believe presents two problems --

1.  Traffic volume on McCartney would increase significantly, which would reduce the human scale and make it more dangerous for pedestrians.

2.  More traffic would be added to the already difficult intersection of McCartney, College Avenue and the lower end of South College Drive.
Andy

Bogie, so true, pretty funny!

"To me, they look like those bad ski resort time-share condos that nobody wants to buy."



Spardicus80

Have to agree with Bogie on this one.  This reminds me of public housing that you would find in Nuremberg, Germany - perfectly utilitarian and sterile, but nondescript and boring.  It simply has no character, lacks charm, and looks totally uninviting.  Where, for example, is the street lighting?  What about outdoor public seating and other spaces? You want to invite public activity and promote discourse and commerce. Finally, I don't see a tree anywhere.  Trees provide color and shade, and create a feel of openness and freshness.

The idea is to attract the best students.  Imagine a prospective student and his/her parents seeing this concept for the first time.  Not a very favorable first impression.  I think we can do much better.

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