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pards123

Patriot League Championship - In Game

I might be the only one posting in here, but I don't care. Go Pards!
2012Pard

How's it going?  My go-to pirated stream isn't working at the moment...
pards123

This is going to be a tough one. Doesn't appear like American is going to be missing much, just like in the game in DC.

12-10 American 6 minutes in
bethlehempard

AU is playing very well but Dan has no fouls. It's tight.
pards123

Leopards first lead of the day, 17-15 halfway through the game. American with a lot of turnovers so far.
2012Pard

Thanks for the updates.  I've found a working stream.  Looks like it may be a heck of a game.
pards123

Steve with the good call about Trist staying back on Vasic
pards123

This is probably the best D we've played all year. Guess they were saving it for when it counts
bethlehempard

Rufer: 2 bench points.
pards123

Huge 3 from Seth
bethlehempard

Maybe Nick and Dan both deserved POY more than Kempton.
2012Pard

Up 32-24 with 25 seconds left in the first half.
pards123

Shocked Fran let Dan play that last defensive possession. Regardless, a pretty darn good first half for Lafayette.
2012Pard

And 34-25 at the half,  all three points since my last update are from foul shots.
bethlehempard

StatsTeam Stats
Team Stats AMER LAF
Shooting 9-21 (.429) 13-19 (.684)
3PT Shooting 6-8 (.750) 3-6 (.500)
Free Throws 1-4 (.250) 5-5 (1.000)
Rebounds 4-8 2-11
Assists 7 6
Steals 4 3
Blocks 0 1
Turnovers 10 10
Fouls         5 5
65Pard

Playing great..... but I have to go pick up my wife at airport so I will miss last minutes.... any Sirius  coverage?

FOH coach of the year
pards123

Sirius 119 per this site:

http://www.siriusxm.com/collegebasketballschedule
flyfisher

Is this game on anywhere?
2012Pard

flyfisher wrote:
Is this game on anywhere?


CBS Sports, or http://www.gofeed2all.eu/watch/32.../watch-american-vs-lafayette.html

Note:  Don't click that link without adblock plus installed.  Be careful what you click on, it's all full of viruses if you click on the wrong things.  But it works and it's safe if you're careful.

Edit:  Up 40-27 with 17:32 left in the 2nd half.
65Pard

pards123 wrote:
Sirius 119 per this site:

http://www.siriusxm.com/collegebasketballschedule


Thanks
flyfisher

Thanks guys
flyfisher

Got nothing but thank you. throw me some updates guys.
bethlehempard

50-44 and AU has a free throw coming.
50-45 9:03 AU fighting back.
Franks Tanks

4 straight turnovers and defensive lapses have cut our lead to 3.  Lets go!!!!
2012Pard

Lafayette up 56-55 with about 3 minutes to go.  Looks like it'll come down to the wire.  American briefly had the lead a few minutes ago.

Edit:  Now up 59-55.

Another edit:  61-60 with a minute left.  Joey's been out for a few minutes with a cramp.

And another edit:  Up 63-60 with 13.7 seconds left, American just fouled us.  Looks like we'll probably win by the skin of our teeth, but American still has a chance.
flyfisher

Hang on guys, hang on. Lafayette needs this. It would be a good year.
bethlehempard

65-60 14.5 left. AU ball. LC is going to win. Gardner has been great.
4.6 left. LC ball. It's over.
2012Pard

Final score 65-63, Lafayette wins!  On to the tournament!

First PL basketball championship I've seen since I started following Lafayette sports in 2008.  Honestly, I think I'm most happy for Jim Finnen, who got to be the announcer for Lafayette winning a berth in the NCAA tournament, against all(well, most) odds.
flyfisher

Congratulations to all the LC alumni. Very happy for all of you. And happy for the coach and team as well. What a year. Victory at 150 and The Dance.
bethlehempard

John Leone was right: there was a title in this class: Alan, Dan, Joey and Seth.
flyfisher

I am really happy for the coach. Some said he was too old, too this, too that, out of touch. Well, he's conference champ and going to the big Dance.
jonnymo

Chest bumping all night with my ten year old son. There is a lot to comment on but I am spent. Congrats to American. That team has a lot of heart and class. So proud of our guys tonight. I will be travelling if east coast location. Will sleep well tonight my forum friends.
BillS

jonnymo wrote:
Chest bumping all night with my ten year old son. There is a lot to comment on but I am spent. Congrats to American. That team has a lot of heart and class. So proud of our guys tonight. I will be travelling if east coast location. Will sleep well tonight my forum friends.
Whew nail biter at the end....Awesome win now on to the big Dance! I'm sure Carney will find something wrong with this but I couldn't be happier!
Lafalum

I am spent.we survive a very scrappy team and the usual spate of truly horrendous calls
jonnymo

Gottlieb's commentary post game was the only negative for me tonight. I respect the heck out of Bucknell but I think Lafayette will represent even better than the Bison would have this year in the tournament.  Why would anyone want to change the brilliance of the automatic bid? Controversial for the sake of being controversial. Not a fan.
Franks Tanks

jonnymo wrote:
Gottlieb's commentary post game was the only negative for me tonight. I respect the heck out of Bucknell but I think Lafayette will represent even better than the Bison would have this year in the tournament.  Why would anyone want to change the brilliance of the automatic bid? Controversial for the sake of being controversial. Not a fan.


Gottlieb is an idiot, for many reasons!  This wasn't a Murray State situation.   He acts like we pulled a major upset beating Bucknell, and Bucknell would've been a 10 seed.  We finished with a better record overall than Bucknell, and beat them 2 out of 3 times this year.  Bucknell's RPI is about 15-20 slots higher so no big deal.

I wouldn't mind getting a PIG frankly.  We can get an official NCAA tourney win!
pards123

What a great win and great run. Very proud of the team.
Bogus Megapardus

Just back from the game.  Boy, was that fun.  Kirby rocked all night.

AU was very good - congrats to them on a fine season.  But mostly, kudos to our guys for hanging in there.  So many things could have gone wrong, and almost did.

It was a pleasure to be there.
Pard4Life

Woooooooooo!!!

What a game! Leone's prophecy was true!

Student section one can argue had an important effect on the outcome.

That was loud!

Congrats coach and the seniors! Awesome win! Awesome run! We beat the three teams we always have trouble with. We won at Skoja and beat Boston and AU.  Keep on dancing!
Pard4Life

BillS wrote:
jonnymo wrote:
Chest bumping all night with my ten year old son. There is a lot to comment on but I am spent. Congrats to American. That team has a lot of heart and class. So proud of our guys tonight. I will be travelling if east coast location. Will sleep well tonight my forum friends.
Whew nail biter at the end....Awesome win now on to the big Dance! I'm sure Carney will find something wrong with this but I couldn't be happier!


I saw C2 from across the court. He seemed about a 9 on the 10 point happy scale... only because we were not playing Lehigh and burying them in the dirt in Goodman.  But a title is a title!
Bogus Megapardus

Worried about Joey - he could not walk and had to be helped by coach and trainer to center court during the post-game.  Will he get to dance?
ed65

Total satisfaction with this win and a 20 win season.  On to the Tournament and most likely a very tough first round opponent.

We had the whole sports bar in Charleston SC rooting for our Leopards.  A truly good effort by the team (an coaching staff) in spite of an amazing and gutsy comeback by AU.
seenalot

HUGE game for Rufer who likely would not have been on court if Joey not hurt - hopefully just bad cramps.  A little too much standing around for my liking - but hey we won so what do I know.  Way too many really bad TOs nearly sunk this.  

Officials tried to be the stars in 1st half and were bad throughout but equally so for AU.

Gottlieb can go screw himself - not the forum for his rant and other panelist seemed bothered by it as well.
Kpard

FOH seems to "steal" minutes with his substitutions and did it again tonight. Lindner was a killer but Hoffman and especially Rufer made some big plays. Zach was on the floor for loose balls, made a key 3 and two huge rebounds down the stretch. One to extend a possession and the one one the defensive end that sealed it. Great group, a fun time, let's dance!

Saw lots of former players in attendance. Brian Ehlers, Jamie Hughes, Tim Bieg, Ted Cole, Jay Mottola.
flyfisher

Ed65, you live in Charleston?
carney2

The big plus of "being there" is to be part of it.  The big negative is that you sometimes can't see everything.  From my vantage point it appeared that AU was playing great defense, denying the 3 and denying Trist who had a size advantage down low.  The guys behind me wouldn't stop with "Get it to Dan in the post" and "C'mon, Fran, put the ball inside."  Somehow, it didn't look that easy.  I guess I just missed Laubach and Leone.

Word is that Ptasinski had cramps.  If true, that's the second time in these playoffs.  He'd better start drinking some pickle juice before games.  It works!

Kudos to Rufer.  Great minutes off the bench.  Newspaper said that AU got one minute from their bench.  How'd you like to be a sub for Mike Brennan?  Four months of bus rides and front row seats.

Not a sellout.  Both seats next to me were vacant.  Perhaps that was arranged by Xbo.
leopard88

Lunardi now has our boys as a straight No. 16 (no First Four) vs. 'Nova.  I can live with that.
65Pard

George Davidson,Butch Van Breda Kolff, Roy Chipman, Dr Tom Davis....now add FOH to the list of great LC coaches ....

Given the framework he has to work within, he has done a great job.
ed65

65Pard wrote:
George Davidson,Butch Van Breda Kolff, Roy Chipman, Dr Tom Davis....now add FOH to the list of great LC coaches ....

Given the framework he has to work within, he has done a great job.


Totally agree with 65Pard.  Fran gets no help from the Admissions Dept. and no transfers,  I'm hoping Byerly will see the wisdom and PR Value of a winning D-1 Sports Program.
leopard88

65Pard wrote:
George Davidson,Butch Van Breda Kolff, Roy Chipman, Dr Tom Davis....now add FOH to the list of great LC coaches ....

Given the framework he has to work within, he has done a great job.


I think he was on that list long before last night.
SixtyEighter

It was great to see the number of students in attendance. Generally they seem to be indifferent to the sports teams.It was great to see them come out. Spadola did mention the tough academics but only once.It is a tribute to this team that it overcame so much adversity to win the championship.First the horrible start to league play, then the flu, then two tourney games on the road.Brennan's game plan was to take Trist out of his game which worked but the others stepped up even though it was a struggle. Rufer was the unsung hero and Nick earned his MVP. Rufer played great during his regular minutes and fabulously when he filled in for Ptasinski at the end when the game was in the balance.The team also overcame 18 turnovers and defended and rebounded great. It was tremendous  to see them exert a collective will to win at the end when things were going south All in all a great effort and a season and tournament  for the school's sports annals. I rate it even better than the 50-28 win over Lehigh 2 years ago for the PL football championship and that was a great win.I am also very happy for FOH who has been a constant for 20 years through the non scholarship fiasco and the near hostile neglect of  athletics by Rothkopf and Weiss.The last 5 years have shown what a great tourney coach he is.Plus he is a decent human being in general.We are lucky to have him.
ed65

SixtyEighter wrote:
It was great to see the number of students in attendance. Generally they seem to be indifferent to the sports teams.It was great to see them come out. Spadola did mention the tough academics but only once.It is a tribute to this team that it overcame so much adversity to win the championship.First the horrible start to league play, then the flu, then two tourney games on the road.Brennan's game plan was to take Trist out of his game which worked but the others stepped up even though it was a struggle. Rufer was the unsung hero and Nick earned his MVP. Rufer played great during his regular minutes and fabulously when he filled in for Ptasinski at the end when the game was in the balance.The team also overcame 18 turnovers and defended and rebounded great. It was tremendous  to see them exert a collective will to win at the end when things were going south All in all a great effort and a season and tournament  for the school's sports annals. I rate it even better than the 50-28 win over Lehigh 2 years ago for the PL football championship and that was a great win.I am also very happy for FOH who has been a constant for 20 years through the non scholarship fiasco and the near hostile neglect of  athletics by Rothkopf and Weiss.The last 5 years have shown what a great tourney coach he is.Plus he is a decent human being in general.We are lucky to have him.


Saying that "the near hostile neglect of athletics by Rothkoph and Weiss" is being charitable.  I was not on speaking terms with either of them, and I think both Presidencies were disasters for LC.  I'd be happy to "chat" with anyone off line about this.  I continue to have a lot of hope for Byerly,  Plus I think the Board needs a major revamp, and the airy fairy art , dance, gender bender and liberal arts folks should become the minority.  We are a D-1 Athletics school and we need to start to act like it.
Lafalum

Athletics and some extent the greek the system is what binds us together. We have had presidents who were narcissistic liars. But they are gone and I have hopes for Byerly. Events like last night and this fall at 150 is what today's undergraduates will remember.
I agree we have leadership on the BOT that insists at looking at world through  the lens of 20 years ago. They are out of touch with alumni and in my opinion damaged our brand and the school is many ways. Time to say Bye Bye.
Kpard

We shot 63%, 53%, and 65% in our playoff run. Good stuff.

This team was built just like FOH likes it. A smart, savvy, point guard who can penetrate, score and distribute. Some shooters at the 2 & 3. A guy who can play the 2, 3, or 4 spot. And a center who can go inside, step outside, and handle the ball and pass. Plus they all came together down the stretch.

In addition, this game featured the PL Academic player of the year and two other PL first team Academic players in Hinrichs and Ptasinski.

Great run, great to have a championship, great to get a 20 win season.

Now, on to the Madness!!!!!!!!!!
NewXbo

Kudos to the marketing folks for the very creative "O Zone" tees, because we were definitely in the O Zone.

For some reason the play by play and game statistics are not posted yet.

We got a little lazy in the second half when AU started jumping the passing lanes. For the most part we played under control but had a few moments when we played too fast.  Our shot selection overall was good.

Officiating was good, as it was at Bucknell, although Darius got away with one of his flops. Officials let some minor stuff go keeping the best players on the floor.

Worst decision of the night was to have the "event staff", most of whom are in their 60s and 70s, try to restrain the students from storming the court. A few of the them were knocked to the ground.

Good to see James Finnen was able to return as announcer after a nasty fall at Bucknell and a trip to the hospital.

An yes Carney, I did purchase the tickets next to you and tried to buy the ones in front and behind you to create a "cone of silence" around the negativity zone. The people in front and behind you approached me after the game and said they wished they took my offer:).
Andy

Kpard wrote:
FOH seems to "steal" minutes with his substitutions and did it again tonight. Lindner was a killer but Hoffman and especially Rufer made some big plays. Zach was on the floor for loose balls, made a key 3 and two huge rebounds down the stretch. One to extend a possession and the one one the defensive end that sealed it. Great group, a fun time, let's dance!

Saw lots of former players in attendance. Brian Ehlers, Jamie Hughes, Tim Bieg, Ted Cole, Jay Mottola.


Jim Mower, Delaney, both Detmers, Ben Wheeler. The Voice told me Ehlers was there, wished I had seen him.

Rufer has the knack of making the most of his minutes. Makes plays, makes a difference, affects games in limited PT. Just fun to watch it happen. Realy nice family, too.

My son watched on TV and said the announcers (and my kid) were screaming for the ball to go low to Trist.  Apparently Fran just anticipated AU's focus on him and had changed the game plan.  XBO confirmed this to me and I look forward to Steve's analysis of that move.

Congrats to players, staff, students and ticket office for getting the job done!
adcs2

"First the horrible start to league play, then the flu, then two tourney games on the road."

We only played one road game in postseason (BUCKNELL).
carney2

ed65 wrote:
I'm hoping Byerly will see the wisdom and PR Value of a winning D-1 Sports Program.


I sat near Her Prezness and she seemed to be enjoying herself.  Couldn't drag myself away from the action however to see if she was "into it."

She also attended the Boston University game last week.

I still like her, but the jury will remain out for a few more years.
Bogus Megapardus

I like this CBSSports.com tagline - "Tiny Dancers."

http://www.cbssports.com/collegeb...s-dancing-after-a-15-year-absence
The Maroon

leopard88 wrote:
65Pard wrote:
George Davidson,Butch Van Breda Kolff, Roy Chipman, Dr Tom Davis....now add FOH to the list of great LC coaches ....

Given the framework he has to work within, he has done a great job.


I think he was on that list long before last night.


Definitely
Pard4Life

Here's a funny one:

I highballed it to LC from work and only had time to grab a sandwich from Farinon.  As I sat eating at about 645, watching the Fordham game on TV, a kid asks me "Is that the Lafayette game?"

I stared at him as if he had just asked me a question in another language.

"No," I finally said. "It starts at 730."

I'll cut the kid some slack, he seemed like a space cadet.

I say about 800 students showed. If all of them did, there would be no room for us!
Steve

It wasn't always pretty, with all the turnovers, but it was an exciting, closely contested game, and it ended up being a lot of fun for us Leopard fans.

On defense, we played them man-to-man all the way and really focused on defending the backdoor cut.  I haven't watched the recording of the game yet, but off the top of my head, I don't think I can recall AU scoring a basket off a backdoor cut.  Vasic scored a couple of times when Trist switched off him coming off of a ball screen, but that's not a backdoor cut.  In order to defend against the back cuts, we had to give a little space on the perimeter, and the Eagles hurt us throughout the game on 3-pointers.  They also hurt us in the first half with some offensive rebounds, which twice led to 3-pointers.  Reed, Jones and Schoof each had 2 threes in the first half, while Gardner didn't score in that half (although he had 4 assists).  Trist did drop off Vasic on the perimeter, and Vasic, who played a very good game overall, never was able to hit an outside shot.  In the 1st half, although we gave up many 3-pointers, we were very effective in defending 2-point shots.  AU did miss some shots on drives that were good shots.

We started slowly, but eventually picked it up in the first half.  AU plays that 2-3 zone in a unique style, really matching up out of it, and even having defenders switch positions in the zone in the middle of a possession.  The fact that they have no starter over 6'5", while a disadvantage in some respects, enables them to be very flexible in the zone, because there is no one defender who has to stay near the basket to protect the rim.  It gives them tremendous flexibility.  I'm not sure any other D1 team plays the defense quite like that, and it makes it difficult to attack.  You end up having to run man-to-man sets against them, but AU still gets the benefit of zone help D down low.

AU focused its D toward preventing Trist from getting the ball in good scoring position in the post, so Dan never got to take many shots throughout the game.  In doing so, AU made itself somewhat vulnerable in defending against the outside shot, and we hurt them with threes throughout the game.  In the first half, both teams turned the ball over a lot.  We did a good job of converting some of their turnovers into transition points.  Also, Nick did a very good job of driving to the basket, especially in the first half.  A number of times in the first half, he beat Vasic on drives to the hoop after Vasic switched places in the zone to cover one of the high spots, and found himself having to defend Nick.  Although Vasic showed that he is considerably quicker than Trist, he was no match for Lindner's quickness, and Nick scored off of him several times. Nick largely dominated the first half on offense.  Joey scored all of his points in the first half, and Seth used his height to score over the shorter AU defenders in drives and pull-ups.

In the second half, it appeared that AU adjusted its defense somewhat in an attempt to keep Lindner fromdriving.  It looked like they avoided as much as possible having Vasic switch to one of the high positions in the 2-3 zone, to prevent him from having to defend Nick on the perimeter.  It looked like they tried to match up Gardner defensively against Nick on the perimeter as much as possible in the 2nd half, and that cut down on Nick's drives to the paint.  They still helped out to prevent Trist from getting the ball in the low post, and were successful in doing so.

AU stopped turning the ball over in the 2nd half, but we did not.  When we got shots, we scored, shooting an excellent 65% from the field; but we turned the ball over so much, we had trouble getting shots.  Some of the turnovers were forced by the Eagles' active defense, but some were not.  We might have gotten thrown off somewhat by the unique matchup zone and our difficulty in attacking it.

After Scott and Hoffman hit 3-pointers at the beginning of the half, our lead grew to 13, and, given the pace at which AU plays, it looked like we might pull away from them.  However, AU fought back tenaciously throughout the 2nd half.  Gardner really stepped up his game in the 2nd half, beating us on drives to the hoop and threes.  Vasic also scored often in the 2nd half.  I really like the way he moves without the ball and battles for offensive rebounds.  The Eagles scored on many more 2-point shots in the 2nd half than in the 1st.

After we opened the lead to 13, AU cut it to 6, but then we stretched it to 12 again, on 3 straight baskets by Hinrichs.  Then, AU went on a 17-3 run, to take the lead by 2 on a 3-point play by Vasic.  We turned the ball over a lot during that stretch.  I was getting pessimistic at that point, given how much our offense was struggling with turnovers.  However, as soon as AU took their only lead, our players really stepped up and made the big plays we had to make down the stretch.  Hinrichs hit a 3 off of a nice skip pass by Bryce with 4 & 1/2 minutes left, and that ended up being the last lead change of the game.  

Rufer has received much deserved praise for his contributions late in the game.  (He had a nice follow-up basket off a missed 3-pointer in the 1st half, as well.)  He cemented his place in Leopard basketball history on that one possession with less than 3 minutes left, when he made a great hustle play to secure an offensive rebound just before it went out of bounds and, after we ran our offense, hit a huge 3 off of another nice skip pass from Scott.  Those may have been the plays of the game for us.

Down the stretch, our offense really clicked.  On our next possession, Nick drove and made a beautiful feed to a cutting Trist as the shot clock wound down.  Then, after Gardner hit a huge 3-pointer. we ran a ball screen, which caused Schoof to have to switch and cover Lindner, instead of Gardner, and Nick beat Schoof on the drive and drew a foul.

On AU's last meaningful possession, Seth did a nice job jumping out on Schoof against the corner 3, and Zach made another big play by securing the rebound.  Lindner was fouled on the inbound play, and his two free throws sealed the win.

I'm very happy for the team and the coaches, especially the seniors, that they were able to win the league title and will get the chance to play in the NCAAs.  Things didn't go exactly as planned -- with Seth's injury last year and the struggles during portions of the PL regular season -- but when it mattered most the team played their best ball of the season, and in the semifinals and finals, the players executed the offense extremely well during crunch time.

It often hasn't been easy being a Leopard basketball fan in the years since our last league title.  First there were the non-scholarship years, where we suffered a series of bad losses while trying to compete on a playing field that wasn't level.  Then, in recent years, it wasn't easy watching three losses in PL final games in four years, although we were underdogs playing on the road in each of those games.  If we had lost yesterday's game at home after being up double digits in the 2nd half, that would have been very difficult for me to take.  One thing about going through tough times as a fan -- it makes you appreciate the league championship that much more when the team wins it.  I was very, very happy yesterday.

I don't want to make this long post even longer, but I have to say how much I enjoyed the atmosphere at yesterday's game.  By a huge margin, it's the best atmosphere for any game at the renovated Kirby.  Although the student attendance wasn't great at most of the regular season games, they did a great job of showing up with great enthusiasm yesterday, and at the quarterfinal and semifinal games as well.  Hopefully, the enjoyable experience yesterday will lead to more of that in the future.
Kpard

Steve wrote:
It wasn't always pretty, with all the turnovers, but it was an exciting, closely contested game, and it ended up being a lot of fun for us Leopard fans.

On defense, we played them man-to-man all the way and really focused on defending the backdoor cut.  I haven't watched the recording of the game yet, but off the top of my head, I don't think I can recall AU scoring a basket off a backdoor cut.  Vasic scored a couple of times when Trist switched off him coming off of a ball screen, but that's not a backdoor cut.  In order to defend against the back cuts, we had to give a little space on the perimeter, and the Eagles hurt us throughout the game on 3-pointers.  They also hurt us in the first half with some offensive rebounds, which twice led to 3-pointers.  Reed, Jones and Schoof each had 2 threes in the first half, while Gardner didn't score in that half (although he had 4 assists).  Trist did drop off Vasic on the perimeter, and Vasic, who played a very good game overall, never was able to hit an outside shot.  In the 1st half, although we gave up many 3-pointers, we were very effective in defending 2-point shots.  AU did miss some shots on drives that were good shots.

We started slowly, but eventually picked it up in the first half.  AU plays that 2-3 zone in a unique style, really matching up out of it, and even having defenders switch positions in the zone in the middle of a possession.  The fact that they have no starter over 6'5", while a disadvantage in some respects, enables them to be very flexible in the zone, because there is no one defender who has to stay near the basket to protect the rim.  It gives them tremendous flexibility.  I'm not sure any other D1 team plays the defense quite like that, and it makes it difficult to attack.  You end up having to run man-to-man sets against them, but AU still gets the benefit of zone help D down low.

AU focused its D toward preventing Trist from getting the ball in good scoring position in the post, so Dan never got to take many shots throughout the game.  In doing so, AU made itself somewhat vulnerable in defending against the outside shot, and we hurt them with threes throughout the game.  In the first half, both teams turned the ball over a lot.  We did a good job of converting some of their turnovers into transition points.  Also, Nick did a very good job of driving to the basket, especially in the first half.  A number of times in the first half, he beat Vasic on drives to the hoop after Vasic switched places in the zone to cover one of the high spots, and found himself having to defend Nick.  Although Vasic showed that he is considerably quicker than Trist, he was no match for Lindner's quickness, and Nick scored off of him several times. Nick largely dominated the first half on offense.  Joey scored all of his points in the first half, and Seth used his height to score over the shorter AU defenders in drives and pull-ups.

In the second half, it appeared that AU adjusted its defense somewhat in an attempt to keep Lindner fromdriving.  It looked like they avoided as much as possible having Vasic switch to one of the high positions in the 2-3 zone, to prevent him from having to defend Nick on the perimeter.  It looked like they tried to match up Gardner defensively against Nick on the perimeter as much as possible in the 2nd half, and that cut down on Nick's drives to the paint.  They still helped out to prevent Trist from getting the ball in the low post, and were successful in doing so.

AU stopped turning the ball over in the 2nd half, but we did not.  When we got shots, we scored, shooting an excellent 65% from the field; but we turned the ball over so much, we had trouble getting shots.  Some of the turnovers were forced by the Eagles' active defense, but some were not.  We might have gotten thrown off somewhat by the unique matchup zone and our difficulty in attacking it.

After Scott and Hoffman hit 3-pointers at the beginning of the half, our lead grew to 13, and, given the pace at which AU plays, it looked like we might pull away from them.  However, AU fought back tenaciously throughout the 2nd half.  Gardner really stepped up his game in the 2nd half, beating us on drives to the hoop and threes.  Vasic also scored often in the 2nd half.  I really like the way he moves without the ball and battles for offensive rebounds.  The Eagles scored on many more 2-point shots in the 2nd half than in the 1st.

After we opened the lead to 13, AU cut it to 6, but then we stretched it to 12 again, on 3 straight baskets by Hinrichs.  Then, AU went on a 17-3 run, to take the lead by 2 on a 3-point play by Vasic.  We turned the ball over a lot during that stretch.  I was getting pessimistic at that point, given how much our offense was struggling with turnovers.  However, as soon as AU took their only lead, our players really stepped up and made the big plays we had to make down the stretch.  Hinrichs hit a 3 off of a nice skip pass by Bryce with 4 & 1/2 minutes left, and that ended up being the last lead change of the game.  

Rufer has received much deserved praise for his contributions late in the game.  (He had a nice follow-up basket off a missed 3-pointer in the 1st half, as well.)  He cemented his place in Leopard basketball history on that one possession with less than 3 minutes left, when he made a great hustle play to secure an offensive rebound just before it went out of bounds and, after we ran our offense, hit a huge 3 off of another nice skip pass from Scott.  Those may have been the plays of the game for us.

Down the stretch, our offense really clicked.  On our next possession, Nick drove and made a beautiful feed to a cutting Trist as the shot clock wound down.  Then, after Gardner hit a huge 3-pointer. we ran a ball screen, which caused Schoof to have to switch and cover Lindner, instead of Gardner, and Nick beat Schoof on the drive and drew a foul.

On AU's last meaningful possession, Seth did a nice job jumping out on Schoof against the corner 3, and Zach made another big play by securing the rebound.  Lindner was fouled on the inbound play, and his two free throws sealed the win.

I'm very happy for the team and the coaches, especially the seniors, that they were able to win the league title and will get the chance to play in the NCAAs.  Things didn't go exactly as planned -- with Seth's injury last year and the struggles during portions of the PL regular season -- but when it mattered most the team played their best ball of the season, and in the semifinals and finals, the players executed the offense extremely well during crunch time.

It often hasn't been easy being a Leopard basketball fan in the years since our last league title.  First there were the non-scholarship years, where we suffered a series of bad losses while trying to compete on a playing field that wasn't level.  Then, in recent years, it wasn't easy watching three losses in PL final games in four years, although we were underdogs playing on the road in each of those games.  If we had lost yesterday's game at home after being up double digits in the 2nd half, that would have been very difficult for me to take.  One thing about going through tough times as a fan -- it makes you appreciate the league championship that much more when the team wins it.  I was very, very happy yesterday.

I don't want to make this long post even longer, but I have to say how much I enjoyed the atmosphere at yesterday's game.  By a huge margin, it's the best atmosphere for any game at the renovated Kirby.  Although the student attendance wasn't great at most of the regular season games, they did a great job of showing up with great enthusiasm yesterday, and at the quarterfinal and semifinal games as well.  Hopefully, the enjoyable experience yesterday will lead to more of that in the future.


As always, great post. And hear, hear!
bethlehempard

Meanwhile, NJIT has paid $36,000 to get a home game in the CIT and is in talks to join the MEAC.
One has has to admire their desire.
Their gym seats 1,500. To break even they would have to sell out at about $24 per ticket. That doesn't count expenses or any concession revenue.
leopard88

Steve wrote:

Rufer has received much deserved praise for his contributions late in the game.  (He had a nice follow-up basket off a missed 3-pointer in the 1st half, as well.)  He cemented his place in Leopard basketball history on that one possession with less than 3 minutes left, when he made a great hustle play to secure an offensive rebound just before it went out of bounds and, after we ran our offense, hit a huge 3 off of another nice skip pass from Scott.  Those may have been the plays of the game for us.


I wholeheartedly agree.
SixtyEighter

Sorry for the error re: the BU tourney game.
Refrider

Points to ponder:
Playing or appearing in the finals was NOT: Coach of the Year and Player of the Year.  How Dan didn't POY is unbelievable.
How quickly at the beginning of the season individuals on this board were quick to want to remove Fran and say how this season is a disappointment.  Yet, all of a sudden all this love is being shown to Fran and the team.  Maybe we should judge a whole season and not make judgements (positive or negative) after just a few games.
I too agree that the students did a great job during the tournament.  Yet, their involvement over the course of the season was poor.  Kudos to the kids that did appear throughout the season.
I don't know what the administration was thinking or expecting to happen when they put a bunch of senior citizens holding a rope to hold back the students at the end of the game.  I hope none of these guys got hurt and to the students that knock these gentleman over without helping them back up, to shame.
From me, thank you Fran, coaches and team for one of the most memorable seasons in a long time.  I wish you the best in the tournament.  For the seniors, what a way to go out.  Congrats.  I wish you the best in your chosen business career.  You have show the underclassmen that hard work does pay off.  I hope they were paying attention.
I hope to get a ticket for the tourney to see you play.  Enjoy this time guys, you deserved it!
65Pard

Right on Refrider

And how those FOH haters now have chests bursting with pride
Ditto the Frank haters after 150

Bandwagon babies?
Leopard Loyalist

There's always a lot of love for Fran on the Holy Cross board.
bethlehempard

"Haters?" I haven't quite adopted this teenage expression but I know what it means.
With one exception I see just some critical fans. Why not? That's their right. Mine too. It's universal by the way and a lot more intense in the SEC and Big 10 not to mention the Cross board.  
We've been through 14 lean years and everybody who's supported this team deserves to enjoy the moment.
Not commenting until season's end is not plausible. Boring too.
If somebody wants to lead cheers that's your prerogative.
I appreciate the comments of the fans on this board whether I agree or disagree. I've learned more about the teams here then elsewhere.
We've been through a lot of frustrating years in many sports.
I'm still out there at the games and so are you.
Go Pards!

***the one exception was the guy who hated one player and couldn't spell the name.
Kpard

We are here to commiserate. We are here to whine. We are here to share opinions. We are here to glorify the wins and analyze losses.

Mostly we are here because we care.

Everyone should be proud! Very Happy
Grandpa Tom

Very Happy   Great comments all.  I agree with one of the poster's who said this was the best defense we played all year, better in the first half.  This team is really something, at times in the PL season they were so frustrating that I almost stopped watching them, but down the stretch they have been pretty good.  The defense has been ok  and have done a better job on the boards.  20 wins is a nice season I don't care who you are and going to the dance is priceless!!!  Great atmosphere after the game.  Students storming he floor showing the players a lot of love, Jim Finnens voice cracking with emotion as  he announced the Patriot Champions your Lafayette Leopards .  Just how cool is that.  And speaking of  cool did you see the  outpouring of emotion with the parents and their sons.  I saw hugs that I thought were going to last for ever, tears of joy and pride, and of coarse a picture with player, mom and dad and the PL trophy.  I am so glad that all of the senior players had family there to  share this with.  This was a once in a life time moment.  Congratulations and of coarse GO PARDS!!!!!
carney2

65Pard wrote:
And how those FOH haters now have chests bursting with pride
Ditto the Frank haters after 150


I feel the fingers pointing at me and I wouldn't want to disappoint Xbo, so

With one - count them, ONE - winning team of any kind in almost 2 years, all of this sounds a lot like the blind squirrel finally tripping over his acorn.

Let's promise to revisit this chest thumping topic again in about a year after The Frankosaurus has once again wrapped himself in his worn out mantle of mediocrity and Fran has limped through a season with Lindner and a bunch of nice guy "scholar athletes."
Kpard

Common' right now the bandwagon is big enough for everyone...even C2!
NewXbo

carney2 wrote:
65Pard wrote:
And how those FOH haters now have chests bursting with pride
Ditto the Frank haters after 150


I feel the fingers pointing at me and I wouldn't want to disappoint Xbo, so

With one - count them, ONE - winning team of any kind in almost 2 years, all of this sounds a lot like the blind squirrel finally tripping over his acorn.

Let's promise to revisit this chest thumping topic again in about a year after The Frankosaurus has once again wrapped himself in his worn out mantle of mediocrity and Fran has limped through a season with Lindner and a bunch of nice guy "scholar athletes."



Well Carney, I don't want to let you down. Actually, I thought you were pretty reasonable during the basketball season. (No, I haven't been drinking but I'll probably start after I push the "send" button). It was kind of like if:" you don't have anything positive to say, don't say anything".

I did, however, think you and your buddy P4L went overboard on Football, along with a few others. You are correct in your position that as an athletic program we are a best mediocre. I don't think you can put this on the shoulders of the coaches and players. They can't all be bad. I don't think we can put all the blame on Bruce, although I wish he was more aggressive.

From talking to multiple coaches the major problem is admissions. For example: in a non-scholarship situation if there are two athletes who qualify for admission and one is a full pay and the other needs financial aid, admissions will reject the need applicant (even if that's the coaches first choice because he or she is the better athlete).

I also realize the college is interested in having high figures for the incoming class but would a few athletes with a 30 point lower SAT really have a major impact on the final  number?

Finally, I am no fan of the hiring process for head coaches. I believe it should be totally the decision of the AD (and his assistants if he wants to include them). Having members on a committee that have never been to a softball game or lacrosse game having input is worthless. I hired a lot of people during my working years, I was responsible for their performance. If I made a bad choice, I was responsible and took the blame.
bethlehempard

So, the coaches blame the admissions department.
No wonder our teams lose so much.
No coach or athlete coming to Lafayette should be surprised by the challenges.
I admire those who take the challenge but the challenge is no secret.
I spend a lot of time looking at earnings statements ... "Except for x , x and x , we did better than Oracle."
Beware of adjustments.
Reality is what it is.
Lafalum

NewXbo wrote:
carney2 wrote:
65Pard wrote:
And how those FOH haters now have chests bursting with pride
Ditto the Frank haters after 150


I feel the fingers pointing at me and I wouldn't want to disappoint Xbo, so

With one - count them, ONE - winning team of any kind in almost 2 years, all of this sounds a lot like the blind squirrel finally tripping over his acorn.

Let's promise to revisit this chest thumping topic again in about a year after The Frankosaurus has once again wrapped himself in his worn out mantle of mediocrity and Fran has limped through a season with Lindner and a bunch of nice guy "scholar athletes."



Well Carney, I don't want to let you down. Actually, I thought you were pretty reasonable during the basketball season. (No, I haven't been drinking but I'll probably start after I push the "send" button). It was kind of like if:" you don't have anything positive to say, don't say anything".

I did, however, think you and your buddy P4L went overboard on Football, along with a few others. You are correct in your position that as an athletic program we are a best mediocre. I don't think you can put this on the shoulders of the coaches and players. They can't all be bad. I don't think we can put all the blame on Bruce, although I wish he was more aggressive.

From talking to multiple coaches the major problem is admissions. For example: in a non-scholarship situation if there are two athletes who qualify for admission and one is a full pay and the other needs financial aid, admissions will reject the need applicant (even if that's the coaches first choice because he or she is the better athlete).

I also realize the college is interested in having high figures for the incoming class but would a few athletes with a 30 point lower SAT really have a major impact on the final  number?

Finally, I am no fan of the hiring process for head coaches. I believe it should be totally the decision of the AD (and his assistants if he wants to include them). Having members on a committee that have never been to a softball game or lacrosse game having input is worthless. I hired a lot of people during my working years, I was responsible for their performance. If I made a bad choice, I was responsible and took the blame.


Don't kid yourself the hiring process, even by committee is designed for a designated outcome. Winning is not the highest priority.
NewXbo

bethlehempard wrote:
So, the coaches blame the admissions department.
No wonder our teams lose so much.
No coach or athlete coming to Lafayette should be surprised by the challenges.
I admire those who take the challenge but the challenge is no secret.
I spend a lot of time looking at earnings statements ... "Except for x , x and x , we did better than Oracle."
Beware of adjustments.
Reality is what it is.


I realize you were a bean counter but what the hell are you saying? OK, you look at financials, did you ever coach?
bethlehempard

I never coached anybody older than 12.
The issue is universal: when you don't succeed, how do you handle it? Blame others?
My expectations for Lafayette are not real high. Winning seasons or close fairly often with a league title now and then. Good kids in good young men and women out. That part generally works out.
Can any coach plausibly claim they didn't know what they were getting into? To compensate for the challenge Lafayette is generally patient. Eight years from the forgotten one.
leopard88

CBS Sports now has the Leopards as a 15 playing Duke.  Hopefully that would give the Dookies horrible flashbacks to their last NCAA game against a PL team.
DaveR

Steve wrote:
It wasn't always pretty, with all the turnovers, but it was an exciting, closely contested game, and it ended up being a lot of fun for us Leopard fans.

On defense, we played them man-to-man all the way and really focused on defending the backdoor cut.  I haven't watched the recording of the game yet, but off the top of my head, I don't think I can recall AU scoring a basket off a backdoor cut.  Vasic scored a couple of times when Trist switched off him coming off of a ball screen, but that's not a backdoor cut.  In order to defend against the back cuts, we had to give a little space on the perimeter, and the Eagles hurt us throughout the game on 3-pointers.  They also hurt us in the first half with some offensive rebounds, which twice led to 3-pointers.  Reed, Jones and Schoof each had 2 threes in the first half, while Gardner didn't score in that half (although he had 4 assists).  Trist did drop off Vasic on the perimeter, and Vasic, who played a very good game overall, never was able to hit an outside shot.  In the 1st half, although we gave up many 3-pointers, we were very effective in defending 2-point shots.  AU did miss some shots on drives that were good shots.

We started slowly, but eventually picked it up in the first half.  AU plays that 2-3 zone in a unique style, really matching up out of it, and even having defenders switch positions in the zone in the middle of a possession.  The fact that they have no starter over 6'5", while a disadvantage in some respects, enables them to be very flexible in the zone, because there is no one defender who has to stay near the basket to protect the rim.  It gives them tremendous flexibility.  I'm not sure any other D1 team plays the defense quite like that, and it makes it difficult to attack.  You end up having to run man-to-man sets against them, but AU still gets the benefit of zone help D down low.

AU focused its D toward preventing Trist from getting the ball in good scoring position in the post, so Dan never got to take many shots throughout the game.  In doing so, AU made itself somewhat vulnerable in defending against the outside shot, and we hurt them with threes throughout the game.  In the first half, both teams turned the ball over a lot.  We did a good job of converting some of their turnovers into transition points.  Also, Nick did a very good job of driving to the basket, especially in the first half.  A number of times in the first half, he beat Vasic on drives to the hoop after Vasic switched places in the zone to cover one of the high spots, and found himself having to defend Nick.  Although Vasic showed that he is considerably quicker than Trist, he was no match for Lindner's quickness, and Nick scored off of him several times. Nick largely dominated the first half on offense.  Joey scored all of his points in the first half, and Seth used his height to score over the shorter AU defenders in drives and pull-ups.

In the second half, it appeared that AU adjusted its defense somewhat in an attempt to keep Lindner fromdriving.  It looked like they avoided as much as possible having Vasic switch to one of the high positions in the 2-3 zone, to prevent him from having to defend Nick on the perimeter.  It looked like they tried to match up Gardner defensively against Nick on the perimeter as much as possible in the 2nd half, and that cut down on Nick's drives to the paint.  They still helped out to prevent Trist from getting the ball in the low post, and were successful in doing so.

AU stopped turning the ball over in the 2nd half, but we did not.  When we got shots, we scored, shooting an excellent 65% from the field; but we turned the ball over so much, we had trouble getting shots.  Some of the turnovers were forced by the Eagles' active defense, but some were not.  We might have gotten thrown off somewhat by the unique matchup zone and our difficulty in attacking it.

After Scott and Hoffman hit 3-pointers at the beginning of the half, our lead grew to 13, and, given the pace at which AU plays, it looked like we might pull away from them.  However, AU fought back tenaciously throughout the 2nd half.  Gardner really stepped up his game in the 2nd half, beating us on drives to the hoop and threes.  Vasic also scored often in the 2nd half.  I really like the way he moves without the ball and battles for offensive rebounds.  The Eagles scored on many more 2-point shots in the 2nd half than in the 1st.

After we opened the lead to 13, AU cut it to 6, but then we stretched it to 12 again, on 3 straight baskets by Hinrichs.  Then, AU went on a 17-3 run, to take the lead by 2 on a 3-point play by Vasic.  We turned the ball over a lot during that stretch.  I was getting pessimistic at that point, given how much our offense was struggling with turnovers.  However, as soon as AU took their only lead, our players really stepped up and made the big plays we had to make down the stretch.  Hinrichs hit a 3 off of a nice skip pass by Bryce with 4 & 1/2 minutes left, and that ended up being the last lead change of the game.  

Rufer has received much deserved praise for his contributions late in the game.  (He had a nice follow-up basket off a missed 3-pointer in the 1st half, as well.)  He cemented his place in Leopard basketball history on that one possession with less than 3 minutes left, when he made a great hustle play to secure an offensive rebound just before it went out of bounds and, after we ran our offense, hit a huge 3 off of another nice skip pass from Scott.  Those may have been the plays of the game for us.

Down the stretch, our offense really clicked.  On our next possession, Nick drove and made a beautiful feed to a cutting Trist as the shot clock wound down.  Then, after Gardner hit a huge 3-pointer. we ran a ball screen, which caused Schoof to have to switch and cover Lindner, instead of Gardner, and Nick beat Schoof on the drive and drew a foul.

On AU's last meaningful possession, Seth did a nice job jumping out on Schoof against the corner 3, and Zach made another big play by securing the rebound.  Lindner was fouled on the inbound play, and his two free throws sealed the win.

I'm very happy for the team and the coaches, especially the seniors, that they were able to win the league title and will get the chance to play in the NCAAs.  Things didn't go exactly as planned -- with Seth's injury last year and the struggles during portions of the PL regular season -- but when it mattered most the team played their best ball of the season, and in the semifinals and finals, the players executed the offense extremely well during crunch time.

It often hasn't been easy being a Leopard basketball fan in the years since our last league title.  First there were the non-scholarship years, where we suffered a series of bad losses while trying to compete on a playing field that wasn't level.  Then, in recent years, it wasn't easy watching three losses in PL final games in four years, although we were underdogs playing on the road in each of those games.  If we had lost yesterday's game at home after being up double digits in the 2nd half, that would have been very difficult for me to take.  One thing about going through tough times as a fan -- it makes you appreciate the league championship that much more when the team wins it.  I was very, very happy yesterday.

I don't want to make this long post even longer, but I have to say how much I enjoyed the atmosphere at yesterday's game.  By a huge margin, it's the best atmosphere for any game at the renovated Kirby.  Although the student attendance wasn't great at most of the regular season games, they did a great job of showing up with great enthusiasm yesterday, and at the quarterfinal and semifinal games as well.  Hopefully, the enjoyable experience yesterday will lead to more of that in the future.

Steve, I love your game analysis posts, even if they are long.  
All I have to say is "WOO HOO!!! BIG DANCE HERE WE COME!!!"   Very Happy  Laughing  Cool
The Maroon

Refrider wrote:
Points to ponder:
Playing or appearing in the finals was NOT: Coach of the Year and Player of the Year.  How Dan didn't POY is unbelievable.
How quickly at the beginning of the season individuals on this board were quick to want to remove Fran and say how this season is a disappointment.  Yet, all of a sudden all this love is being shown to Fran and the team.  Maybe we should judge a whole season and not make judgements (positive or negative) after just a few games.
I too agree that the students did a great job during the tournament.  Yet, their involvement over the course of the season was poor.  Kudos to the kids that did appear throughout the season.
I don't know what the administration was thinking or expecting to happen when they put a bunch of senior citizens holding a rope to hold back the students at the end of the game.  I hope none of these guys got hurt and to the students that knock these gentleman over without helping them back up, to shame.
From me, thank you Fran, coaches and team for one of the most memorable seasons in a long time.  I wish you the best in the tournament.  For the seniors, what a way to go out.  Congrats.  I wish you the best in your chosen business career.  You have show the underclassmen that hard work does pay off.  I hope they were paying attention.
I hope to get a ticket for the tourney to see you play.  Enjoy this time guys, you deserved it!


I agree on all points - and I certainly think Dan was the POY...Except two weeks ago he was the MVP of a team that appeared destined for underachievement... I really can't argue with the selection. I'm sure Dan could care less.

The administration clearly wanted the students to rush the court- the pic is on the front page of lafayette.edu - hard to understand why they put ushers in harms way.

As for the students - they did what we've historically done...Remember how quickly the Zoo Crew died when we weren't league contenders.
BPard

The Maroon wrote:
Remember how quickly the Zoo Crew died when we weren't league contenders.
The College shut Zoo Crew down due to inappropriate chants.
Pard4Life

Yup, Zoo Crew was shutdown, and then they became the Maroon Platoon, and then student support died around 2005... along with our program.

Even when we were simply .500 between 2001 - 2003, and had our run and implosion in 2004, many students showed up (at least for league games).

The coolest thing about the title game is that I actually felt like I was at a college basketball game... crowd chants, distraction noise, yelling etc... it seemed like American got rattled at times.  And, it's all a choice... students COULD show up like that for every game.  This isn't the ACC, so when you have Colgate or Loyola come to KSC, the intense atmosphere could have them rattled.  The noise probably could have cost American a few points on FTs and possessions... and well, we won by two points.

I think the ushers were merely stationed with the rope towards the end of the game to keep fans from spilling onto the court before time ran out.  Things can get pushy and before you know it, the kids would be pushing themselves on the baseline while play was winding down.  It was a smart move.

And then post-game, they used the rope to keep the party in the center.
Pard4Life

carney2 wrote:
65Pard wrote:
And how those FOH haters now have chests bursting with pride
Ditto the Frank haters after 150


I feel the fingers pointing at me and I wouldn't want to disappoint Xbo, so

With one - count them, ONE - winning team of any kind in almost 2 years, all of this sounds a lot like the blind squirrel finally tripping over his acorn.

Let's promise to revisit this chest thumping topic again in about a year after The Frankosaurus has once again wrapped himself in his worn out mantle of mediocrity and Fran has limped through a season with Lindner and a bunch of nice guy "scholar athletes."


C2 is right about the big picture.  Outside of our three basketball wins this month, mens tennis owns the ONLY OTHER WIN in the athletics department this month. Think about that...
Bogus Megapardus

Pard4Life wrote:
I think the ushers were merely stationed with the rope towards the end of the game to keep fans from spilling onto the court before time ran out.


Uh-huh.  The yellow rope was just a show.  No one had any intention to prevent the students from rushing the court once the game was final.

The kids who rushed the court were the players' friends, peers and classmates.  They were not some random group making a show with a bunch of cloistered (non-) students that they don't even know.

Therein lies the difference, and I believe strongly that Dr. Byerly is acutely aware of that.  I get the impression that Dr. Byerly truly, genuinely likes Lafayette College and all that it stands for.  Which is very much unlike Dan Weiss and Uncle Arnie before her.  With Alison Byerly it's about the College, not about her.

Dan Weiss would have had a SWAT team out there . . . in the name of "diversity" of course.
ed65

Bogus Megapardus wrote:
Pard4Life wrote:
I think the ushers were merely stationed with the rope towards the end of the game to keep fans from spilling onto the court before time ran out.


Uh-huh.  The yellow rope was just a show.  No one had any intention to prevent the students from rushing the court once the game was final.

The kids who rushed the court were the players' friends, peers and classmates.  They were not some random group making a show with a bunch of cloistered (non-) students that they don't even know.

Therein lies the difference, and I believe strongly that Dr. Byerly is acutely aware of that.  I get the impression that Dr. Byerly truly, genuinely likes Lafayette College and all that it stands for.  Which is very much unlike Dan Weiss and Uncle Arnie before her.  With Alison Byerly it's about the College, not about her.

Dan Weiss would have had a SWAT team out there . . . in the name of "diversity" of course.


Totally agree with Bogie about Byerly.  but with one caveat: if she listens to the anti-sports group on the Board or on the Faculty, no changes will occur down at Kirby (especially with the AD where the biggest change is required).
Pard4Life

Yeah it was definitely a friendly affair on the court. Even at larger schools its mostly anonymous but shortly after they won, you had friends taking pictures with the players.  That's what's great about being at a small school.

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