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NewXbo

Senior Day

Sunday will be senior day for our two seniors, Nick Lindner and Monty Boykins.

Nick Lindner stepped in at point guard as a freshman replacing Tony Johnson. Best known for his penetration as a freshman, he developed his game as a great passer and a three point shooter. He was the Patriot League Tournament MVP in 2015 versus American and a bid to the NCAA Tournament.

Our other senior is Monty Boykins, a power forward. Boykins was injured in the opening game versus Villanova in the 2016-17 season. His shoulder injury has prevented him from playing since the opening game.

While it appears that Boykins would have another year of eligibility at Lafayette, that will not be the case as Boykins has accomplished two Majors during his time here.  For some unknown college policy, Boykins will not get another year of eligibility. The coaching staff is working with Monty to find a school for him for next season.
adcs2

Monty is a power forward?  Well maybe that has been the problem the past four years. Fran has been playing him out of position.

Do you watch the games, XBO?  Monty is a shooting guard and occasionally a small forward.
bethlehempard

Army came back from 25 down to beat Navy by 3 at Annapolis. That puts extra pressure on Lafayette in the Battle of the Bus. It also raises issues about Navy's coaching.

Army 5-11, two games left:
Versus No. 2 Boston
At No. 4 Lehigh

Lafayette 4-11:
Versus No. 4 Lehigh
At No. 1 Bucknell
At Colgate, T6

American, 3-12
Versus Holy Cross, T6
At No. 3 Navy
At No. 4 Lehigh

Army seized the opportunity and we are alone in ninth place right now.
I just got back from a couple days in the Hudson Valley and got to see the beautiful AWP campus from across the river in Cold Spring. It's always a thrilling sight and the 67-degree weather made it better.

Lehigh would tie Navy for third with a win tomorrow, and Lehigh swept Bucknell while Navy is 0-1 versus the Bison.
No. 2 Boston swept Lehigh and split with Navy.

But The Battle for Eighth: that's the Main Event.

Current top team Bucknell swept Army and is 1-0 versus Lafayette.
No. 2 Boston swept Lafayette and is 1-0 versus Army, needing OT to get that win.
Kpard

bethlehempard wrote:
Army came back from 25 down to beat Navy by 3 at Annapolis. That puts extra pressure on Lafayette in the Battle of the Bus. It also raises issues about Navy's coaching.

Army 5-11, two games left:
Versus No. 2 Boston
At No. 4 Lehigh

Lafayette 4-11:
Versus No. 4 Lehigh
At No. 1 Bucknell
At Colgate, T6

American, 3-12
Versus Holy Cross, T6
At No. 3 Navy
At No. 4 Lehigh

Army seized the opportunity and we are alone in ninth place right now.
I just got back from a couple days in the Hudson Valley and got to see the beautiful AWP campus from across the river in Cold Spring. It's always a thrilling sight and the 67-degree weather made it better.

Lehigh would tie Navy for third with a win tomorrow, and Lehigh swept Bucknell while Navy is 0-1 versus the Bison.
No. 2 Boston swept Lehigh and split with Navy.

But The Battle for Eighth: that's the Main Event.

Current top team Bucknell swept Army and is 1-0 versus Lafayette.
No. 2 Boston swept Lafayette and is 1-0 versus Army, needing OT to get that win.


My brain hurts. Pass the scotch.
Andy

Xbozo check your I'M or phone. Wake up!
bethlehempard

So if Army and Lafayette wind up tied for eighth, and American is 10th ...
Lafayette and Army split the season series.
If the Bucky Balls are No. 1, and Boston is No. 2, Lafayette would come
Out ahead with a theoretical win in Lewisburg. If Lafayette loses, Army could prevail with a win versus Boston.
If Lafayette and Army are both swept by the BU teams,
Then if Lehigh is No. 3 that could also be a pass. Lehigh is 1-0 against both and with a double sweep or 1-1 season series with both, the tiebreaker goes to No. 4 ? Navy (or Lehigh).
USNA swept Lafayette and Army.
So this could go to record against No. 5 which could be any of four or five teams.
Beat Lehigh!
Lagavullin is on me.
adcs2

USNA did not sweep army - they lost to them today
bethlehempard

Indeed.
Between a few drinks and my own bad prognostication skills, I contradicted the comment I had made just before.
A win today would keep Lafayette in the hunt and provide a potential tiebreaker.
adcs2

Yeah, I think the only way to finish eighth is to win one more game than the Knights.  The tiebreakers would seem to favor them. An 8/9 game at Christl seems likely.

You aren't the only one drinking.  XBO thinks Monty is a power forward.
bethlehempard

Yes. "Out of position" indeed.
Army has two tough games left. Lafayette has a shot today just because it's Lehigh but despite Reed's proclivities it's a long shot.
Then Stojka. An win at Colgate then probably wouldn't help.
That's assuming American takes No. 10.
So if Army and Lafayette lose all games, Army is No. 8.
If Army loses both and Lafayette loses two then beats Colgate, the tiebreaker will go to Army based on Navy, probably No. 3 or 4.
I think. Play ball!

PS: an interesting item on Army's win.

http://www.capitalgazette.com/spo...-navy-men0219-20170218-story.html
Kpard

Let's get Nick a win for his last home game.

BEAT LEHIGH!!!!!
Bogus Megapardus

Pards have some catching up to do at the half, but those "President's Challenge" videos were awesome.
The Maroon

We're on the wrong end of a men vs. boys fight.
bethlehempard

Just down 21. Got'em right where we want'em.
Down 23.
Toss up some threes.
If FOH survives "The Study" it will have been a farce.
Lafayette isn't competing in recruiting.
Lafayette isn't competing on the floor.
Lafayette is embarrassing and boring to watch.
This team can't play.

It was one thing when we had men versus boys situations against the likes of Seton Hall. That was bad.
This is against a league team. Again and again and again.
Please don't allow this coaching staff to throw more $250,000 Golden Tickets to guys who can't compete. This is D1 scholarship basketball.
Though one wouldn't know it.
Last Amateurs, indeed. We still are!
The Maroon

I had Lafayette +30

I'm still in it!
bethlehempard

You're set. Lehigh feels sorry for us. Lafayette will stay within 25.

I'm looking forward to a thought-provoking incisive interview after this debacle.
The Maroon

bethlehempard wrote:
You're set. Lehigh feels sorry for us. Lafayette will stay within 25.

I'm looking forward to a thought-provoking incisive interview after this debacle.


Pity from Bethlehem also helped me cover the football game.
bethlehempard

Down by 31, and somehow surged to get within 26.

It's a triumph of the human spirit.

81-55.

"They didn't lose, they just ran out of time!"
bethlehempard

It's a damn shame that Lindner's teammates with one exception can't / won't / or don't want to compete.
pardfan

These "scholarships" aren't exactly "two dental mirrors and a bottle of ex..pectorant."  What are we getting in return for all this dough?
njleopard

[quote="bethlehempard:60652"]It's a damn shame that Lindner's teammates with one exception can't / won't / or don't want to compete.[/quote]

There were a few more that tried to compete but it was one ugly game.  Horrific shooting, excessive turnovers, bad defense - Lafayette did it all.

Why didn't FOH call a time early in the first half  when LU was running away  with the games?  He seems indifferent.

Why did he wait in until less than 7 minutes to go to give Miles Cherry a shot?  At least he was hustling and fighting for the ball, got a few points and rebounds.  Too many of Lafayette's players seem to have no purpose being on a D1 BB court.  Hardly a good use of those scholarship dollars.

LU was bigger, faster and taller.  LC looks like a high school team in physique by comparison.

LU showed bad sportsmanship by taking the ball to the hoop in 2 fast breaks when up by 24 with less than a minute to go.

Sad way for Linder to go out. He has been a proud Pard and great competitor.
SixtyEighter

This miasma is too disheartening to even comment upon.I attended the game with my son and his girlfriend.They walked out with about six minutes to go to get to the pig roast early. The game was too stupefying for me to walk out on. Just like the football games - a horrific train wreck from which you can't avert your eyes.And the women's team is worse.As we were driving I joked "If we don't get there on time Lafayette could be out of the game 10-2 by rthe time we sit down." Five minutes in  my son said "Dad you were right."At that point it was 10-2 . Lafayette hadn't made a basket but converted 2 FT's. Lehigh never looked back.
pardfan

Was working in the yard. Did we get our FOH post-game de facto "what do you want from me"/ "they're more athletic"/ "I'm doing my best but 'the type of kid' we recruit isn't getting the job done"  SHRUG?

The bold action required is to get rid of Bruce and FOH and the consultant is not going to touch that.  If the consultant doesn't "go there," Alison is definitely not going to.

So here we are, hoping BY SOME MIRACLE that a Trist, a Heinrichs, or a Jackson or KEMPTON or ALEXANDER (HC) falls into our lap; that, of course, and realizing that the bold action is probably in the rear-view mirror with the hiring of Garrett.
bethlehempard

The Lehigh website said this is the biggest winning margin for LU over LC since 1995.
If there is no change, the fans should boycott the games.
Enough of the program serving the coach.
Let's get a coach who will serve the program.

My dog was barking during the interview, but I think the gist of it was,
"We are a young team" that can't handle pressure or do much of anything.
I used to think we had six sixth men. Actually we have six eighth or ninth men, who wouldn't even be found on other PL teams.

Some of the players are just going through the motions. They've given up and I can't blame them, the staff has given up.

With some effort there could be wins at Colgate and in the first round.
njleopard

[quote="bethlehempard:60662"]The Lehigh website said this is the biggest winning margin for LU over LC since 1995.
If there is no change, the fans should boycott the games.
Enough of the program serving the coach.
Let's get a coach who will serve the program.

My dog was barking during the interview, but I think the gist of it was,
"We are a young team" that can't handle pressure or do much of anything.
I used to think we had six sixth men. Actually we have six eighth or ninth men, who wouldn't even be found on other PL teams.

Some of the players are just going through the motions. They've given up and I can't blame them, the staff has given up.

With some effort there could be wins at Colgate and in the first round.[/quote]

The fans have nearly given up as well.  FSC seemed  like a morgue.  There shouldn't be empty seats for the Rivalry game but there were.  What happened to the Zoo crew? Driven out by political correctness and the constant announcements to keep it clean?
Couldn't LC have given out rally towels or the like?
Total indifference all around except for a few players  and a few fans.
bethlehempard

Colgate's Will Rayman is the league's Rookie of the Week for the fifth time this year. Even Army and American have managed to pick that up.
Lafayette has not had a player or rookie of the week all season, though Lindner and Klinewski deserved it somewhere along the way.
I suspect the weekly awards are strongly correlated with games against Lafayette. Perhaps Foulland is next?
The lack of a rookie weekly winner is telling.
Yes we are young. No we are not good.
Going nowhere fast and there is no hope.

Boycott!
pardfan

News from another galaxy:   University of Denver was in the Final Four in men's soccer and is presently no.1 in both men's ice hockey and men's lacrosse.  Means nothing to most on this board (I'm sure), but given our inability to even have winning seasons, I respect that.

    Point:  They don't Mickey Mouse with their coaches.  You win or you're gone.  That would never happen in PL, you say.  I think, with the advent of scholarships, the PL is there now.  We, of course, are not;  but, the other schools are.  Two (maybe three) bad seasons in FB or BB and the AD is looking elsewhere.  Again, not at LC because of our low level of expectation, but IMO coaches at other PL schools who are losing in major sports are on thin, thin ice.
Bogus Megapardus

pardfan wrote:
University of Denver was in the Final Four in men's soccer and is presently no.1 in both men's ice hockey and men's lacrosse.  Means nothing to most on this board (I'm sure), but given our inability to even have winning seasons, I respect that.


Rebecca Chopp (formerly Colgate's president) is the Chancellor of the University of Denver.  Just FYI for those who weren't aware.
ed65

Bogus Megapardus wrote:
pardfan wrote:
University of Denver was in the Final Four in men's soccer and is presently no.1 in both men's ice hockey and men's lacrosse.  Means nothing to most on this board (I'm sure), but given our inability to even have winning seasons, I respect that.


Rebecca Chopp (formerly Colgate's president) is the Chancellor of the University of Denver.  Just FYI for those who weren't aware.


Bogie: I believe Chopp was controversial at the Gate in regard to athletics but I may be wrong.
bethlehempard

You aren't wrong. I think they didn't care much for Herbst either. Chopp did lean toward football scholarships.
Yet when it comes to sports I don't know if any college president can win.
Like it or not, their first job is raising money. Their second job is maintaining or raising academic prestige.
Considering Gate's success relative to Lafayette, it's food for thought.

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