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ed65

Now for Met College

Well, a 17-12 overall record, (first LC team with a winning record since??) and a barely acceptable 9-9 in the PL.  The team has played ok at home but has not been dominant by any means.  Losing to LU and Colgate at home really hurt.  Two losses to American again seem to be normal for LC Hoops.

I watched the entire game yesterday on the replay. It is clear that this team really has to step it up on D if they want to beat the Met College "scholars."  and it would help if Joey regains his shooting touch.  Trist is playing very well but we will need a big game from Seth to beat Met (it continues to really bother me that Met is in the League).  Maybe 137 can enlighten us as to their AI this year.

As of now (and no snow), I am planning to make the long drive to Easton) and the even longer drive home) to see the game.
bison137

Re: Now for Met College

ed65 wrote:
 Maybe 137 can enlighten us as to their AI this year.




1. Most of the current Boston U players had to pass through the PL AI.   Boston U's average SAT/ACT score for incoming students is identical to Lafayette, and their average GPA for incoming students is higher than is the case for LC - so they likely have a higher AI hurdle.

2.  It appears that Boston U has no players on their roster who attend Metropolitan College.

3.  As I've said over 100 times in the past, I think adding Boston U to the PL was a major mistake - not due to academics but due to its massive size, its ability to spend far more on sports than other PL schools, and how different it is in many other ways.
LC Fan

Ed-- Enough already with the snobbish, condescending, and pernicious comments re. Boston. Get over it and let's play ball.
pards123

Despite the home game, this is pretty much my nightmare scenario. Even if we somehow beat MC, does anyone think we'll go to sjoka and win? I would have liked our chances against pretty much all of the other teams
leopard521

Actually u don't know how this tournament will play out. There's no definite leader in this league. Let's take care of Boston U. Then look at the next game. Personally I feel holy cross could be making a visit to us because bucknell has not been playing the same ball they were at the beginning of the season. If holy cross plays the ball they played yesterday, then were gonna have ourselves a tourney
Pard4Life

Maybe 521... but HC spanked us in Worcester.  To be honest I'd rather have played Lehigh is Rd1 and then face Colgate.

But this is the PL! Who know who will show up, so yes still anyone's to win.  I'd put my money on Bucknell, then Lehigh.
bison137

leopard521 wrote:
Personally I feel holy cross could be making a visit to us because bucknell has not been playing the same ball they were at the beginning of the season. If holy cross plays the ball they played yesterday, then were gonna have ourselves a tourney



Bucknell has played its best ball of the season over the last month.  Has won 6 of their last 7 and 11 of their last 14.  No comparison to earlier in the year when their play ranged from mediocre to awful (with the exception of the Nova game).

Having said that, I agree they could lose to HC. To start, BU has 3 freshman starters plus a key freshman reserve. That means inconsistency and very little tournament experience. Also HC creates majors matchup problems, with BU having to guard Malcolm Miller with a much shorter player. And Paulsen is not a good end-game coach, to put it mildly.
The Maroon

LC Fan wrote:
Ed-- Enough already with the snobbish, condescending, and pernicious comments re. Boston. Get over it and let's play ball.


I'm inclined to agree. I work among some pretty talented grads from this institution.
Kpard

If we have a hot shooting night we can beat anyone, anywhere. We've just not been consistent all year, and especially in league. Now is the time.
ed65

To all those who criticize me over Met College.  Bison said it well: Met College's size gives them a distinct advantage in the PL.  I have no qualms whatever with the academic reputation of the school and would not argue with anyone about that.  However, Last year's men's Bball team had a bunch of Met College types which completely calls into question why they were allowed in the League without waiting a year.

Maybe Bison can do some research into how many Met College types are on their other varsity sports teams.

To put it very succinctly, BU absolutely does not belong in the PL.
Kpard

The February of snow in the Northeast that would never end has turned into the March of snow that will never end. Forcast for snow, sleet, freezing rain, rain, all the above, some of the above, etc from now until Friday. I already have my tickets so I am hoping to get there. Looking for a big student turnout. So far, other than some real die hards and a decent showing for LU, they have been a no show and a non factor.
Nice puff piece article in the Allentown Morning Call this AM about the 3 - 1,000 pt scoring seniors.
bison137

ed65 wrote:
To all those who criticize me over Met College.  Bison said it well: Met College's size gives them a distinct advantage in the PL.  I have no qualms whatever with the academic reputation of the school and would not argue with anyone about that.  However, Last year's men's Bball team had a bunch of Met College types which completely calls into question why they were allowed in the League without waiting a year.

Maybe Bison can do some research into how many Met College types are on their other varsity sports teams.

To put it very succinctly, BU absolutely does not belong in the PL.



As I've said on a number of occasions, I don't think Boston U is a good fit.   But  to answer the questions:

1.  They had two Metropolitan College students last year, both now gone.
2.  There are very very few in that college in other sports.  I know their lax team fairly well since a family friend's son plays for them, and I know that not one of their 45 players is in Metropolitan College.  The family friend, btw, was originally committed and accepted by one of the five best NESCAC schools before switching to Boston U.
3.  There is no way the PL could have asked Boston U to wait a year and then join.   They would have been placed in no-league limbo during that time.   If the league wanted them, that was not an option.
ed65

bison137 wrote:
ed65 wrote:
To all those who criticize me over Met College.  Bison said it well: Met College's size gives them a distinct advantage in the PL.  I have no qualms whatever with the academic reputation of the school and would not argue with anyone about that.  However, Last year's men's Bball team had a bunch of Met College types which completely calls into question why they were allowed in the League without waiting a year.

Maybe Bison can do some research into how many Met College types are on their other varsity sports teams.

To put it very succinctly, BU absolutely does not belong in the PL.



As I've said on a number of occasions, I don't think Boston U is a good fit.   But  to answer the questions:

1.  They had two Metropolitan College students last year, both now gone.
2.  There are very very few in that college in other sports.  I know their lax team fairly well since a family friend's son plays for them, and I know that not one of their 45 players is in Metropolitan College.  The family friend, btw, was originally committed and accepted by one of the five best NESCAC schools before switching to Boston U.
3.  There is no way the PL could have asked Boston U to wait a year and then join.   They would have been placed in no-league limbo during that time.   If the league wanted them, that was not an option.


Then the PL should have told BU to go someplace else.  They bring nothing to the league: no Football, no baseball and no connection to any school in the league including Holy Cross which could be a geographic rival but isn't.  HC is all about BC.
bethlehempard

Both games may be at risk because of weather and unfortunately good crowds are not likely if they proceed on schedule. Today's LV weather was the worst of the year and more is coming.
WBB may have an easier time of it.
I have no idea how league teams travel. If Boston gets here tomorrow I guess the game goes on. Do teams typically arrive the night before if coming from a distance?
bison137

bethlehempard wrote:
Both games may be at risk because of weather and unfortunately good crowds are not likely if they proceed on schedule. Today's LV weather was the worst of the year and more is coming.
WBB may have an easier time of it.
I have no idea how league teams travel. If Boston gets here tomorrow I guess the game goes on. Do teams typically arrive the night before if coming from a distance?



Teams almost always arrive the evening before the game.   Exceptions are only games involving the close schools, Bucknell-Lehigh-Lafayette and American-Loyola-Navy.

I imagine Boston U will leave at lunchtime tomorrow.   I'd be stunned if the game is not played as scheduled.  The only real issue is the refs making it to the game.
Kpard

bethlehempard wrote:
Both games may be at risk because of weather and unfortunately good crowds are not likely if they proceed on schedule. Today's LV weather was the worst of the year and more is coming.
WBB may have an easier time of it.
I have no idea how league teams travel. If Boston gets here tomorrow I guess the game goes on. Do teams typically arrive the night before if coming from a distance?


Snow supposed to end tomorrow early afternoon. Lord knows how travel's gonna be in the Lehigh Valley. Plus, parking on the hill, sucks in dry weather.
Going to do my darndest to get there. Supposed to be a "white out", but, I don't think they meant SNOW!
Pard4Life

What are the keys to this game?  We were blown out in two of them before rallying for a buzzer beating win in one game.

Why are these guys a match up problem?
Lafalum

Pard4Life wrote:
What are the keys to this game?  We were blown out in two of them before rallying for a buzzer beating win in one game.

Why are these guys a match up problem?


Overall team speed will be an issue. We need a good game from Lindner and Joey. I expect a great effort from Trist.
Kpard

Pard4Life wrote:
What are the keys to this game?  We were blown out in two of them before rallying for a buzzer beating win in one game.

Why are these guys a match up problem?


Lindner did not play game 2 at KSC. That was the beginning of the flu going through the squad. Met Co is athletic. Always a problem for us. BTW it is snowing like crazy in the LV. Expected to stop around mid afternoon, but, it is accumulating like crazy. Crowd will be down for sure.
carney2

Lafalum wrote:
Pard4Life wrote:
What are the keys to this game?  We were blown out in two of them before rallying for a buzzer beating win in one game.

Why are these guys a match up problem?


Overall team speed will be an issue. We need a good game from Lindner and Joey. I expect a great effort from Trist.


Lindner and Trist have been the only constants for this year.  Time for Hinrichs and Ptasinski to step it up.  

Can't figure Hinrichs' problems since the League season started.  Some are saying that he is spending too much time with his 6'8" on the perimeter.  Is that it?  If so is that by choice?

As for Ptasinski, I'm opining that he just isn't quick enough to break defenses that know what's coming and are keyed on him.  League opponents definitely know what's coming and want to stop him, so ...
Pard4Life

I still see us having a difficult time in this game. Boston by 10, but we fight hard.
Refrider

It's a whiteout at Kirby  Smile
seenalot

THAT would be a huge disappointment.  Just fighting hard is not what these seniors should allow.
pards123

Need to get off to a good start here. A loss is a huge disappointment.
bethlehempard

Win or lose, is this Jim Finnen's last game? I guess we could have another game at Kirby if the chips fall the right way.
pards123

Already getting killed on the boards
pards123

Terrible start.
But good recovery
Lafalum

We need our outside shooters to win this game!
bethlehempard

Nick is relentless. We are lucky to have his leadership for two more years. We will need it.
pards123

bethlehempard wrote:
Nick is relentless. We are lucky to have his leadership for two more years. We will need it.


Really stepping into Tony Johnson's role nicely
pards123

Well after a rough first five minutes that turned into one of the best halves of the year
Lafalum

PLN is the pits, It"s pixel city as we get deeper into the game.
bethlehempard

I'm watching RCN on Channel 60 on Service Electric Cable. Maybe RCN subscribers get a better picture. This is like watching a game shot through a dirty aquarium.
I am grateful for the coverage we get all the same.
The Lehigh game on 502 is crystal clear. Lehigh is up 4 at the half. With the Squawks, you never know what's going to happen this year.
pards123

This is incredible and very fun to watch.

Lotta time left but wow
bethlehempard

It's downright weird. But fun.
Lehigh is down 5.

Is Klinewski hurt?
pards123

I think I would be crying if I was on BU. This is unfair
bethlehempard

Lehigh is awful tonight. Down 9 with 6:17 to go.
I support any core school over non-football-supporting freeloaders.
Musters is doing well.

Turn out the lights! It's over!
pards123

6 point game in Lewisburg. Go HC
pards123

One point game with HC going to the line. They look they are playing really well.
bethlehempard

Lehigh is done. A big disappointment in Brownsville.
pards123

Overtime in Lewisburg. Holy Cross was up 3 with 25 seconds to play, but gave up an and 1.
pards123

Bucknell is going to win. So close to a home semifinal game...
Pard4Life

HC made an improbable comeback but then fumbles the game away late... could not get a rebound, twice, on a key possession late and they give up an 'and 1.'

Good bye Lehigh!  It's good that American won because if they advance and we prevail, it's a Kirby game.

Good win but we were hot from the field.  Doesn't always happen with this crew but the spark was on tonight.  Will it continue in a place where we never win? (Once since 2003)
Kpard

We needed to shoot well, but, wow! I hope we have something left for Sunday!
GO PARDS!!!!
Andy

Proud of the team as well as the student body who had Kirby rockin tonight. Loudest "Defense!" I've heard in many a year. Great job!
Lafalum

Best Performance of the year for the team. I am hoping we can bring it going forward. Student attendance was good. Too bad about the snow holding down the crowd!
seenalot

You could see it in their eyes - right from the start.  Carry that into Lewisburg and we shall all smile again.
carney2

Lafalum wrote:
Best Performance of the year for the team.


Gary Laubach asked Fran if this is as good as this team can play.  Fran didn't say yes, but he didn't say no.

I guess we were waiting for the three 1,000 point scorers plus Lindner to put it together at the same time.  Now we've seen it.  Could be a memorable finish for this group, but you can't help thinking "what might have been."
Franks Tanks

carney2 wrote:
Lafalum wrote:
Best Performance of the year for the team.


Gary Laubach asked Fran if this is as good as this team can play.  Fran didn't say yes, but he didn't say no.

I guess we were waiting for the three 1,000 point scorers plus Lindner to put it together at the same time.  Now we've seen it.  Could be a memorable finish for this group, but you can't help thinking "what might have been."


I hear ya.

Seth is now 5th all time in scoring at Lafayette with 1,499 points.

Trist and Seth are among a handful of Lafayette players with 1,400 or more points and 500 or more rebounds (I think that was the stat). Linder has turned into a force over the last 8 games or so.  If these guys are dialed in we have a great chance to make some noise, and if American beats Colgate the final will be at Kirby, although we may want to play Colgate instead  Laughing
Lafalum

My concern would be for the league on CBS at Colgate with a crowd of several dozen in the stands. Take care of Bucknell first. Sojka has not been our friend.
bison137

Lafalum wrote:
My concern would be for the league on CBS at Colgate with a crowd of several dozen in the stands. Take care of Bucknell first. Sojka has not been our friend.



Colgate actually has had a number of students jump onto the bandwagon the past two games, so Cotterell has looked fairly full.   Of course it only has about 1750 seats so it doesn't take a lot - but it has been close to 75% of capacity.   And like LC, Colgate has a late spring break so their students will all be there throughout the tournament.   Bucknell students are on break, so Sojka will not be a difficult place to play.   (Many had left before last night, although student turnout was pretty good.)
carney2

The Alientown Mourning Crawl placed the story of Lehigh's loss to American on page 1 of today's sports section, albeit below the fold.  Lafayette's rout of BU was on page 4.  There never has been much doubt as to who is the Lehigh Valley's home team.
carney2

bison137 wrote:
Bucknell students are on break, so Sojka will not be a difficult place to play.   (Many had left before last night, although student turnout was pretty good.)


Empty, crowded, flooded it doesn't matter.  One win in ... forever ... says that it's a tough place for the Pards to play basketball.
Kpard

Andy wrote:
Proud of the team as well as the student body who had Kirby rockin tonight. Loudest "Defense!" I've heard in many a year. Great job!


Plus, I beleive the students had to pay for thier tickets since it was a PL playoff game!?
pards123

carney2 wrote:
The Alientown Mourning Crawl placed the story of Lehigh's loss to American on page 1 of today's sports section, albeit below the fold.  Lafayette's rout of BU was on page 4.  There never has been much doubt as to who is the Lehigh Valley's home team.


They deserve it. They beat Duke and had a player drafted in the top 10.
Franks Tanks

pards123 wrote:
carney2 wrote:
The Alientown Mourning Crawl placed the story of Lehigh's loss to American on page 1 of today's sports section, albeit below the fold.  Lafayette's rout of BU was on page 4.  There never has been much doubt as to who is the Lehigh Valley's home team.


They deserve it. They beat Duke and had a player drafted in the top 10.


True, but their attendance is still awful.  We had nearly twice as many in attendance than Lehigh last night.
carney2

pards123 wrote:
carney2 wrote:
The Alientown Mourning Crawl placed the story of Lehigh's loss to American on page 1 of today's sports section, albeit below the fold.  Lafayette's rout of BU was on page 4.  There never has been much doubt as to who is the Lehigh Valley's home team.


They deserve it. They beat Duke and had a player drafted in the top 10.


We're not just talking basketball - and they probably do deserve it.  In football they have a national championship in my lifetime, a few playoff wins, and multiple 11, 10, and 9 win seasons, while the best we can do is 8 - and VERY seldom.  They are also a national power in rassling which is a big deal in the Lehigh Valley.  They seem to take athletics as seriously as we take gender bending.
Pard4Life

carney2 wrote:
pards123 wrote:
carney2 wrote:
The Alientown Mourning Crawl placed the story of Lehigh's loss to American on page 1 of today's sports section, albeit below the fold.  Lafayette's rout of BU was on page 4.  There never has been much doubt as to who is the Lehigh Valley's home team.


They deserve it. They beat Duke and had a player drafted in the top 10.


We're not just talking basketball - and they probably do deserve it.  In football they have a national championship in my lifetime, a few playoff wins, and multiple 11, 10, and 9 win seasons, while the best we can do is 8 - and VERY seldom.  They are also a national power in rassling which is a big deal in the Lehigh Valley.  They seem to take athletics as seriously as we take gender bending.


You forgot lacrosse.  Lehigh got an AD who no longer tolerated the losing BS in basketball, and look what happened. NCAA wins are far from guaranteed, but Lehigh hoops got exciting for awhile.  They were an joke for decades until Sterret said 'enough'.  There is a direct quote on that point from him somewhere.

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