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Bogus Megapardus

Preseason games

According to LaxPower, Pards will play two preseason scrimmages Saturday, February 4 at Stony Brook - vs. St. Joseph's at Noon and vs. Stony Brook at 2:00 PM.

The team scrimmaged against C.W. Post (a top DII team) last Saturday.  Various reports from the LaxPower forum have the Pards winning but looking rather sloppy with many turnovers.

Anybody out there on Lawn Guyland with some time on their hands this weekend might want to mosey on over to SBU.

This ol' laxer isn't holding his breath for a championship season, but a guy can dream, I suppose.

LaxPower preseason top 20 is here:

http://www.laxpower.com/polls/MD1Poll-2012-0131.php


Pard4Life

That's four of seven PL schools receiving votes... and DI lacrosse has like, 65 teams?  Not bad...  Amazing UVA is #1 and Bucknell had them beat in round one.
Bogus Megapardus

At 2-11, Lafayette finished 50th out of 61 DI teams last season.  Down the stretch we actually lost to Holy Cross, Marist and Providence, which was flat out inexcusable.

Going into the Lehigh game there were only two blow-out losses, though (Drexel and Navy).  The others were very close.  Then we sucked eggs against the Fountain Fowl.

There is no longer any excuse whatsoever for losing to Lehigh in lacrosse.  We have 14 new recruits this year, almost all of whom are from hotbed areas and well-known lax schools.  One anomaly though - we now have out second player from Benilde St. Margaret's School in Edina, Minn., wheresoever that might be.

OOC against Georgetown and Rutgers this year is nice - with the Hoyas traveling to Easton on March 31.  There's no way I'll miss that one.

I still think we win the first three.
Bogus Megapardus

Pard4Life wrote:
That's four of seven PL schools receiving votes...


Yes, the Patriot League is, in fact, a "power conference" in lacrosse.  Bucknell-Navy and Colgate-Army are classic matchups - as is Army-Navy, of course.  Every team in the league has been ranked in the top 10 nationally at one time or another.  We need to be in a place where the Lafayette-Lehigh game is of major significance nationally as well.  We also have to start playing Harvard, Princeton and Cornell, not just Penn, from the Ivy.
bison137

[quote="Bogus Megapardus:23188"]
Pard4Life wrote:
 Every team in the league has been ranked in the top 10 nationally at one time or another.  



I'll buy 6/7's of that - but when was HC ever in the top ten?    I doubt they've ever been in anyone's top 30.
Bogus Megapardus

Bogus Megapardus wrote:
Pard4Life wrote:
 Every team in the league has been ranked in the top 10 nationally at one time or another.  

I'll buy 6/7's of that - but when was HC ever in the top ten?    I doubt they've ever been in anyone's top 30.


I was thinking it was Lehigh that might not have been ranked.  I seem to recall when I played in the 80s that Holy Cross was a top DI team.  Long ago, of course, and I'll have to do some googling on the subject to confirm.  The top PL teams (Navy, Army, Bucknell, Colgate) are ranked consistently, of course.  Lehigh is improving, Lafayette had its 15 minutes of fame, and HC sits in the midst of a traditional lax hotbed.

And once again I ask - what sports does American University play, and why is it in the Patriot League?  I keep forgetting.
pards123

Bogus Megapardus wrote:



And once again I ask - what sports does American University play, and why is it in the Patriot League?  I keep forgetting.


Because their name is American, so naturally they belong in the Patriot League, I guess.
Pard4Life

pards123 wrote:
Bogus Megapardus wrote:



And once again I ask - what sports does American University play, and why is it in the Patriot League?  I keep forgetting.


Because their name is American, so naturally they belong in the Patriot League, I guess.


We were desperate for a school to keep our auto-bid status in basketball.
Bogus Megapardus

Pard4Life wrote:

We were desperate for a school to keep our auto-bid status in basketball.


Yeah, I've heard that.  But isn't there a statute of limitations on that sort of thing?  Can't they be nice people and go off to join the Sun Belt or C-USA or America East or such?  While they're lovely folks, for certain, I'm sure they really don't want to be in the Patriot League, and heaven knows we've got nothing in common with them.

The C-USA can have American, and we'll take Rice University.  Fair deal?
bison137

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bison137 wrote:
Bogus Megapardus wrote:
Pard4Life wrote:
 Every team in the league has been ranked in the top 10 nationally at one time or another.  



I'll buy 6/7's of that - but when was HC ever in the top ten?    I doubt they've ever been in anyone's top 30.


I was thinking it was Lehigh that might not have been ranked.  I seem to recall when I played in the 80s that Holy Cross was a top DI team.  Long ago, of course, and I'll have to do some googling on the subject to confirm.  The top PL teams (Navy, Army, Bucknell, Colgate) are ranked consistently, of course.  Lehigh is improving, Lafayette had its 15 minutes of fame, and HC sits in the midst of a traditional lax hotbed.

And once again I ask - what sports does American University play, and why is it in the Patriot League?  I keep forgetting.



Just took a look at HC's lax history.    There is one year (1983) where they had a very good record, i.e. 12-2, and conceivably might have hit the top ten.   I doubt their schedule was very strong however.  

At that time figure that UNC, MD, Johns Hopkins, Syracuse, Cornell, Navy, and UVA had 7  of the spots - which left the rest of the lax universe fighting for the other 3 places.   Army and Penn were also good back then, and those two likely had two of the remaining spots.  Holy Cross, btw, has never been selected for the NCAA tournament.

Compared to Long Island and the Maryland area, I'm not sure how big a lax hotbed Massachusetts was back in the 1980's, and it certainly is not as strong a lax area now compared to many other areas.
Bogus Megapardus

Yep.  It looks like, with the exception of 1982-1986, Holy Cross lax has been . . . not too good.  
http://static.psbin.com/l/i/fev736rg74dufv/year-by-year.pdf

It's just that those are about the years that I kind of remember.
edmc2416

Duke 25 Bucknell 3 today??  Wow.
Lost Again

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Duke 25 Bucknell 3 today??  Wow


Women's
Bogus Megapardus

Lost Again wrote:
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Duke 25 Bucknell 3 today??  Wow


Women's



Game recap:

http://www.laxpower.com/laxnews/news.php?story=26717

17-1 at the half.
Bogus Megapardus

Any word on Saturday's scrimmages?  The only thing I have (via LaxPower) is that Stony Brook was up 11-3 at the end of the 3rd.
PardsLax

You probably already read this over on Laxpower.com but the Pards tied St. Joe's 6-6 in another sloppy, error-filled game.  Laf ended up losing to Stony Brook 12-6.  Apparently SBU had 6 transition goals in one early quarter.  Offense just could not get anything going.  The guys player better in the second half.  The three goalies all got some playing time and reportedly played pretty well.  It's good that these pre-season games aren't necessarily indicative of how a team will perform during the regular season.
bison137

Lost Again wrote:
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Duke 25 Bucknell 3 today??  Wow


Women's



The last time the Bison men played Duke, they lost in OT.   After that, Duke would not give them a rematch.   And after the Virginia tournament game last year, BU found that no top ten team would consider a game, even on their home field.
Bogus Megapardus

PardsLax wrote:
You probably already read this over on Laxpower.com but the Pards tied St. Joe's 6-6 in another sloppy, error-filled game.  Laf ended up losing to Stony Brook 12-6.  Apparently SBU had 6 transition goals in one early quarter.  Offense just could not get anything going.  The guys player better in the second half.  The three goalies all got some playing time and reportedly played pretty well.  It's good that these pre-season games aren't necessarily indicative of how a team will perform during the regular season.


Thanks, PardsLax.  Appreciate it very much.  And from Lafayettelax on LaxPower, regarding the SBU scrimmages:

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First game, played St Joes and looked like a tie i think 6 to 6. Second game Stony Brook won by a decent amount. Offense had some trouble hitting the cage. Pards looked much better second game. Still too many turnovers. Lots of very quick line changes.  Looked like more players traveled this week. Need some leadership to step up big time on defense and need an offensive threat to develop.  F/O looked better as the games went on.  Young developing players it is going to be a challenge this season.


My interpretation of what PardsLax and Lafayettelax are telling us -

We lost 13 seniors, including Stefan Bauer (Attack) and Tom Perini (Attack), leaving the Pard offense a shell of what is was a couple of seasons ago when Steve Seling and Matt Mersky dominated out there, along with Perini.  Bauer and Perini, along with present senior Middie Colin Serling, accounted for the vast bulk of the scoring last season.

Other key offensive contributors who are gone from last season include Tyler Silvey (Attack), Ryan Hansen (Middie), Greg Allis (Middie) and Franklin Floyd (Middie).  This leaves the Pard offense severely depleted.

Coach Mangan said during PL media day that senior Will Heffernan will lead the attack, along with new freshmen Brian Bock, Cory Scheuerle and Sonny Round.  Heffernan was listed as a Middie, but I guess he’s switched. Coach didn’t mention Mike Galione, a very promising member of last year’s freshman class, who started nine games last season.  I don’t know where Galione (who comes from a Bucknell family) stands but he’s on the roster and I’d have to assume that he’d be a key figure in the offense as well, unless there’s something that hasn’t been reported.

So we have a very young and untested offense which does not necessarily bode too well.  Our success from a couple of seasons past came from incredible speed and prolific scoring up front.  Two of those guys (Serling, Perini) are now playing professional ball.  Hard to replace.

Both PardsLax and Lafayettelax comment on the turnovers.  Folks, at the Division I level, that little white ball should NEVER touch the ground except (a) when a shot is taken or (b) during faceoff.  Turnovers happen when a poor pass goes out of bounds, when a player does not crosse the ball cleanly, when an opponent checks the ball away, or when the offensive team fails to cover after a missed shot crosses the endline.  Offsides infractions and crease violations contribute to turnovers as well.  It appears form Lafayettelax’s and Pardlax's reports that the Pards are deficient in some or all of these areas.

A couple of statistics to look at here, when assessing the efficiency of the offense, are the GBs (ground balls) collected by the opponent as well as the ratio of SH to SOG (shots to shots-on-goal).  Shots on goal are the ones that go in or are saved by the opponent’s Goalie.  Shots that don’t hit goal are a turnover waiting to happen unless the shot is “covered” by an offensive player as it crosses the endline.

Lafayettelax also raises a F/O (faceoff) issue.  As in ice hockey, substitutions (mostly on the midfield lines) happen on the fly during the game.  Midfielder (Middie) lines change frequently because Middies are the only ones who are permitted run the full length of the field.  It can be exhausting.

Most teams have a faceoff specialist who takes the faceoff in the center of the field and then immediately goes off the field while another Middie comes in.  The faceoff Middie, known as the FOGO (face off-get off) is critical because gaining and keeping initial offensive possession is SO important in lacrosse.  The team that gains initial possession keeps the ball unless they either score or turn it over for some reason. A team that wins the faceoff, then scores, and then wins the faceoff again, could conceivably maintain offensive possession for the ball for the entire game.  A couple of seasons ago the Pards dominated in time of possession and they won some big games. Not so much last season.

Cesar Munoz was our FOGO and he’s gone.  He was a beast and a huge part of the game  Coach Tavani seriously should have recruited the kid.  The only other guy now on the roster with in-game faceoff experience (that I know of) is Greg Rau.  I don’t know who among the current underclass Middies has high school faceoff experience, but doubtless there are a couple.  It’s something that every Middie learns to do at one point or another.  I like to think that I used to do fair job at this myself, when called upon to do so.

Neither PardsLax nor Lafayettelax assess our actual faceoff success during the scrimmages, but Lafayettelax does note that we were OK at getting the on-the-fly Middie lines in and out during the game.  The composition of the line that goes in depends on whether or not the team gains possession after the faceoff.  The Middie lines substitute three at a time during the game, as in ice hockey.

On defense (the guys with the long poles) – starter Jon Marcek is gone, as is starter Spencer Philpot.  Geoff Stearns, Paul Hammer and Brendan Gover will have to pick up the slack on D, unless there are some awesome underclassman.

I see that there is no specific LSM (long stick Middie) listed on the roster.  The LSM position goes in to add extra defensive capability when needed.  No doubt that one of the present Middies will be responsible for the LSM position, but I don’t know who.

There are no Goalies in the new freshman class.  My guess is that sophomore Andrijko Andrusko, who started last year as a freshman, will remain in goal.  Another sophomore Goalie, Jake Hyatt, did not play last year but I think I recall that he was injured.  I don’t know his present status.

PardsLax reports that three Goalies played in the SBU scrimmages.  My guess is that the scrimmage Goalies were Andrusko, Hyatt and junior Ed Stubits, the latter of whom saw some game action last season.   Vinny DePasquale was in goal for that one awesome season and it's obviously been tough to replace Vinny.

Lafayette has an opportunity for national recognition in lacrosse.  I wouldn’t discount the importance of lacrosse in terms of enhancing the overall image of Lafayette College, especially amongst the kinds of kids who typically consider Lafayette.  Please post any and all questions about The Creator’s Game (as lacrosse is known) right here.  I’ll answer all of them – I love the game and believe me, it sticks with you for life.

ParsLax and Lafayettelax - please chime in!
PardsLax

Nice analysis, Bogie.  I strongly agree with you that this team has really lost a lot of key players in the last two years due to graduation (and just a lot of players, period).  The last two recruiting classes are supposed to be solid but the 2012 squad will have a lot of inexperienced players being asked to step up.  Optimistically, we can hope that the pre-season issues mentioned will ameliorate as players grow into their roles and gain some confidence.

Mike Galione was asked to play midfield this year, perhaps because of the strength of the freshmen attack.  I was very surprised by this but Coach Mangan believes Mike has great potential at midfield (see http://www.goleopards.com/sports/m-lacros/spec-rel/012512aaa.html for his exact words).  Sonny Round (fr) and Brian Bock (fr) have been injured during the pre-season so no reports about how they've been doing.

I believe Greg Rau (jr) will end up being their faceoff guy but he may be injured.  I think Anthony Zawadzki (jr), Jake O'Brien (fr), and maybe Colin Serling (sr) took the reps at the X.  None of these guys have a lot of experience in college taking faceoffs and I didn't hear how things went this weekend on that front.  I believe Brendan Gover (so) is running some LSM as is Matt Evans (so) but I'm not sure about that.  You are correct about the goalies - all are healthy and there is no clear starter at this point.

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