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carney2

Patriot League 2015 Schedules

Only looking at the OOC schedules:

BUCKNELL:
Marist
Duquesne
@ Cornell
@ VMI
@ Army
Army and an assortment of cupcakes.  4-1 is quite doable.

COLGATE
@ Navy
New Hampshire
Yale
@ Cornell
@ Princeton
Probably the toughest schedule in the League.  Could be 1-4...or worse.

FORDHAM
@ Army
Columbia
Villanova
Monmouth
@ Penn
Two tough games - and three, not so much.

GEORGETOWN
@ St. Francis (PA)
Marist
Dartmouth
@ Columbia
@ Harvard
The Hoyas could win 2 of these, but will probably have trouble with the schedule.

HOLY CROSS
@ Monmouth
@ Towson
Albany
Brown
Bryant
The Cross needs to achieve some stability.  This schedule should help them.

LAFAYETTE
William & Mary
@ Delaware
Princeton
@ Wagner
Harvard
A tough schedule but not quite as difficult as it appears.  3-2 is doable - and is a MUST to avoid yet more mediocrity.

LEHIGH
@ Central Connecticut
@ James Madison
Penn
@ Princeton
Yale
The Squawks could do as well as 3-2 and begin the turnaround.
RichH

Hope PL does a bit better OOC. All come back with plusses and quetion marks. Think Cross may surprise OOC.
Bogus Megapardus

Sheeh . . . the Annoying Orange can pencil in 4-1 right now.  Cups and cups of cake in Lewisburg.

Good for Colgate to get those quality home OOC games.  Sometimes the have to play their whole OOC slate on the road.

carney2 wrote:
LAFAYETTE

A tough schedule but not quite as difficult as it appears.  3-2 is doable.

I'll have what carney2 is drinking.
carney2

RichH wrote:
Think Cross may surprise OOC.


The only "surprise" with that schedule would be a string of losses.  Not quite the Bucknell stroll through the cupcakes, but it looks like some Twinkies, Ho Hos and Ding Dongs sprinkled in there.
Pard4Life

The HC schedule may be deceptively difficult. Those can be good teams but I don't recall from last season. HC has trouble with Brown.

For all, Monmouth may be underrated, and Columbia is an unknown. They still don't have the personnel, but attitude and hope make a difference. Bagnoli might have an effect.
carney2

Pard4Life wrote:
The HC schedule may be deceptively difficult. Those can be good teams but I don't recall from last season.


Could be, I guess, but none of the Cross's 2015 foes are bringing an obvious juggernaut into the season.  Last year's results:

Monmouth 6-5  Signature win was Lehigh
Towson 4-8  Signature win was Delaware
Albany 7-5  Nothing special in the win column; beat Cross and Colgate
Brown 5-5  Lost to Georgetown
Bryant 5-7  Blown out by Brown, Sacred Heart and Duquesne
bison137

carney2 wrote:
Pard4Life wrote:
The HC schedule may be deceptively difficult. Those can be good teams but I don't recall from last season.


Could be, I guess, but none of the Cross's 2015 foes are bringing an obvious juggernaut into the season.  Last year's results:

Monmouth 6-5  Signature win was Lehigh
Towson 4-8  Signature win was Delaware
Albany 7-5  Nothing special in the win column; beat Cross and Colgate
Brown 5-5  Lost to Georgetown
Bryant 5-7  Blown out by Brown, Sacred Heart and Duquesne



Bryant was 8-3, including a win over Maine, and wasn't blown out by anyone.

Brown wasn't a powerhouse - but they did play Harvard and Yale very closely, losing to the former by a TD and to the latter by a FG.   They also beat Holy Cross.
NewXbo

bison137 wrote:
carney2 wrote:
Pard4Life wrote:
The HC schedule may be deceptively difficult. Those can be good teams but I don't recall from last season.


Could be, I guess, but none of the Cross's 2015 foes are bringing an obvious juggernaut into the season.  Last year's results:

Monmouth 6-5  Signature win was Lehigh
Towson 4-8  Signature win was Delaware
Albany 7-5  Nothing special in the win column; beat Cross and Colgate
Brown 5-5  Lost to Georgetown
Bryant 5-7  Blown out by Brown, Sacred Heart and Duquesne



Bryant was 8-3, including a win over Maine, and wasn't blown out by anyone.

Brown wasn't a powerhouse - but they did play Harvard and Yale very closely, losing to the former by a TD and to the latter by a FG.   They also beat Holy Cross.



Lets not start throwing facts into the conversation.
carney2

bison137 wrote:
Bryant was 8-3, including a win over Maine, and wasn't blown out by anyone.

Brown wasn't a powerhouse - but they did play Harvard and Yale very closely, losing to the former by a TD and to the latter by a FG.   They also beat Holy Cross.


Oops and apologies on the Bryant post.
BillS

NewXbo wrote:
bison137 wrote:
carney2 wrote:
Pard4Life wrote:
The HC schedule may be deceptively difficult. Those can be good teams but I don't recall from last season.


Could be, I guess, but none of the Cross's 2015 foes are bringing an obvious juggernaut into the season.  Last year's results:

Monmouth 6-5  Signature win was Lehigh
Towson 4-8  Signature win was Delaware
Albany 7-5  Nothing special in the win column; beat Cross and Colgate
Brown 5-5  Lost to Georgetown
Bryant 5-7  Blown out by Brown, Sacred Heart and Duquesne



Bryant was 8-3, including a win over Maine, and wasn't blown out by anyone.

Brown wasn't a powerhouse - but they did play Harvard and Yale very closely, losing to the former by a TD and to the latter by a FG.   They also beat Holy Cross.



Lets not start throwing facts into the conversation.
Carney doesn't see gray ,he only sees black and white without looking at facts and the highlights  Rolling Eyes
Bogus Megapardus

BillS wrote:
Carney doesn't see gray, he only sees black and white.


I respectfully disagree.  Carney2 is fifty shades of curmudgeon.
BillS

Bogus Megapardus wrote:
BillS wrote:
Carney doesn't see gray, he only sees black and white.


I respectfully disagree.  Carney2 is fifty shades of curmudgeon.
lol
ed65

BillS wrote:
Bogus Megapardus wrote:
BillS wrote:
Carney doesn't see gray, he only sees black and white.


I respectfully disagree.  Carney2 is fifty shades of curmudgeon.
lol


lol also.  Good to see that "curmudeonly" humor of Bogie.
Newleopardfan2

Re: Patriot League 2015 Schedules

carney2 wrote:

LAFAYETTE
William & Mary
@ Delaware
Princeton
@ Wagner
Harvard
A tough schedule but not quite as difficult as it appears.  3-2 is doable - and is a MUST to avoid yet more mediocrity.


3-2 is doable??? Really??? Well, I'll be pleasantly shocked. Which 3?
Bogus Megapardus

Re: Patriot League 2015 Schedules

Newleopardfan2 wrote:
3-2 is doable??? Really??? Well, I'll be pleasantly shocked. Which 3?


IMHO they're all winnable, individually.  But just becasue we "can" doesn't mean we "will."

Were I to hazard some irrational guesses, I'd say:

W&M @ Lafayette - 14-24 L
Lafayette @ Delaware - 20-27 L
Princeton @ Lafayette - 23-20 W (OT)
Lafayette @ Wagner - 31-21 W
Harvard @ Lafayette - 28-10 L
Newleopardfan2

Re: Patriot League 2015 Schedules

Bogus Megapardus wrote:
Newleopardfan2 wrote:
3-2 is doable??? Really??? Well, I'll be pleasantly shocked. Which 3?


IMHO they're all winnable, individually.  But just becasue we "can" doesn't mean we "will."

Were I to hazard some irrational guesses, I'd say:

W&M @ Lafayette - 14-24 L
Lafayette @ Delaware - 20-27 L
Princeton @ Lafayette - 23-20 W (OT)
Lafayette @ Wagner - 31-21 W
Harvard @ Lafayette - 28-10 L


I'll buy Wagner. But Princeton? I'm a little vague on how the whole "curse" thing works. Aren't we something like 4-40 against Princeton?
NE Leopard

Re: Patriot League 2015 Schedules

Newleopardfan2 wrote:
Bogus Megapardus wrote:
Newleopardfan2 wrote:
3-2 is doable??? Really??? Well, I'll be pleasantly shocked. Which 3?


IMHO they're all winnable, individually.  But just becasue we "can" doesn't mean we "will."

Were I to hazard some irrational guesses, I'd say:

W&M @ Lafayette - 14-24 L
Lafayette @ Delaware - 20-27 L
Princeton @ Lafayette - 23-20 W (OT)
Lafayette @ Wagner - 31-21 W
Harvard @ Lafayette - 28-10 L


I'll buy Wagner. But Princeton? I'm a little vague on how the whole "curse" thing works. Aren't we something like 4-40 against Princeton?


You are close - according to media guide 4-39-3 and last win was 2003...but let's be positive. A new year and new team.
carney2

Re: Patriot League 2015 Schedules

Newleopardfan2 wrote:
carney2 wrote:

LAFAYETTE
William & Mary
@ Delaware
Princeton
@ Wagner
Harvard
A tough schedule but not quite as difficult as it appears.  3-2 is doable - and is a MUST to avoid yet more mediocrity.


3-2 is doable??? Really??? Well, I'll be pleasantly shocked. Which 3?


Start with Princeton and Wagner.  (Yes, 5-5 [last year] Princeton who beat only Davidson, Colgate and the true Ivy bottom feeders.  Hey, even the gods take a day off once in a while.)  From there you need only one, and all three of the remaining OOC foes have problems going into 2015.

But "doable" doesn't mean we do it.  This is Lafayette, after all.  Chances of 3-2 are less than 50%, but are not near, or even approaching, zero.
carney2

Re: Patriot League 2015 Schedules

NE Leopard wrote:
Newleopardfan2 wrote:
Bogus Megapardus wrote:
Newleopardfan2 wrote:
3-2 is doable??? Really??? Well, I'll be pleasantly shocked. Which 3?


IMHO they're all winnable, individually.  But just becasue we "can" doesn't mean we "will."

Were I to hazard some irrational guesses, I'd say:

W&M @ Lafayette - 14-24 L
Lafayette @ Delaware - 20-27 L
Princeton @ Lafayette - 23-20 W (OT)
Lafayette @ Wagner - 31-21 W
Harvard @ Lafayette - 28-10 L


I'll buy Wagner. But Princeton? I'm a little vague on how the whole "curse" thing works. Aren't we something like 4-40 against Princeton?


You are close - according to media guide 4-39-3 and last win was 2003...but let's be positive. A new year and new team.


And Frank has 50% of those total wins.
carney2

Re: Patriot League 2015 Schedules

Newleopardfan2 wrote:
Bogus Megapardus wrote:
Newleopardfan2 wrote:
3-2 is doable??? Really??? Well, I'll be pleasantly shocked. Which 3?


IMHO they're all winnable, individually.  But just becasue we "can" doesn't mean we "will."

Were I to hazard some irrational guesses, I'd say:

W&M @ Lafayette - 14-24 L
Lafayette @ Delaware - 20-27 L
Princeton @ Lafayette - 23-20 W (OT)
Lafayette @ Wagner - 31-21 W
Harvard @ Lafayette - 28-10 L


I'll buy Wagner. But Princeton? I'm a little vague on how the whole "curse" thing works. Aren't we something like 4-40 against Princeton?


The Curse is real, but let's look at things from your "New," as in NEWleopardfan, perspective.  You're young and naive, so the new year, new team thing appeals to you.  What can the past possibly have to do with this year's game, right?  Ha!

But, back on topic.  Without 3-2 we are looking at 1-4...or worse.  Since Fordham will be at least as good as those teams you assume we can't beat, we are looking at 5 losses minimum.  Assuming that we beat everyone else (not likely if this is what we're looking at), we finish at 6-5 in upper mediocre land.  It beats the he!! out of lower mediocre I guess which is where we've been for a long time, but is anyone excited about that?!!!  C'mon, give me a reason to get out of bed and drive over to Fisher.
the last indian

Colgate v Princeton

I don't recall that Princeton beat Colgate last year.  Led most of the game but lost in end.
Bogus Megapardus

Re: Colgate v Princeton

the last indian wrote:
I don't recall that Princeton beat Colgate last year.  Led most of the game but lost in end.


Yep - Colgate 31, Princeton 30.  Gate was undefeated at home (except for Lafayette).  But this board never allows facts to get in the way of a well-considered argument.  It would defeat the purpose.

Also we have a curse, and we're allowed to project that curse, retrospectively, onto our dear friends in Hamilton secure in the knowledge that they'll completely understand the valid reasons for our doing so.  Not everyone is entitled to that honor.  Cool
Newleopardfan2

Re: Patriot League 2015 Schedules

carney2 wrote:
Newleopardfan2 wrote:

I'll buy Wagner. But Princeton? I'm a little vague on how the whole "curse" thing works. Aren't we something like 4-40 against Princeton?


The Curse is real, but let's look at things from your "New," as in NEWleopardfan, perspective.  You're young and naive, so the new year, new team thing appeals to you.  What can the past possibly have to do with this year's game, right?  Ha!

But, back on topic.  Without 3-2 we are looking at 1-4...or worse.  Since Fordham will be at least as good as those teams you assume we can't beat, we are looking at 5 losses minimum.  Assuming that we beat everyone else (not likely if this is what we're looking at), we finish at 6-5 in upper mediocre land.  It beats the he!! out of lower mediocre I guess which is where we've been for a long time, but is anyone excited about that?!!!  C'mon, give me a reason to get out of bed and drive over to Fisher.


New? Maybe -- only about 40 losses since I joined this Forum. Naive? Maybe -- still hopeful every Spring. Young? Hmmm... not so much. Reason to get out of bed? Because you still can! Back on topic: in my view impossible to even speculate until we know who's healthy.
flyfisher

Re: Patriot League 2015 Schedules

carney2 wrote:
Newleopardfan2 wrote:
Bogus Megapardus wrote:
Newleopardfan2 wrote:
3-2 is doable??? Really??? Well, I'll be pleasantly shocked. Which 3?


IMHO they're all winnable, individually.  But just becasue we "can" doesn't mean we "will."

Were I to hazard some irrational guesses, I'd say:

W&M @ Lafayette - 14-24 L
Lafayette @ Delaware - 20-27 L
Princeton @ Lafayette - 23-20 W (OT)
Lafayette @ Wagner - 31-21 W
Harvard @ Lafayette - 28-10 L


I'll buy Wagner. But Princeton? I'm a little vague on how the whole "curse" thing works. Aren't we something like 4-40 against Princeton?


The Curse is real, but let's look at things from your "New," as in NEWleopardfan, perspective.  You're young and naive, so the new year, new team thing appeals to you.  What can the past possibly have to do with this year's game, right?  Ha!

But, back on topic.  Without 3-2 we are looking at 1-4...or worse.  Since Fordham will be at least as good as those teams you assume we can't beat, we are looking at 5 losses minimum.  Assuming that we beat everyone else (not likely if this is what we're looking at), we finish at 6-5 in upper mediocre land.  It beats the he!! out of lower mediocre I guess which is where we've been for a long time, but is anyone excited about that?!!!  C'mon, give me a reason to get out of bed and drive over to Fisher.


I think we all see most of what you see. If we have less than 5 losses this year I think we have had a very good year. We play 2 Colonial teams (W&M, Del.) that are usually on a different level than us. Not being negative but i doubt we win those. Then you enter the next catagory of harvard and Princeton, and Wagner was no pushover last year. If we go 3-2 in those games we should be thrilled. then comes the conference with Fordham, an improved Bucknell, our nemisis in Colgate and Lehigh should be at least a little. The only weak opponents are HC and Georgetown and both of those have beaten us once in the last 2 years.

For some positives going forward, we have 2 excellent QB's going into the year. We should have a very, very good defense. Our passing game should be better with more experience at WR and TE. We dont have Ross but we have several good RB's.

On a different subject but related, I think we schedule a very tough schedule. We could win the conference with a 6-5 record.

Take a look at the scheduling philosophies of the schools in the Power 5 conferences. They typically schedule one good OOC game followed by 2-3 patsy games. Now take a look at our OOC schedule. It actually is tougher than our conference schedule. Just throwing that out there for comparison and discussion. It appears our scheduling philosophy is the opposite of the Power 5 schools. I like it and its entertaining for us but its a tough schedule. 7-4 with that schedule would be tremendous.
ed65

Re: Patriot League 2015 Schedules

flyfisher wrote:
carney2 wrote:
Newleopardfan2 wrote:
Bogus Megapardus wrote:
Newleopardfan2 wrote:
3-2 is doable??? Really??? Well, I'll be pleasantly shocked. Which 3?


IMHO they're all winnable, individually.  But just becasue we "can" doesn't mean we "will."

Were I to hazard some irrational guesses, I'd say:

W&M @ Lafayette - 14-24 L
Lafayette @ Delaware - 20-27 L
Princeton @ Lafayette - 23-20 W (OT)
Lafayette @ Wagner - 31-21 W
Harvard @ Lafayette - 28-10 L


I'll buy Wagner. But Princeton? I'm a little vague on how the whole "curse" thing works. Aren't we something like 4-40 against Princeton?


The Curse is real, but let's look at things from your "New," as in NEWleopardfan, perspective.  You're young and naive, so the new year, new team thing appeals to you.  What can the past possibly have to do with this year's game, right?  Ha!

But, back on topic.  Without 3-2 we are looking at 1-4...or worse.  Since Fordham will be at least as good as those teams you assume we can't beat, we are looking at 5 losses minimum.  Assuming that we beat everyone else (not likely if this is what we're looking at), we finish at 6-5 in upper mediocre land.  It beats the he!! out of lower mediocre I guess which is where we've been for a long time, but is anyone excited about that?!!!  C'mon, give me a reason to get out of bed and drive over to Fisher.


I think we all see most of what you see. If we have less than 5 losses this year I think we have had a very good year. We play 2 Colonial teams (W&M, Del.) that are usually on a different level than us. Not being negative but i doubt we win those. Then you enter the next catagory of harvard and Princeton, and Wagner was no pushover last year. If we go 3-2 in those games we should be thrilled. then comes the conference with Fordham, an improved Bucknell, our nemisis in Colgate and Lehigh should be at least a little. The only weak opponents are HC and Georgetown and both of those have beaten us once in the last 2 years.

For some positives going forward, we have 2 excellent QB's going into the year. We should have a very, very good defense. Our passing game should be better with more experience at WR and TE. We dont have Ross but we have several good RB's.

On a different subject but related, I think we schedule a very tough schedule. We could win the conference with a 6-5 record.

Take a look at the scheduling philosophies of the schools in the Power 5 conferences. They typically schedule one good OOC game followed by 2-3 patsy games. Now take a look at our OOC schedule. It actually is tougher than our conference schedule. Just throwing that out there for comparison and discussion. It appears our scheduling philosophy is the opposite of the Power 5 schools. I like it and its entertaining for us but its a tough schedule. 7-4 with that schedule would be tremendous.


I really like tough schedules especially to prepare for a schedule like ours where the most meaningful games are at the end of the season. However, if a lot of injuries occur in the tough early season games then it is a different story.  The Power 5 conference's "philosophy" that fly so accurately refers to are all about positioning for the somewhat arbitrary ratings situation.  I would rather see the Power 5 have a playoff system like the bowl subdivision (or whatever nonsensical name the former 1AA is called).
CHIP72

Slightly OT, but I'm already planning on attending Princeton/Lafayette and Penn/Lehigh on 9/19.  Looking forward to both.
carney2

CHIP72 wrote:
Slightly OT, but I'm already planning on attending Princeton/Lafayette and Penn/Lehigh on 9/19.  Looking forward to both.


Another doubleheader possibility appears to be October 3rd:  Yale @ Lehigh and Fordham @ Lafayette.
CHIP72

carney2 wrote:
CHIP72 wrote:
Slightly OT, but I'm already planning on attending Princeton/Lafayette and Penn/Lehigh on 9/19. Looking forward to both.


Another doubleheader possibility appears to be October 3rd:  Yale @ Lehigh and Fordham @ Lafayette.


Hmm, indeed.  I'll pass on that one though - making the 3 1/2 to 4 hour each way trip to visit the parents is something I like do only about every two months, plus Eagles/Redskins at FedEx Field is that weekend. Smile

With luck, Lafayette (or the team in Bethlehem) will be hosting a first-round playoff game on Thanksgiving weekend for the next visit after the aforementioned September visit.  (It's also possible Lafayette or Lehigh could have a home men's basketball game that weekend.)  Very Happy
Pard4Life

All game times have been released online.

Every game up to and including Fordham starts at 6pm.

At Georgetown is at 2pm (?)

At Holy Cross 1pm

Harvard and Bucknell at 330.

Colgate at 1pm... good move being the first week of November.

Stain at 1230.  Because they don't have lights. Are they the only D-I school lacking lights?
SIDELINER

What is "cruel and unusual punishment?" How about five consecutive 6 p.m. games.    Does get any worse than that?
Pard4Life

SIDELINER wrote:
What is "cruel and unusual punishment?" How about five consecutive 6 p.m. games.    Does get any worse than that?


What's wrong with that? No 6pm night games in November. I'll take it.
bethlehempard

This may be a stupid and obvious question but why are games played at 6? Do they draw more fans in the evening? My informal poll indicated afternoon games are preferred. 1 p.m. is the right time for college ball.
Pard4Life

bethlehempard wrote:
This may be a stupid and obvious question but why are games played at 6? Do they draw more fans in the evening? My informal poll indicated afternoon games are preferred. 1 p.m. is the right time for college ball.


Evening games are more attended, also by students too.

I like the 6pm games earlier in the year: not too hot and you get some nice sunsets. I think it helps the team too: more time to get ready. Plus you are done at 9pm and won't be falling asleep on the ride home.
Bogus Megapardus

I'm a little surprised that Harvard agreed to 3:30.  Usually they insist on 12:30 or 1:00, don't they?  Also W&M at 6:00 - that's a long ride home.
sader87

The era of most games at 12:30 or 1 o'clock kickoffs is (sadly) probably coming to an end soon for most.

HC has a had a few night games ovah the last few years and they were nearly all the best attended games every season.

Different era today...too much going on for a lot of fans/families on Saturday mornings/afternoons.
Pard4Life

Bogus Megapardus wrote:
I'm a little surprised that Harvard agreed to 3:30.  Usually they insist on 12:30 or 1:00, don't they?  Also W&M at 6:00 - that's a long ride home.


Good point, Harvard usually complains.

We've had as late games at WM so it's a mutual thing. Plus WM has had late games in these parts before as a CAA team.

I don't get Georgetown at 2pm. That time makes no sense. 330 is fine because it coincides with the end of the 1230, noon game TV broadcasts.

Smart move making the times earlier as the season progresses.
Pard4Life

sader87 wrote:
The era of most games at 12:30 or 1 o'clock kickoffs is (sadly) probably coming to an end soon for most.

HC has a had a few night games ovah the last few years and they were nearly all the best attended games every season.

Different era today...too much going on for a lot of fans/families on Saturday mornings/afternoons.


Don't think those early games will go extinct because TV always needs games. Remember, at the FBS level, that's all that matters. Rutgers and B10 teams usually play at noon, as does ACC.

We are more flexible at FCS and there are still many games at 1pm.  I like 6pm because its not hot outside, the sun is going down, I can see other games and get back in time to see the end of the national TV game. Plus, Fisher looks its best under the lights.
carney2

In the past I believe that 3:30 starts were to give CBS Sports Network televising options.  With them apparently not televising Patriot League games this year, 3:30 kickoffs are somewhat baffling.

Happy to see that cooler heads have prevailed however, and the 6:00 kickoffs end by mid October as was "promised" when the lights were installed.
DFW HOYA

Pard4Life wrote:


I don't get Georgetown at 2pm. That time makes no sense. 330 is fine because it coincides with the end of the 1230, noon game TV broadcasts.


It must be for that PL Network game. Oops, wait a minute...  Rolling Eyes

The game is at 2:00 because it's Homecoming and they always push the game out to cover the pre-game activities. Given more construction, they may have to relocate the events elsewhere on campus.
Bogus Megapardus

And in related news the historic, first-ever broadcast of the legendary 2011 "FiOS Game" will take place Tuesday at 7:49 AM - on Pluto.

Check your local listings.
ed65

Bogus Megapardus wrote:
And in related news the historic, first-ever broadcast of the legendary 2011 "FiOS Game" will take place Tuesday at 7:49 AM - on Pluto.

Check your local listings.


Pluto makes the news again.  Even more tomorrow when the pics hopefully come back from Radio Pluto.

Very funny, Bogey.  A definite chuckle on my part.
Bogus Megapardus

ed65 wrote:
Even more tomorrow when the pics hopefully come back from Radio Pluto.


Unless Lehigh engineers are involved.  One can only pray they are not.

Fortunately, Georgetown does not offer any sort of engineering degree ("unpaid political intern" remains the most popular major at 37th and O) and even the hacks at FiOS likely aren't astute enough to interfere with encrypted, deep space X-Band transmissions within the 8-12 GHz range.

So there's hope yet.  But I do hope the Plutonians enjoy the game, whomsoever they might be.

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