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carney2

Princeton Post Mortem

Offense = 278 yds.

Defense = 573 yds.

Gentlemen, we are witnessing a freakin' train wreck of historic proportions.  I'm glad that my family commitment prevented me from seeing it.

Frank's no. 1 excuse:  injuries.  His solution:  Back to the drawing board on Monday.

No one is better equipped to fix this than Tavani.  I am therefore taking the lead in what will undoubtedly be a groundswell demand for a contract extension.  So, let's hear it:

Four more years.
Four more years.
Four more ...

I need to go puke, so it's

your turn.
carney2

This just in:

Pard starting offense went en mass to a downtown Easton cat house and couldn't score there either.
Bogus Megapardus






rjphog

Frank is ultimately responsible as the head coach, but he is just a figure head and how much of the blame for the offensive play calling falls to Mickey? He was responsible for the debacle with the QB revolving door last week...and Frank allowed it to happen.

Today we were out coached, played with no heart and the team (used loosely) lacks leadership.
Bogus Megapardus

There were so many things wrong with that performance it's hard to know where to begin.

- No semblance of pass blocking by the OL.

- When the FB/TB/TE stayed back to pass block they ranged from ineffective to useless.

- OL run blocking collapsed in the middle almost at the moment of the snap.

- Little to no advance blocking on screens and outside runs.

- LBs were out of position on multiple occasions leaving the middle wide open for runs and crossing routes.

- Nobody could tackle.

- Nobody could shed blocks.

- Receivers ran the wrong routes or else they miscommunicated with the QB.

- Couldn't convert third downs.

- Couldn't stop Princeton from converting third downs.

- Princeton QB, who never threw a pass before this season, picked apart our secondary  . . . if we even had a secondary.

- Atrocious play calling - Princeton knew what was coming virtually every play.

- No discernible scheme to counter Princeton's no-huddle, which we knew was coming.

- Defense ran out of gas early and often.
Bogus Megapardus

And to make matters worse (though not Frank T's fault) the LSN stream was the worst in history.  It made a virtually unwatchable game literally unwatchable.  Really, really bad, fellas.
Bogus Megapardus

Drew Reed was 26/34-230 with 1 TD and no INT.  This game wasn't on Drew.

Our leading rusher was a freshman (Tyler West 8-54) and our leading receiver was a freshman (Joey Chenoweth 8-66).
pardfan

9,172   heckuva crowd   campus looked great   all the ingredients were there for a fun night   Sad to see us play so poorly   their qb gave them a decided edge as he seemed totally in control    imaginative plays  27 Atwater killed us.  Midway through third qu. on,  stopped being a game altogether.  Second half stats for us meaningless (4,000 maybe stayed to the end)
they were just better
Pard4Life

We sure put the 0 in 0ffense.

Whatever. We look clueless. No leaderless. No game plan. No fire. Not wasting my fingers for this.

Spin the wheel Bogie. Quite a few today.
The Maroon

Bogus Megapardus wrote:
Drew Reed was 26/34-230 with 1 TD and no INT.  This game wasn't on Drew.

Our leading rusher was a freshman (Tyler West 8-54) and our leading receiver was a freshman (Joey Chenoweth 8-66).

He had 79 yards on 22 attempts at halftime and Princeton scored on the first possession of the second half. As sometime said at that point it ceased to be a game.

Was it on him? No, a loss like that deserves to be shared, but Princeton was perfectly happy to let him pick rack up 10 yard completions on 3rd and 15....

We aren't close to being a good team right now. An 0 fer is a definite possibility.
carney2

C'mon guys, we've had a lot of down moments in the last 6 or 7 years and we've always bounced back to achieve mediocrity.  We can do it again.  We're not the worst team in the League as long as there's ...  Well, we might not be, so cheer up.  Beating the two glue sniffers on this board to the punch - Now we go 8-3 and get ready for the playoffs.
bethlehempard

It's hard to go winless in the Patriot League but right now it looks like there might not be a home-field win this year.
Away, Wagner is bad but not this bad. Georgetown is our best shot at a win but I'm not making that trip.
We have bounced back before -- there's always 1994 -- but there seems to be a lot wrong, a lot missing, at all levels right now.
Go Pards!
flyfisher

Embarrassing effort in all aspects.
ELB

WOW! More difficult to watch than W&M and Delaware (Delaware is better than anticipated having given Villanova a run for their money). But Princeton - ugh! I'm predicting Harvard will handle the Tigers, which doesn't bode well for LC against the Crimson.  Maybe we can beat an NEC team - or maybe not.
Pard4Life

Were any of you at the game? It was bad!

We looked better vs WM!

We got owned everywhere. Secondary is truly awful.

DL and OL was pushed around.

Reed was not making reads.

We were about to go up 7-0 but 17 drops the darn ball and our guy who can kick wet ball through a downpour can't kick a FG.

No energy. Predictable play book. How is this tolerated year after year?
Pard4Life

Also, Princeton goes 10-13 on third down. They have converted more on third in one game than we have been in the red zone all year! Think about that! They have played one game!

Did we even get to the red zone tonight?

We only scored because a frosh busted a move and broke it.
The Maroon

carney2 wrote:
C'mon guys, we've had a lot of down moments in the last 6 or 7 years and we've always bounced back to achieve mediocrity.  We can do it again.  We're not the worst team in the League as long as there's ...  Well, we might not be, so cheer up.  Beating the two glue sniffers on this board to the punch - Now we go 8-3 and get ready for the playoffs.

8-3 would surpass our programs ongoing goal of mediocrity.

The past six years have given us another league title where we couldn't beat Colgate and the win at Yankee stadium.

And yet Frank is set for Life.

Only in Easton.
BillS

The Maroon wrote:
carney2 wrote:
C'mon guys, we've had a lot of down moments in the last 6 or 7 years and we've always bounced back to achieve mediocrity.  We can do it again.  We're not the worst team in the League as long as there's ...  Well, we might not be, so cheer up.  Beating the two glue sniffers on this board to the punch - Now we go 8-3 and get ready for the playoffs.

8-3 would surpass our programs ongoing goal of mediocrity.

The past six years have given us another league title where we couldn't beat Colgate and the win at Yankee stadium.

And yet Frank is set for Life.

Only in Easton.
I heard this from a pretty good source that Frank plans on retirement after 2016 because of the health scare he had last year. If that happens I would hope Bruce cleans house and let's our new coach hire his own staff !
Lafalum

Let's be honest here. Frank took the job because no one wanted it. He stuck with it while being undermined by an administration and BOT leadership which tried to undermine him and the whole athletic department for years. Hey People ….the budget has not risen for 8 years at the same time we have hired a plethora of gender equity deans, and spent money on speakers like porn stars from Duke.
The result is underpaid assistants, maybe a fear to fire because we are afraid the next guy will be more expensive instead of judging whether that person is the right coach. The key to longevity at Lafayette is to keep you head down, mouth shut and collect you check and be thankful. Meanwhile we write checks to a program that the school has not fully funded. That money that should have gone to improving the program ends up sponsoring the aforementioned Duke Scholar. I hope Byerly is listening because good will can only last so long.
seenalot

Sadly witnessed that one.  Observations:

- We play stubborn as usual - cant run block so we call same old up the middle running plays, we cant pass block so we call plays that take too long to develop

- Put Roberts back at safety and at least play in his best position.  

- Zero energy on field by end Q1 pretty much gone from the crowd too.  

- PU had an experienced OLine and it showed

- Holding Duece in to pass block might be the silliest use of a player I have ever seen - and sadly his effort at it is equally poor

Everything else has been said - whats the point....
CHIP72

Bogus Megapardus wrote:
Drew Reed was 26/34-230 with 1 TD and no INT.  This game wasn't on Drew.

Our leading rusher was a freshman (Tyler West 8-54) and our leading receiver was a freshman (Joey Chenoweth 8-66).


Bogie - a good chunk of Reed's passing yards came in the latter half of the 3rd quarter and the 4th quarter.  I think he had 104 yards passing on 20 attempts after Princeton made it 33-0.

EDIT: He actually had 72 yards on 20 attempts, I think at halftime.  Reed probably had about 24-26 attempts to get to 104 yards by mid-3rd quarter.
CHIP72

Pard4Life wrote:
Were any of you at the game? It was bad!


I was there unfortunately.

As bad as the offense was during the first 2 1/2 quarters (and it was bad), the defense was the bigger disappointment IMO.  There were many, MANY plays where Princeton completed a short pass, a Leopards defender had his hands on the receiver, and the Tigers player broke the tackle and turned what would have been a short gain into either a 1st down or a 6-8 yard gain.  That's a big reason why Princeton had such a good 3rd down conversion rate - they had a lot of 2nd and short and 3rd and short situations because Lafayette failed to tackle properly on 1st and 2nd down.  Of course, Princeton also converted a few 3rd and longs too, often because Lafayette didn't tackle then either.

To add further insult to insult, Princeton even completed a 98 yard TD drive when they were just trying to kill time in the 4th quarter.  (The drive started after the Tigers stopped the Leopards at the 2 yard line on a 4th down play.)

It's a good thing tigers and leopards don't live together in the wild, because if they did and it was like the Princeton/Lafayette game, leopards would be extinct right now.
Pards Rule

pardfan wrote:
9,172   heckuva crowd   campus looked great   all the ingredients were there for a fun night   Sad to see us play so poorly   their qb gave them a decided edge as he seemed totally in control    imaginative plays  27 Atwater killed us.  Midway through third qu. on,  stopped being a game altogether.  Second half stats for us meaningless (4,000 maybe stayed to the end)
they were just better


I rarely leave a game early, even staying in Fargo and Durham to the end. This one deserved my de-pard-ture after the FG made it 33-0. Deplorable game and worse effort.
Pards Rule

The one positive last night: the crowd was so quiet that you could hear Stan's bellowing like you were standing on the field with him.
carney2

BillS wrote:
I heard this from a pretty good source that Frank plans on retirement after 2016 because of the health scare he had last year. If that happens I would hope Bruce cleans house and let's our new coach hire his own staff !


If Bruce is involved in the hiring decision you can be pretty well guaranteed that  it won't be a good one.
NewXbo

It's pretty easy to fix. Learn how to block and learn how to tackle.

I looked around with 8 minutes left and the only people there were the band members and the parents of the players.
Pards Rule

carney2 wrote:
BillS wrote:
I heard this from a pretty good source that Frank plans on retirement after 2016 because of the health scare he had last year. If that happens I would hope Bruce cleans house and let's our new coach hire his own staff !


If Bruce is involved in the hiring decision you can be pretty well guaranteed that  it won't be a good one.


Can we get Heff back??
carney2

Pards Rule wrote:
carney2 wrote:
BillS wrote:
I heard this from a pretty good source that Frank plans on retirement after 2016 because of the health scare he had last year. If that happens I would hope Bruce cleans house and let's our new coach hire his own staff !


If Bruce is involved in the hiring decision you can be pretty well guaranteed that  it won't be a good one.


Can we get Heff back??


Sorry you Heff worshipers, but that is exactly the type of hire I would expect from Brucie - and exactly the type of decision he should not make.
Pard4Life

carney2 wrote:
BillS wrote:
I heard this from a pretty good source that Frank plans on retirement after 2016 because of the health scare he had last year. If that happens I would hope Bruce cleans house and let's our new coach hire his own staff !


If Bruce is involved in the hiring decision you can be pretty well guaranteed that  it won't be a good one.


In Bruce's defense, he hired that field hockey coach who is now at ODU.
edge29

carney2 wrote:
Pards Rule wrote:
carney2 wrote:
BillS wrote:
I heard this from a pretty good source that Frank plans on retirement after 2016 because of the health scare he had last year. If that happens I would hope Bruce cleans house and let's our new coach hire his own staff !


If Bruce is involved in the hiring decision you can be pretty well guaranteed that  it won't be a good one.


Can we get Heff back??


Sorry you Heff worshipers, but that is exactly the type of hire I would expect from Brucie - and exactly the type of decision he should not make.


Us Hef worshipers have good reason.  Tavani will never trust a coordinator as much as he trusts Hef.  so as long as Tavani is HC we need Hef to be consistently successful. Period.  We havent been the same since he left and will not get any better unless he returns or Tavani retires.  

That being said, i cant see him being HC.  It would be a pay cut for him.  There are plenty of alum in the coaching ranks who would be good for the program.
Pards Rule

edge29 wrote:
carney2 wrote:
Pards Rule wrote:
carney2 wrote:
BillS wrote:
I heard this from a pretty good source that Frank plans on retirement after 2016 because of the health scare he had last year. If that happens I would hope Bruce cleans house and let's our new coach hire his own staff !


If Bruce is involved in the hiring decision you can be pretty well guaranteed that  it won't be a good one.


Can we get Heff back??


Sorry you Heff worshipers, but that is exactly the type of hire I would expect from Brucie - and exactly the type of decision he should not make.


Us Hef worshipers have good reason.  Tavani will never trust a coordinator as much as he trusts Hef.  so as long as Tavani is HC we need Hef to be consistently successful. Period.  We havent been the same since he left and will not get any better unless he returns or Tavani retires.  

That being said, i cant see him being HC.  It would be a pay cut for him.  There are plenty of alum in the coaching ranks who would be good for the program.


I know. I said it in jest knowing he wouldn't leave Northwestern. But I really did like him here.
edge29

Pards Rule wrote:
edge29 wrote:
carney2 wrote:
Pards Rule wrote:
carney2 wrote:
BillS wrote:
I heard this from a pretty good source that Frank plans on retirement after 2016 because of the health scare he had last year. If that happens I would hope Bruce cleans house and let's our new coach hire his own staff !


If Bruce is involved in the hiring decision you can be pretty well guaranteed that  it won't be a good one.


Can we get Heff back??


Sorry you Heff worshipers, but that is exactly the type of hire I would expect from Brucie - and exactly the type of decision he should not make.


Us Hef worshipers have good reason.  Tavani will never trust a coordinator as much as he trusts Hef.  so as long as Tavani is HC we need Hef to be consistently successful. Period.  We havent been the same since he left and will not get any better unless he returns or Tavani retires.  

That being said, i cant see him being HC.  It would be a pay cut for him.  There are plenty of alum in the coaching ranks who would be good for the program.


I know. I said it in jest knowing he wouldn't leave Northwestern. But I really did like him here.


We can certainly dream!  That's all we have as LC fans. :/
Pard4Life

So, I was looking in the archives, and I almost spat out my coffee, breakfast, lunch, and snack:

"I'm happy and proud of these young men," Tavani said in the post-game press conference. "We have now become a team. We have learned to play together and how to play to win. There will be no more conservative games. We will play to win."

Lafayette 24, Princeton 17  

http://www.goleopards.com/sports/m-footbl/recaps/091600aab.html
Newleopardfan2

I picked a good game to miss. If Fly calls it "embarrassing," it must have been really ugly. Well, we can only get better. At least Drew has a game under his belt. He'll need that to be ready for league play.
Pard4Life

Newleopardfan2 wrote:
I picked a good game to miss. If Fly calls it "embarrassing," it must have been really ugly. Well, we can only get better. At least Drew has a game under his belt. He'll need that to be ready for league play.


He is a junior, and he looks worse every time he plays.  Well... dropped passes and running for your life will do that I guess.
Pard4Life

The ET was quite pointed.

Bogie... spin the wheel!  We have a few...

- "I don't have an answer"
- "Running out kids with scout team reps"
- Injuries, although it's not an excuse

There is no excuse for the lack of emotion.  We have seen SO many games like this.  But this is the worst since the 2011 Harvard game and the 2011 Bucknell game... except this time, we have the scholarship players.

Different team, same results. There is a pattern here...  http://www.lehighvalleylive.com/l..._see_train_wrec.html#incart_river
Pards Rule

Pard4Life wrote:
The ET was quite pointed.

Bogie... spin the wheel!  We have a few...

- "I don't have an answer"
- "Running out kids with scout team reps"
- Injuries, although it's not an excuse

There is no excuse for the lack of emotion.  We have seen SO many games like this.  But this is the worst since the 2011 Harvard game and the 2011 Bucknell game... except this time, we have the scholarship players.

Different team, same results. There is a pattern here...  http://www.lehighvalleylive.com/l..._see_train_wrec.html#incart_river


I was thinking of that Harvard game which I also witnessed in person.  Two games without an iota of emotion.
bethlehempard

From the Express story:

.... said Tavani, who stoutly refused to use injuries as an excuse ...
Two paragraphs later: "I am befuddled by the sheer number of injuries."
Befuddled is a good term. Maybe bamboozled as far as the fans go.
When we are at a full complement of scholarships Lafayette will be putting about $300,000 in aid on the field per game. That's before salaries and costs.
We don't have to be great but at that rate -- for maybe 8,000-9,000 fans -- we better be competitive.
Otherwise the effort makes no sense.

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