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flyfisher

Rivals, Scout sites

Anyone here ever looked at starting a Rivals or Scout page that is associated with Lafayette College? Several CAA schools have them as well as SOCON and other conferences. I realize we are small but it could be more coverage, potential advertising dollars. I think it is going to continue to grow. Just a thought. College would also recognize the site more. Would not have much of a choice.
LeopardBall10

Re: Rivals, Scout sites

flyfisher wrote:
Anyone here ever looked at starting a Rivals or Scout page that is associated with Lafayette College? Several CAA schools have them as well as SOCON and other conferences. I realize we are small but it could be more coverage, potential advertising dollars. I think it is going to continue to grow. Just a thought. College would also recognize the site more. Would not have much of a choice.


Would Rivals really let any Joe Shmoe start a college page? I would think that  Rivals would have some requirments associated with that, and I would bet that most of those pages are run by the SID (or their intern) at those other schools
Pard4Life

Cur non?
Franks Tanks

Re: Rivals, Scout sites

LeopardBall10 wrote:
flyfisher wrote:
Anyone here ever looked at starting a Rivals or Scout page that is associated with Lafayette College? Several CAA schools have them as well as SOCON and other conferences. I realize we are small but it could be more coverage, potential advertising dollars. I think it is going to continue to grow. Just a thought. College would also recognize the site more. Would not have much of a choice.


Would Rivals really let any Joe Shmoe start a college page? I would think that  Rivals would have some requirments associated with that, and I would bet that most of those pages are run by the SID (or their intern) at those other schools


I think they would, but not sure.  The "big" schools have rival and scout pages run by independent media members.  For example the Penn State pages are both run by guys who used to do the weekly Penn State mags. The Rivals page is run by the guy who published, and I suppose still does publish, Blue & White Illustrated.  The Scout page is run by a former editor of the same publication.  Both sites offer original content, and paid and free message boards. No idea how much cash these sites generate, but pretty sure it is the full time job for both of these guys.
flyfisher

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LeopardBall10 wrote:
flyfisher wrote:
Anyone here ever looked at starting a Rivals or Scout page that is associated with Lafayette College? Several CAA schools have them as well as SOCON and other conferences. I realize we are small but it could be more coverage, potential advertising dollars. I think it is going to continue to grow. Just a thought. College would also recognize the site more. Would not have much of a choice.


Would Rivals really let any Joe Shmoe start a college page? I would think that  Rivals would have some requirments associated with that, and I would bet that most of those pages are run by the SID (or their intern) at those other schools


Two friends of mine own Rivals sites and one owns a Scout site at Power 5 schools. They prefer people already in the journalism industry but lots of individuals own sites. I think Richmond is privately owned as well.
Bogus Megapardus

Does Lehigh have a Rivals/Scout site?
flyfisher

Bogus Megapardus wrote:
Does Lehigh have a Rivals/Scout site?

No.

My point is, college sports continues to grow. People pay for sports info. Businesses advertise. I have another friend that makes a good living simply running a blog for high school sports in the county. Might be an opportunity for someone and it could help LC.
LeopardBall10

Re: Rivals, Scout sites

flyfisher wrote:

Two friends of mine own Rivals sites and one owns a Scout site at Power 5 schools. They prefer people already in the journalism industry but lots of individuals own sites. I think Richmond is privately owned as well.


You learn something new every day. If that is the case, then I echo the earlier sentiment of "Cur non?" Could be a fun side project for someone. Fly, any word from your friends how much work they put into their sites?
flyfisher

Re: Rivals, Scout sites

LeopardBall10 wrote:
flyfisher wrote:

Two friends of mine own Rivals sites and one owns a Scout site at Power 5 schools. They prefer people already in the journalism industry but lots of individuals own sites. I think Richmond is privately owned as well.


You learn something new every day. If that is the case, then I echo the earlier sentiment of "Cur non?" Could be a fun side project for someone. Fly, any word from your friends how much work they put into their sites?


It eventually becomes a full time job. You need someone to interview and do stories and some one to sell ads. One of the guys has the N C State site and he is pulling high 6 figures. he also does 2 magazines a year. There is some money in this.
DFW HOYA

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flyfisher wrote:
It eventually becomes a full time job. You need someone to interview and do stories and some one to sell ads. One of the guys has the N C State site and he is pulling high 6 figures. he also does 2 magazines a year. There is some money in this.


It can be, if your goal is to sell ads and let's be clear: Rivals and Scout (and 247 Sports) are about page views first, and sports second.

There are plenty (if dwindling) of independent sites that can be just as effective without having to resort to banner ads and pop-ups to justify one's existence. In 18 years at HoyaSaxa.com, we've been ad-free and that provides a firewall with those who might think that we're out to make money on them.

Could an independent site work with Lafayette? Absolutely.
Bogus Megapardus

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DFW HOYA wrote:
flyfisher wrote:
It eventually becomes a full time job. You need someone to interview and do stories and some one to sell ads. One of the guys has the N C State site and he is pulling high 6 figures. he also does 2 magazines a year. There is some money in this.


It can be, if your goal is to sell ads and let's be clear: Rivals and Scout (and 247 Sports) are about page views first, and sports second.

There are plenty (if dwindling) of independent sites that can be just as effective without having to resort to banner ads and pop-ups to justify one's existence. In 18 years at HoyaSaxa.com, we've been ad-free and that provides a firewall with those who might think that we're out to make money on them.

Could an independent site work with Lafayette? Absolutely.


HoyaSaxa is the gold standard for PL football blogs, IMHO.  It is insightful and incredibly well-written. That said, I think this board does pretty well on its own merit.  There seems to be a fairly sizable crowd that reads this site, though few actually log in and post comments, for whatever reason. We don't have the long-form commentary, but we make up for it with irascibility and a certain effervescent (albeit somewhat unentitled) snark.

My preference would be just to keep everything here.  This site is not at all difficult to locate with a simple Google search.  "Old School" seems to work for us.  After all, Lafayette does have a long and storied history of over-achievement, does it not?

Cur non.
ELB

Re: Rivals, Scout sites

Bogus Megapardus wrote:
seems to be a fairly sizable crowd that reads this site, though few actually log in and post comments....  we make up for it with irascibility and a certain effervescent (albeit somewhat unentitled) snark.


I would post more frequently if I were crafty enough to be irascible and snarky (maybe I qualify for irascible - after all I do belong to a group named Curmudgeons).
ELB

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ELB wrote:
Bogus Megapardus wrote:
seems to be a fairly sizable crowd that reads this site, though few actually log in and post comments....  we make up for it with irascibility and a certain effervescent (albeit somewhat unentitled) snark.


I would post more frequently if I were crafty enough to be irascible and snarky (maybe I qualify for irascible - after all I do belong to a group named Curmudgeons).


And I'm old enough to be grandfather to one of the Leopard players (whose older brother has made me a great-grandfather - twice).  Irascibility is starting to look good on me.
RichH

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[quote="Bogus Megapardus:49246"]
DFW HOYA wrote:
flyfisher wrote:
It eventually becomes a full time job. You need someone to interview and do stories and some one to sell ads. One of the guys has the N C State site and he is pulling high 6 figures. he also does 2 magazines a year. There is some money in this.


It can be, if your goal is to sell ads and let's be clear: Rivals and Scout (and 247 Sports) are about page views first, and sports second.

There are plenty (if dwindling) of independent sites that can be just as effective without having to resort to banner ads and pop-ups to justify one's existence. In 18 years at HoyaSaxa.com, we've been ad-free and that provides a firewall with those who might think that we're out to make money on them.

Could an independent site work with Lafayette? Absolutely.


HoyaSaxa is the gold standard for PL football blogs, IMHO.  It is insightful and incredibly well-written. That said, I think this board does pretty well on its own merit.  There seems to be a fairly sizable crowd that reads this site, though few actually log in and post comments, for whatever reason. We don't have the long-form commentary, but we make up for it with irascibility and a certain effervescent (albeit somewhat unentitled) snark.

My preference would be just to keep everything here.  This site is not at all difficult to locate with a simple Google search.  "Old School" seems to work for us.  After all, Lafayette does have a long and storied history of over-achievement, does it not?

Cur non.[/quote

Yup.Rivals and the ilk are not for fan conversation,snarky free of charge Smile,they are advertising platforms.
Bogus Megapardus

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ELB wrote:
I would post more frequently if I were crafty enough to be irascible and snarky (maybe I qualify for irascible - after all I do belong to a group named Curmudgeons).


Oh, please.  Irascible and snarky be damned.  This place is just a home for Lafayette sports.  I don't care what others say - we love the college and we love its teams (even it it doesn't seem that way at times).

You should be ashamed for not posting more often, ELB. Shocked
flyfisher

Familiar with Rivals and Scout. I worked for one of them on the side. I can assure you the sites I visit have much more conversation than here, mainly just due to size. They have thousands of members. They have signing day functions, spring game functions and such. Many of the posters know each other or have gotten to know each other. Some even have fundraiser golf tourneys for the respective programs. And they generate their own media in articles, not just linking a Morning Call article. They have access to coaches and administrators and post interviews regularly. The universities had no choice but to embrace them. They have become an arm of the universities SID departments.
LeopardBall10

flyfisher wrote:
Familiar with Rivals and Scout. I worked for one of them on the side. I can assure you the sites I visit have much more conversation than here, mainly just due to size. They have thousands of members. They have signing day functions, spring game functions and such. Many of the posters know each other or have gotten to know each other. Some even have fundraiser golf tourneys for the respective programs. And they generate their own media in articles, not just linking a Morning Call article. They have access to coaches and administrators and post interviews regularly. The universities had no choice but to embrace them. They have become an arm of the universities SID departments.


Would love to see this happen. Especially with Paul R getting up in years, and the GoLeopards website putting out content, but without real substance. Speaking economically I think there is a void in our market here. An enterprising writer(s) could get a lot of page views. The question is, where are those writers? Nothing against the posters here, but Fly is right, you would need to develop your own content, be at practice and all the games. Interview Bruce and the rest of the ADs on a regular basis.
flyfisher

Exactly 10. You would follow recruiting, even interview recruits (which is what i used to do and work camps), even follow some of your competitors. Its easy to get hooked on it. It's like a drug. most people that open those sites are somehow connected to journalism.

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