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Lafalum

Strong Rumors Fein has inside track as new football head

I am hearing from some very strong sources Mickey (4 and 1) Fein is being pushed as Tavani's successor. The applicant pool, from the same sources, say is extraordinary, with many of those mentioned before on this site and more. It would be outrageous that Fein would be considered the favorite in this "National" search.
Pards Rule

No words!!!!
conflictedpard

If this is true, there are no words to describe my dissappointment. So it'll be much of the same.
Franks Tanks

Re: Strong Rumors Fein has iside track as new football head

Lafalum wrote:
I am hearing from some very strong sources Mickey (4 and 1) Fein is being pushed as Tavani's successor. The applicant pool, from the same sources, say is extraordinary, with many of those mentioned before on this site and more. It would be outrageous that Fein would be considered the favorite in this "National" search.


Agreed all the way. His only qualification at this point is that he is on campus.  His offenses have been average at best in every year since 2009, and when they have worked it's been due to tremendous individual players like Scheurman and Ross.  His QB's haven't developed, he can't run the ball and his units have no consistency.  What program would make an internal hire when the team and program are absolutely dreadful?

We have some tremendous candidates for head coach, and if these idiots hire Fein we may as well give up around here.
Franks Tanks

Can someone who knows Bruce please call him and talk some sense into this man.  

Strong cases can be made for Trox, Loose, Cramsey and others.  I have preferences but any of those guys, or someone like them, would be a solid choice and I can understand the decision. There is no rational argument for Mickey Fein. None. How has hiring Grentz worked out so far Bruce?
Kpard

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Lafalum

Franks Tanks wrote:
Can someone who knows Bruce please call him and talk some sense into this man.  

Strong cases can be made for Trox, Loose, Cramsey and others.  I have preferences but any of those guys, or someone like them, would be a solid choice and I can understand the decision. There is no rational argument for Mickey Fein. None. How has hiring Grentz worked out so far Bruce?


Committee Members:
Bruce
Mckitrick
Mike Josephs
Brandon Bryant
Jeff Kirby
Susan Averett
seenalot

Those who can do.   Those who can't, Administer athletic programs at Lafayette.  

I think loyalty is great and admirable, but in this case it would make the firing and the replacement process a joke.  

Mickey would not get a head coach offer at a comparable school and presumably has never gotten one - or he'd have taken it.   Does that tell the hiring committee anything about what his peers in the market think of him?
Pards Rule

Lafalum wrote:
Franks Tanks wrote:
Can someone who knows Bruce please call him and talk some sense into this man.  

Strong cases can be made for Trox, Loose, Cramsey and others.  I have preferences but any of those guys, or someone like them, would be a solid choice and I can understand the decision. There is no rational argument for Mickey Fein. None. How has hiring Grentz worked out so far Bruce?


Committee Members:
Bruce
Mckitrick
Mike Josephs
Brandon Bryant
Jeff Kirby
Susan Averett


Is this true?
BillS

Pards Rule wrote:
Lafalum wrote:
Franks Tanks wrote:
Can someone who knows Bruce please call him and talk some sense into this man.  

Strong cases can be made for Trox, Loose, Cramsey and others.  I have preferences but any of those guys, or someone like them, would be a solid choice and I can understand the decision. There is no rational argument for Mickey Fein. None. How has hiring Grentz worked out so far Bruce?


Committee Members:
Bruce
Mckitrick
Mike Josephs
Brandon Bryant
Jeff Kirby
Susan Averett
If they hire Fein I'm done !

Is this true?
I'm going to email Bruce now and attempt to convince him that hiring Mickey makes no sense and he will lose any credibility he has left.
seenalot

That's not a bad bunch - hoping this is just a bad rumor.
Bogus Megapardus

If Fein is hired as head coach, it will amount to a virtual contract extension for Frank Tavani and a ratification of all that has come before.  The implication is staggering.

The pragmatist in me says that Fein has been told that he is being "seriously considered" and that he has a "fine chance" or (some such thing) but that the focus is on an outside candidate.

Or maybe this is just "Fake News Friday."
Bogus Megapardus

Lafalum wrote:
Committee Members:
Bruce
Mckitrick
Mike Josephs
Brandon Bryant
Jeff Kirby
Susan Averett

Committee make sense to me (Kirby included because his family endows the HC).  So how could this group possibly think that Fein is the best candidate for the job?
Bogus Megapardus

I can just read it now.

So "excited" that Coach Fein has accepted . . . . welcome the "change" and "new direction" . . . . "extensive experience" with Lafayette and the Patriot League . . . "familiar with" the program and the recruits . . . . blah, blah, blah.

You know what? Don't even bother. Spare everyone the platitudes. Just come out a say it - you took the chickenshit route, gave in to Tavani and essentially extended his contract via his hand-picked successor.

I hope nobody is surprised if Tavani is seen mumbling along the sidelines next fall as "coach emeritus" or some such thing.  He'll probably keep his corner office, too; he can't bear the notion of some other guy farting in his chair.
PardDad71

I'm guessing this is all rumors and speculation.   First we probably don't have any accurate information about who has actually applied for the job, much less interviewed.    Second, since applications may still be coming in, for anyone to be the front runner before interviews is a bizarre statement.

But hey, no one said we're normal, so anything is possible.

I will say if the committee (which looks about as good as we could have hoped) were to select Fein, I would give him a chance.  I agree with the assement of his resume in an earlier post, but you never can tell who will make a good HC and who won't (and for that matter, how much say Fein really had under FT).

I chalk this more up to we are all wanting information that just doesn't exist, and someone who knows something, but not a lot did some speculating
PardDad71

no mention of LC on the scoop, which is of course where we first heard about frank
Bogus Megapardus

If this rumor proves true, I will (on this Board) continue to refer to the Head Football Coach as "Frank Tavani" and "Tavani" for all purposes.  If the new Head Football Coach prefers another name, I will not use it.  He will have no other name.

Now, Coach Fein is a terrific guy from all I have heard.  It's just that it would be best if he were to go be Coach Fine someplace else.  While he ramians at Lafayette, henceforth I will call him Frank Tavani.

Also I will refer to him and the schemes he runs as "Frankosaurus."  I will post mildly disparaging "fan art" of a dinosaur with his head superimposed.  I will poke fun at him, the AD, the administration, the faculty and the program as a whole using a "chalkboard" with said dinosaur.  I will add frequent appearances by "Zippy the Pinhead" just to drive the point home, when appropriate.  I will create and employ comedic, theme-appropriate avatars expressing my great displeasure and I will distribute them to others (with detailed instructions about how to launch them).

All of this I promise.
Bogus Megapardus

It's the "MickiLeaks" scandal. Rolling Eyes
The Maroon

Since I have enough to be pissed off about this week I'm going to assume that coach F APPEARS to be the front-runner because he happens to be on campus and not get too worked up....

However random food for though - we didn't have much faith Tavani could do much of anything and he DID get the job done. I also recall when Lehigh hired their defensive coordinator off of a horrible defensive team and Kevin Higgins certainly turned out OK for them.

Yes - I'm trying to soften the blow, but I'll be ridiculously PO'd if Fein is the HC.
Pardsfriend

Re: Strong Rumors Fein has inside track as new football head

Lafalum wrote:
I am hearing from some very strong sources Mickey (4 and 1) Fein is being pushed as Tavani's successor. The applicant pool, from the same sources, say is extraordinary, with many of those mentioned before on this site and more. It would be outrageous that Fein would be considered the favorite in this "National" search.


 Not true, and I spoke with a person very close to football and athletics.

My understanding is nobody is being "pushed". There is a search firm advising the college in addition to the "committee.
Bogus Megapardus

So, can we pretend this thread never happened? Razz
flyfisher

I cannot imagine this is true. Heck, most if the team doesn't even like him. This has to be rumor.
zenator

flyfisher wrote:
I cannot imagine this is true. Heck, most if the team doesn't even like him. This has to be rumor.


Heard the same thing, though I defer to your source. Fein is apparently not well respected by the players. If he is appointed, then I expect that will lead to transfer requests from some of the better, young players.

In contrast, McFadden appears to be really well regarded even by the DBs, who took a lot of sh*t from him for arm-tackling etc. I really hope that he stays.
Lafalum

zenator wrote:
flyfisher wrote:
I cannot imagine this is true. Heck, most if the team doesn't even like him. This has to be rumor.


Heard the same thing, though I defer to your source. Fein is apparently not well respected by the players. If he is appointed, then I expect that will lead to transfer requests from some of the better, young players.

In contrast, McFadden appears to be really well regarded even by the DBs, who took a lot of sh*t from him for arm-tackling etc. I really hope that he stays.


I hope Bruce and Katie are reading this...this Board could be saving their a--.
NewXbo

Lafalum wrote:
zenator wrote:
flyfisher wrote:
I cannot imagine this is true. Heck, most if the team doesn't even like him. This has to be rumor.


Heard the same thing, though I defer to your source. Fein is apparently not well respected by the players. If he is appointed, then I expect that will lead to transfer requests from some of the better, young players.

In contrast, McFadden appears to be really well regarded even by the DBs, who took a lot of sh*t from him for arm-tackling etc. I really hope that he stays.


I hope Bruce and Katie are reading this...this Board could be saving their a--.



This is disturbing ,it sounds like the administration is taking the easy way out like it did when it hired Grentz, just days after Nolan was fired.

Maybe they expect the consulting firm to fix all our problems or maybe they expect to blame everything on them.
Pard4Life

Kpard wrote:
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Second that.
The Maroon

Time - and to be fair she hasn't had much of that-will tell if the Grentz hire works out. Even if it doesn't,  there's a difference between hiring a hall of fame basketball coach who had only been around one season and a coordinator whose body of work on the field has been less than spectacular.  






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seenalot

What do you guys think a Loose hiring would mean to Link?  I'm inclined to think they would be oil and water - and might prompt the later"s departure,
Lafalum

seenalot wrote:
What do you guys think a Loose hiring would mean to Link?  I'm inclined to think they would be oil and water - and might prompt the later"s departure,


If an outsider is hired a housecleaning is likely and necessary. We will lose some people, but the culture must be changed.
seenalot

Agree.  Just seems a Link exit is more certain under Loose v alternatives.  And given performance of D in past two years I'm ok with that.
flyfisher

Lafalum wrote:
seenalot wrote:
What do you guys think a Loose hiring would mean to Link?  I'm inclined to think they would be oil and water - and might prompt the later"s departure,


If an outsider is hired a housecleaning is likely and necessary. We will lose some people, but the culture must be changed.


Link and Loose play different defenses if given a choice. I wouldn't  assume that if Loose were head coach that Link would automatically be gone. Coaches know how to coach different defenses.

What I will say is the coordinator positions are most important to a head coach. They usually want someone that can coach the style of football they dem most effective and someone they can bond with on several fronts. Most new head coaches hire their own coordinators.

This is an interesting hire for LC. We will learn a lot from this hire. While I have no idea who they will hire, I really hope they look at several different options. Most programs even retain a recruitor to help them through this. There are sports recruitrs just like business. Plus it comes in handy when approaching coaches at other schools. Give both parties the chance to say they have not been approached by a school r the school can say they have not contacted a person of interest.
Kpard

FWIW, Fein at today's hoops contest. Back in jeans and a sweatshirt.
Pardsfriend

Defensive Coordinator(s)

flyfisher wrote:
Lafalum wrote:
seenalot wrote:
What do you guys think a Loose hiring would mean to Link?  I'm inclined to think they would be oil and water - and might prompt the later"s departure,


If an outsider is hired a housecleaning is likely and necessary. We will lose some people, but the culture must be changed.


Link and Loose play different defenses if given a choice. I wouldn't  assume that if Loose were head coach that Link would automatically be gone. Coaches know how to coach different defenses.

What I will say is the coordinator positions are most important to a head coach. They usually want someone that can coach the style of football they dem most effective and someone they can bond with on several fronts. Most new head coaches hire their own coordinators.

This is an interesting hire for LC. We will learn a lot from this hire. While I have no idea who they will hire, I really hope they look at several different options. Most programs even retain a recruitor to help them through this. There are sports recruitrs just like business. Plus it comes in handy when approaching coaches at other schools. Give both parties the chance to say they have not been approached by a school r the school can say they have not contacted a person of interest.


 From a coaching perspective, when the scheme is executed correctly, prefer Link's system over Loose.  Observed Loose defenses closely for four years.  Tempo is slow, and play calls take too long to be signaled onto field.  I respect his (Looses') coaching acumen, but like the Link system overall.  I prefer attack, rather than react.

 I expect the new head coach to hire a coordinator that runs a system suitable to the personnel available at LC.
flyfisher

I hope it is true that we are utilizing a search firm.

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