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Lafalum

Two students arrested and arraigned in Montgomery County Ct.

They were involved in a drug ring that sold drugs at the college and at Haverford and Gettysburg. Drugs were found in their dorm rooms .  One student has left school the other is still enrolled ( not for long).

Our own campus safety people were involved in the searches apparently in March. Story can be found in the Morninig Call and Easton Express online.
Pards Rule

Re: Two students arrested and arraigned in Montgomery County

Lafalum wrote:
They were involved in a drug ring that sold drugs at the college and at Haverford and Gettysburg. Drugs were found in their dorm rooms .  One student has left school the other is still enrolled ( not for long).

Our own campus safety people were involved in the searches apparently in March. Story can be found in the Morninig Call and Easton Express online.


Yep Lafayette mentioned along with Gettysburg and Haverford as the colleges supplied in the effort. John C. Rosemann, 20, of Conn., who apparently withdrew a few weeks ago, and Christian S. Euler, 23, of Villanova, Pa. were identified in today's Philadelphia Inquirer as the Pards arrested. Ugh! One day after the great Inquirer article on page 3 of yesterdays Inquirer about Byerly.
Kpard

This should surprise no one. This, sadly, is where our society is at. And it, unfortunately is not going to improve.
Bogus Megapardus

CNN now has picked up the story.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/04/22/us/...-bust/index.html?hpt=hp_inthenews
bethlehempard

This is not a sign of the times. This could have happened at Lafayette or any college at any time in the past 40 or so years.
I suspect there is less of this going on now than in my era, late 70s on. I don't know but fairly open pot smoking outdoors happened then.
I don't see it now.
Bogus Megapardus

So does this story give Pardsville some street cred with the kids?  I could see a bump in applications here . . .  Cool
flyfisher

Unfortunately this is common on many college campuses. There was a large bust at unc -chapel hill about 2 years ago. Most frats and sororities as well as the general student body have their suppliers.
Bogus Megapardus

The (kinda funny) Daily Mail tabloid version:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/a...reppy-Philadelphia-drug-ring.html

I think these guys simply watched one too many episodes of "Weeds."  I concur with flyfisher - when I was on campus virtually every house had its supplier.  Everyone knew that.
flyfisher

I have two convicted dealers working for me now. Both came out of a work release program. One of the two was supplying the Greeks and athletes at his university and two other universities close by. He had just graduated with honors in the last week and was already enrolled in law school. When arrested he had 179K in cash alone on him. Lotta cash for a frat boy. Good news is he is developing a career but not what it could have been.
Bogus Megapardus

flyfisher

I am either out of touch or I cant tell what that is.
Lafalum

A lacrosse stick
BillS

Lafalum wrote:
A lacrosse stick
this isn't supposed to happen with preppy kids Lol yeah right...ok the big question is how many of these kids will actually get jail time considering the high powered law firms the families can hire?
Bogus Megapardus

Lafalum wrote:
A lacrosse stick


It must have measured under 40 inches when it was seized.  Rolling Eyes
Bogus Megapardus

BillS wrote:
this isn't supposed to happen with preppy kids Lol yeah right...ok the big question is how many of these kids will actually get jail time considering the high powered law firms the families can hire?


So you'd be OK with putting a basketball out there with the paraphernalia if the alleged drug dealers . . . let's say . . . played basketball?





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Lafalum

BillS wrote:
Lafalum wrote:
A lacrosse stick
this isn't supposed to happen with preppy kids Lol yeah right...ok the big question is how many of these kids will actually get jail time considering the high powered law firms the families can hire?


given all the publicity and class envy attacks…these  guys will get jail time. Given Byerly's message to parents today and the promise of zero tolerance if these kids give up names in a plea bargin there are a  number of students who should be p**ing in their pants today.
Bogus Megapardus

Lafalum wrote:
zero tolerance if these kids give up names


http://www.youtube.com/embed/UJ4H...;start=0&end=8&autoplay=1
Bogus Megapardus

"There, but for the Grace of God, go I."

I was President of my fraternity chapter at Lafayette in the 1980s.  I did not sell drugs, but I knew full well who did.  I did not report those brothers to the Dean, and I did not turn them into the police, even though I knew what they were doing was illegal.

I also approved personally, as President of the chapter, the purchase of beer and other alcoholic beverages for chapter-sponsored "Pub Nights" using chapter social funds.  I knew that underage students would be invited and I knew that underage students were drinking in the house.  I did not notify the Dean and I did not call the police, even though I knew that the activity was illegal.

Moreover none of my brothers turned me in or notified the police or the Dean about my approval and supervision of these activities.  No one who attended the parties at my house (which included members of many other Greek organizations) turned me in or notified the Dean or the police about my approval and supervision of these activities.

I am not suggesting that the Lafayette students who were "caught" in this recent episode should not be prosecuted as appropriate or that President Byerly should not take the steps necessary to protect the integrity of the college.  But I am suggesting that I'd be a hypocrite of the first order were I to join a chorus lilting in their condemnation.




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Lafalum

Bogus Megapardus wrote:
"There, but for the Grace of God, go I."

I was President of my fraternity chapter at Lafayette in the 1980s.  I did not sell drugs, but I knew full well who did.  I did not report those brothers to the Dean, and I did not turn them into the police, even though I knew what they were doing was illegal.

I also approved personally, as President of the chapter, the purchase of beer and other alcoholic beverages for chapter-sponsored "Pub Nights" using chapter social funds.  I knew that underage students would be invited and I knew that underage students were drinking in the house.  I did not notify the Dean and I did not call the police, even though I knew that the activity was illegal.

Moreover none of my brothers turned me in or notified the police or the Dean about my approval and supervision of these activities.  No one who attended the parties at my house (which included members of many other Greek organizations) turned me in or notified the Dean or the police about my approval and supervision of these activities.

I am not suggesting that the Lafayette students who were "caught" in this recent episode should not be prosecuted as appropriate or that President Byerly should not take the steps necessary to protect the integrity of the college.  But I am suggestion that I'd be a hypocrite of the first order were I to join a chorus lilting in their condemnation.


Big difference if your facing felony jail time. He will give names if it lightens his sentence.
Lost Again

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Big difference if your facing felony jail time. He will give names if it lightens his sentence.


I doubt anyone is really interested in the downstream side of the "organization".
bethlehempard

White Punks on Dope always makes for good copy but this isn't Carlos and the Cartel. I haven't read about since it came out but the one Lafayette kid had just over an ounce of pot in that story.
If they arrested every college student with an ounce ...
Lighten up. The LC "connection" is no big deal and kids who bought a joint won't be rounded up.
Lafalum

bethlehempard wrote:
White Punks on Dope always makes for good copy but this isn't Carlos and the Cartel. I haven't read about since it came out but the one Lafayette kid had just over an ounce of pot in that story.
If they arrested every college student with an ounce ...
Lighten up. The LC "connection" is no big deal and kids who bought a joint won't be rounded up.


The two who were selling will get jail time despite his "one ounce." These stories tend to take on a life of their own with elements of "privileged college youth."  They have already posted large bail which points to a legal path with significant jeopardy and felony charges. The college itself got a PR black eye, and we saw how that prompts a response after an out of control all college day two years ago. There will be consequences. Best for some people to keep their head down.
Pard4Life

I honestly believe that this incident is not that big of an embarrassment for the college.  This seems relatively common and not outside the norm of bad college behavior. It's simply news because its a ring, how the ring was plotted, and the race of the kids.  If this were a bunch of black guys from West Philly, it'd be aired halfway through the nighty news cast.
flyfisher

Pard4Life wrote:
I honestly believe that this incident is not that big of an embarrassment for the college.  This seems relatively common and not outside the norm of bad college behavior. It's simply news because its a ring, how the ring was plotted, and the race of the kids.  If this were a bunch of black guys from West Philly, it'd be aired halfway through the nighty news cast.


Agree. This could have happened anywhere. And probably does. There is someone selling dope on most campuses.
Bogus Megapardus

At Duke University you can become the darling of the progressive media and of the tenured academic faculty by operating your own personal pornographic film actor agency out of your dorm room.

At Lafayette College you can go to jail for having in your possession a small Ziplock bag containing ounce of bud (albeit of reputedly fine quality).

Now that I've pondered fully the relative moral and legal equivalencies, the only distinction between the two circumstances that I can discern is whether or not you used to play lacrosse.  Obviously the sport must be banned.
Pard4Life

Bogus Megapardus wrote:
At Duke University you can become the darling of the progressive media and of the tenured academic faculty by operating your own personal pornographic film actor agency out of your dorm room.

At Lafayette College you can go to jail for having in your possession a small Ziplock bag containing ounce of bud (albeit of reputedly fine quality).

Now that I've pondered fully the relative moral and legal equivalencies, the only distinction between the two circumstances that I can discern is whether or not you used to play lacrosse.  Obviously the sport must be banned.


I'd hardly consider Belle Knox of Duke a darling of the progressive media. If anything the media at large is still kind of confused how to handle it outside of tabloid fodder and rational debate.  

I didn't think you could still go to jail over something like that?  Clearly a show trial here.

They might as well ban lacrosse with the way things are looking for the team i.e. the Little Giants of lacrosse who did not have a miracle turnaround.

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