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Bogus Megapardus

Lafayette vs. Colgate Pre-Game

Week 10 Sportsbook:

Dartmouth (-35) vs. Cornell o/u 49

Penn (-3˝) vs. Princeton o/u 67

Holy Cross (-3˝) at Lehigh o/u 57

Yale (-1˝) vs. Brown o/u 60

Fordham (-19) vs. Bucknell o/u 58

Colgate (-13˝) at Lafayette o/u 40

Harvard (-27) at Columbia o/u 37

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Other Games of Interest:

Delaware (-10) vs. Albany o/u 39

William & Mary (-1Cool at Elon o/u 41

Villanova (-14˝) at Rhode Island o/u 38

Richmond (-6˝) at New Hampshire o/u 65

Towson (-3˝) at Maine o/u 38

The Citadel (-24) vs. VMI o/u 62
Bogus Megapardus

Would you guys prefer a Wheel of Excuses this week, or a Frankie Chalkboard?  This game deserves one of them.

Also any custom request will be considered provided I have a few days to cobble something together.
flyfisher

Maybe just the truth. We got a few players back last week and it showed. May get a couple more back this week.
ed65

flyfisher wrote:
Maybe just the truth. We got a few players back last week and it showed. May get a couple more back this week.


Getting back the injured players - just in time for Lehigh would be a blessing.
LeopardBall10

I wonder if the spoiler role is going to agree with this team. It seems like every year the PL favorite (Fordham for recent examples) has lost one they shouldn't. And eventually the rest of the league cannibalizes each other.

Gate has a few tough games left to play after this week (Lehigh and Bucknell), Fordham has Bucknell and GTown, and the down brown have HC, Gate, and The Rivalry. Anyone see Gate running the table, finishing 7-4, and taking the Autobid from Fordham? Lehigh has the toughest road to hoe, but if they win out they get a peice of the title at 7-4 (and would miss the playoffs because Fordham won the head-to-head).
bison137

LeopardBall10 wrote:


Gate has a few tough games left to play after this week (Lehigh and Bucknell), Fordham has Bucknell and GTown, and the down brown have HC, Gate, and The Rivalry. Anyone see Gate running the table, finishing 7-4, and taking the Autobid from Fordham? Lehigh has the toughest road to hoe, but if they win out they get a peice of the title at 7-4 (and would miss the playoffs because Fordham won the head-to-head).
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If Lehigh runs the table - which I doubt will happen - that could set up a 3-way tie where their head-to-head loss wouldn't be the tiebreaker. In that scenario, it would come down to a vote of AD's
Pard4Life

Bogus Megapardus wrote:
Would you guys prefer a Wheel of Excuses this week, or a Frankie Chalkboard?  This game deserves one of them.

Also any custom request will be considered provided I have a few days to cobble something together.


Bruce the indifferent far walrus or Bruce the squirrel. I think he looks best as a scarecrow though... Obvious reasons..

Bruce needs to make a guest appearance with the wheel and Frank gets the chalkboard. We "made progress" last week so there a more "positive feelings" about the Colgate game
Bogus Megapardus

Pard4Life wrote:
We "made progress" last week so there a more "positive feelings" about the Colgate game


How about Frankosaurus Buzzword Bingo cards with the standard applied euphemisms?

- "made progress"

- "positive feelings"

Others?
SIDELINER

Kern and Miller rejoin the offensive line, which is good for them. But Edmonds got only 51 yards against Colgate last week. That's bad.

And, can the LC defense keep Melville from killing them with arm and legs? Stop Melville, you stop Colgate offense. Simply said, not so simply done.
ed65

SIDELINER wrote:
Kern and Miller rejoin the offensive line, which is good for them. But Edmonds got only 51 yards against Colgate last week. That's bad.

And, can the LC defense keep Melville from killing them with arm and legs? Stop Melville, you stop Colgate offense. Simply said, not so simply done.


The LC Defensive Coach supposedly knows how to stop this kind of offense.
Pard4Life

ed65 wrote:
SIDELINER wrote:
Kern and Miller rejoin the offensive line, which is good for them. But Edmonds got only 51 yards against Colgate last week. That's bad.

And, can the LC defense keep Melville from killing them with arm and legs? Stop Melville, you stop Colgate offense. Simply said, not so simply done.


The LC Defensive Coach supposedly knows how to stop this kind of offense.


Carney stop posting under two names.
Pard4Life

Bogus Megapardus wrote:
Pard4Life wrote:
We "made progress" last week so there a more "positive feelings" about the Colgate game


How about Frankosaurus Buzzword Bingo cards with the standard applied euphemisms?

- "made progress"

- "positive feelings"

Others?


"Learning experience"

"One battle at a time"

"It's a game of inches"

"We will keep battling"

"We will get ready for the next one"
Bogus Megapardus

Pard4Life wrote:
"Learning experience"

"One battle at a time"

"It's a game of inches"

"We will keep battling"

"We will get ready for the next one"


Nice.

One spot has to be reserved for Frank's standard opening response to any question asked of him:

"Well . . . "
edge29

Bogus Megapardus wrote:
Pard4Life wrote:
"Learning experience"

"One battle at a time"

"It's a game of inches"

"We will keep battling"

"We will get ready for the next one"


Nice.

One spot has to be reserved for Frank's standard opening response to any question asked of him:

"Well . . . "


"Certainly. . .(fill in the blank)".
pardfan

"always count on defense to help you win championships"
"It's a long season"
"It's no secret..."
"tryin' to do what we can"
"we're handling adversity"
"all we're focusing on now is..."
"we're not at the point we wanted to be"
"those things are certainly frustrating"
"you sign up for an eleven game season"

and the classic:  "unfortunately we made some critical errors"
LeopardBall10

bison137 wrote:
If Lehigh runs the table - which I doubt will happen - that could set up a 3-way tie where their head-to-head loss wouldn't be the tiebreaker. In that scenario, it would come down to a vote of AD's


Your correct, assuming that Colgate wins their games against everyone but Lehigh. But I still think Fordham gets the autobid based on strength of schedule, blah, blah if the ADs vote in a 3 way tie with all other tiebreakers being equal.
LeopardBall10

SIDELINER wrote:
Kern and Miller rejoin the offensive line, which is good for them. But Edmonds got only 51 yards against Colgate last week. That's bad.

And, can the LC defense keep Melville from killing them with arm and legs? Stop Melville, you stop Colgate offense. Simply said, not so simply done.


From what Gate and Fordham posters are saying on AGS (I didn't watch the game) the Fordham OL played a terrible game. But that may have been caused by Gate stacking the box and giving them a look they hadn't seen on film. One Gate poster said the LBs were free all game and Edmonds had nowhere to go. I don't think anyone feels like the Colgate front 7 are better than Fordham's OL.

The difficult part about stopping the Colgate offense is that it is designed to always be right. I know I posted a much longer post about this earlier, but the way the offense is designed they can run a read play package against any defense, to any gap, and as long as the QB makes the right read the play will work.

Loose tried everything in his arsenal to stop it from blitizing non-stop some years to disrupt the reads (didn't work, just made the reads happen faster because the QB could see the movement right away) and playing it like a triple option offense with strict gap control other years (also didn't work because noses and 3 techs aren't used to being read and you can't teach those reactions in a week). I know a lot of x's and o's but I am really unfamiliar with the 3-3-5 concept that the Leopards deploy now. I will be interested to see what scheme Link uses now that Melville is another year older and has become much more skilled at running this dangerous offense.
Franks Tanks

LeopardBall10 wrote:
SIDELINER wrote:
Kern and Miller rejoin the offensive line, which is good for them. But Edmonds got only 51 yards against Colgate last week. That's bad.

And, can the LC defense keep Melville from killing them with arm and legs? Stop Melville, you stop Colgate offense. Simply said, not so simply done.


From what Gate and Fordham posters are saying on AGS (I didn't watch the game) the Fordham OL played a terrible game. But that may have been caused by Gate stacking the box and giving them a look they hadn't seen on film. One Gate poster said the LBs were free all game and Edmonds had nowhere to go. I don't think anyone feels like the Colgate front 7 are better than Fordham's OL.

The difficult part about stopping the Colgate offense is that it is designed to always be right. I know I posted a much longer post about this earlier, but the way the offense is designed they can run a read play package against any defense, to any gap, and as long as the QB makes the right read the play will work.

Loose tried everything in his arsenal to stop it from blitizing non-stop some years to disrupt the reads (didn't work, just made the reads happen faster because the QB could see the movement right away) and playing it like a triple option offense with strict gap control other years (also didn't work because noses and 3 techs aren't used to being read and you can't teach those reactions in a week). I know a lot of x's and o's but I am really unfamiliar with the 3-3-5 concept that the Leopards deploy now. I will be interested to see what scheme Link uses now that Melville is another year older and has become much more skilled at running this dangerous offense.


Just so we use the opposite of the scheme we used in 2012.  Was that day we blitzed?  I though Gate was going to score 100 that day.
RichH

That was me Smile. Gate lost Steffen early this year. The best DL in PL. Gate DL workmanlike but not dominant by any stretch. Gat did stack early in downs and ran occasional gap blitzes.  For the most part a straight up base D. DC called a near perfect game. Rams OL for whatever reason was a mess. Zero push.
Unsurprisingly,Gate O is QB centric. He has a read option on most every play. He's very good at it Smile . Not lookinv forward to aying them up there (:.
bison137

LeopardBall10 wrote:
bison137 wrote:
If Lehigh runs the table - which I doubt will happen - that could set up a 3-way tie where their head-to-head loss wouldn't be the tiebreaker. In that scenario, it would come down to a vote of AD's


Your correct, assuming that Colgate wins their games against everyone but Lehigh. But I still think Fordham gets the autobid based on strength of schedule, blah, blah if the ADs vote in a 3 way tie with all other tiebreakers being equal.



Yes, I agree Fordham would get the autobid - but not because of their head-to-head win in the scenario in the original post.  And  at this point, they don't have a better strength of schedule than Colgate or Lehigh.  But they are much higher in the computer rankings and they have a much better overall record - which are two of the criteria listed in the tiebreaker rules.  Their win over Army can't hurt them either.
Kpard

[quote="
Unsurprisingly,Gate O is QB centric. He has a read option on most every play. He's very good at it Smile . Not lookinv forward to aying them up there (:.[/quote]

I don't know Xs and Os that much either, but, I would commit one player to tackle the QB on every single play whether he hands it off or not, hoping to wear him down and make a physical or mental mistake.
LeopardBall10

bison137 wrote:
LeopardBall10 wrote:
bison137 wrote:
If Lehigh runs the table - which I doubt will happen - that could set up a 3-way tie where their head-to-head loss wouldn't be the tiebreaker. In that scenario, it would come down to a vote of AD's


Your correct, assuming that Colgate wins their games against everyone but Lehigh. But I still think Fordham gets the autobid based on strength of schedule, blah, blah if the ADs vote in a 3 way tie with all other tiebreakers being equal.



Yes, I agree Fordham would get the autobid - but not because of their head-to-head win in the scenario in the original post.  And  at this point, they don't have a better strength of schedule than Colgate or Lehigh.  But they are much higher in the computer rankings and they have a much better overall record - which are two of the criteria listed in the tiebreaker rules.  Their win over Army can't hurt them either.


An FBS win wouldn't constitute some difference in strength of schedule?
RichH

Kpard wrote:
[quote="
Unsurprisingly,Gate O is QB centric. He has a read option on most every play. He's very good at it Smile . Not lookinv forward to aying them up there (:.


I don't know Xs and Os that much either, but, I would commit one player to tackle the QB on every single play whether he hands it off or not, hoping to wear him down and make a physical or mental mistake.[/quote]
Hard to do. QB has 3 options,handoff,run or pass. Spying forces M to M coverage. Melville a decent runner with some size. IMO i n a 4-2 better to play gap control.
SIDELINER

The Morning Call's luncheon story.

http://www.mcall.com/sports/colle...gate-luncheon-20151103-story.html

I can't find anything on the E-T website.
BillS

There doesn't seem to be very much enthusiasm for the game tomorrow...GoPards!
bison137

LeopardBall10 wrote:
bison137 wrote:
LeopardBall10 wrote:
bison137 wrote:
If Lehigh runs the table - which I doubt will happen - that could set up a 3-way tie where their head-to-head loss wouldn't be the tiebreaker. In that scenario, it would come down to a vote of AD's


Your correct, assuming that Colgate wins their games against everyone but Lehigh. But I still think Fordham gets the autobid based on strength of schedule, blah, blah if the ADs vote in a 3 way tie with all other tiebreakers being equal.



Yes, I agree Fordham would get the autobid - but not because of their head-to-head win in the scenario in the original post.  And  at this point, they don't have a better strength of schedule than Colgate or Lehigh.  But they are much higher in the computer rankings and they have a much better overall record - which are two of the criteria listed in the tiebreaker rules.  Their win over Army can't hurt them either.


An FBS win wouldn't constitute some difference in strength of schedule?



An FBS game - win or lose - usually helps strength of schedule, although Army is weaker than at least 25 FCS teams.   And FU's ooc games with Columbia, Monmouth, and Penn haven't helped the SOS.   Right now, the computer rankings have the Fordham schedule as weaker than those of LC, LU, and CU.   One reason for that is that those three all have Fordham on their schedule, which strengthens it.   Fordham obviously does not.
Pard4Life

Lafayette Bucknell replay is on the Comcast Network right now.

First time we've ever been on that network.
bethlehempard

BillS wrote:
There doesn't seem to be very much enthusiasm for the game tomorrow...GoPards!


There is enthusiasm, just restrained. Sacks, turnovers or a return ... We need a break. A CB falling down. Maybe two, three of them. We are overdue for some luck.
The real season ends tomorrow then we enter the pseudo-mania of Lehigh week.
Our seniors have done some great things and something great always lies ahead in the future.
NewXbo

bethlehempard wrote:
BillS wrote:
There doesn't seem to be very much enthusiasm for the game tomorrow...GoPards!


There is enthusiasm, just restrained. Sacks, turnovers or a return ... We need a break. A CB falling down. Maybe two, three of them. We are overdue for some luck.
The real season ends tomorrow then we enter the pseudo-mania of Lehigh week.
Our seniors have done some great things and something great always lies ahead in the future.


We had numerous breaks last week and didn't take advantage of them. What we need is to play better.
Bogus Megapardus

Let's say the unthinkable happens - win over 'Gate and win over Lehigh.  Then what?
bethlehempard

Pigs fly?
flyfisher

I wouldn't get your hopes up today.
Andy

flyfisher wrote:
I wouldn't get your hopes up today.


Ugh. Injuries? Suspensions?  Or just a talented confident opponent with a powerful offensive system?

The 2 failed shots on 3rd/4th and very short last week, with a TO in between, summed us up. What do we do well? What are we coached to do well?

Hitting the highway here in a few.
bethlehempard

In year three of the scholarship football era, Lafayette is by far the worst team in a weak league and 235 of 253 in Sagarin ratings.
Thanks to Davidson, Valpo and several tiny southern schools who are beneath us.
Lafayette sports in general have failed in the scholarship era but football is supposed to be the marquee program.
It's time for change. Change with gratitude and respect but
IT'S TIME!!!!
LC Fan

I have to agree. Recruiting has failed, player development has failed, in game decision making has failed. All of which has led to a lack of confidence among the players that they can move the ball, stop the opponent, and in the end win.

Our quarterbacking has regressed, our OL has been pushed around for years, our special teams are embarrassing and our defense seems constantly confused. Continuing with the current regime will get us more of the same. It's time to try something else.
Franks Tanks

I have a coworker who played D3 ball and watches a lot of football.  This week he asked me how in the world Frank keeps his job.  

Everyone sees it.  Our kids don't develop, especially at QB.  Our offense has no identity.  The defense misses coach Loose.  This is what we will get until we make a change.  If Bruce has any self respect, he will step up and do what needs to be done.
Pards Rule

Lets go Pards....need a win!
Pards Rule

On kickoff, Gate fumbles, Pards recover. The Killa B pops it out!!
Pards Rule

Reed to Crawford TD! LC 7 CU 0
Pards Rule

OMG! Colgate goes for it on their 35 on 4th and 1 - what a dis and Pards sack QB!!!!!!!!
Pards Rule

UGH! Just missed Tim Vangelis on a perfect call - flea flicker!
Pards Rule

FG good Pards up 10-0. Did the defender get a hand on that Vangelis pass in end zone. Perfect throw - should have caught?
Pards Rule

Good runs so far. Who is number 26? He has some beef!
Pards Rule

Hey Pards Rule, that would be frosh CJ Amill of Youngstown, Ohio.
bethlehempard

Remarkable start. Meanwhile Lehigh might put HC away before the half.
Pards Rule

Hey PR Pards driving to Gate 36! Great first down catch by Tim V on 3rd and long!
Pards Rule

Hey Beth Pard, glad I dot have to talk to myself anymore!
Pards Rule

Jake Bissell snakes - couldn't resist - one through. Pards 13-0 nearing end of first.
bethlehempard

Somebody asked earlier, what happens if LC wins today and against Lehigh. Well we'd be 3-8.
Oh what the hell, Go Pards!
bethlehempard

Bucknell 7 Fordham 7 and the Bison are threatening.
Suddenly everybody's doing it.

Lehigh 34 Holy Cross 10 and the Brown might score again before the end of the half. Lehigh's freshman QB Mayes is killing them.
Lehigh 41-10. Mayes is 15/17 for 207 yards and 3 TDs.
Pards Rule

Sorry NewLeopard. I forgot to start new thread!!
Pards Rule

Gate TD from 75 yard drive
Pards Rule

bethlehempard wrote:
Bucknell 7 Fordham 7 and the Bison are threatening.
Suddenly everybody's doing it.

Lehigh 34 Holy Cross 10 and the Brown might score again before the end of the half. Lehigh's freshman QB Mayes is killing them.
Lehigh 41-10. Mayes is 15/17 for 207 yards and 3 TDs.


We better pay attention
bethlehempard

Reality bites. We scored off a turnover and the equivalent of a turnover. Now LC has made a lot of good plays and needs a stop.

Again, a miracle start then ...
bethlehempard

Lehigh is also stopping Pujals: 10-22 for 93 yards (4.2 avg) 1 TD 1 INTCP.
Pards Rule

BS!! No holding?!?! I didn't see 99s hand to face (wheres replay?) but come on so obvious holding! At a minimum offsetting, so it would be 4th..
bethlehempard

No running game for LC. Colgate has not been great today though.
Great block!
Pards Rule

Blocked Gate FG after Reed threw incomprehensible INT following a couple plays after Colgate kicked off after scoring TD. At half CU 14, LC 13
bethlehempard

We can't do anything without a short field.
Pards Rule

Gate 21 Pards 13
bethlehempard

If this drive sputters, try a new QB. It's not Reed's fault but what the heck.
FG. Nice work by Bissell today.
bethlehempard

PR soon coverage of this game is all yours again. Maybe I'll see you at Lehigh.
Newleopardfan2

Bissell is clutch today, but 3's against 7's won't do it. We're within 2 - hoping for a stop and a LC drive. We'll see...
Pards Rule

Thanks BP...Yes hope so...LC FG by Jake Bissell cuts Gate lead to 21-16 at end of 3rd. Pards driving at end of 3rd!
Pards Rule

Im watching a little behind due to cigar break..thanks for the spoiler NL Smile
Pards Rule

Timbo (# 2) steps up today!!
Pards Rule

We have 2 weeks until Lehigh...
Pards Rule

Final Gate 28 Pards 19...Eh, we beat the spread? Defense played well but HAVE to stop the must have 3rd downs! Boy, when was the last Pard team with 1 win or 0 wins?
SixtyEighter

There is no third down long enough that our opponent can't make it.This has been a pattern since the William and Mary game.
Pard4Life

SixtyEighter wrote:
There is no third down long enough that our opponent can't make it.This has been a pattern since the William and Mary game.


This has been a pattern since 2010.  Thought Link would fix this.  Loose would have DBs play ten yards off the man in a third and long and teams would routinely convert.

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