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Bogus Megapardus

Georgetown Pregame

Apparently Georgetown - once again - has REFUSED to permit Lafayette's play-by-play team to call this weekend's Lafayette-Georgetown game.  Gary Laubach and Mike Joseph have been FORBIDDEN ENTRY to Multi-Sport Field.  They can't even access the campus.

Gotta love those Hoyas.


Bogus Megapardus

Hoyas to date (2-3) -

St. Francis 48, Georgetown 20
Georgetown 34, Marist 7
Dartmouth 31, Georgetown 10
Georgetown 24, Columbia 16
Harvard 45, Georgetown 0

Pards will be Georgetown's homecoming opponent this weekend.  This will not be an easy game by any means.  But it is one the Pards absolutely must win.
DFW HOYA

Re: Georgetown Pregame

Bogus Megapardus wrote:
Apparently Georgetown - once again - has REFUSED to permit Lafayette's play-by-play team to call this weekend's Lafayette-Georgetown game.  Gary Laubach and Mike Joseph have been FORBIDDEN ENTRY to Multi-Sport Field.  They can't even access the campus.


As noted on the AGS board, no one is banned from Georgetown's campus.
Pard4Life

Are you serious Bogie that this is still an issue?

Will there be Internet broadcast? It's a PL game so I assume PL Netowrk will broadcast.
Franks Tanks

Probably for the best that this game isn't on TV.
Bogus Megapardus

Re: Georgetown Pregame

DFW HOYA wrote:
As noted on the AGS board, no one is banned from Georgetown's campus.

And as noted following on the AGS Board, you are incorrect.  The LSN crew has been BANNED from Georgetown.  LSN is NOT permitted by Georgetown to broadcast this weekend's game.  FiOS redux.

Pard4Life wrote:
Are you serious Bogie that this is still an issue?  Will there be Internet broadcast? It's a PL game so I assume PL Netowrk will broadcast.

Apparently the PL Network will stream the game, using Campus Insiders equipment and play-by-play talent instead.  To the best of my knowledge, the Lafayette Sports Network, its high-definition broadcast technology and equipment, and its legendary announcers, are FORBIDDEN from Multi-Sport Field.  The game won't be on local television, or on cable or satellite.  It will be stream-only with some random play-by-play guys who know little to nothing about the teams.  

That said, it might not be streamed at all.  GoLeopards.com indicates that there will be a Campus Insiders stream, at least, but GUHoyas.com shows that no video of the game will be available.

If there is a stream, I imagine it will look like some doofus holding an iPhone camera, just like at Colgate a couple of weeks ago.  Single camera, no close-ups, no replays, no telestrator and perpetually out of focus.  Suggest you take some motion sickness pills.

Thanks, Hoyas!



NB:  I'm incensed and I'm going to make an issue of this, through whatever avenues available.  It's just appalling.
Newleopardfan2

Um, I'm not opposed to public expressions of indignation, especially when directed at such a worthy target, but isn't the whole broadcast issue due to the fact that they are rebuilding the broadcast booth at GT and meanwhile the broadcasts are coming from temporary quarters that can't house two broadcast teams? Or is that just rumors spread by their PR division?
DFW HOYA

"All 11 contests will be streamed live worldwide by the Lafayette Sports Network and GoLeopards.com on the Patriot League Network."

Yes, it's on the PL Network and has been scheduled since the beginning of the season.

http://www.goleopards.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/090515aab.html

The facts: the press "box" at MSF has an area literally atop the boxes for about three setups: one for the GU coaches (who used to use a dorm room window before they added a third box), one for the Lafayette coaches, and one for a production setup. If the PL Network is doing the game, there is no room, nor is it safe, frankly, to put more equipment up there than is absolutely required. There are no such facilities on the visitor's side, whose wooden bleachers have never been updated since they debuted as a stopgap for the Brown game on Sept. 17, 2005.

The three camera positions can be seen in the following photo.

https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8295/7991738335_24f6b8d53b_b.jpg
NewXbo

Hell, its not that far, I'll probably drive down.
Bogus Megapardus

Newleopardfan2 wrote:
Um, I'm not opposed to public expressions of indignation, especially when directed at such a worthy target, but isn't the whole broadcast issue due to the fact that they are rebuilding the broadcast booth at GT and meanwhile the broadcasts are coming from temporary quarters that can't house two broadcast teams? Or is that just rumors spread by their PR division?


They've been "rebuilding the broadcast booth" for the last 10 years.
Bogus Megapardus

DFW HOYA wrote:
there is no room, nor is it safe, frankly, to put more equipment up there than is absolutely required.


The Lafayette Sports Network, its equipment and its talent, are "absolutely required."  Any PL football broadcast is "unsafe" when left in the hands of Georgetown alone - as past experience shows. And those are the facts.
DFW HOYA

Bogus Megapardus wrote:

The Lafayette Sports Network, its equipment and its talent, are "absolutely required."  Any PL football broadcast is "unsafe" when left in the hands of Georgetown alone - as past experience shows. And those are the facts.


This will all take care of itself when Frank Tavani retires in 2022 and becomes PL commissioner.
bethlehempard

Ouch... And thanks to Frank for all he's done in a difficult spot.
With all the Georgetown wealth when is somebody going to pay the $25 million or so needed to put a graduate's name on multi-sport generic turf unnamed field?
How about Redstone Stadium! Except he left for Harvard.
One undisputed bonus for Lafayette, alumni past and present have come up big for their school.
flyfisher

Why am I getting the impression I am going to a middle school field/stadium?
Pard4Life

flyfisher wrote:
Why am I getting the impression I am going to a middle school field/stadium?


You are. Albeit one with nice gates.
bethlehempard

Wikipedia:

Multi-Sport Field is a 2,500-seat multi-purpose stadium in Washington, D.C. on the campus of Georgetown University. The field was originally used for intramurals and was adopted for soccer in 1994 as Harbin Field. The name, a placeholder pending final construction,[citation needed] was changed to reflect the football team's use of the field starting in 2003.

I can't recall when Georgetown moved to 1AA football. They were in D3 after reviving the sport. Probably the NCAA rule on basketball forced the move.

Howard's stadium is much bigger.

Enough though The Hoyas are a fine league member.

***Old RFK is still around. I don't know why. I saw it when taking my wife to an art museum, to my surprise.
Give it a shot, Hoyas.
DFW HOYA

bethlehempard wrote:

I can't recall when Georgetown moved to 1AA football. They were in D3 after reviving the sport. Probably the NCAA rule on basketball forced the move.


Major College Independent 1887-1950
No football 1951-63
Club 1964-69
Division II Independent 1970-72
Division III Independent 1973-92
Division I-AA/MAAC 1993-99
Division I-AA Independent 2000
Division I-AA/PL 2001-present
LeopardBall10

flyfisher wrote:
Why am I getting the impression I am going to a middle school field/stadium?


Oh... you have no idea. It really is amazing. Although, I can't decide what is the most charming "quirk" of Multi-Sport Field. The name? The ability to sit in the top row, stand up, and block the coach's view of the field? The bathroom trailer? So many things that will just blow your mind. I really can't wait to get your reaction after.
Franks Tanks

MSF is a major upgrade over old Kehoe Field. That "field" was situated on the roof of a building, and best I can tell they just painted some concrete green.

SIDELINER

LeopardBall10 wrote:
flyfisher wrote:
Why am I getting the impression I am going to a middle school field/stadium?


Oh... you have no idea. It really is amazing. Although, I can't decide what is the most charming "quirk" of Multi-Sport Field. The name? The ability to sit in the top row, stand up, and block the coach's view of the field? The bathroom trailer? So many things that will just blow your mind. I really can't wait to get your reaction after.


Aw, nuts, LeopardBall10 went and spoiled the surprise! "Bathroom trailer"  is a generous description of Port-a-Johns. The concession "stand" is also really special. Middle schools would be ashamed to host a college football game at this place. Wagner was the Taj Mahal by comparison, especially with the view of the Verrazano Narrows Bridge. I think there was a time when coaches used a room in an adjacent dormitory to watch the game.  I'm really sorry you'll miss the roof-field. They used to have several varieties of paint-splattered folding chairs for press box seating. No football-playing student-athlete chooses G-town for its facilities, for sure.
Bogus Megapardus

Week 6 Sportsbook:

Harvard (-23) at Cornell o/u 53

Bucknell (-5) vs. Lehigh o/u 45

Princeton (-7) vs Colgate o/u 51

Fordham (-11½) at Penn o/u 62

Holy Cross (-7) vs. Brown o/u 55

Dartmouth (-12½) vs. Yale o/u 49

Lafayette (-1½) at Georgetown o/u 40

Wagner (-1) at Columbia o/u 42

*   *   *   *   *   *   *   *

Other Games of Interest:

Delaware (-16) at Rhode Island o/u 44

William & Mary (-2) at Villanova o/u 44

Albany (-6) vs. Maine o/u 45

James Madison (-12) at Towson o/u 63
Pard4Life

Losing this game will bring about the apocalypse around here.

Gtown is no cupcake (relative to us) and should be treated as such. Hope the team realizes that.
SixtyEighter

This is a game we could very well lose- Lafayette and Georgetown are virtually tied with a miserable 31+ Sagarin rating and this parity is reflected in the line notwithstanding a presumed 3 point home advantage. For Sagarin home field is worth 2.75 points.It should be recalled however that we have three years of scholarships to Georgetown's zero scholarships.Also we have lost to Georgetown before usually in a down year like this one.
Franks Tanks

Pard4Life wrote:
Losing this game will bring about the apocalypse around here.

Gtown is no cupcake (relative to us) and should be treated as such. Hope the team realizes that.


Nobody is a cupcake for the Pards in 2015. I will not be surprised at all if Georgetown wins this week.  Disappointed for sure, but not surprised in the least.  Unfortunately I won't be shocked if we don't win another game for the rest of the year.  I desperately hope we win a few more games this year, but we need to play much better for that to occur.

I hate to say it, but he 2015 edition is among the weaker Pard teams I have witnessed.  I would say the 2001 and 2010 editions were the others who stunk up the joint to a similar degree.  The 2001 team was very young, and the Frank turned it around in 2002, and won his 1st league championship in 2004.  The 2010 team was just low on talent.  Thankfully the 2015 team is more like the 2001 team (I think)- young guys with talent who just need some seasoning.  

I will root for the Pards the rest of the way as I always do.  I am however not going to get upset when they lose, as it is expected at this point.  If we notch another victory or two I will be happy for the players, especially the seniors, so that they can taste victory another time of two as a college football player.
BillS

Franks Tanks wrote:
Pard4Life wrote:
Losing this game will bring about the apocalypse around here.

Gtown is no cupcake (relative to us) and should be treated as such. Hope the team realizes that.


Nobody is a cupcake for the Pards in 2015. I will not be surprised at all if Georgetown wins this week.  Disappointed for sure, but not surprised in the least.  Unfortunately I won't be shocked if we don't win another game for the rest of the year.  I desperately hope we win a few more games this year, but we need to play much better for that to occur.

I hate to say it, but he 2015 edition is among the weaker Pard teams I have witnessed.  I would say the 2001 and 2010 editions were the others who stunk up the joint to a similar degree.  The 2001 team was very young, and the Frank turned it around in 2002, and won his 1st league championship in 2004.  The 2010 team was just low on talent.  Thankfully the 2015 team is more like the 2001 team (I think)- young guys with talent who just need some seasoning.  

I will root for the Pards the rest of the way as I always do.  I am however not going to get upset when they lose, as it is expected at this point.  If we notch another victory or two I will be happy for the players, especially the seniors, so that they can taste victory another time of two as a college football player.
If we can get by GTOWN and some of our injured players get healthy we should be competitive with everyone but Harvard.
Bogus Megapardus

I have the Georgetown-Columbia game replay on the Ivy Network (yes, I actually subscribe).  Hoyas used a lot of screens and misdirection behind their no-huddle.  

Georgetown had just 65 net yards rushing on 33 attempts, averaging 2.0 yards per carry.  On the other hand, they averaged 12.1 yards per pass completion.

So we know they are going to pass the ball out of their now-familiar no-huddle shotgun.  No matter what else, our secondary is going to have to prevent this sort of thing - Midway through the third G'Town had been keeping Columbia's D tighter and tighter to contain the short stuff, when all of a sudden the the Hoya QB heaved a nice long ball to #5 on a go route, catching the Columbia secondary completely off guard.

The Hoyas were at their 20 immediately following a Columbia score and a missed PAT.  First and 10, Georgetown lined up in shotgun, single back, TE on the left, WRs split and a SLOT on the right.  The Columbia D was base 4-3 with an OLB on the SLOT, CBs playing press and safeties split on the numbers 10 yards off.  The QB went play action, rolled to his right, took a few stutter steps to buy a couple seconds, and chucked it from his own 13 to the right side WR who caught it at the Lions' 40 and ran in untouched for an 80 yard TD.  There was no defender within 10 yards of him.

Just sayin' . . .  Rolling Eyes
flyfisher

This team is the best, and the worst of the Pards all at one time.

I know these kids,  the ones playing and the ones unable to play. As we are today we are not very good. We lost almost all our leadership, especially the two keys ones in Keller and Brockman. Current captains are doing a good job but it takes an army. The injuries have been devastating. At one point that great defense we thought we had only had 4 starters off the camp roster. We don't even have a scout team. So you guys are right. We are not very good right now. Things have snowballed.

On the other side, I see what we could have been, and I see what we can be. We are playing a lot of inexperienced kids right now.  There is talent out there. We signed some good o linemen, receivers, db's, d linemen, kicker. The last two classes have been very good. It's painful today but I know we will be better in the long run for these trials.

I see a great infrastructure in football at LC. It's a great college. Hopefully our leadership sees this and capitalizes on the opportunities.
Bogus Megapardus

flyfisher wrote:
I see a great infrastructure in football at LC. It's a great college. Hopefully our leadership sees this and capitalizes on the opportunities.

I think you're right, fly.  Lafayette football is a tradition miles and miles long.  It's not going away and it's not going to get less emphasis.  I mean, look at the facilities dedicated simply to football.  And then walk around campus and you'd think it was a mega-university, not a 2,400-student engineering/science/liberal arts college.  There just aren't a lot of places that can match it, let alone come even close.

When Fordham started its full scholarship program in earnest they weren't very good.  In fact they were bad.  It took a couple years after full implementation for the Rams to rise to the top.  That, and a new coach with FBS experience and strong ties to the college.

I like to think we're just experiencing growing pains right now. In fact I know we're experiencing growing pains.  Is it coaching?  Personnel?  Scheme not matching the talent?  Administration?  Academic demands?  

Yes to all of the above but we just have to work it all out.  Our head coach is who he is.  He's not going anywhere unless he wants to and with good reason - he took this program from the brink of near extinction, helped usher in unparalleled new facilities and pushed for scholarships.  They're going to name stuff after him some day and deservedly so.

Team morale has to be pretty low right now.  A strong showing at Georgetown combining individual effort with successful implementation of the scheme certainly will help ratify what the staff is preaching and the effort the guys are putting in.

We've been better, for sure.  But we've been a lot worse.

GO PARDS - and be prepared for the long ball Saturday Rolling Eyes
SIDELINER

Here's Paul Reinhard's story from the Tuesday luncheon.

http://www.mcall.com/sports/colle...ball-luncheon-20151006-story.html

Nothing yet from Brad Wilson.
ed65

Another injury: this time it is TE Wadsworth for three weeks.  The number of injuries are unbelievable.
flyfisher

Almost all our injuries in our own field. At some point you have to ask the question. On the flip side, our staff holds the kids out for minor issues.
BillS

flyfisher wrote:
Almost all our injuries in our own field. At some point you have to ask the question. On the flip side, our staff holds the kids out for minor issues.
Wadsworth injury didn't seem serious hmmm
flyfisher

BillS wrote:
flyfisher wrote:
Almost all our injuries in our own field. At some point you have to ask the question. On the flip side, our staff holds the kids out for minor issues.
Wadsworth injury didn't seem serious hmmm


Not at all. He was stretching, running all out and cutting at halftime with the trainer. So many injuries are soft tissue injuries.

This leaves us 2 TE's, DiPietro and Q. Smith. And DiPietro did not practice all week last week and was listed as out but still played on Saturday. The freshmen are injured as well.
Pardsfriend

Pards

Playing with minor injuries is part of the game at every level.  FBS, FCS, and all divisions.

 My son played at Lafayette in lax, and we had far fewer injuries playing on the Fisher field turf.  Granted, the contact isn't as severe and consistent. But it begs the question as to why we sustain injuries given our full-time staff dedicated to strength conditioning.
flyfisher

Full time staff? We only have 2 trainers and one strength guy.
Bogus Megapardus

SIDELINER wrote:
Here's Paul Reinhard's story from the Tuesday luncheon.

http://www.mcall.com/sports/colle...ball-luncheon-20151006-story.html


"I don't know what it is about us they don't like, but they get fired up for us probably more than any game of the year," Tavani said.

Who knew?
bethlehempard

Bourger/Fisher/Kirby Envy might explain it.
MSF. It sounds like a disease.
Bogus Megapardus

bethlehempard wrote:
Bourger/Fisher/Kirby Envy might explain it.

MSF. It sounds like a disease.


If it has anything to do with all the grief we've given them (here and on AGS) over the years about the "FiOS Incident," we ought to be very proud. Wink

It's just incredulous that they're pulling that crap again this Saturday.



BTW - in case you didn't hear, Georgetown just got a $50 million alumnus donation to athletics.  A large chunk of that is earmarked to "finish" Multi-Sport Field.

http://www.georgetown.edu/athletics-leadership-cooper-gift
pardfan

Bogus Megapardus wrote:
SIDELINER wrote:
Here's Paul Reinhard's story from the Tuesday luncheon.

http://www.mcall.com/sports/colle...ball-luncheon-20151006-story.html


"I don't know what it is about us they don't like, but they get fired up for us probably more than any game of the year," Tavani said.

Who knew?


Have t'pay yer dues if y'wanna sing the blues
NewXbo

From the E-T

lehighvalleylive.com/lafayette/index.ssf/2015/10/5_keys_to_lafayette_at_georget.html#incart_river
Bogus Megapardus

Just to fix Xbo's link to the Brad Wilson piece -

http://www.lehighvalleylive.com/l...keys_to_lafayette_at_georget.html

A Frankosaurus Chalkboard's-worth!
bethlehempard

Brad Wilson does a great job. It's unfortunate that the Express has moved away from game stories in favor of series of paragraphs with cute little headlines such as "What It Means" and "Turning Point" etc etc rather than actual stories.
rjphog

Earily quiet this morning...or is everyone enroute to DC?
Pards Rule

bethlehempard wrote:
Ouch... And thanks to Frank for all he's done in a difficult spot.
With all the Georgetown wealth when is somebody going to pay the $25 million or so needed to put a graduate's name on multi-sport generic turf unnamed field?
How about Redstone Stadium! Except he left for Harvard.
One undisputed bonus for Lafayette, alumni past and present have come up big for their school.


Maybe billionaire Sanford Weill's wife, Joan,  can donate the $20 million she was going to give to Adirondack located, finally struggling Paul Smith College to rename it for her! That was vetoed by a court as the original deed giving the land to the college said it would have to be named for the gentleman's father, Paul Smith, in perpetuity.
http://money.cnn.com/2015/08/18/n...eill-paul-smith-college-donation/
adcs2

Brad Wilson does a great job. It's unfortunate that the Express has moved away from game stories in favor of series of paragraphs with cute little headlines such as "What It Means" and "Turning Point" etc etc rather than actual stories.

This approach actually takes away from strong writers such as Brad Wilson. His unique ability to craft a story ends up being chopped up into these vignettes so they can trick readers into giving lehighvallelleylive (and their advertisers) four clicks instead of one.

I know privately Brad is probably not pleased at this edict, but he is too much of a pro to ever say anything publicly.

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