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Mariners

Housing Lottery

Kid just went through the lottery process to get a room for next year.  Experience was a little trip to the DMV - a little visit to the dentist.

Turns out kid and roomie had such bad lottery numbers there are no available rooms, as of now, for next academic year but were encouraged to get on the waiting list in hopes something might open up by late July.  They were not the only losers in the hosuing roulette.

I saw this as a welcome opportunity to obtain off campus housing (1000% nicer at a fraction of the cost) but wife was informed this was not an option as the Housing Nazi, er employee, proceeded with a lecture on the ethics violations an off campus move like this would represent.

I realize complete utilization of on-campus housing is of paramount importance to the College as these prison cells do command confiscatory rates and represent an annual economic windfall for the landlords.

Still doesn't sit right with me they can claim 'no room at the inn' yet are able to hold one hostage in the event a broom closet becomes available.  

Also not thrilled at the very 'public sector' level of customer service from this private College.

I imagine all of this could have easily been avoided if we had a "transgendered with gluton allergy" card to play.

Is this an annual rite of passage for rising sophmores or a one-time anomoly?
bethlehempard

It's all about the bottom line and credit ratings. The last time I looked, Lafayette took in about 70 percent of its revenue in tuition, fees and auxiliary expenses. The rest came from endowment and investment return and then, gifts. (I will try to determine current numbers).
All schools with dorms seek to fill them. A few years ago Moravian College added a dorm, then decided the school was "a community of scholars" or whatever. It told students to move in.
As for Lafayette having a lot of money on an endowment-per student-basis, yes it does but it's not about to start yielding, on yield.
There was no requirement to live on-campus in my days, but we had fraternities, mostly on campus, and that was the best option.
LeopardBall10

I remember the housing lottery like it was yesterday, although it was a few years ago now. And the process went through some changes in my time there. My freshman and sophomore years all of the college-owned houses on the hill were part of the lottery and open for the top picks. If you had a terrible pick you usually tried to have a roommate with a good one. As a football player you had better odds because someone on the team was going to have a good number, and then you just had to make friends, lol. They also allowed people to live off campus in privately-owned houses if an application was filled out.

By my Junior year they all but eliminated the ability to live in a private off campus house. You had to fill out an application and out of that pool about 3 or 4 groups were given permission based on grades, behavior, aid money, etc. And the process changed for the college owned houses too. A separate lottery was held for the high academic students before the regular lottery. So, students with GPAs over 3.5 took all of the houses off campus. Now, most of the houses are interest houses so the number of options are almost nill. I can only imagine what the lottery would look like now with the only real options being the new "dorms"/apartments on March st. and the Fishers. But, you get the right group of guys in the 7 man suite in Fisher East and you're going to have a good time.
Franks Tanks

How times have changed.

Most upperclassmen, who wanted to, were able to live in a frat house or college or private owned off campus house.  Forcing upperclassmen to live in a dorm is just wrong.

Question for the younger guys.  Where do upperclassmen desire to live if they can't get off campus?  Watson Courts, Kirby, the new dorms?
flyfisher

Re: Housing Lottery

Mariners wrote:
Kid just went through the lottery process to get a room for next year.  Experience was a little trip to the DMV - a little visit to the dentist.

Turns out kid and roomie had such bad lottery numbers there are no available rooms, as of now, for next academic year but were encouraged to get on the waiting list in hopes something might open up by late July.  They were not the only losers in the hosuing roulette.

I saw this as a welcome opportunity to obtain off campus housing (1000% nicer at a fraction of the cost) but wife was informed this was not an option as the Housing Nazi, er employee, proceeded with a lecture on the ethics violations an off campus move like this would represent.

I realize complete utilization of on-campus housing is of paramount importance to the College as these prison cells do command confiscatory rates and represent an annual economic windfall for the landlords.

Still doesn't sit right with me they can claim 'no room at the inn' yet are able to hold one hostage in the event a broom closet becomes available.  

Also not thrilled at the very 'public sector' level of customer service from this private College.

I imagine all of this could have easily been avoided if we had a "transgendered with gluton allergy" card to play.

Is this an annual rite of passage for rising sophmores or a one-time anomoly?


Same thing happened to my son after his freshman and his sophmore year. He also had to get pulled up with a teammate that had a higher number.

There will be a dorm space for your son and it will not be a broom closet. my son had to move this year due to his roommate getting mono. In fact he had to move twice. Both times they were single rooms and the rooms were better. They are holding a few rooms back, they have to do this. You will be fine but i understand the pain in the butt this is as well as the stress.

I fully understand how the college needs to book all the dorm space. I get that. It is very difficult to get off campus housing now. that really is like winning the lottery.

As to the level of service, we have experienced the exact same attitudes except in the registration office. they have ben wonderful several times. Many other departments are, to put it simply, very rude. they do not do much for creating a good impression. They make you ask the question, why would i donate money to these people? The service level is like dealing with Time Warner Cable, Comcast, or Walmart.

Bottom line, you will get something and it will not be as bad as you think. Its just a pain. Sorry you have to go through this but we chalked it up as part of the college experience. Other schools have similar issues.
flyfisher

Franks Tanks wrote:
How times have changed.

Most upperclassmen, who wanted to, were able to live in a frat house or college or private owned off campus house.  Forcing upperclassmen to live in a dorm is just wrong.

Question for the younger guys.  Where do upperclassmen desire to live if they can't get off campus?  Watson Courts, Kirby, the new dorms?


Watson, kirby, Fisher and the new dorms are the hot spots. A few have been renovated. The old Chi Phi house is very nice but it is used or overflow. the frats are nice, whats left of them. Avoid Rouf and anything similar at all costs.
leopard88

Stay out of McKeen basement.  They don't even have phone jacks in the rooms!!!!

At least they didn't in 1984.   Razz
2012Pard

Franks Tanks wrote:
Question for the younger guys.  Where do upperclassmen desire to live if they can't get off campus?  Watson Courts, Kirby, the new dorms?


Watson Courts are convenient, but they're also pretty gross.  Last I heard, the college was planning to replace them.

Fisher suites are a popular choice.  I had a 2-person suite my senior year.  Spacious bedroom, large bathroom, decent kitchen and living room for two guys.  We were right next door to those three football players who got suspended for smoking weed at the beginning of the 2011 season.  They hadn't made any effort to keep the smoke in their unit, and ended up stinking up the whole damn building.

Rubin was popular for people who wanted singles.  It's another one of the buildings down by the Fishers.

As far as standard 2-person dorm rooms go, my favorite was probably Keefe, where I lived for my junior year.  Roughly behind South, right at the edge of the hill.  It was clean and quiet, everything was pretty new and not broken yet.  The building was mostly occupied by special interest floors, but there was one wing of one floor that was available to everyone.
Franks Tanks

2012Pard wrote:
Franks Tanks wrote:
Question for the younger guys.  Where do upperclassmen desire to live if they can't get off campus?  Watson Courts, Kirby, the new dorms?


Watson Courts are convenient, but they're also pretty gross.  Last I heard, the college was planning to replace them.

Fisher suites are a popular choice.  I had a 2-person suite my senior year.  Spacious bedroom, large bathroom, decent kitchen and living room for two guys.  We were right next door to those three football players who got suspended for smoking weed at the beginning of the 2011 season.  They hadn't made any effort to keep the smoke in their unit, and ended up stinking up the whole damn building.

Rubin was popular for people who wanted singles.  It's another one of the buildings down by the Fishers.

As far as standard 2-person dorm rooms go, my favorite was probably Keefe, where I lived for my junior year.  Roughly behind South, right at the edge of the hill.  It was clean and quiet, everything was pretty new and not broken yet.  The building was mostly occupied by special interest floors, but there was one wing of one floor that was available to everyone.


Thanks.

There were rumors that the "courts" would be replaced way back when I was in school as well.  They are in desperate need of a refresh (or destruction).

I always liked McKeen as it was close to everything I cared about- food @ Farinon and beer @ campus!
Pard4Life

leopard88 wrote:
Stay out of McKeen basement.  They don't even have phone jacks in the rooms!!!!

At least they didn't in 1984.   Razz


LOL!!  I came after you 88 and the joke was always "at least we didn't get McKeen basement"
Pard4Life

Re: Housing Lottery

Mariners wrote:
Kid just went through the lottery process to get a room for next year.  Experience was a little trip to the DMV - a little visit to the dentist.

Turns out kid and roomie had such bad lottery numbers there are no available rooms, as of now, for next academic year but were encouraged to get on the waiting list in hopes something might open up by late July.  They were not the only losers in the hosuing roulette.

I saw this as a welcome opportunity to obtain off campus housing (1000% nicer at a fraction of the cost) but wife was informed this was not an option as the Housing Nazi, er employee, proceeded with a lecture on the ethics violations an off campus move like this would represent.

I realize complete utilization of on-campus housing is of paramount importance to the College as these prison cells do command confiscatory rates and represent an annual economic windfall for the landlords.

Still doesn't sit right with me they can claim 'no room at the inn' yet are able to hold one hostage in the event a broom closet becomes available.  

Also not thrilled at the very 'public sector' level of customer service from this private College.

I imagine all of this could have easily been avoided if we had a "transgendered with gluton allergy" card to play.

Is this an annual rite of passage for rising sophmores or a one-time anomoly?


Several good points.

Re: customer service.  It's not a job, it's position. No competition, no incentive to up your game.

I seriously would not worry about the room... we had the same issue... my roommate and I had really low numbers heading into soph year and we ended up choosing singles provisionally but still applied for a room together.  Kept in touch with housing and we ended up with a room that was huge and in a new dorm with AC.  I seriously think it was the largest room on campus.  Talk about losers luck.  Just keep working with them, something always opens up.
LeopardBall10

Pard4Life wrote:
leopard88 wrote:
Stay out of McKeen basement.  They don't even have phone jacks in the rooms!!!!

At least they didn't in 1984.   Razz


LOL!!  I came after you 88 and the joke was always "at least we didn't get McKeen basement"


HA! My sophomore year a group of 12 of us football players all had terrible picks. We were all close and wanted to live together. So, we picked the one place we knew would still have that many rooms together late in the lottery, McKeen basement. By the time it was all said and done a few other pairs joined our group from other teams. It was great, we were close to each other, close to food and beer, and no one ever wanted to bother us. I think the RAs purposefully ignored our floor and we were ok with that.
leopard88

LeopardBall10 wrote:
Pard4Life wrote:
leopard88 wrote:
Stay out of McKeen basement.  They don't even have phone jacks in the rooms!!!!

At least they didn't in 1984.   Razz


LOL!!  I came after you 88 and the joke was always "at least we didn't get McKeen basement"


HA! My sophomore year a group of 12 of us football players all had terrible picks. We were all close and wanted to live together. So, we picked the one place we knew would still have that many rooms together late in the lottery, McKeen basement. By the time it was all said and done a few other pairs joined our group from other teams. It was great, we were close to each other, close to food and beer, and no one ever wanted to bother us. I think the RAs purposefully ignored our floor and we were ok with that.


At least you were close to food.  In 1984, lunch and dinner meant walking to Marquis.

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