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Bogus Megapardus

Colgate

Last home game and Senior Day for the enigmatic Pards.  Game is at Fisher at 4:30 PM and will be on All-Access.

Gate is 7-4, 2-2 PL with wins over HC and Navy and losses to Army and the Brownie Bunch.  2012 Tewaaraton Award winner Peter Baum arguably is the best lacrosse player ever to play in the Patriot League.  It's worth attending this game just to watch Baum play - he's that good.  Baum has 30 goals on the season thus far and a .630 SOG %age.  

Gate also has Ryan Walsh, a 6-4, 238 lb. sophomore Attack who has 28 goals and a .632 SOG %age.  Pards have nothing even closely comparable; in fact, he's as big or bigger than our defenders and he's much quicker.  By contrast, our biggest, most athletic Attack is Brian Bock at 5-10, 170 lbs.  Bock has 20 goals and a .565 SOG %age on the season.

This game will test the Pards' defense to the max.  If Gate gets ahead by a few goals early, it could be a very long afternoon.
Bogus Megapardus

Lacrosse Senior CLASS Award - three of the ten candidates are from the Patriot League (four if you count Loyola).

Vote here:

http://www.seniorclassaward.com/vote/DI_lacrosse_2013/

Army's Brendan Buckley currently leads the voting, followed by Bucknell's Mike Huffner and Colgate's Peter Baum.
The Maroon

I always enjoy the discussions on this board.
Here's my question and you gentlemen seem more than qualified to answer it. It has to do with the state of the program.
Is the problem with our program (let's face it, Lafayette lacrosse has ranged from awful to mediocre for the last 20 years) an inability to land a couple of studs every couple of years? Or are we getting beat on the recruiting trail from top to bottom? More specifically - if we have a Peter Baum and one or two other special players are we a 7-4 team?
Bogus Megapardus

The Maroon wrote:
Here's my question and you gentlemen seem more than qualified to answer it.


Do you want the long-winded answer, or the extra-long-winded answer?  I'm happy to provide my two Bitcoins in either case.  I am a part of a four-generation collegiate lacrosse family, so I'm rather biased.  But I'm sure that PardsLax and others as well can expound upon how lacrosse is, in a word, just "different" than any other sport.
PardsLax

The Maroon wrote:
If we have a Peter Baum and one or two other special players are we a 7-4 team?


Possibly.  This isn't a perfect comparison because of all the variables involved but the 2010 team had 3-4 key (not all "special" in the way Baum is) players, each performing an important role.  Tom Perini was a great catch-and-shoot guy.  Not very mobile but he sure could rip a shot if got the ball.  Stefan Bauer was a terrific feeder and had great field awareness.  He had 30 assists that year compared to our assist leaders with 12 this year.  Matt Merski was a crafty, extremely quick attackman who could score around the cage.  And the big difference was Steve Serling, a middie who was an excellent dodger, could shoot accurately on the run, and who also was willing to find the open man.  The other guys on the 2010 were solid role players.  

Right now, we have a very solid attack unit, each guy capable of 3+ goals per game.  Brian Bock is probably most similar to Perini, Round and Wanke both Merski-esque in their playing styles.  It doesn't seem like we need an upgrade at that position.  Maybe a gifted assist guy just to provide some diversity in the offense.

What we don't have are middies who can dodge effectively, draw the slide, and dish the ball quickly.  Westby can probably get there in a year or two but if we were able to recruit or develop one or two excellent middies, this team could be pretty competitive.  

I'm still not sure what to think about our defense this year.  Hyatt has played very well in goal but there have been a surprising number of defensive breakdowns and mistakes but at the same time some very good individual defensive efforts at times.  

We really need to fix the clearing/turnover problem (72.7% is really bad) as failed clears have repeatedly resulted in fast break opportunities for opponents.  On the flip side, our opponents are clearing at a 87.4% rate which is exceptionally good suggesting an ineffective ride strategy.  

With the scholarships and aggressive recruiting by the new staff, Lafayette could attract some studs who might not have considered the school in years past.  The perennial big hurdle is the win-loss percentage and the reputation as one of the worst teams in Division I lacrosse.  It's a chicken-and-egg problem:  you need to win more to attract great players but you need great players to win more.
The Maroon

Bogus Megapardus wrote:
The Maroon wrote:
Here's my question and you gentlemen seem more than qualified to answer it.


Do you want the long-winded answer, or the extra-long-winded answer?  I'm happy to provide my two Bitcoins in either case.  I am a part of a four-generation collegiate lacrosse family, so I'm rather biased.  But I'm sure that PardsLax and others as well can expound upon how lacrosse is, in a word, just "different" than any other sport.


LOL. Four generations! Wow!

I've seen some lacrosse over time - but to be honest I was drawn more to the straightforwardness of the women's game. Just seemed easier to digest (plus we had some great teams in my day). One the women's side it seemed like one or two special players could improve a team by about six wins - but that was before the game evolved and became more mainstream in high school.

The men's game is now drawing my attention - unfortunately it's a horrible sport on TV so I have to learn slowly. I'm learning a lot on this board.

I guess I look at it like this..Suppose there's a pro lax team and you're GM of an expansion team, what do you look for first? What's the hardest position to recruit?

I guess I'm trying to see how far away we are from actually being a top four team in this league. PardsLax gave a great answer - but you and Seen could certainly weigh in.
Bogus Megapardus

Pards playing surprisingly well, leading 5-3 late in the 2nd quarter.  Gate looks so "normal" on offense but for the life of me, I still can't decipher what we're doing on offense.

I know it's not just me because our EMO runs strictly by the book.
Bogus Megapardus

5-4 Pards at the half.  

I don't think Rau has won a single faceoff all afternoon.  We're still turning the ball over, and we still can't clear.  Mike Gallione (I hate to single out one guy) is still sloppy with the ball.

Pard defense is playing very aggressively which is causing Gate to get frustrated and to commit penalties.

If Jake Hyatt isn't the season MVP, I don't know who is.

Pard offense seems to be adopting what I'm calling the "long thin line" formation and then peeling guys off in an unbalanced fashion and trying to create mismatches.

Pards still taking too many wind-up shots from 15+ yards out.
Bogus Megapardus

12=10 Colgate with 8 mins to go.  Rau starting to win FOs but Gate letting Baum run with it.

Impressed with Pard effort - we're not that far away, seriously.
PardsLax

Yeah, the end of the first quarter and the entire second quarter was about as good as the team has looked all year, at least the games I've seen.  There was good off ball movement on offense, crisp passing (and catching!), effective runs on offense and I thought the defense was well organized.  The defensive middies I thought played particularly well during that time.  We lost our internet feed during half time so i didn't see what happened at the beginning of the third quarter.  But being up by a goal at the half over a team like Colgate is encouraging.  Just need to put it all together over the course of an entire game.  The game was closer than the final score - Colgate scored on a ridiculous 50 yard shot by a long pole when we were in a 10 man ride and they got a garbage goal at the end when our goalie was out of the cage so we could double the ball in the last few minutes.  On to Lehigh.
Bogus Megapardus

Colgate came out in the second half, fed the ball to Baum and Walsh, and let them do what they do.  In the first several minutes of the third quarter, they just pummeled us.

Colgate ran a very predictable offense; they set up their offense just as if it came out of a textbook.  The Pards knew exactly what was coming (well, I did at least) but they simply couldn't do anything about it.  We were just plain outmuscled.

Rogalski called a timeout, after which Evans and Ahsler started to play out of their minds on defense and we slowed the carnage.  At about the same time, Rau began to win some faceoffs and things began to look better.  Rau scored one on a FOGO break as well - a very nice play.  Then we did a 10 man ride and an empty net (as PardsLax pointed out) and Gate got a gimme from 50 yards out.  They got another empty net goal near the end of the game.  

Colgate is a very good team with some seasoned talent.  But the Pards were not over-matched and I was very encouraged by what I saw in this game.  Still way too many turnovers, but we caused a few as well.  We missed a couple of point-blank shots.  We're not the slo-mo, unconfident team we were the past few seasons; we're looking for opportunities and we're taking them.  We're creating mismatches and we're much more aggressive on defense.

Rogalski mixed the line up a little, too, including starting Delbarton's Evan McQuiston in the midfield.  Jake Hyatt once again, was pure stud between the pipes.  Hyatt remains the MVP in my book.

I'm encouraged by everything I see and I think that Rogalski will have this team at .500 by next season.  We have Lehigh yet to play though, and I think these guys would like nothing better than to go out with a bang.

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