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Pard4Life

Lehigh Pre-game - Can we get it done?

Lehigh lost a heartbreaker.

We stink. But have won three in a row vs the Stain.

Positive signs of life are there in the past two games.

It's Lehigh week!
Pards Rule

Wait - three in a row? Did I miss something? Its only two. Anyways, BRING IT FOR BRIAN!
Kpard

I'm pulling for the guys, I hope they do it for themselves, but, it has been a painful year for Lafayette football.

If by some chance we pull off a W it is still a season to forget.
SixtyEighter

I'm with Kpard.  Beating Lehigh can't redeem this season.The program needs a complete overhaul and the focus should be on hoisting a banner the accomplishment of which will take care of the Lehigh obsession.Right now we are on a DIII playing level.
flyfisher

Beating Lehigh does not rescue a season. Pretty shallow to think it would. We have to aspire to more than that. However I can tell you a win would be unbelievable for the team. It has been a miserable year. It impacts the kids in all aspects of their life. Losing just pulls you down. Losing can be a demotivator in all aspects. The boys just need something positive, especially heading into the of season. The 2016 season starts next Sunday., not spring ball or summer camp. Sunday we must start to get this crud off of us.
Pards Rule

flyfisher wrote:
Beating Lehigh does not rescue a season. Pretty shallow to think it would. We have to aspire to more than that. However I can tell you a win would be unbelievable for the team. It has been a miserable year. It impacts the kids in all aspects of their life. Losing just pulls you down. Losing can be a demotivator in all aspects. The boys just need something positive, especially heading into the of season. The 2016 season starts next Sunday., not spring ball or summer camp. Sunday we must start to get this crud off of us.


Agreed! A Lehigh win does not save the season. But it would be much better than losing the final game.
Jpao92

I watched Lehigh v. Colgate yesterday.  Lehigh's offense is potent.  The question isn't can we get it done.  The question is can we escape without letting Lehigh score 63 points?
bethlehempard

Lehigh at Colgate yesterday, a title game for the Red Raiders.
Attendance: 3,828. That is pathetic. Even this year, Lafayette drew 4,800-plus for the Colgate game.
Come to Lafayette, players, where people actually go to the games and where you will play before a packed house at least once per year.
Jpao92

And lose.
Jpao92

In what will most likely be a blowout as your head coach walks the sidelines pretending to know what is going on so as to justify his salary and your AD, Chairman of the Board and President yuck it up like there wasn't even a football game going on.  Oh, and the administration generally treats you like you were a stain on the College's reputation.

Or you could go to Colgate, a school with both an excellent academic reputation and a penchant for putting competitive athletic teams on the field or in their new field house.
Jpao92

But hey, who wants to talk about the new art school buildings in the flood zone?
Pards Rule

Jpao92 wrote:
In what will most likely be a blowout as your head coach walks the sidelines pretending to know what is going on so as to justify his salary and your AD, Chairman of the Board and President yuck it up like there wasn't even a football game going on.  Oh, and the administration generally treats you like you were a stain on the College's reputation.

Or you could go to Colgate, a school with both an excellent academic reputation and a penchant for putting competitive athletic teams on the field or in their new field house.


Is that what they are building behind the home stands? I saw it in a Lehigh alums post of pics from the visitors side trying to compare attendance of the game I went to last year (Nov. 8th ) up there in the picture I took from a similar vantage point.
Pards Rule

bethlehempard wrote:
Lehigh at Colgate yesterday, a title game for the Red Raiders.
Attendance: 3,828. That is pathetic. Even this year, Lafayette drew 4,800-plus for the Colgate game.
Come to Lafayette, players, where people actually go to the games and where you will play before a packed house at least once per year.



BP, that was tickets sold not attendance. This farce has got to stop. There seemed to be about the same attendance as the Pard game up there last year (two mediocre teams with no chance for PL or at large bid) from the comparison of my pic of home side to the Lehigh alums pic from the same vantage point.  Lehigh alum said though 500 estimated on his side and last year we had 75-100 on the visitors side.
SixtyEighter

The big problem around Easton is that losing to Lehigh doesn't get you fired but beating them keeps you around for another year.
NE Leopard

Carney come back, for one more game!

Carney, you are posting such insightful crap on AGS, I think you should post some of that over here for the true fans of Lafayette. We miss you!!  Laughing
bethlehempard

Colgate at Lafayette, 2013, the "ground control" first half, we probably had a legitimate 8,000 on a beautiful day (PR you may recall my wife and I talked to you briefly in Section 9).
As for Colgate yesterday they had maybe half, one-third of the reported attendance?
Hamilton is difficult in late fall.
I once left Easton in mid-November for Colgate and somehow arrived in February.
As for Lehigh ... I have to be optimistic. If we can complete some improbable long passes, anything can happen. It looks like Shafnisky will start.
I wonder if the Brown will lose any QBs in the off-season, after Mayes's great showing.
Newleopardfan2

SixtyEighter wrote:
Right now we are on a DIII playing level.


Not so sure. Just saw daughter's Alma Mater, Amherst College, beat Williams to run the table, 8-0 for 2nd consecutive season. I suppose we'd beat that D-III team, but not by a lot.
RichH

bethlehempard wrote:
Colgate at Lafayette, 2013, the "ground control" first half, we probably had a legitimate 8,000 on a beautiful day (PR you may recall my wife and I talked to you briefly in Section 9).
As for Colgate yesterday they had maybe half, one-third of the reported attendance?
Hamilton is difficult in late fall.
I once left Easton in mid-November for Colgate and somehow arrived in February.
As for Lehigh ... I have to be optimistic. If we can complete some improbable long passes, anything can happen. It looks like Shafnisky will start.
I wonder if the Brown will lose any QBs in the off-season, after Mayes's great showing.

Unlikely. Mayes didn't even expect to get on the field this year. Turned down FIU and 4 MAC offers to get an education. #3 and #4 will be juniors. Both ** recruits but not highly recruited. Dont think Nick is planning on moving Smile. Expect you'll be sdeing Mayes first hand on Saturday.
bethlehempard

I was thinking more of those older than Mayes considering leaving but it's a tough call at a good school. Yeah I think we will see Shaf and Mayes and who knows what else.
Right now I'm pondering going away for the weekend. It's so hard to watch a loss in person and we've had two great years.
If we win, I'll be the guy at the Brewworks in Lafayette gear.
I wonder if Coen is actually in trouble. I doubt it but Hawk fans insist he is.
That defense is a problem.
Andy

flyfisher wrote:
Beating Lehigh does not rescue a season. Pretty shallow to think it would. We have to aspire to more than that. However I can tell you a win would be unbelievable for the team. It has been a miserable year. It impacts the kids in all aspects of their life. Losing just pulls you down. Losing can be a demotivator in all aspects. The boys just need something positive, especially heading into the of season. The 2016 season starts next Sunday., not spring ball or summer camp. Sunday we must start to get this crud off of us.


Amen, fly.  Could use some pressure on Shaf. He had like 4 or 5 seconds to throw, as did Melville.  Reed usually gets 2.
RichH

bethlehempard wrote:
I was thinking more of those older than Mayes considering leaving but it's a tough call at a good school. Yeah I think we will see Shaf and Mayes and who knows what else.
Right now I'm pondering going away for the weekend. It's so hard to watch a loss in person and we've had two great years.
If we win, I'll be the guy at the Brewworks in Lafayette gear.
I wonder if Coen is actually in trouble. I doubt it but Hawk fans insist he is.
That defense is a problem.

Only the lunatic fringe think Coen on a hot seat. Losing Saturday will amp up the pressure from Sterrett. More likely D staff gets shaken up. Joe has little patience in fully funded sports with losing.  A losing record next year,he is on the hot seat.
Franks Tanks

Lehigh is a decent football team. Their offense is playing well right now, but they are nothing special.  They are very beatable.

We will be them? Probably not and we are bad at everything, but there is a chance.  Probably a better shot than we had in years like 2011, where Lehigh had a very solid team.  

Our SOS took a big shot in the arm this week by the way as Wagner beat CCSU by a few scores.  How bad is CCSU?
SixtyEighter

I see no evidence that we have any chance in this game.No matter how many points we score Lehigh will score more.If I recall correctly we scored as many as 28 points only once the entire season.
Jpao92

We have lost to plenty of "not so special" teams this year and in some cases by a wide margin.
Pard4Life

SixtyEighter wrote:
I see no evidence that we have any chance in this game.No matter how many points we score Lehigh will score more.If I recall correctly we scored as many as 28 points only once the entire season.


We have a shot. Lehigh lost a dramatic game and we had two weeks off.

We have them exactly where we want them.
NE Leopard

Pard4Life wrote:
SixtyEighter wrote:
I see no evidence that we have any chance in this game.No matter how many points we score Lehigh will score more.If I recall correctly we scored as many as 28 points only once the entire season.


We have a shot. Lehigh lost a dramatic game and we had two weeks off.

We have them exactly where we want them.


IMO, Lehigh's offense is better than our's, but we have a stronger D. We'll be as healthy this week as compared to all season. It is going to come down to who wants it more, and who can capitalize on the mistakes. It will be a close game either way. Roll Pards!
NE Leopard

Carney is an A**Hole

As an FYI for all our posters, here is the crap Carney is posting on AGS.

"Last chance for the Leopards to actually do something for the memory of Brian Keller. So far, all they've done is embarrass themselves."

Carney, if you don't have anything good to say, shut your F'IN Trap!!
Zeus

that person needs to seek help. It's really disturbing.

It's pathetic " fans" use that website to trash the program when they get put in their place here by people who are close to athletics , but whatever.

football can do no right here, and other sports can do no wrong.. that's how it goes.
Jpao92

Zeus, as far as I am concerned nobody trashes football per se but rather the College's "we don't care attitude" that tolerates chronic losing from every sport.
Lafalum

Jpao92 wrote:
Zeus, as far as I am concerned nobody trashes football per se but rather the College's "we don't care attitude" that tolerates chronic losing from every sport.


Correct
Pards Rule

bethlehempard wrote:
Colgate at Lafayette, 2013, the "ground control" first half, we probably had a legitimate 8,000 on a beautiful day (PR you may recall my wife and I talked to you briefly in Section 9).
As for Colgate yesterday they had maybe half, one-third of the reported attendance?
Hamilton is difficult in late fall.
I once left Easton in mid-November for Colgate and somehow arrived in February.
As for Lehigh ... I have to be optimistic. If we can complete some improbable long passes, anything can happen. It looks like Shafnisky will start.
I wonder if the Brown will lose any QBs in the off-season, after Mayes's great showing.


Indeed I do! Hey we have been cornered before - 1994 - and rolled to a 54-20 victory! That 34 points is one more than Killa B s projecting and is the largest LC margin of victory I saw vs Lehigh in 35 years of watching the game.
Jpao92

Which was followed, I believe, by a seven year losing streak.
The Maroon

This is my 27th Lehigh Week which I realize makes me a newcomer compared to some. Like most die hards, I've ALWAYS been able to convince myself that we were going to win  - even when Kevin Higgins was putting together a dynasty and ARot was trying to drop the program. I always worked out some scenario whereby we would prevail.

I don't have it this time. Maybe I'll get my mojo on Saturday. In the meantime, wouldn't this tank as the games biggest upset ever?
Franks Tanks

The Maroon wrote:
This is my 27th Lehigh Week which I realize makes me a newcomer compared to some. Like most die hards, I've ALWAYS been able to convince myself that we were going to win  - even when Kevin Higgins was putting together a dynasty and ARot was trying to drop the program. I always worked out some scenario whereby we would prevail.

I don't have it this time. Maybe I'll get my mojo on Saturday. In the meantime, wouldn't this tank as the games biggest upset ever?


Going just by win differential 2009 was a larger upset.  The 8-2 leopards lost to a 3-7 Lehigh squad.
flyfisher

We have to get several players back this week to have a chance. Must create several turnovers and protect Reed.

On a different topic, W&M is going to win the CAA.

I realize how miserable the season has been for the alumni and the fans. I'm sorry. It's good we have fans that care so much. I've always liked the passion of the small fan base. I can assure you it has been much more miserable for the boys.
The Maroon

Franks Tanks wrote:
The Maroon wrote:
This is my 27th Lehigh Week which I realize makes me a newcomer compared to some. Like most die hards, I've ALWAYS been able to convince myself that we were going to win  - even when Kevin Higgins was putting together a dynasty and ARot was trying to drop the program. I always worked out some scenario whereby we would prevail.

I don't have it this time. Maybe I'll get my mojo on Saturday. In the meantime, wouldn't this tank as the games biggest upset ever?


Going just by win differential 2009 was a larger upset.  The 8-2 leopards lost to a 3-7 Lehigh squad.


Yeah - that was a hell of a scene...

Still wondering if it would be our biggest upset.
The Maroon

flyfisher wrote:
We have to get several players back this week to have a chance. Must create several turnovers and protect Reed.

On a different topic, W&M is going to win the CAA.

I realize how miserable the season has been for the alumni and the fans. I'm sorry. It's good we have fans that care so much. I've always liked the passion of the small fan base. I can assure you it has been much more miserable for the boys.


I don't envy the boys - nobody has seen any quit out of them. When you're a seasoned Leopard fan - few things surprise you. That's why we cherish the good times - the Yankee stadium win carried me for a good bit of the season. While I haven't always been the most optimistic poster this season - I do appreciate your consistent level-headedness and much needed positivity surrounding the program (as well as Andy's!)

That doesn't mean I'm not concerned. I can handle a dismal season - as Andy once said we have to remember the other team is trying too! The injuries have been decimating and with the exception of the three straight championships about a decade ago -  Lafayette has never been a program that easily reloads after a successful season.  
My concern - besides the string of losing seasons - is how noncompetitive we were in so many of these games. I've never seen it - and I've seen some BAD Leopard teams. I know we're injured - but you weren't around for the patchwork unit Bill Russo put together his final season that featured a converted safety playing running back and a QB that probably wouldn't make your HS team. That team went 4-7 (albeit we weren't playing Delaware, W&M et al at the time) and damn near pulled it out against an amazing Lehigh team until our QB inexplicably threw a duck directly at Lehigh's all-world safety with no Leopard in sight.

We had plodding running backs and no speed whatsoever in the secondary... I realized the league and entire landscape has changed since the late 90's - but I never imagined we'd sink so low this season. 4-7, 5-6 - that would have kept the losing streak going but it would have been fine by me given the schedule.

We have to be "in the game" to win the game. Next year we may improve dramatically and be 2-9. We just aren't "in" any of these games.

I also am a bit baffled about this years recruiting - but I certainly won't mention names. I normally stay way the hell away from the recruiting discussion because judging recruiting classes is a stab in the dark at best - but I can't figure out where a lot of these guys fit in. That doesn't mean they aren't FCS-caliber players - just not sure what they're going to do in Easton. Normally I'd just trust the staff - but when you're 1-9 and facing at least one more losing season (almost certain) - it brings out the cynic in all of us.

By Saturday morning I'll have conjured up a scenario that only a Leopard nut could come up with where we'll stomp Lehigh - in the end I bleed Maroon.
NE Leopard

The Maroon wrote:
flyfisher wrote:
We have to get several players back this week to have a chance. Must create several turnovers and protect Reed.

On a different topic, W&M is going to win the CAA.

I realize how miserable the season has been for the alumni and the fans. I'm sorry. It's good we have fans that care so much. I've always liked the passion of the small fan base. I can assure you it has been much more miserable for the boys.


I don't envy the boys - nobody has seen any quit out of them. When you're a seasoned Leopard fan - few things surprise you. That's why we cherish the good times - the Yankee stadium win carried me for a good bit of the season. While I haven't always been the most optimistic poster this season - I do appreciate your consistent level-headedness and much needed positivity surrounding the program (as well as Andy's!)

That doesn't mean I'm not concerned. I can handle a dismal season - as Andy once said we have to remember the other team is trying too! The injuries have been decimating and with the exception of the three straight championships about a decade ago -  Lafayette has never been a program that easily reloads after a successful season.  
My concern - besides the string of losing seasons - is how noncompetitive we were in so many of these games. I've never seen it - and I've seen some BAD Leopard teams. I know we're injured - but you weren't around for the patchwork unit Bill Russo put together his final season that featured a converted safety playing running back and a QB that probably wouldn't make your HS team. That team went 4-7 (albeit we weren't playing Delaware, W&M et al at the time) and damn near pulled it out against an amazing Lehigh team until our QB inexplicably threw a duck directly at Lehigh's all-world safety with no Leopard in sight.

We had plodding running backs and no speed whatsoever in the secondary... I realized the league and entire landscape has changed since the late 90's - but I never imagined we'd sink so low this season. 4-7, 5-6 - that would have kept the losing streak going but it would have been fine by me given the schedule.

We have to be "in the game" to win the game. Next year we may improve dramatically and be 2-9. We just aren't "in" any of these games.

I also am a bit baffled about this years recruiting - but I certainly won't mention names. I normally stay way the hell away from the recruiting discussion because judging recruiting classes is a stab in the dark at best - but I can't figure out where a lot of these guys fit in. That doesn't mean they aren't FCS-caliber players - just not sure what they're going to do in Easton. Normally I'd just trust the staff - but when you're 1-9 and facing at least one more losing season (almost certain) - it brings out the cynic in all of us.

By Saturday morning I'll have conjured up a scenario that only a Leopard nut could come up with where we'll stomp Lehigh - in the end I bleed Maroon.


Good to see some positive (relatively) posts. I for one think the future looks great for the Pard's. No team in the league has weathered what we have gone through this year (death of a teammate and leader, injuries to key positions, inexperience, etc.). In addition, there is also no team in the PL that is playing the number of freshman and sophomores we are playing. Show me a team that has 2 freshman starters on the OL? Not one team we played all year, even OOC barely has sophomores on the 2-deep at the OL positions, let alone freshmen.

The point is we are getting real-time game experience while other teams freshmen and sophomores are sitting the bench and playing scout team. I know there are exceptions (Edmonds, Bragalone, Mayes), but you can count those impact kids on one hand. This season has been tough on everyone, but there is only one way to go up, and that starts this week with Lehigh.
Franks Tanks

NE Leopard wrote:
The Maroon wrote:
flyfisher wrote:
We have to get several players back this week to have a chance. Must create several turnovers and protect Reed.

On a different topic, W&M is going to win the CAA.

I realize how miserable the season has been for the alumni and the fans. I'm sorry. It's good we have fans that care so much. I've always liked the passion of the small fan base. I can assure you it has been much more miserable for the boys.


I don't envy the boys - nobody has seen any quit out of them. When you're a seasoned Leopard fan - few things surprise you. That's why we cherish the good times - the Yankee stadium win carried me for a good bit of the season. While I haven't always been the most optimistic poster this season - I do appreciate your consistent level-headedness and much needed positivity surrounding the program (as well as Andy's!)

That doesn't mean I'm not concerned. I can handle a dismal season - as Andy once said we have to remember the other team is trying too! The injuries have been decimating and with the exception of the three straight championships about a decade ago -  Lafayette has never been a program that easily reloads after a successful season.  
My concern - besides the string of losing seasons - is how noncompetitive we were in so many of these games. I've never seen it - and I've seen some BAD Leopard teams. I know we're injured - but you weren't around for the patchwork unit Bill Russo put together his final season that featured a converted safety playing running back and a QB that probably wouldn't make your HS team. That team went 4-7 (albeit we weren't playing Delaware, W&M et al at the time) and damn near pulled it out against an amazing Lehigh team until our QB inexplicably threw a duck directly at Lehigh's all-world safety with no Leopard in sight.

We had plodding running backs and no speed whatsoever in the secondary... I realized the league and entire landscape has changed since the late 90's - but I never imagined we'd sink so low this season. 4-7, 5-6 - that would have kept the losing streak going but it would have been fine by me given the schedule.

We have to be "in the game" to win the game. Next year we may improve dramatically and be 2-9. We just aren't "in" any of these games.

I also am a bit baffled about this years recruiting - but I certainly won't mention names. I normally stay way the hell away from the recruiting discussion because judging recruiting classes is a stab in the dark at best - but I can't figure out where a lot of these guys fit in. That doesn't mean they aren't FCS-caliber players - just not sure what they're going to do in Easton. Normally I'd just trust the staff - but when you're 1-9 and facing at least one more losing season (almost certain) - it brings out the cynic in all of us.

By Saturday morning I'll have conjured up a scenario that only a Leopard nut could come up with where we'll stomp Lehigh - in the end I bleed Maroon.


Good to see some positive (relatively) posts. I for one think the future looks great for the Pard's. No team in the league has weathered what we have gone through this year (death of a teammate and leader, injuries to key positions, inexperience, etc.). In addition, there is also no team in the PL that is playing the number of freshman and sophomores we are playing. Show me a team that has 2 freshman starters on the OL? Not one team we played all year, even OOC barely has sophomores on the 2-deep at the OL positions, let alone freshmen.

The point is we are getting real-time game experience while other teams freshmen and sophomores are sitting the bench and playing scout team. I know there are exceptions (Edmonds, Bragalone, Mayes), but you can count those impact kids on one hand. This season has been tough on everyone, but there is only one way to go up, and that starts this week with Lehigh.


What you are saying is correct, but we've been in this cycle before.  Young guys play, and we tell ourselves the future if bright.  They are young and talented (which I think in true), and they will get so much better over the next few years.  Fact is that doesn't happen.  The kids don't seem to improve like they should.  When the young guys mature we are still losing, and we are told all over again the young kids are really talented,

This has resulted in 6 straight losing season, and really only 5-6 games over that whole period where we played consistently good football (2nd half of 2013).  Lack of development. Lack of a plan.  We keep losing and probably will until a few changes are made.
Pards Rule

At least in my memory it would be the biggest Pard upset. I agree biggest LU upset was 2009. I can see Jerome Rudolph (I was sitting in the corner of the grassy knoll where he stationed himself on the play) wide open awaiting the winning pass (Assuming we made the PAT).
The Maroon

NE Leopard wrote:
The Maroon wrote:
flyfisher wrote:
We have to get several players back this week to have a chance. Must create several turnovers and protect Reed.

On a different topic, W&M is going to win the CAA.

I realize how miserable the season has been for the alumni and the fans. I'm sorry. It's good we have fans that care so much. I've always liked the passion of the small fan base. I can assure you it has been much more miserable for the boys.


I don't envy the boys - nobody has seen any quit out of them. When you're a seasoned Leopard fan - few things surprise you. That's why we cherish the good times - the Yankee stadium win carried me for a good bit of the season. While I haven't always been the most optimistic poster this season - I do appreciate your consistent level-headedness and much needed positivity surrounding the program (as well as Andy's!)

That doesn't mean I'm not concerned. I can handle a dismal season - as Andy once said we have to remember the other team is trying too! The injuries have been decimating and with the exception of the three straight championships about a decade ago -  Lafayette has never been a program that easily reloads after a successful season.  
My concern - besides the string of losing seasons - is how noncompetitive we were in so many of these games. I've never seen it - and I've seen some BAD Leopard teams. I know we're injured - but you weren't around for the patchwork unit Bill Russo put together his final season that featured a converted safety playing running back and a QB that probably wouldn't make your HS team. That team went 4-7 (albeit we weren't playing Delaware, W&M et al at the time) and damn near pulled it out against an amazing Lehigh team until our QB inexplicably threw a duck directly at Lehigh's all-world safety with no Leopard in sight.

We had plodding running backs and no speed whatsoever in the secondary... I realized the league and entire landscape has changed since the late 90's - but I never imagined we'd sink so low this season. 4-7, 5-6 - that would have kept the losing streak going but it would have been fine by me given the schedule.

We have to be "in the game" to win the game. Next year we may improve dramatically and be 2-9. We just aren't "in" any of these games.

I also am a bit baffled about this years recruiting - but I certainly won't mention names. I normally stay way the hell away from the recruiting discussion because judging recruiting classes is a stab in the dark at best - but I can't figure out where a lot of these guys fit in. That doesn't mean they aren't FCS-caliber players - just not sure what they're going to do in Easton. Normally I'd just trust the staff - but when you're 1-9 and facing at least one more losing season (almost certain) - it brings out the cynic in all of us.

By Saturday morning I'll have conjured up a scenario that only a Leopard nut could come up with where we'll stomp Lehigh - in the end I bleed Maroon.


Good to see some positive (relatively) posts. I for one think the future looks great for the Pard's. No team in the league has weathered what we have gone through this year (death of a teammate and leader, injuries to key positions, inexperience, etc.). In addition, there is also no team in the PL that is playing the number of freshman and sophomores we are playing. Show me a team that has 2 freshman starters on the OL? Not one team we played all year, even OOC barely has sophomores on the 2-deep at the OL positions, let alone freshmen.

The point is we are getting real-time game experience while other teams freshmen and sophomores are sitting the bench and playing scout team. I know there are exceptions (Edmonds, Bragalone, Mayes), but you can count those impact kids on one hand. This season has been tough on everyone, but there is only one way to go up, and that starts this week with Lehigh.


I don't want to kill your vibe - I mean lord knows SOMEONE has to believe - but I'm not seeing it. When you're playing a lot of frosh and you're losing competitive games but just can't finish that final drive, or stop the opposing team from their final touchdown, or you're missing one or two coverages that wind up costing the game - THEN you have a young team to be excited about. When you're just getting beat from start to finish - then there's no reason to believe our boys picking up real game experience are any better than those guys playing on the scout team while their elder classmates manage to win a few games.

Time will tell - but again I'm not so discouraged about the losses - I'm discouraged that we aren't even competitive! We need a bus to get to competitive! We're getting mercy-ruled against some of these teams!

And while I'd like to think it would come down to "who wants it more" - I'm worried it may come down to other factors like which team controls the line of scrimmage. I'm pretty sure both teams want it.

While the Lehigh game won't all of a sudden make this a great season - we need SOMETHING to build on for next season. Something to validate that hoping for more than 3 wins next year is folly.

Man this has been a rough year so far - across virtually all of our sports.
Pard4Life

Come on guys it's Lehigh week!!!

Lighten up!! Show some damn spirit!!! We can b*tch about everything else on Sunday. It's all about beating Lehigh right now. This week only comes ONCE a year.

The Leopards will win by 33!! BET THE HOUSE!!
Kpard

Pard4Life wrote:
Come on guys it's Lehigh week!!!

Lighten up!! Show some damn spirit!!! We can b*tch about everything else on Sunday. It's all about beating Lehigh right now. This week only comes ONCE a year.

The Leopards will win by 33!! BET THE HOUSE!!


I'll have what he's drinking! Rolling Eyes  Wink
BillS

Kpard wrote:
Pard4Life wrote:
Come on guys it's Lehigh week!!!

Lighten up!! Show some damn spirit!!! We can b*tch about everything else on Sunday. It's all about beating Lehigh right now. This week only comes ONCE a year.

The Leopards will win by 33!! BET THE HOUSE!!


I'll have what he's drinking! Rolling Eyes  Wink
That's why we play the game  Wink Hopefully it will be an upset and maybe we'll get an early Christmas present when Frank announces his retirement 😊
Kpard

BillS wrote:
Kpard wrote:
Pard4Life wrote:
Come on guys it's Lehigh week!!!

Lighten up!! Show some damn spirit!!! We can b*tch about everything else on Sunday. It's all about beating Lehigh right now. This week only comes ONCE a year.

The Leopards will win by 33!! BET THE HOUSE!!


I'll have what he's drinking! Rolling Eyes  Wink
That's why we play the game  Wink Hopefully it will be an upset and maybe we'll get an early Christmas present when Frank announces his retirement ��


OK, I would not be totally shocked by a Pard win, however, by 33? The most we scored all year was 35 against Wagner. We may pull this off, but, given the Turds offense, it won't be by 33 unless they have a total meltdown and kick the ball around.

BEAT LEHIGH!!!
Jpao92

Early Christmas present?  Frank retiring?  Please, more like Brucie McSturgeon announcing another contract extension.  

Of course, if Frank did retire the real horror would begin.  Ole Brucie would immediately proceed to conduct a long and ardous national search of the Lafayette campus to find the next coach.  He should have said next coach (cough, Mickey Fein) signed to a long contract within a day of Frank retiring.   Bank on it.
Franks Tanks

Jpao92 wrote:
Early Christmas present?  Frank retiring?  Please, more like Brucie McSturgeon announcing another contract extension.  

Of course, if Frank did retire the real horror would begin.  Ole Brucie would immediately proceed to conduct a long and ardous national search of the Lafayette campus to find the next coach.  He should have said next coach (cough, Mickey Fein) signed to a long contract within a day of Frank retiring.   Bank on it.


Only at Lafayette could one get promoted for running a unit that consistently under performed under your watch.  Maybe Bruce promotes people in this manner, because he was promoted under similar circumstances.  His qualifications for the AD job were mostly that he was already on campus, and was rocking the sweet stache before it became cool again.

Fein isn't a bad coach, but we could do much better.  There are OCs and DC's at big time FCS coaches that would love the job.  These are guys that run high quality units and know how to recruit scholarship FCS players.  They are more qualified.  There are also very good head coaches at the PA D2 schools, and these guys mostly have very few scholarships.  The recruiting aspect would be very different however.
Pard4Life

I'll say it again... save the b*itchin for Sunday...

LEOPARDS BY 33!  BET THE HOUSE!!  

GO PARDS!   Very Happy
Pards Rule

I came up last night. Lets do it! Look for me with the Pard!!  His compadre is temporarily in Columbus NJ for the weekend.
Kpard

Let's put it all together for this one.

BEAT LEHIGH!!!!!!

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