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1990honda

Do you think fan support makes a difference?

When we moved to Camden County, Ga., we were shocked by the fan support of the football games. We immediately got infected by the football fever. We believed we made a difference by showing up and cheering loud with our cow bells ringing. Do you believe fans can make a difference?
Bogus Megapardus

Of course.

But given the typically serious and studious nature of the souls graduated by Lafayette over the years, it will always be more of a golf-clap crowd at Fisher. That doesn't mean we enjoy it any less.

Which raises an intriguing thought - what if everybody sets their cell phone ringers to "cow bell?" Seems like a nice accommodation.
1990honda

Should we leave our cow bells home so everyone can enjoy the game?

We met a few alumni when we were there and they seemed pretty serious about supporting the team. What about the students?
bethlehempard

There's a chicken vs. egg, cause vs. effect issue here. Winning brings out fans, particularly in basketball. Locals not just students, alumni and the LC community.
I think cowbells would go over about as well as those vuvuzela (spelling?) things they use in some African countries. Banned in some U.S. venues and now forgotten.
But what the hey, try anything. It can't make things worse.
I'm a focus-on-the-game guy, and watching basketball and baseball, with the inevitable terrible loud music at every break, is becoming difficult. So is focusing on the games anymore.
1990honda

I agree with you bethlehempard. Winning will bring more support of fans. So since the team will be undefeated the first game of the season, we can pull out all the stops.
Bogus Megapardus

Bpard pretty much nails it.  If 50% of the student body were to attend any given game, that's only about 1,100 people.  A good LC game against a serious foe in the midst of a winning, title-contending season garners nine or ten thousand.  So there's fairly broad appeal.

Noisy distractions and a circus-like atmosphere would never go over well at Fisher Field.  LC fans like to study the game, chat with family and friends and catch up with former classmates.  Sometimes even business deals (or at least future plans) are made.  And it goes without saying that Tavani-watching has become a time-honored tradition.

The leopard mascot (beloved by most) and the video replay screen probably are the only extracurricular distractions LC fans want during the game.
1990honda

Wow, I guess football games are different at different places. Maybe they should just go golfing instead. Or is it just so we can be fair and not have any home field advantage?
BPard

Remember when Lafayette security demanded Jon Gruden relocate from the grass because of decorum.

No, I'm not joking Honda. That happened last season.

I do wish we had more of a college football atmosphere. Unfortunately, the iron fist required to stop the practice of fans ripping down goal posts (last occurred in 2002 season and several students were suspended/ expelled over it) has caused the pendulum to swing the other way -too far, in my opinion.

Let's not pretend the hoity toity atmosphere was always like it is today. Hell, it was only what, 4 years ago, that our President was apologizing for inappropriate chants during basketball games.

Gotta call BS on crowd noise not going over well at Fisher. It's just been that long since crowds had something to get rowdy about.
bethlehempard

Watching a good team win or at least compete is fun. It's tense, it's entertaining and creates pride. At its best, the PL features competition where every down, every possession matters.
The atmosphere is far from hoitytoity. It is focused and interested.
The video game stuff is just that.
Just my humble opinion!
*Offensive chants with repercussions go back as far as 1979-80 against Bucknell and no doubt much earlier.
bethlehempard

1990honda wrote:
I agree with you bethlehempard. Winning will bring more support of fans. So since the team will be undefeated the first game of the season, we can pull out all the stops.

Best wishes.
We've had tough times in sports recently, but Lafayette is a great school and a great place to go to school.
1990honda

I am not trying to promote rowdiness or unseemly behavior by no means. It doesn't take that. But, I remember as a player the motivation rush I got from the fans cheering. I just want to return the favor.
1990honda

Bethlehempard, I know Lafayette is a great school. We researched many schools and traveled many miles to find the perfect fit. Our daughter goes to Vassar so we understand the dynamics. We are proud that our son goes to LC and is a leopard.

We might not be ready for cow bells yet. But, we are going to travel 884 miles for every home game. So, if they win or lose we can know we did all we could do.
bethlehempard

A bit of an aside, but perhaps you know, is Davidson as still adamantly anti-scholarship in football as it has been?
Hey if cowbells work, bring them on. My wife grew up on a dairy farm and there are several left in the old bank barn.
1990honda

I did attend Davidson before transferring to Georgia Southern. I don't know if they offer scholarships now. Davidson is a great school but I ran out of money. I got a full scholarship from Southern. I am glad LC offers scholarships.
killaBee

Honda, I had the same question two years ago,  my bell is lost in the tool room or in a trunk of one of the cars.  I believe the rules do not allow noise makers.  

I like hearing that buzzer sound at the end of the game and we are on the winning end.  I also love hearing hard hits..

This year will be different, we will have a magical turn around season, so bring your bell if you can still run fast.
Bogus Megapardus

killaBee wrote:
I believe the rules do not allow noise makers.

All the better reason to discover what it would sound like to have 9,000 cell phones set to "cow bell."
NewXbo

If you have attended a Lafayette basketball or football game, you will realize that Sports Information controls what happens regarding noise. All music is generated from the Finnen room. The Lafayette band is not allowed to play until all the big screen promotions are displayed.

Just a few years ago, Greenman was removed from the stadium after he came out with the cheerleaders.  For years they have been playing the "Bells of Doom", on third and short, to no avail.

Bring on the cowbells. Hell, lets bring on a few heifers and turn them loose.  Nothing like a roundup to get the fans into the game.
Bogus Megapardus

NewXbo wrote:
Hell, lets bring on a few heifers

Lehigh cheerleaders?  Wink
Bogus Megapardus

Cowbell App for Android:

https://play.google.com/store/app...ls?id=com.cgame.cowbell&hl=en

Cowbell App for iPhone:

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/more-cowbell/id285559215?mt=8

Cowbell App for Windows Phone:

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/store/apps/cowbell/9wzdncrddb51
Bogus Megapardus

Leopard Roar App for Android:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sounds.leopard

Leopard Roar App for iPhone:

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/cat-noises/id1076109212?mt=8

Leopard roar App for Windows Phone:

http://windowsphoneapk.com/APK_Tiger-Sound-Effects_Windows-Phone.html
1990honda

Just finished reading the rules and Killabee is right - no noise makers. So since I am a lot slower than I use to be, I will not be bringing a cow bell.  Maybe I got the cow before the plow. How is the tailgating?
killaBee

1990honda wrote:
Just finished reading the rules and Killabee is right - no noise makers. So since I am a lot slower than I use to be, I will not be bringing a cow bell.  Maybe I got the cow before the plow. How is the tailgating?


Honda it is excellent... The atmosphere is great.  All the parents, alumni and friends gather before and after the game.  We feed all the kids after the game.  It is sponsored by Friends of Lafayette, parents and alumni, away games as well.

I hope your family and son have a great experience at Lafayette College.

Welcome.....   I'll be listening for those hard hits.. Your son is a linebacker, right? Nothing better than the sound of the pads thumping and your standing on the upper tier....

Is your son there now?
BPard

Usually excellent tailgating. Can be under Markle deck if inclement weather. There are rules about how early cars can arrive before the game to setup for tailgating. Like most places, these rules are bent if you ask the right people and have a legit reason (like traveling 800 miles or having a son on the team).

No clue how parking passes work for parents. Homecoming and Lehigh game are usually the only two games where Markle passes are completely sold out, I believe.
1990honda

He will report on the 5th of July. We will get there on the 3rd. Will anything be happening on the 4th?
killaBee

1990honda wrote:
He will report on the 5th of July. We will get there on the 3rd. Will anything be happening on the 4th?




Nope just dropping my son off to continue training for the summer.

The kids need to off season train, perfect their craft, and study film.

I believe we will shock many teams this year. It will be here before you realize it.  

As far as parking passes, call up the ticket office, and you can purchase.  I suggest you do it as soon as possible.  We will be hosting the Mountain Penguins this year at home, so they may sell out early.

Looking forward to meeting you....
1990honda

I believe there are 73 days until the first game. Sometimes you need fresh eyes to see beyond the status-quo. They have new turf, new carpet in the weight room, and all kinds of new gear. I think a new attitude will fit right in.

If Humility comes before Honor, everybody better look out. I know dem leopards must be hungry.
1990honda

I believe the competition at those positions will be fierce. We know the intelligence of the players is not the problem. This 425 defense requires a lot of speed to be effective. Knowing your assignment and getting there on time.  The defensive end and strike must be able to set the edge. How many sacks did we have? The Dbs will need help from the d-line and linebackers. QBs can not have all day to throw.  Freshmen can make a difference. Chenoweth, Powe, Bissell, Amill, Chuma, and Zataveski all got a lot of PT. Reed had a great year as a freshman. You have some nice looking DBs coming in who want to play.

Was responding to a post that disappeared.
bethlehempard

You asked about what's going on. The Easton area is generally a quiet place.
if you're looking for nearby spots of note,
Consider these quiet places:
The Delaware Water Gap and the small town of the same name, up Route 611. It can get a bit crowded on weekends. There are trails and scenic overlooks.
Near The Gap is http://www.columcille.org. The latter is a beautiful park and shrine, affiliated with www.kirkridge.org.
Small places that are quaint and my wife loves are Clinton, N.J., 15 miles east on Route 78, and Frenchtown, N.J., about 25 miles south of Easton. Quiet places. Frenchtown, on the Delaware River, has more in the way of dining options. Clinton has a scenic bridge and a couple old mills, and a couple blocks of stores. Not much else.
In Bethlehem, http://www.steelstacks.org has a lot of livelier options. Live outdoor music and a theater showing mostly independent and non-blockbuster films.
For a quiet time, there's a Catholic shrine about 15 miles away in New Jersey,
http://www.wafusa.org/contact-us/  People of all religions go there to walk about.
Downtown Bethlehem, Main Street just north of the Lehigh River, is worth a stop. The Hotel Bethlehem has a Lafayette Room on the second floor. If the room is not in use, you can see a display of photographs focusing on the great 1920s football era.
Andy

1990honda wrote:
I believe the competition at those positions will be fierce. We know the intelligence of the players is not the problem. This 425 defense requires a lot of speed to be effective. Knowing your assignment and getting there on time.  The defensive end and strike must be able to set the edge. How many sacks did we have? The Dbs will need help front the d-line and linebackers. QBs can not have all day to throw.  Freshmen came make a difference. Chenoweth, Powe, Bissell, Amill, Chuma, and Zataveski all got a lot of PT. Reed had a great year as a freshman. You have some nice looking DBs coming in who want to play.

Was responding to a post that disappeared.


Sorry, honda, I thought maybe it would be perceived as too negative, not my intent. I do think the DB group is our biggest question mark. Talented guys like Smalley, Roberts, DJ were fixtures for the past few seasons. A fan really doesnt know what we have in the jr and soph classes; just haven't seen them much. I agree that this incoming group of DBs is special based on their film, speed and accomplishments. Congrats to Pearson winning an Ohio state championship in the 400 in a school record mid-47secs. Awesome! Mitchel's film blew us away at first glance during his recruitment. Jordan is an amazing athlete. Tough break for Dmitry with the leg injury, hope he's able to contribute. So, yeah, lots of competition back there.
killaBee

So sad to hear about Butler, he was an enforcer for the DB's and a very nice kid from the conversacions I had with him.

For the 2 years I've watched the Leopards at least 5 to 7 freshmen from each class have been major contributors on either offense or defense, and many on Special Teams.

I would suspect that this year will be the same, with a 1 and 10 season I'm not so sure where I would say is the biggest question mark. The team as a whole just needs to work hard together, trust each other and get better each day and good things will follow.
Bogus Megapardus

1990Honda - call the ticket office at Lafayette about parking passes and the like.  The general experience is that they are more than helpful and accommodating - especially for a parent who has come halfway across the country for a game.  The NCAA rules govern what the college can do for "free" but the college will do their best to help.

Remember that Lafayette always has been a national institution not simply some local college.  The non-athlete students at Lafayette come from all over the country as well, and their parents come to visit for football weekends and the like.  The college is accustomed to helping weary travelers.

Also, for a truly eclectic and "diverse" experience, check out New Hope, PA, just down the river a ways from Easton.  The countryside in Bucks County (immediately below Easton) is lined with 300-year-old stone farm houses and many of the original Quaker Friends meeting houses there are intact and nicely maintained.

Lest I forget, if there are any musicians in your family, you really have to plan a trip to the Martin Guitar Factory. It's just ten minutes from the hill in Nazareth, PA.  It's the place that was made famous in song by a group from my generation called, "The Band."
1990honda

Thanks for the information guys. Anybody keeping up with players that are there already?
Andy

Bogus Megapardus wrote:
.... a group from my generation called, "The Band."


And, in a way, we're back to Canada, eh, bogie?Wink

When I watch their youtube vids, one in particular, I can't help but think that Levon was one cool dude.

Honda, I'd like to know who's putting in summer work, but that would require about an hour and a half drive.  (I'm up near your daughter's school). So, we come here for info.  Besides your info there is Coach Phil's pic of guys surrounding Keller's plaque (which is a great thing, BTW) which I guess constitutes the group there for the early session. O-Line well repped.

Bogus Megapardus

Andy wrote:
Bogus Megapardus wrote:
.... a group from my generation called, "The Band."

And, in a way, we're back to Canada, eh, bogie? Wink


Bassist Rick Danko grew up in Haldimand, Ontario (right next to my folks in Wainfleet) so he would have been a Tiger-Cats fan, and no doubt pulling for a great Ross performance tonight. Robbie R. is in the bag for Toronto, though. Everyone else in The Band was a canuck too except for Levon Helm (who actually sang The Weight). He was raised in - you guessed it - Turkey Scratch, Arkansas.

Might have to go full Neil Young here, just to confuse the younger generation.  Laughing

True story (believe it or not) - I once got to sit in on bass with Levon Helm at a club in New Jersey, for about ten minutes. He in turn was sitting in with Professor Louie and the Crowmatix. Levon sang The Weight with Professor Louie that night. Yes, it was awesome. "I pulled into Nazareth, was feelin' about half past dead . . . "
Bogus Megapardus

Andy - that Brian Keller memorial is outstanding. What an inspiration for all who cross through those doors. "Live Like Keller." Once again, well done, Lafayette.  Exclamation

RIP #80
zenator

1990honda wrote:
Thanks for the information guys. Anybody keeping up with players that are there already?


Heard 7 freshman includes 2-3 OL, a DE, and DB. Do not know their names.
CHIP72

Hey Bogie - I thought Mario Andretti made Nazareth famous before The Band.

For the new Lafayette fans - if you go to Martin Guitars, you can also buy some good, gigantic cheesesteaks at Mivajo's Pizza very close by.

Finally, just to tie this all together (in response to a Neil Young reference up thread), during your visit you could check out some trails and/or the old canal system "down by the river" along either the Delaware and/or Lehigh Rivers in Easton.
LeopardBall10

CHIP72 wrote:

Finally, just to tie this all together (in response to a Neil Young reference up thread), during your visit you could check out some trails and/or the old canal system "down by the river" along either the Delaware and/or Lehigh Rivers in Easton.


Sure the trails are great, but that sounds like work, all that walking. I prefer to pick up on of these...


Fill the floating cooler with some of these...

Weyerbacher, an Easton original

Park at WW Transport up the river a bit and spend one of the best afternoons you can imagine floating the Delaware River. Just be sure you have a ride to pick you up in town when you make it there. By that point the last thing you will want to do (or be able to do) is carry your tube and your empties back to your car.
Andy

Sounds like fun.  Some serious ABVs in those Weyerbacher! Double Simcoe works for me.   No more free samples at the brewery Sad
Andy

zenator wrote:
1990honda wrote:
Thanks for the information guys. Anybody keeping up with players that are there already?


Heard 7 freshman includes 2-3 OL, a DE, and DB. Do not know their names.


Thanks!  Per Mr. Reinhard, Frank expects 81 players for 2nd session, which would be fantastic. PR likes Bogies cowbell app idea!

http://ramblingsfromthebench.blog...-football-useful-purpose-for.html
1990honda

Bogus Megapardus wrote:
Of course.

But given the typically serious and studious nature of the souls graduated by Lafayette over the years, it will always be more of a golf-clap crowd at Fisher. That doesn't mean we enjoy it any less.

Which raises an intriguing thought - what if everybody sets their cell phone ringers to "cow bell?" Seems like a nice accommodation.


Looks like you started something Bogus M. Andy great work on getting the information and especially the picture. Thanks PR for putting our thoughts in such a meaningful form. Now maybe we can exchange the banner of the forum to E.A.A.T. instead of a win lose record.
killaBee

Now maybe we can exchange the banner of the forum to E.A.A.T. instead of a win lose record.

I agree with you Honda.. This is a New Year!!!   Ive heard the team had a great 1st session, and pushed each other as a collective unit.  I"ll say it again and again... The Leopards will surprise alot of people this year
1990honda

Killabee you are right about the attitude of the team. They have been forged together by fire. This attitude is no accident. Work has been put in by the players, the coaches and staff (academic and athletic).

To get people to believe in you can be hard. To get people to follow you after losing so many games is even harder. Twenty five more talented players believed and are following. 81 of 88 players reporting early. That means at least 18 freshmen.
Bogus Megapardus

Why am I the only one who doesn't know what E.A.A.T. on those shirts stands for Question
1990honda

Bogus Megapardus wrote:
Why am I the only one who doesn't know what E.A.A.T. on those shirts stands for Question


Excerpt from Paul Reinhard blog:

"The job for the Leopards this season is anything but easy. The kids appear to be all in. The coaching staff  is definitely on board. The mantra for 2016 is EAAT – Effort, Attitude, Accountability, Toughness. It’ll take a perfect mixture of all four to come up with a successful final product."
1990honda

I wanted to see what the football fan forum looked like at the beginning of the forum. I found an awesome article that included these player quotes.


Maurer pointed to a common thread that ran through all three championship clubs.

''The one constant was the strong character of the individuals on the team,'' he said. ''That didn't happen by accident. That's how our coaches recruit. That's why you saw a lot of close bonds between teammates and why we've become best friends. It wasn't because we played football together, either. It's because the guys on this team are genuine and they care.''

Senior tri-captain Justin Stovall is about to demonstrate the courage, heart and commitment that helped the 2006 Lafayette team overcome incredible odds to keep its title streak alive.

Right after the 2006 football season ended, Stovall's mother, Leslie Gispanski, had kidney failure and had to be put on dialysis. Everyone in his family volunteered to be the donor.

''I just knew it was going to be me,'' said Stovall, who found out last Thursday that he was indeed the best match.

Sometime in March, Stovall will be going the University of Alabama at Birmingham hospital for more tests and to set up a date for the organ transfer.

''That's just the right thing to do,'' said Stovall, who won't be able to play any more but plans to maintain his passion for the game by coaching. ''That's what you do for family. That's something the guys in this room would do. We're a family that is going to walk together forever.''
Andy

With the commitment of Major Jordan yesterday and in view of the excellent LBs in the last class, thought I'd review some of our top LBs in the Tavani era. Something for the young guys to aspire to:

Chris Partridge '03 -    came back from ACL to captain '02 team.
                                106 tackles, 13 TFL, 5 sacks in '02
                                lead team with 17 tackles in '02 Rivalry win -
                                Leopard Lore
                                Current LB/STs Coach, The University of Michigan

Maurice Bennett '06 -  2 rings; 403 career tackles; 2x 1st All-PL
                                1st Team All-American
                                 Game saving tackle in '05 win vs Richmond -
                                 Leopard Lore
                                 '05 PL Scholar Athlete of The Year
                                 Current Wall Street banker

Blake Costanzo '06 -   2 rings; 307 career tackles, 30 TFL, 18 sacks
                                Playmaker who had huge performance in '05 Rivalry  
                                 win 10 tackles, 3 sacks - Leopard Lore
                                 7 year NFL career w/ Bills, Bears, Browns, 49ers
                                 A fan favorite in every town

Andy Romans '09 -      2 rings; 3 Rivalry wins; 326 career tackles
                                 Monster hitter - Leopard Lore
                                 2X Patriot League Defensive POY
                                 2nd Team AP All-American '08
                                 PL 25th Anniversary Team

Mark Leggiero '10 -      1 ring; 2x 1st All-PL; 293 tackles; 2 Rivalry wins

Justin Stovall '07 -       3 rings; 17 PL wins; co-captain '06 who coined
                                 the motto "Declare What Is To Be!"
                                 Forced 2 fumbles and ran 14 yds for a first down  
                                 in '04 Rivalry win (Leopard Lore)
                                 Current LB/STs Coach The Columbia University

                                 Could go on with Dion Witherspoon '06; Leroy
                                 Butler '12; Mike Boles '14; Brandon Bryant '17

There is a great Pard LB tradition. Trust me, these guys, their performances and especially their Leopard Lore moments will never be forgotten.

MAKE THE LIST!!!
1990honda

Great info. Andy. Do you have the jersey numbers?
Andy

Partridge 40
Mo B        33
Blake       36
Spoon      31
Romans    17
Stovall      54
Legg        49
Schmid     47
1990honda

We owe it to the ones who came before us and the ones who are coming after us.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uE6PwIE6RrY
The Maroon

Maurer wasn't on anybody's NFL prospect list, no camps invited him to try out, he just didn't have the downfield arm - but he was for my money the best QB we've ever had. He ALWAYS made the right read and had an amazing knack for knowing when to tuck the ball and run. Oh he had help - and anytime you label someone the "best" you have to deal with the Kirchoff/Baur/Curley fans - but in terms of what he accomplished it would be hard to make a case for anyone but Brad. A neuroscience major and every bit as smart on the field as you'd expect one to be.

Looking at the great teams of a decade ago gets me so fired up - we had a great thing going. Nobody thought we'd win titles indefinitely - but to self-inflict a wound on a great program...Made no sense.

As for the topic - a great game day atmosphere is a draw to recruits, a draw to MORE fans, and generally a positive self-perpetuating thing. I don't know if it makes a difference on a particular day - I think true football players would just as soon play in an empty barn. I heard more than a couple players comment how much fun it was to play Columbia in a flood (which led to the building of the new stadium) in front of absolutely nobody.
bethlehempard

To me, Baur will always be The Great One, and we have had a lot of top QBs. Our two current seniors-to-be also have been part of history.
Forever though, what Zach Z. did in his most improbable final game ranks as the most mind-boggling performance ever.
1990honda

We get our first opportunity to make a difference in 4 days. For anyone who watched the North Dakota and Charleston Southern game, you witnessed the twelfth man effect. We are calling all fans. Time to sound off. Time to be heard. I've taken off my analyst hat, my coaching hat, and my former player hat.

The first part of this video will help us get jump started.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVFfZeXSRDo

I think Killabee is on the bass
killaBee

I dont have a analysis hat, players hat or a coaching hat however, I do have a positive outlook for Friday.  I believe the Leopards will beat the pants off of CCSU.

I do have a pair of old butt kicking boots that I am polishing up with the perfect spit shine for the Blue Devils.
Andy

Game week!  LET'S GO!!!!!


sportfourteen

I'm flat-out excited about the start of the season.
LeopardBall10

killaBee

I heard someone say "Count down to the Beat down!"

My favorite number is 3, and 3 days to go!!

Im predicting a 45 point victory!! Leopards over the Blue Devils!!!!!

sport14, do you want a Leopard 45 point victory?
sportfourteen

@killaBee, I definitely can see a beat down.
SIDELINER

The Morning Call's preview package.

http://www.mcall.com/sports/colle...football-2016-20160830-story.html

http://www.mcall.com/sports/colle...football-2016-20160829-story.html

www.ramblingsfromthebench.blogspot.com
SixtyEighter

Opener against CCSU was the start of the Bill Russo - Frank Novak era. 51-0 was the score in our favor if I remember correctly. We can hope that history repeats itself and a similar win is the start of a redemption season.It's a long way from a sure thing however. We are a 1-10 team until we're  not.
RichH

Hope Pards can start off with a solid W. 51-0 ?? A different world now. It may well be CCSU has more schollie players than Pards with 45 athletic and need up to NCAA max of 63..

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