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NewXbo

Soccer fails to score

Soccer was shut out for the 5th straight game, including last night's loss to Lehigh.
The Maroon

The streak continues with a 4-0 drubbing at the hands of Navy. This team has struggled for the past couple years after being one of the few bright spots for a LONG time.
seenalot

Any team that cant score is deflated after goal #1 and broken after #2.  Not blaming anyone, just the facts.  Scoring was a weak spot before this season, has been for several prior seasons and is not likely to suddenly get fixed next season.  We don't have stud finisher and we lack creativity in mid-field.  Not sure if the later is because we aren't coached to take chances or we just don't have those kinds of players.
Lafalum

Maybe its time to look beyond our shores for that stud??
ed65

Lafalum is correct.  Dennis is a great defensive coach but he simply cannot seem to recruit scorers - this issue is shared by the women's coach.  For some reason LC remains an unacceptable choice for soccer scorers.  Could it be an admissions problem.  I don't know and don't understand it.  Both coaches are excellent: the men's team has won PL Championships and the women's team seems to be improving (although the PL record this year was not good).

This issue may be yet another focus of what is wrong with LLC Athletics: no communication with admissions.
adcs2

"women's team seems to be improving"

The Men's Soccer program has been successful under the current coach although the last two years have been bleak.

The women's program has had NO success under the current coach with a 11-56-9 record in Patriot League games (worst all-time for coaches who have coached more than 20 PL contests) and ZERO wins in the Patriot League tournament.

Please don't compare the two.
Lafalum

adcs2 wrote:
"women's team seems to be improving"

The Men's Soccer program has been successful under the current coach although the last two years have been bleak.

The women's program has had NO success under the current coach with a 11-56-9 record in Patriot League games (worst all-time for coaches who have coached more than 20 PL contests) and ZERO wins in the Patriot League tournament.

Please don't compare the two.


I believe the women's program has a full slate of scholarships  now.
The Maroon

Well we solved this problem: Both coaches need to recruit "scorers." I'm sure that will give them a good chuckle in Kirby.

On the men's side what sticks out is our serious dropoff in possession in the second half vs. the first. Maybe it is a frustration mentality if the hard work isn't paying off.  Maybe we don't utilize our subs as well as other teams - or our subs aren't as strong. I doubt it's conditioning or halftime adjustments although I guess those could be argued.

The women's program has had problems almost since inception - we've just never gotten to the level of the better league teams for whatever reason. It seems to go beyond coach Statham. He had them close to breaking through this year - a couple of OT losses and a nice OOC record (they should have on more win as they were drubbing NJIT before lightning struck).
ed65

adcs2 wrote:
"women's team seems to be improving"

The Men's Soccer program has been successful under the current coach although the last two years have been bleak.

The women's program has had NO success under the current coach with a 11-56-9 record in Patriot League games (worst all-time for coaches who have coached more than 20 PL contests) and ZERO wins in the Patriot League tournament.

Please don't compare the two.


adcs: I certainly did not mean to compare the two programs, and if you read the post, I clearly indicated that the PL record was not good this year.  However, the team had an overall winning record for the first time in many years.  It may have been the result of an easy OOC Schedule but at least it was a winning record which is an elusive achievement for nearly all LC Athletic teams.
ed65

The Maroon wrote:
Well we solved this problem: Both coaches need to recruit "scorers." I'm sure that will give them a good chuckle in Kirby.

On the men's side what sticks out is our serious dropoff in possession in the second half vs. the first. Maybe it is a frustration mentality if the hard work isn't paying off.  Maybe we don't utilize our subs as well as other teams - or our subs aren't as strong. I doubt it's conditioning or halftime adjustments although I guess those could be argued.

The women's program has had problems almost since inception - we've just never gotten to the level of the better league teams for whatever reason. It seems to go beyond coach Statham. He had them close to breaking through this year - a couple of OT losses and a nice OOC record (they should have on more win as they were drubbing NJIT before lightning struck).


The Maroon - are you implying that the coaches should not recruit scorers?  I'm not trying to start a flame war here but I'm afraid I don't understand your comment about "a good chuckle in Kirby."

My point is I don't understand the recruiting philosophy of either soccer coach.  

As Lafalum points out, a full slate of scholarships should help the women's program.
adcs2

"the PL record was not good this year"

Actually a 2-6-1 record RAISES the coach's PL winning percentage. So by our low standards it would be considered a good year.

OOC record is meaningless, just a product of easy scheduling.
ed65

adcs2 wrote:
"the PL record was not good this year"

Actually a 2-6-1 record RAISES the coach's PL winning percentage. So by our low standards it would be considered a good year.

OOC record is meaningless, just a product of easy scheduling.


The easy OOC schedule is what I suspected.
bison137

ed65 wrote:
adcs2 wrote:
"the PL record was not good this year"

Actually a 2-6-1 record RAISES the coach's PL winning percentage. So by our low standards it would be considered a good year.

OOC record is meaningless, just a product of easy scheduling.


The easy OOC schedule is what I suspected.



They certainly didn't have the toughest ooc schedule, but they did have two good wins.   Monmouth went 9-1 in the MAAC and won the regular season title. And Columbia currently is in 3rd place in the Ivy League, which has always been a tough league for women's soccer.   FWIW, UNH is 5th of 9 in America East.

In nine PL games, LC managed to go to OT in five of them - but went 0-4-1 in the OT's.   That looks like the story of the season.    If they had gone 2-2-1 in those OT games, they would have tied for 3rd place (out of 10) in the PL, and it would have been a good season.   If they had just hung on to tie all five, they would be in the PL tournament.
ed65

Thanks Bison for putting things in a relatively positive light.  This analysis could be further evidence that LC women's soccer is improving, albeit not in terms of PL wins.  The proof will be a successful season next year, a tournament appearance and better yet a tournament win against, say the Bisonettes!
The Maroon

ed65 wrote:
The Maroon wrote:
Well we solved this problem: Both coaches need to recruit "scorers." I'm sure that will give them a good chuckle in Kirby.

On the men's side what sticks out is our serious dropoff in possession in the second half vs. the first. Maybe it is a frustration mentality if the hard work isn't paying off.  Maybe we don't utilize our subs as well as other teams - or our subs aren't as strong. I doubt it's conditioning or halftime adjustments although I guess those could be argued.

The women's program has had problems almost since inception - we've just never gotten to the level of the better league teams for whatever reason. It seems to go beyond coach Statham. He had them close to breaking through this year - a couple of OT losses and a nice OOC record (they should have on more win as they were drubbing NJIT before lightning struck).


The Maroon - are you implying that the coaches should not recruit scorers?  I'm not trying to start a flame war here but I'm afraid I don't understand your comment about "a good chuckle in Kirby."

My point is I don't understand the recruiting philosophy of either soccer coach.  

As Lafalum points out, a full slate of scholarships should help the women's program.


It took me a while to return to this (although the topic is certainly dead until next fall).

To me saying the soccer coach needs to recruit "scorers" is like saying the track coach needs to start recruiting "fast runners." Of course they're recruiting scorers. Like any program, we lose recruiting wars, some of our players can't translate their scoring capabilities to college (they may have had a club team with a couple of wonderfully creative midfielders which are harder to find than scorers). Plenty of our kids are "scorers" - or at least they were in HS.

We agree more than we disagree - I'm not clear on the direction of these programs at times either.
Andy

"Combined Fall Sports League record: 10-32-2"

22% winning percentage - about right for this Ath Administration. Never a peep, never an explanation, never a plan, never cause for optimism.  Don't worry the academic awards will be posted shortly.
Lafalum

Both soccer coaches are looking overseas as we speak. There has been clarification on scholarships that has been a problem that is breaking a logjam.
The Maroon

Andy wrote:
"Combined Fall Sports League record: 10-32-2"

22% winning percentage - about right for this Ath Administration. Never a peep, never an explanation, never a plan, never cause for optimism.  Don't worry the academic awards will be posted shortly.


I'll redo the calculations - that seems wrong - even for a cynic like me!
The Maroon

The Maroon wrote:
Andy wrote:
"Combined Fall Sports League record: 10-32-2"

22% winning percentage - about right for this Ath Administration. Never a peep, never an explanation, never a plan, never cause for optimism.  Don't worry the academic awards will be posted shortly.


I'll redo the calculations - that seems wrong - even for a cynic like me!


Well -i can't believe it - but  it got worse. I didn't include the Lehigh game last Saturday or the FH playoff loss.

10-34-2

If you're spinning it positively we were 34-51-6 overall!

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