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leopard88

PL Tournament

Down goes Bucky! Down goes Bucky!

http://www.patriotleague.org/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/030316aan.html
leopard88

Oh, yeah . . . and Metro College too.
Andy

Jones now 2-3 in the tourney. He needs some more advantages.

No lie - BU has a School of Hospitality Administration. And, of course, there's the College of Communications.   Great job by Femovich and the BOP.
SixtyEighter

Seriously , with Bucknell out of the way Lehigh looks like it has a clear path to the NCAA's. Lehigh reminds me of us last year- an under achiever waking up in the tourney and with the players to do it.
Kpard

Dr. R and the brown ones have been playing very well down the stretch. They are living up to their pre season billing. Based on how they are now playing I believe they would have won even if Buffy was still in it.
And of course we don't like it.  Mad
leopard88

Go Crusaders!
Lafalum

Actually, I will root for Lehigh...they are the better team to represent the PL in the NCAA'S. And maybe it will wake up the powers that be at our place. Lehigh in the tournament. I will also give Holy Cross their due, the hiring of Nate Pine and the investment being made in their athletic infrastructure is noteworthy.
leopard88

Lafalum wrote:
Actually, I will root for Lehigh...they are the better team to represent the PL in the NCAA'S. And maybe it will wake up the powers that be at our place. Lehigh in the tournament. I will also give Holy Cross their due, the hiring of Nate Pine and the investment being made in their athletic infrastructure is noteworthy.


That much is true . . . and I will freely admit that I was rooting for them against Duke.  However, it is awfully hard to get behind them at this stage.
CHIP72

SixtyEighter wrote:
Seriously , with Bucknell out of the way Lehigh looks like it has a clear path to the NCAA's. Lehigh reminds me of us last year- an under achiever waking up in the tourney and with the players to do it.


To be fair to Lehigh, they finished second this season with a 13-5 league record, one game out of a tie for the Patriot League regular season title, and won their last 9 games prior to the PL Tournament.  (By contrast, Lafayette finished fourth in the Patriot League in 2015.)  The Mountain Hawks woke up long before PL Tournament.
Refrider

Before Bucknell played their first tournament game this year, they were already discussing on their board which seed they should get in the big dance.   LOL/ha ha
bethlehempard

Lehigh started horribly but they at least look like a D1 team. They can score a lot of ways. Some teams have a D3 look.
Andy

bethlehempard wrote:
Lehigh started horribly but they at least look like a D1 team. They can score a lot of ways. Some teams have a D3 look.


How'd they look losing in the quarterfinals last year while LC was beating Boston by 25?
Andy

Refrider wrote:
Before Bucknell played their first tournament game this year, they were already discussing on their board which seed they should get in the big dance.   LOL/ha ha


Like they weren't doing the same before losing to LC in last year's semis, RR?   Wink
Franks Tanks

Holy Cross is going to the dance.  Great effort by the Crusaders.

Holy Cross has had some rough years recently, but they have an AD who knows what he is doing, and basketball and football seems to be trending in the right direction.
bethlehempard

A 14-19 team is going to represent the league. Lehigh choked and the result is a failure by them but also an embarrassment for the league.
Ideally Cross can play their best in the NCAAs. Carmody stuck it to Reed.
NewXbo

bethlehempard wrote:
A 14-19 team is going to represent the league. Lehigh choked and the result is a failure by them but also an embarrassment for the league.
Ideally Cross can play their best in the NCAAs. Carmody stuck it to Reed.



Maybe you should go on the Lehigh board and tell them what they are doing wrong. Be sure to tell them they should fire Reed
bethlehempard

I would prefer a winning team represent the league but it hardly matters this year. A 14-19 champion doesn't put the PL's best foot forward.
SixtyEighter

1. Carmody can't be underestimated - he is an excellent coach. 2. My prediction that Lehigh would win it all after HC beat Bucknell was the kiss of death but even Carmody called thev win and the 4 road wins to the championship "Improbable." The announcers said HC was 0-9 on the road in the league. Therefore improbable was the understatement of the year to date.
adcs2

"but they have an AD who knows what he is doing"

Where do we get one of those?
Lafalum

adcs2 wrote:
"but they have an AD who knows what he is doing"

Where do we get one of those?


Excellent point..Nate Pine has fired coaches,is building a 50 million dollar athletic facility and hired better coaches. Carmody looks like a winner. Nice template for a school to follow. And by the way inside a school with a very good academic reputation.
Is anyone on our BOT paying attention?!
ed65

adcs2 wrote:
"but they have an AD who knows what he is doing"

Where do we get one of those?


That is the $64,000 question.
ed65

Presumably the HC Board of Trustees approved their re-emphasis on athletics.  Alison needs to learn more about what the Crusaders are doing.
BPard

ed65 wrote:
Presumably the HC Board of Trustees approved their re-emphasis on athletics.  Alison needs to learn more about what the Crusaders are doing.

The strategic initiatives Alison is leading (growing the student body, need blind aid, and better faculty pay) should directly and indirectly improve athletics. Growing spreads the fixed cost of athletics over a greater number of students. I could go on but I'll leave it at that.

With these initiatives underway, I'd prefer her own attention to remain focused on making them as successful as possible. Perhaps direct enough attention to make a strategic hire for athletics so she can remain focused on those three initiatives while building on Lafayette's (non-athletic) successes.

Others in the administration should be focused on athletics.
NewXbo

If you are in charge, you are in charge of everything.  You delegate responsibility to others. If they fail, you fire them and hire someone who can do the job. You are always in charge of everything. Obviously you have never owned your own business.
BPard

NewXbo wrote:
If you are in charge, you are in charge of everything.  You delegate responsibility to others. If they fail, you fire them and hire someone who can do the job. You are always in charge of everything. Obviously you have never owned your own business.
Actually I've advocated on these forums to remove the current AD and elevate that position. Even in the post you are responding to, I say to make a strategic hire to run athletics which obviously entails removing the current AD from that responsibility. How is that not firing someone who has failed, hiring someone who can do the job, and delegating responsibility for athletics to that person? Obviously you lack reading comprehension.

You cannot focus on everything even though you are in charge of everything, which is why you need to delegate. I stand by my prior post - after taking the time to right athletics with a strategic hire, others in the administration should be focused on athletics. The President's focus should be elsewhere.
Lafalum

BPard wrote:
NewXbo wrote:
If you are in charge, you are in charge of everything.  You delegate responsibility to others. If they fail, you fire them and hire someone who can do the job. You are always in charge of everything. Obviously you have never owned your own business.
Actually I've advocated on these forums to remove the current AD and elevate that position. Even in the post you are responding to, I say to make a strategic hire to run athletics which obviously entails removing the current AD from that responsibility. How is that not firing someone who has failed, hiring someone who can do the job, and delegating responsibility for athletics to that person? Obviously you lack reading comprehension.

You cannot focus on everything even though you are in charge of everything, which is why you need to delegate. I stand by my prior post - after taking the time to right athletics with a strategic hire, others in the administration should be focused on athletics. The President's focus should be elsewhere.


Athletics should report to the president as is done in many colleges and universities in division one. Currently our AD reports to someone who has student deans, living groups and all sorts of responsibilities. I do not see the interest or expertise there that justifies having the AD report to her.
bethlehempard

Holy Cross got a PIG. Not in a poke. Just a PIG.
Bucknell has a chance to knock off Monmouth in the NIT. Monmouth, the team pundits are whining about even though it had no chance to win the NCAA.
Go Bison!
Army and Boston are in play-for-pay events.
Kpard

bethlehempard wrote:
Holy Cross got a PIG. Not in a poke. Just a PIG.
Bucknell has a chance to knock off Monmouth in the NIT. Monmouth, the team pundits are whining about even though it had no chance to win the NCAA.
Go Bison!

Army and Boston are in play-for-pay events.


Army? Really? Our tax dollars hard at work! THAT is a waste.  Mad
bethlehempard

Army will play at NJIT on Wednesday. The Highlanders are probably paying most or all of the freight, but one does have to wonder, what's the point? The NCAA and NIT accommodate 100 teams.
Among the other CIT entries are Boston, Fairfield, Grand Canyon (?) and Columbia (those Ivy ideals in action).
The event doesn't bother with seeds.
bison137

bethlehempard wrote:
Holy Cross got a PIG. Not in a poke. Just a PIG.
Bucknell has a chance to knock off Monmouth in the NIT. Monmouth, the team pundits are whining about even though it had no chance to win the NCAA.
Go Bison!
Army and Boston are in play-for-pay events.



True, Monmouth had no shot to win the NCAA, but they had a much better case for a bid than Tulsa or Syracuse.    They had road/tournament wins vs Notre Dame, USC, Georgetown, and UCLA.  RPI rank of 52, but ooc RPI rank of 35.   Also a top 100 ooc SOS.  And they were the MAAC regular season champs with a 17-3 record.
NewXbo

Who do you think will draw more money or TV hits and advertisements, I mean people, Syracuse or Monmouth?
Kpard

NewXbo wrote:
Who do you think will draw more money or TV hits and advertisements, I mean people, Syracuse or Monmouth?


Sadly, that is the truth. It's not right, but, it is the harsh reality. Sad
bison137

NewXbo wrote:
Who do you think will draw more money or TV hits and advertisements, I mean people, Syracuse or Monmouth?



Obviously.   But that is supposed to be irrelevant in the selections process, which is supposed to be driven by metrics - and before this year's selection committee, it had been for a number of years.   But this year, they did a complete 180 from their principles.

Just over the previous three years, thecommittee left out at least six power conference teams that had a better resume than this year's Syracuse team - teams such as Stanford (twice), Virginia, Vandy, Florida State, etc.
Marooner

It's not just Monmouth:

"What you need to know is that no power-five school with a top-54 RPI was omitted from the NCAA Tournament this season, but eight non-power-five schools with top-54 RPIs were..."

AND

"...the two best RPIs omitted belonged to non-power-five schools for the 12th straight year, and the best three KenPom ratings omitted from the field this season -- No. 34 Saint Mary's, No. 36 Valparaiso and No. 43 San Diego State -- also belonged to non-power-five schools."

http://www.cbssports.com/collegeb...diana-fans-will-meltdown-saturday
NewXbo

Holy Cross knocks off Southern 59-55 in first round game will play #1 seed Oregon on Friday. First NCAA win since 1953.
Lafalum

I will always root for the PL entry. Having our 9 seed doing well is good for the League!!
bethlehempard

NIT: Monmouth 90, Bucknell 80

CIT: NJIT 79, Army 75
      Boston 69, Fordham 66
Lafalum

bethlehempard wrote:
NIT: Monmouth 90, Bucknell 80

CIT: NJIT 79, Army 75
      Boston 69, Fordham 66


that is not particularly good for the league although Monmouth should have been in NCAA's
adcs2

I think that is good for the league.

Two wins, including one over A-10's Fordham and an NCAA win by HC. Bucknell didn't get run out of the gym by Monmouth (who should have been in the NCAA field). And Army's 4-point road loss against an athletic NJIT.
Kpard

adcs2 wrote:
I think that is good for the league.

Two wins, including one over A-10's Fordham and an NCAA win by HC. Bucknell didn't get run out of the gym by Monmouth (who should have been in the NCAA field). And Army's 4-point road loss against an athletic NJIT.


I believe the Army score was 79 - 65 (not 75)
adcs2

Oh, ok. Laflum indicated 75 for Army
bison137

Lafalum wrote:
bethlehempard wrote:
NIT: Monmouth 90, Bucknell 80

CIT: NJIT 79, Army 75
      Boston 69, Fordham 66


that is not particularly good for the league although Monmouth should have been in NCAA's



Fwiw, Bucknell was a 12-point underdog to Monmouth - so the result was not surprising.   Score was tied with about 11 minutes left, and Bucknell then missed a wide open three with a chance to take the lead.    Monmouth then hit three consecutive threes from way behind the arc to build up a 9-point lead and it was basically over.
bethlehempard

Syracuse 73 - Army 56. Minato's last game, 10 points. That's 112 straight games in double figures. Two free throws with 10 seconds left.
An upset would have been nice with No. 12 Albany beating Florida on the other side.
Army, seeded 13th, was down 39-14 at the half and never got closer than 14 the rest of the way.
Here as tournament news central rather than start another thread.
***
Boston at NJIT on Monday in the CIT. Holy Cross about to start, truTV isn't HD here dammit.

NJIT 83, Boston 72. That's is for 2015-16 PL basketball.

Bucknell's women beat Akron in the NIT before losing to Michigan.

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