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Pard4Life

ILL Pre-season Magazine

Lafayette is picked 30 out of 61 D-I teams, Bauer pre-season All-American Honorable Mention.  Army and Bucknell are in the preseason Top 20, and I think Navy is ranked ahead of us...

We play an identical schedule to last year.  Looks like our defense will be solid and there will be some competition in net. A frosh was cited as being an impact player on groundballs who should contribute right away.
Andy

http://www.laxpower.com/laxnews/news.php?story=21438
Pard4Life

This was supposed to be a feel-good thread Andy!!!
Bogus Megapardus

Pards will do a lot better than people think.  We will compete for the PL championship and possibly an at large if Navy or Bucknell gets the auto-bid.

Of course, I'm biased and lacrosse has been my life for more than 25 years, but who's counting?
cr

Pard4Life wrote:
This was supposed to be a feel-good thread Andy!!!


Andy calls 'em as he sees them, which makes him a valuable poster.
Andy

No intent to foul the mood, p4l, just thought lax followers might find the enemy camp activity interesting.  

I bought into the hype last year, traveled to see them struggle at marist and lose at home to the evil empire and Army.  I'm not sold on the program turnaround just yet, hopefully the early successes weren't just a product of a solid senior class.  Bogie's optimism is encouraging.  There does seem to be an uptick in recruiting for 2011 class, last year's publicity paying off.

Thanks, cr. "Perspicacious" was one thing, but "valuable" might be a little much for my fellow posters to accept.  Smile
Bogus Megapardus

Not a lot of schools, comparatively, award full merit lacrosse scholarships.  A couple more each season, perhaps (Penn State seems to want to dominate in this regard) but the PL still gets the kids who love the game and who have lacrosse in their blood.  Trust me, I know - having lacrosse in your system and playing for a hallowed coach is more important to a recruit than having a full ride at some school with no lacrosse tradition.  Lafayette *has* a lacrosse tradition.  That matters.

For now, then, the difference is coaching. Mangan stayed on despite offers elsewhere, but we lost our best assistants.  Lafayette does not pay enough for full-time assistants to stay on board - especially following an outstanding campaign such as we had last year.

For the time being we can excel in Division I lacrosse even without scholarships but we have to have both coaching continuity and the ability to attract high-profile coaching talent.  If Bryant College can do it, we can as well.
Franks Tanks

Bogus Megapardus wrote:
Not a lot of schools, comparatively, award full merit lacrosse scholarships.  A couple more each season, perhaps (Penn State seems to want to dominate in this regard) but the PL still gets the kids who love the game and who have lacrosse in their blood.  Trust me, I know - having lacrosse in your system and playing for a hallowed coach is more important to a recruit than having a full ride at some school with no lacrosse tradition.  Lafayette *has* a lacrosse tradition.  That matters.

For now, then, the difference is coaching. Mangan stayed on despite offers elsewhere, but we lost our best assistants.  Lafayette does not pay enough for full-time assistants to stay on board - especially following an outstanding campaign such as we had last year.

For the time being we can excel in Division I lacrosse even without scholarships but we have to have both coaching continuity and the ability to attract high-profile coaching talent.  If Bryant College can do it, we can as well.


I am a relative newcomer as far as Lacrosse goes as nobody within 100 miles of my hometown played the game--I am still learning.  However I understand the vast majority of Lacrosse talent still comes from a few rather small geographic areas, and Lacrosse players tend to be pretty well off.  This may be a generalization, and feel free to let me know if my understanding is incorrect.  With that being said Lafayette should be a very attractive place to play Lacrosse.  Many well off kids from the Lacrosse hotbeds desire to go to schools like Lafayette, and the tuition is not a burden for their parents.  We can probably field a perennial top 20 team without scholarships.

As you say the key appears to be coaching.  Realistically how much more would it cost to pay quality assistants a living wage?  Pay the top assistant 55k and the 2nd assistant 40k (or whatever a decent going rate is for assistants). That may be enough to retain good assistants until they move up the ladder after a few years, and give us a high quality program.  Increasing the budget perhaps 40k a year can keep quality coaches and make us a high quality lacrosse school.  Is this unrealistic?
Lafalum

As far as our leadership is concerned.  I wouldn't be surprised if that isn't higher than some of our Head Coaches get!

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