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OPPard

Cramsey, Loose, Wroblewski

That's the list.  Needs to start and end there.
Pards Rule

Voted for other - Heff
Franks Tanks

I think any of the 3 would be a major improvement, but I have to go with Cramsey.  Unless our search group/committee is completely blind I think he will get very serious consideration.

Tremendous experience running one of the best offenses in FCS for years, and will bring a great deal of excitement locally.  All 3 though are really good options.
Andy

Cramsey has an amazing background, could he put up with an AI?

As a fan, I'd welcome Coach Loose.  Listening to those signing day interviews, he had me ready to put the pads on. IIRC, John recruited north Jersey and southern NY and I assume was responsible for getting kids like Blake, Romans, Schmidlein, Mills, Bono.  Seems a tireless recruiter with an eye for playmakers.  Believe he recruited Davidson for Army.
edge29

Part of me thinks Cramsey would be a great choice.  This is probably due to our lack of offense over the last handful of years.

However, the national exposure Lauren's First and Goal brings to LC can't be replaced.  Loose would be a great ambassador for the college.

I'm a big Hef and Cohen fan as well.  No inside knowledge here, but I have a feeling that this job will be highly sought after!!
Pards Rule

Now that Nevada fired their HC could Cramsey be in position for it? Wouldnt mind him or Loose, but my heart is with Heff. Cant we pay him 300K??
Pardsfriend

Poll

Voted for other Coach Chris Partridge. Played and coached at LC, outstanding recruiter.
Marooner

Re: Cramsey, Loose, Wroblewski

OPPard wrote:
That's the list.  Needs to start and end there.

If we're beginning a national search (which presumably involves some significant spending), it had better not "start and end" with three names that we can pull off the top of our heads. All good choices, but let's treat this like an opportunity for a fresh start and keep our options open.
98pard

Need a fresh face with local ties and innovative play calling.  If there isn't a huge push for Cramsey it is a head scratcher.
Andy

Re: Poll

Pardsfriend wrote:
Voted for other Coach Chris Partridge. Played and coached at LC, outstanding recruiter.


Chris was called "a rising superstar" in coaching by Harbaugh.  The $225k as HC here would be a pay raise, but not for long with his career trajectory. Since he has already joined that major college group of coaches and is on the fast track to some major dollars, would he want to give that up for full control but risky business?
Pardsfriend

Re: Poll

Andy wrote:
Pardsfriend wrote:
Voted for other Coach Chris Partridge. Played and coached at LC, outstanding recruiter.


Chris was called "a rising superstar" in coaching by Harbaugh.  The $225k as HC here would be a pay raise, but not for long with his career trajectory. Since he has already joined that major college group of coaches and is on the fast track to some major dollars, would he want to give that up for full control but risky business?


That would likely depend upon the package LC offered to him.  

There's one way to find out, recruit him and make an offer.
SixtyEighter

We need to be realistic. There are not many Bob Suraces in this world. It is extremely unlikely Partridge would move down to Lafayette from Michigan unless he wants to establish chops as an FCS HC as a credential for FBS.He already has an upwardly mobile position under a member of football royalty.It was a cruel blow to Lafayette when the incompetent nincompoops at Rutgers drove him away. If he was he at Rutgers we would have had a better shot. I previously suggested that we needed a Dave Cohen type who had Patriot League experience and also FBS experience with scholarship recruiting.He is not likely to return to the PL because he had an HC position before going to Wake- I forget where. He is the type of guy we need not the precise guy. A candidate unmentioned heretofore is Mike Rearden. He has CAA experience at Villanova and HC at St. Augustine Prep in South Jersey. His headmaster has just left to take a similar position at Malvern. Maybe Mike is ready to move back to Delaware in both scholarships and recruiting at that level.He is currently college.He is an outstanding prep coach.He was with great programs at Villanova and Delaware. I agree that Mike Faragalli is also a good thought but don't know if he would come back. He can't be too happy at Columbia. Even with Bagnoli it's a worse coaches' graveyard than anywhere else in America.He too has CAA experience.LC needs a clean sweep. I am not opposed to retaining any coach the new guy wants but do not think a current coordinator should be considered for HC because the culture needs a total fumigation after 7 consecutive losing seasons.Theresa Grentz said it and it is so true - "The culture is the hardest part - the players need to buy in that it's not OK to play hard and lose." Parenthetically  I would  recommend Frank for the LC Hall of Fame for saving a moribund program from the BOT and the Rothkopf and Kissiah cabal and winning the championships he did AND for winning 150.Andy Coen is still talking about the sting of losing that game.That was a landmark win even though we had a losing season the rest of that season. Last, we don't need an Ivy League assistant.Times have changed since Bill Russo came to our rescue in 1981 (even though he came from Wagner after being an Ivy assistant.)PL is PL and the Ivies are a separate entity because players find them rather than the other way around as with the PL.
RichH

Other. Loose best choice on that list. LC would need to at least match current salary tho
A D asst or a D1 HC seem best place to start. Young energetic and a recruiter. Adjustment for an asdt may take some time as he learns but worth it.
Some are mentioning older more experienced coaches. Not a path likely to yield a coach. PL rarely a destination for talented coaches.. Besies which LC not likely to offer enuf $$$.
Franks Tanks

RichH wrote:
Other. Loose best choice on that list. LC would need to at least match current salary tho
A D asst or a D1 HC seem best place to start. Young energetic and a recruiter. Adjustment for an asdt may take some time as he learns but worth it.
Some are mentioning older more experienced coaches. Not a path likely to yield a coach. PL rarely a destination for talented coaches.. Besies which LC not likely to offer enuf $$$.


It has come out that Frank is mostly likely making around 225k.  A position coach at a program like Michigan, where the HC makes 7 million, is probably making more than that, but that salary will be very attractive (I think) for guys like Loose and Cramsey.

I want young and energetic.  As much as I like some of the guys mentioned we don't need a 60 plus year old guy who has little to prove. We need someone who was sort of like Frank was 17 years ago, saying he will win no matter what, and attacking each day with energy.

Loose is a shade over 50, but extremely energetic and able to connect with kids.

Cramsey has a great mix of experience and youth.  Even though he is not a alum (he is local), he could be our Joe Moorhead.  He has that kind of offensive mind, and may have the highest ceiling of anyone, although more risky than Loose perhaps.
PardDad71

Franks Tanks wrote:
RichH wrote:
Other. Loose best choice on that list. LC would need to at least match current salary tho
A D asst or a D1 HC seem best place to start. Young energetic and a recruiter. Adjustment for an asdt may take some time as he learns but worth it.
Some are mentioning older more experienced coaches. Not a path likely to yield a coach. PL rarely a destination for talented coaches.. Besies which LC not likely to offer enuf $$$.


It has come out that Frank is mostly likely making around 225k.  A position coach at a program like Michigan, where the HC makes 7 million, is probably making more than that, but that salary will be very attractive (I think) for guys like Loose and Cramsey.

I want young and energetic.  As much as I like some of the guys mentioned we don't need a 60 plus year old guy who has little to prove. We need someone who was sort of like Frank was 17 years ago, saying he will win no matter what, and attacking each day with energy.

Loose is a shade over 50, but extremely energetic and able to connect with kids.

Cramsey has a great mix of experience and youth.  Even though he is not a alum (he is local), he could be our Joe Moorhead.  He has that kind of offensive mind, and may have the highest ceiling of anyone, although more risky than Loose perhaps.



I think Cramsey would be better....short term.   I think the risk is he would be here 3-5 years and then we would probably see him split.   I think he could easily go 5-6 next year, then really start to pile up the wins.   I think Loose is my second choice, and a good bet to be here 15 years.   I love the discipline and energy he would bring to the Hill
Bogus Megapardus

Pards Rule wrote:
Voted for other - Heff


Me too.
Jpao92

Voted "other" for Fein because the College's nationwide searches usually comprise the nation of College Hill.  Hoping I am dead wrong.
XLeopard

SixtyEighter wrote:
We need to be realistic. There are not many Bob Suraces in this world. It is extremely unlikely Partridge would move down to Lafayette from Michigan unless he wants to establish chops as an FCS HC as a credential for FBS.He already has an upwardly mobile position under a member of football royalty.It was a cruel blow to Lafayette when the incompetent nincompoops at Rutgers drove him away. If he was he at Rutgers we would have had a better shot. I previously suggested that we needed a Dave Cohen type who had Patriot League experience and also FBS experience with scholarship recruiting.He is not likely to return to the PL because he had an HC position before going to Wake- I forget where. He is the type of guy we need not the precise guy. A candidate unmentioned heretofore is Mike Rearden. He has CAA experience at Villanova and HC at St. Augustine Prep in South Jersey. His headmaster has just left to take a similar position at Malvern. Maybe Mike is ready to move back to Delaware in both scholarships and recruiting at that level.He is currently college.He is an outstanding prep coach.He was with great programs at Villanova and Delaware. I agree that Mike Faragalli is also a good thought but don't know if he would come back. He can't be too happy at Columbia. Even with Bagnoli it's a worse coaches' graveyard than anywhere else in America.He too has CAA experience.LC needs a clean sweep. I am not opposed to retaining any coach the new guy wants but do not think a current coordinator should be considered for HC because the culture needs a total fumigation after 7 consecutive losing seasons.Theresa Grentz said it and it is so true - "The culture is the hardest part - the players need to buy in that it's not OK to play hard and lose." Parenthetically  I would  recommend Frank for the LC Hall of Fame for saving a moribund program from the BOT and the Rothkopf and Kissiah cabal and winning the championships he did AND for winning 150.Andy Coen is still talking about the sting of losing that game.That was a landmark win even though we had a losing season the rest of that season. Last, we don't need an Ivy League assistant.Times have changed since Bill Russo came to our rescue in 1981 (even though he came from Wagner after being an Ivy assistant.)PL is PL and the Ivies are a separate entity because players find them rather than the other way around as with the PL.


Just to clear up some wrong information - Faragalli is no longer at Columbia, in fact he left after last season.
WVPard

Because others named Heff, I have to vote for him and personal loyalty will not permit me to vote for anyone else.

But, Heff just turned 60.  According to coachingsearch.com, the 2015 average salary for a Big10 TE coach is $213,000.  I am assuming that, due to Northwestern's location and his ability to negotiate, Heff has to be making more than that.  I would be shocked (but personally really happy) if he came back to the Hill.

Hopefully, we will find a young, hungry coach with a vision that matches the quality of our football facilities.
bethlehempard

I concur on the young hungry coach.
A couple years ago my wife and I were having dinner at Morici's before a game. Nearby sat a couple alumni who, I dare say, are more important to the school than I am. Yes I concede that.
Anyway they were talking about the football situation which was already imploding. I wasn't eavesdropping but heard one bring up the book "The Longest Winter" about the Korean War.
I'd read the book but thought nothing of it.
Later I realized he was probably referring to Gen. Matthew Ridgway who restored order in Korea after MacArthur (another great one) was fired.
Ridgway wanted company commanders to be no older than 40, energetic and and hungry.
I don't care about a Lafayette connection. Bring in a young guy who gets the academic side and wants to win. End of story.
Time for another drink.
Thanks Frank!
NewXbo

Now we have a bunch of "experts" popping up on the web site telling us who to hire. Where have you been the last three years. And now you are telling us who the next coach should be.
The Maroon

You don't hire an assistant to turn around a moribund program.  Fein or anybody on the staff would be a disappointment.  A major one.
With that said I don't why were tossing out a handful of names that a lot of us used to drink with.  Let's be real: We're most likely going to get a coordinator from a PL or Ivy and let's just hope we get a good one.
Kpard

Fein was at the basketball game last night. He usually comes to a lot of games. Interesting that he was not dressed in his usual jeans, tee shirt, and baseball hat. Business casual for the interim head coach last night.  Confused
LeopardBall10

The Maroon wrote:
With that said I don't why were tossing out a handful of names that a lot of us used to drink with.  Let's be real: We're most likely going to get a coordinator from a PL or Ivy and let's just hope we get a good one.


That's not a bad thought. So what would those options look like:

Patriot League:
Folmar at Lehigh has the best O in the league, previous HC experience, young, from PA

Both of the Fordham coordinators are young but have almost no experience

Both Colgate coordinators are 'Gate lifers (been there 10+ years)

Can't beleive I forgot about Borich at Bucknell. Assistant HC and DC at Bucknell, young guy, and previously spent time on the Leopards staff under Loose.

Kashurba, the DC at Holy Cross is a very good mid-40s coach. Spent time as the DC at Bucknell as well.

Both Nueburger and Thompson at Gtown could fit the mold somewhat but I don't know anything about them.
LeopardBall10

The coordinator options in the Ivy League:

At Harvard Joel Lamb has been the OC for 11 years, but would probably be a good get. The DC is Scott Larkee who has only coached at Harvard and GAd at Boston COllege. But is a young successful coach who currently recruits the Lehigh Valley for the Crimson

Benson the DC at Penn has only been there two years after leaving Albany. Not a shining resume. Reagan, the OC is an older coach, but has been the OC at Kansas and Rice previously

Perry, the OC at Princeton is probably the rising star of the bunch. IMO the most innovative OC I have ever seen. Young guy with a ton of success. But has never been outside of the Ivy, played and coached at Brown and then right to Princeton.

The entire offensive staff just got fired at Darmouth. And you are not getting Donny Dobes, the Big Green DC. He is a fantastic coach and great freinds with Loose. But I don't see him wanting to leave his set up at Dartmouth.

Backus the DC at Cornell is also the Associate HC with past stops at Princeton and Bucknell. Successful coach, young, energetic, and gets the PL and Ivy. Not sure why they have struggled at Cornell.

Bagnoli has a hell of a staff over at Columbia. DC and Assistant HC Ferraro is older, but has experience at Maine and the NFL. I have also heard good things about Fabish who is a younger guy and the Associate HC on staff. Spent a lot of time at Penn, RI, and 10 years at Monmouth.
Spardicus80

I voted for John Loose.  I have never met him, but from other comments on the this board, he seems to be a man of high character and integrity as well as a fine football coach.  Remember, the next head coach, first and foremost, needs to be a leader - a teacher and mentor, and a role model for the young men in his charge.  X's and O's are important, but this next coach sells the college, and all that it stands for, to future recruits - many of whom may not be familiar with the school.  A Lafayette diploma must never be cheapened by someone cutting corners or cheating in the pursuit of success on the field.

I have no idea whether Coach Loose would come back to Lafayette.  However, I see two obstacles.  The first is compensation.  In addition to a sizeable DI salary, the Army offers its coaches at West Point free housing and other perks that can only be available to personnel stationed on a military base.  Lafayette would have to provide a generous package to lure him away from West Point.  Second, the mission statement for Jeff Monken was to accomplish two things: beat Navy, and participating in a bowl game.  Neither has yet been accomplished, although they might be this year.  If these goals were met, then Loose may be willing to move on.  If not, then his thinking might be that until both goals are met, he is staying.
Franks Tanks

LeopardBall10 wrote:
The Maroon wrote:
With that said I don't why were tossing out a handful of names that a lot of us used to drink with.  Let's be real: We're most likely going to get a coordinator from a PL or Ivy and let's just hope we get a good one.


That's not a bad thought. So what would those options look like:

Patriot League:
Folmar at Lehigh has the best O in the league, previous HC experience, young, from PA

Both of the Fordham coordinators are young but have almost no experience

Both Colgate coordinators are 'Gate lifers (been there 10+ years)

Can't beleive I forgot about Borich at Bucknell. Assistant HC and DC at Bucknell, young guy, and previously spent time on the Leopards staff under Loose.

Kashurba, the DC at Holy Cross is a very good mid-40s coach. Spent time as the DC at Bucknell as well.

Both Nueburger and Thompson at Gtown could fit the mold somewhat but I don't know anything about them.


Mike O' Connor is the OC at Bucknell and Lafayette class of 04.  Spent his career here backing up Marco Glavic, and is a great guy.  The Bison offense has been pedestrian however, but much of that is due to super conservative Joe Susan.


Regarding Loose and Army going to 225 would I think be a raise for him, and we also offer some really nice perks like a free ride.  He has been at either Lafayette or Army for over 20 years now, and isn't a guy who likes to hop around.  He can see Lafayette as his last job for 10 to 15 years, which would result is a very nice career. Army needs to beat Navy in the next two years or Monken and his staff mat be looking elsewhere.  Lafayette makes s lot of sense for Loose unless there were some bridges burned at some point.. In my opinion anyway.
ed65

The Maroon wrote:
You don't hire an assistant to turn around a moribund program.  Fein or anybody on the staff would be a disappointment.  A major one.
With that said I don't why were tossing out a handful of names that a lot of us used to drink with.  Let's be real: We're most likely going to get a coordinator from a PL or Ivy and let's just hope we get a good one.


Totally agree re: Fein.
edge29

Franks Tanks wrote:

Regarding Loose and Army going to 225 would I think be a raise for him, and we also offer some really nice perks like a free ride.  He has been at either Lafayette or Army for over 20 years now, and isn't a guy who likes to hop around.  He can see Lafayette as his last job for 10 to 15 years, which would result is a very nice career. Army needs to beat Navy in the next two years or Monken and his staff mat be looking elsewhere.  Lafayette makes s lot of sense for Loose unless there were some bridges burned at some point.. In my opinion anyway.


Agreed.  Loose should be at the top of the list.  As I mentioned before, this position is VERY desirable to many of the candidates mentioned in the previous posts and that has been confirmed.

Think of it this way...if you were in the coaching ranks and had kids in middle and/or high school, how much of a pay cut would you take to get the perks and free education(s) at Lafayette?
Bogus Megapardus

Admin - I wish to change my vote from "Other" to "Cramsey." Wink
seenalot

Young hungry coaches will leave in 3 to 5 years and I'm ok with that if the young hungry coaches looked like the football versions of Tom Davis, Gary Williams or Roy Chipman.  

I think we have to accept that we are either a) a stepping stone job to someplace bigger for more $ or, b) we are going to get more "coach for life" guys like Russo, Tavani and FOH.   LC seems to prefer the later, but in case anyone hasn't noticed....not working.
SIDELINER

ET TU BRUTUS!!!!!!!!!
Pard4Life

Some of the creativity on here is less than inspiring... we don't need someone who has been at LC before.

The Princeton OC sounds intriguing.
bethlehempard

Pard4Life wrote:
Some of the creativity on here is less than inspiring... we don't need someone who has been at LC before.


Well said. This immediate grasp for someone who is familiar would limit the choices. Ideally the search will truly be national.

Complete change would be best.
flyfisher

Pard4Life wrote:
Some of the creativity on here is less than inspiring... we don't need someone who has been at LC before.

The Princeton OC sounds intriguing.

Just because they have been at LC before doesn't make them a bad guy. Loose would be a good choice. But don't stop there. There are endless good opportunities out there.
Look at LC. Great facilities, good conference, above average academics (not what we used to be in academics. We have slipped).

Negatives, horrendous admin support and terrible administration that can't even completely fund the football team. Even our soccer coach said to the committee that you have to fund football and basketball.

There are many young aspiring head coaches out there that will see LC as an opportunity. Do we have the people in place to find the right one
Lafalum

And would say a lot about the direction of the whole department.
flyfisher

seenalot wrote:
Young hungry coaches will leave in 3 to 5 years and I'm ok with that if the young hungry coaches looked like the football versions of Tom Davis, Gary Williams or Roy Chipman.  

I think we have to accept that we are either a) a stepping stone job to someplace bigger for more $ or, b) we are going to get more "coach for life" guys like Russo, Tavani and FOH.   LC seems to prefer the later, but in case anyone hasn't noticed....not working.


We want guys who see this job as a stepping stone. Look at the coaches that have been through Lehigh. Do we really want a guy that is content at LC? All you Wall Street guys out there. Do you hit people that are content at a lower level? Anyone worth a crap isn't going to stay at LC forever. You have to have enough confidence in your program and your leadership that you can attract another good coach.
XLeopard

Faragalli - in
Loose - in
Trox - in
K Clark - in
Wrobo - in
Hach - in
Heff - out
Partridge - hahahaha
Anyone on staff - out

If you have questions ask, I know more than you think.
Pard4Life

It's a joke to think that Partridge would come back here. Best move would be to land a coordinator role at a Power 5 then head coach.
Franks Tanks

XLeopard wrote:
Faragalli - in
Loose - in
Trox - in
K Clark - in
Wrobo - in
Hach - in
Heff - out
Partridge - hahahaha
Anyone on staff - out

If you have questions ask, I know more than you think.


Who is K Clark?

Is Bruce going to interview anyone who hasn't worked or attend school here?

I hope it's not Mike Faragalli or Hach.  Both are solid coaches, but some others there are better "face of the program" type guys in my opinion.

Agree that Partridge and Lafayette are just on two different planes here and it probably wouldn't work.  Chris is firmly entrenched as a guy who can catch big recruiting fish.  He may advance up the ladder, but if not he will have a great career as a position coach and recruiting all star.  I highly doubt he has much interest, and wonder if he would be a good fit anyway.  Good news is that we should get a really solid coach.  The program will improve almost immediately, although progress may be incremental in the win column.
XLeopard

Franks Tanks wrote:
XLeopard wrote:
Faragalli - in
Loose - in
Trox - in
K Clark - in
Wrobo - in
Hach - in
Heff - out
Partridge - hahahaha
Anyone on staff - out

If you have questions ask, I know more than you think.


Who is K Clark?

Is Bruce going to interview anyone who hasn't worked or attend school here?

I hope it's not Mike Faragalli or Hach.  Both are solid coaches, but some others there are better "face of the program" type guys in my opinion.

Agree that Partridge and Lafayette are just on two different planes here and it probably wouldn't work.  Chris is firmly entrenched as a guy who can catch big recruiting fish.  He may advance up the ladder, but if not he will have a great career as a position coach and recruiting all star.  I highly doubt he has much interest, and wonder if he would be a good fit anyway.  Good news is that we should get a really solid coach.  The program will improve almost immediately, although progress may be incremental in the win column.


Keith Clark - alum and on the offense at Dartmouth, prior position was at Yale with Powell's grandfather.

If I was betting, hire will be someone with Lafayette ties.
njleopard

[quote="XLeopard:58438"]Faragalli - in
Loose - in
Trox - in
K Clark - in
Wrobo - in
Hach - in
Heff - out
Partridge - hahahaha
Anyone on staff - out

If you have questions ask, I know more than you think.[/quote]

How are they ranked? Who is in the lead? When will a decision be made?
Texas and Indiana had new coaches in place in hours.
edge29

XLeopard wrote:
Franks Tanks wrote:
XLeopard wrote:
Faragalli - in
Loose - in
Trox - in
K Clark - in
Wrobo - in
Hach - in
Heff - out
Partridge - hahahaha
Anyone on staff - out

If you have questions ask, I know more than you think.


Who is K Clark?

Is Bruce going to interview anyone who hasn't worked or attend school here?

I hope it's not Mike Faragalli or Hach.  Both are solid coaches, but some others there are better "face of the program" type guys in my opinion.

Agree that Partridge and Lafayette are just on two different planes here and it probably wouldn't work.  Chris is firmly entrenched as a guy who can catch big recruiting fish.  He may advance up the ladder, but if not he will have a great career as a position coach and recruiting all star.  I highly doubt he has much interest, and wonder if he would be a good fit anyway.  Good news is that we should get a really solid coach.  The program will improve almost immediately, although progress may be incremental in the win column.


Keith Clark - alum and on the offense at Dartmouth, prior position was at Yale with Powell's grandfather.

If I was betting, hire will be someone with Lafayette ties.


You don't have to bet.  It's a certainty.  The organizational structure hasn't changed so what makes everyone think they would be so bold to expose themselves by bringing someone in from the outside?  

Bank on it being someone who's been at LC and knows how to get in line.  Sadly, it will not be a surprise.
seenalot

For those who don't know Keith - would not be a surprising choice AT ALL.  And would signal end of Stan Clayton/Fein era.

http://dartmouthsports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?ATCLID=3731429
NE Leopard

seenalot wrote:
For those who don't know Keith - would not be a surprising choice AT ALL.  And would signal end of Stan Clayton/Fein era.

http://dartmouthsports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?ATCLID=3731429


My understanding is that Keith Clark was retained in the Dartmouth shakeup, but demoted back to just the OL. He was the OC for just the 2016 season.
flyfisher

Purely a guess but because of our structure I am betting the new hire will have ties to LC. I don't know most of the people being kicked around like some of you.
killaBee

Any chance we go and get the best in the business, and he in return wins championships and fills the stands?
LeopardBall10

killaBee wrote:
Any chance we go and get the best in the business, and he in return wins championships and fills the stands?


Ignoring the last half of your question, because... reality of the PL

None. No chance. The top coaches in FCS are making upwards of $350 with incentives taking them as high as $450. The coordinators at the tops programs make as much as our head coach.
LeopardBall10

flyfisher wrote:
Purely a guess but because of our structure I am betting the new hire will have ties to LC. I don't know most of the people being kicked around like some of you.


No guess, the next HC will definitely have ties to LC. But I don't think that is bad. We have a very specific set of problems here ranging from PL limitations to issues with administration and lack of support. Bringing in someone who knows those issues and knows how to address them is the fastest way to improve. If you bring in a total outsider you may get new blood and energy but you may also get someone who doesn't really know everything about the job, and gets swallowed up by the difficulties of the school. You can't fight against what you don't know exists.
killaBee

Not quite sure your correct,, J grass at Jacksonville state signed a 181000 contract with incentives to 250,00

K.C. Keeler makes 250,000

Klieman signed a five-year contract last year at a base salary of $261,177 that included appearance and media fees that brought the deal to $326,000.
NDS.

top 3 programs in FCS.. We are not that far off...
NewXbo

Has anybody cheeked the NCAA website for open coaching positions?  Openings are normally posted there a few weeks before the hiring process begins. It affords an opportunity to get the opening out to a wide variety of coaches and allows the time to submit an application. Sounds like a job for Andy.
LeopardBall10

killaBee wrote:
Not quite sure your correct,, J grass at Jacksonville state signed a 181000 contract with incentives to 250,00

K.C. Keeler makes 250,000

Klieman signed a five-year contract last year at a base salary of $261,177 that included appearance and media fees that brought the deal to $326,000.
NDS.

top 3 programs in FCS.. We are not that far off...


For Klieman the $326 base is just guaranteed. That does not take into account any of his incentives for playoff/Nation Championship appearances or wins.

Reports were that Brock was making upwards of $370 at Deleware. And Rocco (who is being targeted by Deleware now) was making $400 with salaries and bonuses at Liberty before he left for Richmond. Estimates have him around $425 currently at Richmond.

And, as reported by Liberty U. tax records Turner Gill has a base compensation of over $600 with total copmensation totaling more than $700

Here is a pretty good article that looks at just a few salaries around the FCS: http://www.aseaofred.com/scanning-fcs-coaches-salaries/

I also don't know where people are getting this $225 number for Tavani. Unless he got a big raise ith this last extension that's not what his salary was. If you count phone, car, house, expenses... maybe. But all of those coaches above have the same perks.
Franks Tanks

Rocco supposedly makes 400 plus at Richmond, and there is a lot of smoke that he is heading to Delaware, which I presume would include a raise.  I think only a select few FCS coaches are making that kind of money however.  

Liberty and JMU pay their coaches line that as well.  Bagnolli is rumored to be taking home that range at Columbia too.
LeopardBall10

NewXbo wrote:
Has anybody cheeked the NCAA website for open coaching positions?  Openings are normally posted there a few weeks before the hiring process begins. It affords an opportunity to get the opening out to a wide variety of coaches and allows the time to submit an application. Sounds like a job for Andy.


The scoop will have everything far before the NCAA job board. And if you have a "real" chance at a position you will know before it hits the scoop.
NewXbo

LeopardBall10 wrote:
NewXbo wrote:
Has anybody cheeked the NCAA website for open coaching positions?  Openings are normally posted there a few weeks before the hiring process begins. It affords an opportunity to get the opening out to a wide variety of coaches and allows the time to submit an application. Sounds like a job for Andy.


The scoop will have everything far before the NCAA job board. And if you have a "real" chance at a position you will know before it hits the scoop.


So you think any coach seeking the head coaching job at Lafayette is reading this board??????
LeopardBall10

NewXbo wrote:

So you think any coach seeking the head coaching job at Lafayette is reading this board??????


Wait, what? I don't think I follow. I didn't mention this board at all in my response.

The scoop, or more formally footballscoop.com, is largley considered the end-all-be-all for the coaching rumor mill. All posts on the scoop are derived from "insider tips" or published reports and will have the job opening long before the NCAA Job Board does. I am on both sites at least once a day, the NCAA job board does not list even half of the current Head Coaching openings. Most schools do not pay to post these because the ADs typically have a short list they want to interview and will not solicit applications.

For schools that require an opening to be posted for a specific length of time, those schools usually post the position on the school website, and do not publicize it. This way, they meet the requirements but do not receive the several thousand applications that no one wants to read. But as of now we do not have the head coaching job even listed on the Lafayette College site : https://hr.lafayette.edu/category/job-opportunity/
Andy

Leopard10, with the assumption that John and Trox are buddies (Trox on the board of LF&G) would they compete for this job?  If Trox is lead candidate was Loose even interested?
Pards Rule

XLeopard wrote:
Franks Tanks wrote:
XLeopard wrote:
Faragalli - in
Loose - in
Trox - in
K Clark - in
Wrobo - in
Hach - in
Heff - out
Partridge - hahahaha
Anyone on staff - out

If you have questions ask, I know more than you think.


Who is K Clark?

Is Bruce going to interview anyone who hasn't worked or attend school here?

I hope it's not Mike Faragalli or Hach.  Both are solid coaches, but some others there are better "face of the program" type guys in my opinion.

Agree that Partridge and Lafayette are just on two different planes here and it probably wouldn't work.  Chris is firmly entrenched as a guy who can catch big recruiting fish.  He may advance up the ladder, but if not he will have a great career as a position coach and recruiting all star.  I highly doubt he has much interest, and wonder if he would be a good fit anyway.  Good news is that we should get a really solid coach.  The program will improve almost immediately, although progress may be incremental in the win column.


Keith Clark - alum and on the offense at Dartmouth, prior position was at Yale with Powell's grandfather.

If I was betting, hire will be someone with Lafayette ties.



Haha last time I remember Keith Clark's name was my senior year fall 1983 and I would sit just below the coaches box to hear them when the windows were opened in warmer weather. One game Jack Siedlecki (who was OC and sat up there) was saying to someone on the field after a complete beat by a DL or holding call: "Is that Keith Clark - AGAIN!?!? Get him outta there - he's being beaten like a drum!"
LeopardBall10

Andy wrote:
Leopard10, with the assumption that John and Trox are buddies (Trox on the board of LF&G) would they compete for this job?  If Trox is lead candidate was Loose even interested?


They are very good friends. Their families grew up together, and they spend a ton of time together outside of football. To be honest, I have no idea how that would go if they were both interested.

But at this point we don't know who has shown interest and who was on the ADs list to reach out to. My guess is that our administration reached out to Trox not the other way around. I wonder if anyone has called Loose, this would be a perfect week (a bye before Navy week). Loose has told me in the past he would want it, but things change so fast in this profession. He recently sold his house and moved the family to NY. Would he be opposed to moving them back and buying a new house? Who knows.

There is so much speculation out there is some cirlces that it is hard to tell what is even real yet. Everyone thought Trox was going to Columbia when that opened, because of his history there, but some say he didn't even apply.
Lafalum

LeopardBall10 wrote:


For schools that require an opening to be posted for a specific length of time, those schools usually post the position on the school website, and do not publicize it. This way, they meet the requirements but do not receive the several thousand applications that no one wants to read. But as of now we do not have the head coaching job even listed on the Lafayette College site : https://hr.lafayette.edu/category/job-opportunity/


So do you think this was a decision made right after the Lehigh game? I have heard from a really good source that donations, in particular athletic contributions, are dead in the water. And you have that pesky consultant  about to arrive!
Bogus Megapardus

NewXbo wrote:
Has anybody cheeked the NCAA website for open coaching positions?  Openings are normally posted there a few weeks before the hiring process begins. It affords an opportunity to get the opening out to a wide variety of coaches and allows the time to submit an application. Sounds like a job for Andy.


http://ncaamarket.ncaa.org/jobseekers/
Bogus Megapardus

NewXbo wrote:
So you think any coach seeking the head coaching job at Lafayette is reading this board??????


No. Long ago I convinced myself that nobody reads this board. Wink
Bogus Megapardus

From The Scoop:
    Lafayette (FCS – PA): Lafayette head coach Frank Tavani will not return sources have confirmed to FootballScoop. In 17 seasons at the helm, Tavani’s teams won 84 games. After winning 5 games for several straight seasons, the Leopards only won 1 game in 2015 and 2 this season.
http://footballscoop.com/the-scoop-2/tuesday-november-29-2016/
LeopardBall10

Lafalum wrote:
So do you think this was a decision made right after the Lehigh game? I have heard from a really good source that donations, in particular athletic contributions, are dead in the water. And you have that pesky consultant  about to arrive!


My personal opinion is that they had probably been talking about it, trying to decide if they would and if they would be ok with the buy out. Then Frank made his comments after the Lehigh game, the saw the contribution numbers, and had to make the change. But this is all just speculation on my part.
Lafalum

LeopardBall10 wrote:
Lafalum wrote:
So do you think this was a decision made right after the Lehigh game? I have heard from a really good source that donations, in particular athletic contributions, are dead in the water. And you have that pesky consultant  about to arrive!


My personal opinion is that they had probably been talking about it, trying to decide if they would and if they would be ok with the buy out. Then Frank made his comments after the Lehigh game, the saw the contribution numbers, and had to make the change. But this is all just speculation on my part.


Sounds logical to me. But someone had to make the walk to the third floor of Markle to approve the buyout. That was the mechanism for the delay. And yes, his remarks were embarrassing  and an element  in the decision. The consultant's imminent  arrival  was probably a motivator.
SixtyEighter

What about empty seats at the LC-LU game? And the poor attendance all season . Empty seats at "The Game" however are unheard of. I can't remember that in my lifetime.But I can only remember back to the sixties .

The LC-LU game is to these schools like Christmas for a retailer.Besides the money empty seats denote apathy as well. Wouldn't it be ironic if Joe Starret's complaints about the gate receipts got Frank fired? That may have been what was needed to get McCutcheon off the dime.
XLeopard

njleopard wrote:
XLeopard wrote:
Faragalli - in
Loose - in
Trox - in
K Clark - in
Wrobo - in
Hach - in
Heff - out
Partridge - hahahaha
Anyone on staff - out

If you have questions ask, I know more than you think.


How are they ranked? Who is in the lead? When will a decision be made?
Texas and Indiana had new coaches in place in hours.


Loose is the likely favorite, but Trox is likely second. But who truly knows based on the committee and I do not know who the committee is.
Do not expect a decision quickly. Probably after the new year since they hired a search firm.
bethlehempard

Never forget, Frank's comments were a final gift to Lafayette. The die was probably cast already but his statements made it easier for all. Enemies were vindicated, what few allies were left were disgusted.
Thanks Frank!
Tomorrow night I'm going to be at an Italian place near MOMA and I will have a Nero d'avola in your honor. For all you do, this red's for you.

He did do a lot. What's done is done.

If his successor has Lafayette heritage, that will be a potential bad sign. Please make this a real search.
Lafalum

SixtyEighter wrote:


Wouldn't it be ironic if Joe Starret's complaints about the gate receipts got Frank fired? That may have been what was needed to get McCutcheon off the dime.


What was said and when and where....I missed it??
SIDELINER

Lafalum wrote:
SixtyEighter wrote:


Wouldn't it be ironic if Joe Starret's complaints about the gate receipts got Frank fired? That may have been what was needed to get McCutcheon off the dime.


What was said and when and where....I missed it??


If there was a Sterrett comment about that I missed it, too. Where's Rich when we need him?
RichH

OK Im here. I heard nothing. I will adk.  Earlier this year there was a B& W interview about attendance with Joe. As far as I recall no specific reference to our game. We dont split gates so home receipts no iss.
Well Ill ask around.
bethlehempard

Joe S. is a remarkably organized and thoughtful guy. I mean really organized.  The opposite of rash and rude.
For him to say anything like that, I'd be very surprised.
RichH

Ive known Joe since his playing days. He does not make off the cuff comments pyblicly and rarely otherwise.
I do know that there have been comments from others about LC athletics not specifically football. Gist was more about "how could that continue " at D1 level. Heard a lot of comments in 2nd half from fans about empty stands.
RichH

OK there was indeed a bitch from our Ath Dept as to ticket allocation for game.. Only 3000 . Caused major issues for alumni to get tickets.  Adjoining section was mostly empty. No idea whether Joe himself made any comments but the issue was ticket allocation not overall attendance for Pard program.
njleopard

[quote="RichH:58522"]OK there was indeed a bitch from our Ath Dept as to ticket allocation for game.. Only 3000 . Caused major issues for alumni to get tickets.  Adjoining section was mostly empty. No idea whether Joe himself made any comments but the issue was ticket allocation not overall attendance for Pard program.[/quote

Was the poor attendence due to apathy or incompetence in the ticket office or allocations?
njleopard

[quote="SixtyEighter:58319"]We need to be realistic. There are not many Bob Suraces in this world. It is extremely unlikely Partridge would move down to Lafayette from Michigan unless he wants to establish chops as an FCS HC as a credential for FBS.He already has an upwardly mobile position under a member of football royalty.It was a cruel blow to Lafayette when the incompetent nincompoops at Rutgers drove him away. If he was he at Rutgers we would have had a better shot. I previously suggested that we needed a Dave Cohen type who had Patriot League experience and also FBS experience with scholarship recruiting.He is not likely to return to the PL because he had an HC position before going to Wake- I forget where. He is the type of guy we need not the precise guy. A candidate unmentioned heretofore is Mike Rearden. He has CAA experience at Villanova and HC at St. Augustine Prep in South Jersey. His headmaster has just left to take a similar position at Malvern. Maybe Mike is ready to move back to Delaware in both scholarships and recruiting at that level.He is currently college.He is an outstanding prep coach.He was with great programs at Villanova and Delaware. I agree that Mike Faragalli is also a good thought but don't know if he would come back. He can't be too happy at Columbia. Even with Bagnoli it's a worse coaches' graveyard than anywhere else in America.He too has CAA experience.LC needs a clean sweep. I am not opposed to retaining any coach the new guy wants but do not think a current coordinator should be considered for HC because the culture needs a total fumigation after 7 consecutive losing seasons.Theresa Grentz said it and it is so true - "The culture is the hardest part - the players need to buy in that it's not OK to play hard and lose." Parenthetically  I would  recommend Frank for the LC Hall of Fame for saving a moribund program from the BOT and the Rothkopf and Kissiah cabal and winning the championships he did AND for winning 150.Andy Coen is still talking about the sting of losing that game.That was a landmark win even though we had a losing season the rest of that season. Last, we don't need an Ivy League assistant.Times have changed since Bill Russo came to our rescue in 1981 (even though he came from Wagner after being an Ivy assistant.)PL is PL and the Ivies are a separate entity because players find them rather than the other way around as with the PL.[/quote]

After all the recent travails we must not forget Frank put his heart and soul into LC football  for decades
and deserves proper  recognition.
Lafalum

njleopard wrote:
SixtyEighter wrote:
We need to be realistic. There are not many Bob Suraces in this world. It is extremely unlikely Partridge would move down to Lafayette from Michigan unless he wants to establish chops as an FCS HC as a credential for FBS.He already has an upwardly mobile position under a member of football royalty.It was a cruel blow to Lafayette when the incompetent nincompoops at Rutgers drove him away. If he was he at Rutgers we would have had a better shot. I previously suggested that we needed a Dave Cohen type who had Patriot League experience and also FBS experience with scholarship recruiting.He is not likely to return to the PL because he had an HC position before going to Wake- I forget where. He is the type of guy we need not the precise guy. A candidate unmentioned heretofore is Mike Rearden. He has CAA experience at Villanova and HC at St. Augustine Prep in South Jersey. His headmaster has just left to take a similar position at Malvern. Maybe Mike is ready to move back to Delaware in both scholarships and recruiting at that level.He is currently college.He is an outstanding prep coach.He was with great programs at Villanova and Delaware. I agree that Mike Faragalli is also a good thought but don't know if he would come back. He can't be too happy at Columbia. Even with Bagnoli it's a worse coaches' graveyard than anywhere else in America.He too has CAA experience.LC needs a clean sweep. I am not opposed to retaining any coach the new guy wants but do not think a current coordinator should be considered for HC because the culture needs a total fumigation after 7 consecutive losing seasons.Theresa Grentz said it and it is so true - "The culture is the hardest part - the players need to buy in that it's not OK to play hard and lose." Parenthetically  I would  recommend Frank for the LC Hall of Fame for saving a moribund program from the BOT and the Rothkopf and Kissiah cabal and winning the championships he did AND for winning 150.Andy Coen is still talking about the sting of losing that game.That was a landmark win even though we had a losing season the rest of that season. Last, we don't need an Ivy League assistant.Times have changed since Bill Russo came to our rescue in 1981 (even though he came from Wagner after being an Ivy assistant.)PL is PL and the Ivies are a separate entity because players find them rather than the other way around as with the PL.


After all the recent travails we must not forget Frank put his heart and soul into LC football  for decades
and deserves proper  recognition.


He can not be nominated for the Hall of Fame for five years following his departure ( in the case of an employee...... an alumni/player must wait at least 10 years.) Frank's contribution was to save the program in the face of Rothkopf et. al.  I wish that could be said as a condemnation to the cabal.
Franks Tanks

Official attendance was roughly  500 less than the stadium capacity. I suppose we should've given Lehigh more tickets, but tickets could be purchased via the  Lafayette website right up to the game.  Are people that unsavy when it comes to purchasing tickets?  They were very easy to obtain.

500 unsold tickets is concerning, but does not cause a major revenue shortfall, and yes many people never found their way to their seats or left early.  A pretty good statement about how fans were thinking about the program.
flyfisher

RichH wrote:
OK there was indeed a bitch from our Ath Dept as to ticket allocation for game.. Only 3000 . Caused major issues for alumni to get tickets.  Adjoining section was mostly empty. No idea whether Joe himself made any comments but the issue was ticket allocation not overall attendance for Pard program.


There were additional tickets for sale through school website. Game was not a sellout. Place only seats about ten thousand. They gave visitors three thousand. I think that is fair. Just my thoughts.

As to comments from the Lehigh fans, they are correct. The program is a mess. I see a lot of Lehigh engineering grads down sounth and even they were disappointed at how uncompetitive the game was and what we have become. Lehigh may be our rival but for the most part they want the rivalry to be competitive. Just yesterday i got paired with two Lehigh grads on the golf course. I had four hours of being asked why we are uncompetitive, why we allow it, and what are we going to do about it and when.

LC is starting to recruit more down south at the private powerhouse schools. I've talked with several kids being recruited by LC. When you are honest with them it's hard to come up with any positive ATHLETIC attributes.
Andy

flyfisher wrote:
RichH wrote:
OK there was indeed a bitch from our Ath Dept as to ticket allocation for game.. Only 3000 . Caused major issues for alumni to get tickets.  Adjoining section was mostly empty. No idea whether Joe himself made any comments but the issue was ticket allocation not overall attendance for Pard program.


There were additional tickets for sale through school website. Game was not a sellout. Place only seats about ten thousand. They gave visitors three thousand. I think that is fair. Just my thoughts.

As to comments from the Lehigh fans, they are correct. The program is a mess. I see a lot of Lehigh engineering grads down sounth and even they were disappointed at how uncompetitive the game was and what we have become. Lehigh may be our rival but for the most part they want the rivalry to be competitive. Just yesterday i got paired with two Lehigh grads on the golf course. I had four hours of being asked why we are uncompetitive, why we allow it, and what are we going to do about it and when.

LC is starting to recruit more down south at the private powerhouse schools. I've talked with several kids being recruited by LC. When you are honest with them it's hard to come up with any positive ATHLETIC attributes.


Sorry you guys are leaving this way, fly. All the bitterness.
flyfisher

yep, it's not just the losses but the process that got us there. the loss of Loose was tough. he was a leader in the program. there are other good coaches but Loose was a leader.

Was short on time Andy. My post in another thread explains in more detail. Try to see the players view. They have one shot to play in college. Alumni always have next year. You know that, you played the game. Unless you have a redshirt there are no do overs for the player. The alumni always has next year. Losing is part of the game but sometimes HOW you lose can make it even worse. The process you go through can make it worse, especially when so much of it is preventable. And if you are not careful that losing culture can permeate itself in other parts of your life. You have to find a way to block it out. For serious, committed athlete it can really drag you down. A serious athlete has a approach to not just their sport but to other aspects of their life. Structure, discipline, hard work, teamwork , commitment. When you don't see that in a major part of your life it can be frustrating. It's tough to tune it out and not let it become part of you. There are many things that go unsaid here but it's not just the losing, but how we lost. There are so many aspects in the program that are out of control. The good news is just about anyone they hire will clean some of this up.

My son will leave with a good education, some great friendships. And we are grateful for the education.  He is lucky that he has another year to finish out his career, take some classes for grad school or go ahead and enter grad school. Not every kid has that luxury. The Sunday after the Lehigh game we went out to eat and we're sitting with some other senior parents. A few were crying. We did not understand why until we asked and then we knew they felt the same way we did. They felt bad what their sons went through,  there career was over, and for the process they endured. Again, it's not always the losing but HOW you lose. Some don't care much, Simply grateful for the education and the chance to play. And we are grateful for the education and friendships. Some take it harder than others. I hope you understand that a kid or family wants more out of it than just a free education and some good friends. Everyone is not just a taker. You want to win, or at least be put in a situation to win.  Some not only want to win but want to have a process and everyone give an effort that competes for championships. Our program doesn't make that effort, or hasn't recently. I do think some of that will change.

Even though my son did not play this year, he was in every single practice and every meeting, even when he didn't have to. I can tell you he was the only one in his position that made that effort. It gave him a different view. He could see practice differently. When we would watch the game I would be surprised when something did not go well. He would explain it was like that in practice all week. We played like we practiced. Plays that didn't work in the game, also did not work in practice that week. Players that got beat in the game in a situation, also got beat in practice. It was just tough going into each game knowing you had little chance for success.

It's not so much bitterness as just it was painful.
LeopardBall10

flyfisher wrote:
It's not so much bitterness as just it was painful.


I am sorry to see commitment like this to leave. I understand how much of a commitment it takes to even show up to practice everyday, to work to get better, to care... I don't know your son but it sounds to me like we will be loosing someone with the attributes it will take to turn this program around. All the best, and if there is anything I can do to help please let me know.
Lafalum

LeopardBall10 wrote:
flyfisher wrote:
It's not so much bitterness as just it was painful.


I am sorry to see commitment like this to leave. I understand how much of a commitment it takes to even show up to practice everyday, to work to get better, to care... I don't know your son but it sounds to me like we will be loosing someone with the attributes it will take to turn this program around. All the best, and if there is anything I can do to help please let me know.


And therein lies the challenge for  the whole athletic department. That post should go to every member the BOT and the "Committee."
flyfisher

Like I said, he will leave with some good memories at LC. Some great friends and a good degree. And FWIW, they all say the professors are the best and the most positive thing about the college.

On the athletic side you need to understand, losing sucks. Its not just a game. Its not about being a "taker", someone that doesn't give a crap but just serves out their time to get a scholarship. You have to have the mentality that you are going to give back to the school. Most kids do but when they see the administration isn't committed and nor does the admin force other areas to be committed, some take the attitude of why should I be all in when the actions of the school say otherwise?

Its not just the losing, but the lack of a quality process to stop the losing. When you know you are going to lose before you take the field because the team is not prepared, that can drain you. Its more than having a good week of practice. Its about having a program based on discipline, teamwork, hard work, consistent processes of in all areas that nurture and develop this culture. We don't have that culture in football and all the way up through our athletic department. Its not just a Frank issue.

Watching this one mother and father cry the next day at breakfast after the Lehigh game was difficult. All they could say was they were sad they put their kid through this. For them it wasn't about just getting a scholarship and a good education. They wanted their kid to be in a situation where the team was in a position to win. And this kid got tons of playing time. For the seniors their playing days are over. there are no do overs. You want to know you are somewhere where everyone is on board and committed to winning.
PardDad71

Losing vs Winning

In my playing experience, there is such a fine line between winning and losing.   I hear flyfisher loud and clear.   Taking the field when you have no chance because there is a lack of preparation and commitment from the coaches is demoralizing.    That being said, a coach can change all of that.  Simple changes focused on discipline, effort, competing, and cohesiveness are part of the change.   Then leading by example by adjusting to the players, the competition, and preparing make huge differences.   Really there are so many examples of a coaching change (Stoops at OU, Jones at Hawaii, Holtz Sr at SC, Fleck at WM just to name a few).

Its disappointing to lose dedicated players, and I wish we could change that, but all the best in the future
Andy

XLeopard wrote:
Faragalli - in
Loose - in
Trox - in
K Clark - in
Wrobo - in
Hach - in
Heff - out
Partridge - hahahaha
Anyone on staff - out

If you have questions ask, I know more than you think.


Updates, XLep?
pgmillspunk

Sightings

How about the best coach in Happy Valley, Joe Morehead!   Surprised
PardDad71

I would be shocked if Joe Morehead is still in Happy Valley next season.   He saved James Franklins job
edge29

Andy wrote:
XLeopard wrote:
Faragalli - in
Loose - in
Trox - in
K Clark - in
Wrobo - in
Hach - in
Heff - out
Partridge - hahahaha
Anyone on staff - out

If you have questions ask, I know more than you think.


Updates, XLep?


To my surprise, I've heard Cramsey is interested as well.  I've also heard the college has yet to contact anyone.  I sure hope they don't drop the ball on this. Maybe they're waiting for the consultant. ??
LeopardBall10

edge29 wrote:

To my surprise, I've heard Cramsey is interested as well.  I've also heard the college has yet to contact anyone.  I sure hope they don't drop the ball on this. Maybe they're waiting for the consultant. ??


Haha of course he is interested. They just got fired at Nevada. It's not like we would be stealing him from the FBS. As soon as they hire a new coach he is out of a job, and a local paycheck in the cold weather is better than no paycheck. Partially tongue in cheek, obviously I think we have a lot to offer. But I am sure his agent is hunting down every opening out there right now.

As a side note I have heard that Loose is definitely interested and is "working on it". He is now in the middle of Army-Navy week, so he is focused elswhere right now, but its not like he just up and lost Bruce's cell number. If anything I am sure Loose has reached out to the school by now.

I have not heard anything else about Trox or the school's process. They could be waiting for the consultant, but I'm not sure how much they are going to be able to help (at least not quickly). They will need to get the lay of the land and gain some understanding before they could advise on something as important as the new head football coach.
killaBee

Whoever it is, i sure hope they bring their young quarterback who already knows their offense..
Andy

edge29 wrote:
Andy wrote:
XLeopard wrote:
Faragalli - in
Loose - in
Trox - in
K Clark - in
Wrobo - in
Hach - in
Heff - out
Partridge - hahahaha
Anyone on staff - out

If you have questions ask, I know more than you think.


Updates, XLep?


To my surprise, I've heard Cramsey is interested as well.  I've also heard the college has yet to contact anyone.  I sure hope they don't drop the ball on this. Maybe they're waiting for the consultant. ??


Thanks, 29!  They havent started or they're only considering a few names.  Or maybe just one preordained favorite son. Not encouraging.
Pards Rule

Franks Tanks wrote:
Official attendance was roughly  500 less than the stadium capacity. I suppose we should've given Lehigh more tickets, but tickets could be purchased via the  Lafayette website right up to the game.  Are people that unsavy when it comes to purchasing tickets?  They were very easy to obtain.

500 unsold tickets is concerning, but does not cause a major revenue shortfall, and yes many people never found their way to their seats or left early.  A pretty good statement about how fans were thinking about the program.


Attendance is tickets sold not turnstile clicks. There were a LOT more than 500 empty seats even in the beginning of the game. I had a whole section to myself!
Franks Tanks

Pards Rule wrote:
Franks Tanks wrote:
Official attendance was roughly  500 less than the stadium capacity. I suppose we should've given Lehigh more tickets, but tickets could be purchased via the  Lafayette website right up to the game.  Are people that unsavy when it comes to purchasing tickets?  They were very easy to obtain.

500 unsold tickets is concerning, but does not cause a major revenue shortfall, and yes many people never found their way to their seats or left early.  A pretty good statement about how fans were thinking about the program.


Attendance is tickets sold not turnstile clicks. There were a LOT more than 500 empty seats even in the beginning of the game. I had a whole section to myself!


Correct and I agree, but there are always empty seats, including at Lehigh.  People buy tickets and fail to show up, or stay at their tailgate or just attend the game for a short period.  Agree that this year was worse, and a fair amount of people bought tickets and didn't show.
Jpao92

I have this horrible feeling that their nationwide search is going to begin and end on College Hill.  We will end up with Fein.   Diorio and Brice will justify it as a great selection since he is already familiar with Lafayette's commitment to diversity and inclusion.
seenalot

If Bruce agrees to that without a fight he really needs to check between his legs and just go on record as happily rolling over for her for the duration of his tenure at LC.
Bogus Megapardus

LeopardBall10 wrote:
I have not heard anything else about Trox or the school's process.

Consistent with Bruce McC's interview during the basketball game, the "official" NCAA job posing specifies Division I scholarship experience. I know a lot of people would like to see Troxell as HC (with good reason) but it would seem that candidates with Division III-only experience are being ruled out.

As with a great many other things, I could be wrong. Embarassed


Bogus Megapardus

seenalot wrote:
If Bruce agrees to that without a fight he really needs to check between his legs and just go on record as happily rolling over for her for the duration of his tenure at LC.


No need to check between his legs.  They're already in her purse. Rolling Eyes
Bogus Megapardus

edge29 wrote:
To my surprise, I've heard Cramsey is interested as well.


Tim Cramsey is re-tweeting stuff from "CoachingSearch.com."

Tim - you're a former QB. Musn't forecast your plays! Razz

https://twitter.com/tcramsey19
flyfisher

sqeenalot wrote:
If Bruce agrees to that without a fight he really needs to check between his legs and just go on record as happily rolling over for her for the duration of his tenure at LC.


I just can't believe they would do this. Surely not. I do think we will get someone with knowledge or even experience withLC. Even the administration knows that whoever they hire needs to be aware of the obstacles of the job. I stil think Loose would be a good hire. It would be a chance for him to get his first head coach job, he knows where the bones are buried at LC, and he is a good coach and trusted person. All that said, I doubt he gets it.

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