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Ransom Stoddard

Coach Nolan retires

http://www.goleopards.com/sports/w-baskbl/spec-rel/032615aaa.html
NewXbo

Carolyn Femovitch is also retiring at the end of the year.
The Maroon

Good luck to her. It will be interesting to see who they bring in. I don't know enough to know if there are any top notch assistant coaches in the PL.
bethlehempard

Is this good or bad? I always liked Nolan, whom I knew of from her college days. She was a great tennis player among other things.
She stepped into a terrible situation. 58-93 which makes her about 12-18 annually. That is not a lot different than MBB over the last 15 years.

http://www.lehighvalleylive.com/l...tball_co.html#incart_river_mobile
Kpard

Best of luck. The program is in better shape now than when she came to LC.
Lafalum

Wish her the best. She had great enthusiasm walking into a really bad situation. She had a terrific career and deserves our thanks and respect.
ed65

Lafalum wrote:
Wish her the best. She had great enthusiasm walking into a really bad situation. She had a terrific career and deserves our thanks and respect.


Amen: I always liked her and her enthusiasm.
SixtyEighter

Her recruits now have the option to leave . Nia Holland was named 5th team all southeast PA today in the Inquirer. Re: Diane Nolan : Did she retire voluntarily or was she given an offer from McCutcheon she couldn't refuse?
NewXbo

bethlehempard wrote:
Is this good or bad? I always liked Nolan, whom I knew of from her college days. She was a great tennis player among other things.
She stepped into a terrible situation. 58-93 which makes her about 12-18 annually. That is not a lot different than MBB over the last 15 years.

http://www.lehighvalleylive.com/l...tball_co.html#incart_river_mobile




Not questioning your numbers but I think a comparison of Patriot League games is a better indicator of a coach's success. For comparison:

She who shall not be named: 8 seasons, 26 wins, 86 losses, 23% W/L%

Diane Nolan: 6 seasons, 24 wins, 54 losses, 31% W/L%

Fran O'Hanlon: last 8 seasons, 56 wins, 69 losses, 45% W/L%
Bogus Megapardus

Theresa (Shank) Grentz?  I could see it.
NewXbo

Bogus Megapardus wrote:
Theresa (Shank) Grentz?  I could see it.



For what its worth, there was some talk that she was not coming back next year.  The players seemed to like her but they always like the assistants more than the head coach.  

There was also a player who threatened to quit because of not getting playing time.  She did finish the season.
NewXbo

NewXbo wrote:
Carolyn Femovitch is also retiring at the end of the year.


Rumor on Bucknell board: Lafayette grad Tom Odjakjian would be good candidate for PL Commissioner. He certainly would be good at promoting the PL.
Lafalum

NewXbo wrote:
NewXbo wrote:
Carolyn Femovitch is also retiring at the end of the year.


Rumor on Bucknell board: Lafayette grad Tom Odjakjian would be good candidate for PL Commissioner. He certainly would be good at promoting the PL.


He would be an outstanding candidate
bethlehempard

For coach one local name comes to mind and it's purely speculative:
Janet Malouf, an assistant at Lafayette for four years, played for Grentz at Rutgers and is 312-265 in 21 years at Kutztown.
A D1 candidate would look better. This has to be one of the toughest D1 jobs despite all we have to offer.
carney2

bethlehempard wrote:
For coach one local name comes to mind and it's purely speculative:
Janet Malouf, an assistant at Lafayette for four years, played for Grentz at Rutgers and is 312-265 in 21 years at Kutztown.
A D1 candidate would look better. This has to be one of the toughest D1 jobs despite all we have to offer.


I'm too lazy to nail it down, but I guesstimate Malouf to be in her 50s and perhaps her mid-fifties.  That would put her right in Bruce's wheelhouse based on other job for life hires he's made.  It's time for our overpaid AD to step up and make the right call for the program and for his employer.  He needs to hire someone who is young, energetic, and charismatic who can recruit - someone who has a stated goal to someday coach in the Final Four.  That means that she/he will view Lafayette as a stepping stone.  Good for her/him.  Good for us.

You should recall that Cousin Brucie ignored former Final Four MVP, All-American, Women's NBA player, and Pat Summit protege, Michelle Marciniak, when he hired Nolan.  Marciniak even went public to state that she wanted the job.  C'mon, Bruce, pull your head out of your butt and do the right thing for a change.
carney2

SixtyEighter wrote:
Re: Diane Nolan : Did she retire voluntarily or was she given an offer from McCutcheon she couldn't refuse?


This is Lafayette.  What are you smoking?
bethlehempard

I definitely recall the Marciniak moment. I knew of Nolan so though MM was an intriguing candidate I wasn't too concerned but Marciniak would have brought instant interest. That looks like a missed opportunity now.
I also think about Matthew Ridgway. I know, I digress, but when he took over UN troops in Korea he insisted on field commanders no more than 35 to 40. Energetic, innovative and inspiring.
We could go younger than that; it isn't war after all. The philosophy though makes sense.
Malouf graduated in 1989 so she is probably 48-50. Yes, our sweet spot. Her best years were awhile ago.
Another name that may pop up is Liz Feeley: played at Lehigh, coached at Colgate, Princeton and Smith but has been out of coaching for a bit.
There are lots of good female coaches and politically I don't think we would bring in a guy. John Leone?
NewXbo

carney2 wrote:
bethlehempard wrote:
For coach one local name comes to mind and it's purely speculative:
Janet Malouf, an assistant at Lafayette for four years, played for Grentz at Rutgers and is 312-265 in 21 years at Kutztown.
A D1 candidate would look better. This has to be one of the toughest D1 jobs despite all we have to offer.


I'm too lazy to nail it down, but I guesstimate Malouf to be in her 50s and perhaps her mid-fifties.  That would put her right in Bruce's wheelhouse based on other job for life hires he's made.  It's time for our overpaid AD to step up and make the right call for the program and for his employer.  He needs to hire someone who is young, energetic, and charismatic who can recruit - someone who has a stated goal to someday coach in the Final Four.  That means that she/he will view Lafayette as a stepping stone.  Good for her/him.  Good for us.

You should recall that Cousin Brucie ignored former Final Four MVP, All-American, Women's NBA player, and Pat Summit protege, Michelle Marciniak, when he hired Nolan.  Marciniak even went public to state that she wanted the job.  C'mon, Bruce, pull your head out of your butt and do the right thing for a change.


It's a rare occasion but I think Carney has it right. Young, ambitious, wants to coach at a higher level, may only be here six years.  We need better recruiting, better scheme, player development. Marciniak would have been a good choice but LC was unwilling to take a chance. She's moved on, although still local, probably not interested anymore or she would be coaching somewhere. I think Leone's out, remember he was an unpaid assistant to she who shall not be named. Big difference in recruiting in PL than PSAC rules Malouf out.
The Maroon

Marciniak was a candidate when Fisher retired - I don't recall her being considered or hearing anything about her when Tammy moved on.  

And what has she done to make a case that we missed the boat by passing on her? Like her commitment to Notre Dame - this was a whim.

I hope we don't lose any commits - we can't afford to have the program get set back any further.
bethlehempard

http://articles.mcall.com/keyword/pat-fisher
The Maroon

bethlehempard wrote:
http://articles.mcall.com/keyword/pat-fisher


So she sent in a resume 14 years ago (again - not when Nolan was considered) , was never contacted and whose coaching career was as a five-year assistant at South Carolina...There was also the issue that she wanted to continue to play in the WNBA AND hold down the job...She was a bad candidate - she wasn't contacted.

Moving on....
bison137

SixtyEighter wrote:
Her recruits now have the option to leave . Nia Holland was named 5th team all southeast PA today in the Inquirer.



Only when/if Lafayette gives them a release.   I'd be surprised if they do that before they hire a new coach.
carney2

bison137 wrote:
SixtyEighter wrote:
Her recruits now have the option to leave . Nia Holland was named 5th team all southeast PA today in the Inquirer.



Only when/if Lafayette gives them a release.   I'd be surprised if they do that before they hire a new coach.


I'd be more worried about the kids entering in the fall of 2016.  We stand a chance of falling behind.
SixtyEighter

We were behind at the starting gate.
The Maroon

carney2 wrote:
bison137 wrote:
SixtyEighter wrote:
Her recruits now have the option to leave . Nia Holland was named 5th team all southeast PA today in the Inquirer.



Only when/if Lafayette gives them a release.   I'd be surprised if they do that before they hire a new coach.


I'd be more worried about the kids entering in the fall of 2016.  We stand a chance of falling behind.


We'd need someone with a bead on a couple kids. I would think an Ivy or PL assistant would be the best way to go but I won't pretend to know the whole landscape.
NewXbo

The Maroon wrote:
carney2 wrote:
bison137 wrote:
SixtyEighter wrote:
Her recruits now have the option to leave . Nia Holland was named 5th team all southeast PA today in the Inquirer.



Only when/if Lafayette gives them a release.   I'd be surprised if they do that before they hire a new coach.


I'd be more worried about the kids entering in the fall of 2016.  We stand a chance of falling behind.


We'd need someone with a bead on a couple kids. I would think an Ivy or PL assistant would be the best way to go but I won't pretend to know the whole landscape.



You have created a very narrow field. Only 2 teams had winning records: Princeton (14-0 league, 31-1 overall) and Penn (11-3 league, 21-9 overall).

Princeton's recruiting coordinator is Megan Griffith she's been there 4 years so has been involved in recruiting this years team. That doesn't mean she made the final decisions but certainly had them on her list.

Penn's Chris Day was at LaSalle and was head coach at Cabrini.
BillS

Allison Guth Northwestern.
NewXbo

BillS wrote:
Allison Guth Northwestern.


Well she is a Chicago girl and may be inline for the HC at NW as McKeown may only coach a few more years. Although he has almost 600 wins he has only been a.500 coach at NW. Guth has recruited well at a strong academic college and could probably do well in the PL. So, if we wanted her, would she accept or wait for the NW job?
Marooner

Guth replaced Nolan at Yale way back when... if that means anything.
adcs2

Carlene Mitchell, UCSB
carney2

I think Tammy's still available.

I miss the weave.
BillS

adcs2 wrote:
Carlene Mitchell, UCSB
I guess someone who destroyed a great  basketball progam and  just got fired would be a great choice Rolling Eyes yeah right !
NewXbo

adcs2 wrote:
Carlene Mitchell, UCSB


Its ironic she was fired by UCSB's  AD whose name is McCutcheon.
NewXbo

AD McCutcheon and Asst AD McKittrick were spotted in Tampa over the weekend conducting interviews.
carney2

NewXbo wrote:
AD McCutcheon and Asst AD McKittrick were spotted in Tampa over the weekend conducting interviews.


Geno?
NewXbo

carney2 wrote:
NewXbo wrote:
AD McCutcheon and Asst AD McKittrick were spotted in Tampa over the weekend conducting interviews.


Geno?


Yeah, the guy that has the pizza shop in Nazareth.
Lafalum

NewXbo wrote:
carney2 wrote:
NewXbo wrote:
AD McCutcheon and Asst AD McKittrick were spotted in Tampa over the weekend conducting interviews.


Geno?


Yeah, the guy that has the pizza shop in Nazareth.


So does this indicate Nolan's retirement was unplanned??
NewXbo

Lafalum wrote:
NewXbo wrote:
carney2 wrote:
NewXbo wrote:
AD McCutcheon and Asst AD McKittrick were spotted in Tampa over the weekend conducting interviews.


Geno?


Yeah, the guy that has the pizza shop in Nazareth.


So does this indicate Nolan's retirement was unplanned??


Yes. Quite a few complaints to the AD by players and coach. This would have been second top assistant not happy with the way things were being done.

Lets hope we get someone young who can recruit good players, not projects.  (Take a look at Bucknell's incoming class) I don't know if the AD has the authority to make a decision on his own. Last hire was by committee. Good source says a number of committee members did not favor Nolan.
Lafalum

NewXbo wrote:
Lafalum wrote:
NewXbo wrote:
carney2 wrote:
NewXbo wrote:
AD McCutcheon and Asst AD McKittrick were spotted in Tampa over the weekend conducting interviews.


Geno?


Yeah, the guy that has the pizza shop in Nazareth.


So does this indicate Nolan's retirement was unplanned??


Yes. Quite a few complaints to the AD by players and coach. This would have been second top assistant not happy with the way things were being done.

Lets hope we get someone young who can recruit good players, not projects.  (Take a look at Bucknell's incoming class) I don't know if the AD has the authority to make a decision on his own. Last hire was by committee. Good source says a number of committee members did not favor Nolan.


Those committees are pre wired by the AD. Trust me.
NewXbo

Lafalum wrote:
NewXbo wrote:
Lafalum wrote:
NewXbo wrote:
carney2 wrote:
NewXbo wrote:
AD McCutcheon and Asst AD McKittrick were spotted in Tampa over the weekend conducting interviews.


Geno?


Yeah, the guy that has the pizza shop in Nazareth.


So does this indicate Nolan's retirement was unplanned??


Yes. Quite a few complaints to the AD by players and coach. This would have been second top assistant not happy with the way things were being done.

Lets hope we get someone young who can recruit good players, not projects.  (Take a look at Bucknell's incoming class) I don't know if the AD has the authority to make a decision on his own. Last hire was by committee. Good source says a number of committee members did not favor Nolan.


Those committees are pre wired by the AD. Trust me.


Well, I think he should make the decision on his own, its his department and he should be responsible for it. If he is making the decision why hide behind a committee. OWN IT.
rollpards12

Theresa Grentz would make perfect sense. She already has a handle on the current players, and certainly has relationships with the recruits. I imagine her name and experiences will draw interest from recruits. It makes perfect sense to promote this former Olympic coach to Head Coach!
rollpards12

[quote="NewXbo:47611"]AD McCutcheon and Asst AD McKittrick were spotted in Tampa over the weekend conducting interviews.[/quote]

Who has confirmation of their sighting in Tampa?
carney2

rollpards12 wrote:
Theresa Grentz would make perfect sense. She already has a handle on the current players, and certainly has relationships with the recruits. I imagine her name and experiences will draw interest from recruits. It makes perfect sense to promote this former Olympic coach to Head Coach!


This has already been discussed.  Apparently she was planning on leaving even before the Nolan announcement.  She is a Hall of Famer, has coached at the top levels and is something of a legend.  But she is 63 years old and you would have to question her motivation, drive and energy.  I never understood why she was here as an assistant.  Just assumed that she was doing a favor for an old coaching buddy, I guess.  Offering her the job is one thing, but her accepting it would be way beyond surprising.  I doubt if she needs the money, and finishing her career riding buses in the backwater Patriot League wouldn't make a lot of sense.

Back on the soap box and pointing out Bucknell's dramatic turnaround under Aaron Roussell.  Someone mentioned earlier in this thread that the Buckies have a great recruiting class coming through the door to keep the program on the move.  Roussell is in his 30s and is pretty obviously treating Lewisburg as temporary housing on his move up the coaching ladder.  No one up there is complaining.  He is the kind of coach that Lafayette needs:  young and a great recruiter.  Too many dinosaurs in Kirby already.  Let's break that mold.

And one more thing, where is it written that a women's college basketball coach has to be female?  Every Lafayette women's coach has been, but I hope that isn't part of the job description.  I point to Geno Auriemma and the aforementioned Aaron Roussell as arguments that Cousin Brucie needs to keep an open mind and not be afraid of breaking this mold too.
bison137

[quote="carney2:47632"]
rollpards12 wrote:

Back on the soap box and pointing out Bucknell's dramatic turnaround under Aaron Roussell.  Someone mentioned earlier in this thread that the Buckies have a great recruiting class coming through the door to keep the program on the move.  Roussell is in his 30s and is pretty obviously treating Lewisburg as temporary housing on his move up the coaching ladder.  No one up there is complaining.



If Roussell is successful, Bucknell likely won't be his last stop - but I don't think he is in any hurry to leave.    He put in eight full years at his prior job at the University of Chicago, even though he could have moved on earlier.

As for the incoming recruiting class, it is way too early to call it great.   They are adding a good PG and a versatile wing, plus Jen Dumiak's sister, who might help off the bench.   But for it to be a great recruiting class, at least one of the two bigs has to be successful.   One is 6-3 and missed a full year with an ACL tear, while the other is 6-2 but mostly a post player.   Neither is tall enough to just shoot over defenders, so it will depend on whether they have good enough post moves and/or a good outside shot to create some offense.
Kpard

Any rumors or activity here? Question
NewXbo

Kpard wrote:
Any rumors or activity here? Question


I can tell you that when a decision is made, maroon smoke will be emitted from the athletic directors window. In the meantime, here is the tentative schedule for next year. (As always, subject to change)

11/13 @ Delaware
11/20 Duquesne
11/22 @ Hartford
11/24 @ Fordham
11/29 St Peters
12/2 @ Penn
12/4 St Francis, NY
12/6 NJIT
12/22 Colgate
12/28 @ Virginia Tournament
12/29 @ Virginia Tournament
1/2 @ Loyola
1/6 Army
1/9 Boston U
1/13 @ Holy Cross
1/16 Navy
1/20 @ American
1/23 @ Lehigh
1/27 Bucknell
1/30 Loyola
2/3 @ Army
2/6 @ Boston U
2/10 Holy Cross
2/13 @ Navy
2/17 American
2/20 Lehigh
2/24 @ Bucknell
2/27 @ Colgate
3/2 PL 1st round
3/4 PL Quarters
3/8 PL Semis
3/12 PL Finals

If we are not in the Virginia tournament, I suspect the Colgate game will be moved to 12/30 when the rest of the league begins.
carney2

Does anyone have any ideas as to how this job is viewed by the basketball community?  Good job; lots of applicants?  Bad job; stay away from it?
NewXbo

carney2 wrote:
Does anyone have any ideas as to how this job is viewed by the basketball community?  Good job; lots of applicants?  Bad job; stay away from it?



I bet there will be over eighty. Every assistant, usually 2 or 3 per team has the goal of being a head coach. D2 and D3 head coaches want to move up.
They all think they have what it takes. Its only after they get the job that reality sets in.
SixtyEighter

It's not a good job or a bad job . It is what the coach makes of it.when negotiating.  A sharp coach applying for the job will demand concessions regarding admissions and other vital areas necessary for success including budget.Anyone who doesn't do that is doomed from the start.That's one reason I didn't like Nolan . She failed to have the spurt from the concessions . She merely leveled off at mediocrity.In other sports Russo , Tavani , O'Hanlon  and others had good results after a couple of years due to the initial support that was given to rebuild.They  started to suffer later when the support was withdrawn and their budgets whittled down.Of course we are also dependent on the accuity of the selectors as well.I remember a member of the search committee telling me how Russo knocked the socks off the committee during the interview process. We have to wonder if our cuurrent group would recognize an outstanding candidate if they saw one. After all look at the coaching turnover and the record of the softball program.I can't believe no one has applied who can recruit and field a decent team and to stay long enough to recruit some depth.Our baseball coach has proven he is a competent coach but the program seems to have fallen on hard times which I would attribute to lack of institutional support.After the initial honeymoon period it's a real battle for the coaches to retain the support from the college .
Bogus Megapardus

SixtyEighter - would it be fair to say that, in the "information age," any candidate apply for a PL job would know exactly what they're getting into?

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