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carney2

W&M Pregame - "Into the Valley of Death ..."

The "big" scrimmage is over and the team is only days away from settling into pregame mode.  We might as well join them.

The Tribe has a strong program and has been flirting with the FCS Top 25 for much of the preseason.  They went 7-5 last year and beat the Pards 33-19, with a dominant second half performance   Many have already jotted this year’s game into Lafayette’s loss column, so let’s start with the reasons William & Mary should win:

A solid core of offensive starters returns.  

- Junior QB Steve Cluley threw for 141 yds. and 1 TD last year against Lafayette, and ran for another 87 yds. and 2 TDs in that same game.

- Senior RB Mikal Abdul Saboor was All-CAA in 2014, averaged 115.1 yds. per game, and recorded the 6th best single season rushing record (1,266 yds.) in W&M history.

- The OL is the deepest and strongest position on the team.

The Tribe recruits well year in and year out.  They have a solid tradition, name recognition, strong academics, and a great location.

W&M redshirts.  They really redshirt!  The current roster lists at least 15 “redshirt freshmen.”  That means that most of the “seniors” you will see at Fisher will actually be 5th year players.

They play in the Colonial Athletic Association, easily the best FCS football conference in the country.

Even with all of these advantages, this game is not a gimme for the visitors.  Ignoring position breakdowns and other Lafayette-centric comments that we’ve heard over and over, here are some reasons that Lafayette could win:

The W&M defense ranked in the bottom half of the CAA in 2014.  The pass defense was the second worst in the conference, giving up 241.5 yds. per game.

The Tribe’s receiving corps was gutted by graduation.  This will be a total rebuilding job.  

Tribe coach Jimmye Laycock has a reputation for doing less with more.  Despite his recruiting and redshirt advantages, he consistently guides his teams to middle of the pack finishes in the CAA.  And, just like another coach we know and love, Laycock’s teams have a habit of not showing up for every game.

For the first time in this series the Pards will be W&M’s first game of the year.  

No rational person would bet the rent money on the Pards in this one.  Still, this is a winnable game.  In my opinion however, it will be won or lost on the other side of the field.  If, as has been known to happen, the Tribe fields more Marys than Williams (how about 2012’s lightning bowl, and the first half last year?), anything is possible.  No matter what however, the home team has to show up and play a near perfect game.  And, above all, a blowout like two years ago is beyond unacceptable.  That would post storm warnings for this entire season.

I will truly miss this series now that it’s drawing to a close.  W&M is the type of program that Lafayette - and the remainder of the Patriot League - should be playing on a regular basis.  I guess we now move on to Delaware as our CAA mountain to climb and that will be exciting.  But it will be tough to top an evening at Zable tailgating with Tribe4SF and his buds.

Your turn.
flyfisher

They will run right at us behind an excellent o-line. Great o-line coach in Solderitch. Defensively, while down last year, they are usually sound on D. Doubt we are able to run the ball on them. Their defense may have been off last year but they play in the CAA. Much different level of play than the PL.

While they do redshirt, that is not a big deal in the CAA. Everyone in the CAA redshirts when possible. The odd part is that we/PL doesn't.

Where W&M has an advantage is in getting kids to walk on the team. For 30K a year you can get someone to walk on and get a great education. And possibly earn a scholarship as Laycock has a habit of awarding several walk-ons with aid later on. LC is going to have a hard time getting a kid of EQUAL TALENT to walk on at 65K/year.
carney2

flyfisher wrote:
They will run right at us behind an excellent o-line. Great o-line coach in Solderitch. Defensively, while down last year, they are usually sound on D. Doubt we are able to run the ball on them. Their defense may have been off last year but they play in the CAA. Much different level of play than the PL.


Pretty much what I was thinking.

On offense we will be hard pressed to run the ball behind our OL.  We will have to throw the ball effectively to move the chains.  Do we have the receivers to make it happen?  Can the OL provide time?  Mickey and Frank have been reticent to use the middle of the field for their pass game.  They need to change their ways.

On defense we will have to pack the box to give their OL too many to block.  We will have to trust man coverage by our very good DBs.  Doesn't sound like a normal 4-2-5 will work against all that front line blocking.

No one said this will be easy.
NE Leopard

With a young offense, especially on the OLINE and backfield, the keys to the game will be eliminate mistakes, penalties and turnovers on O, play solid Defense and have a great plan for special teams. I would say we a very good punt and kick return unit, that should be worth at least 7 points in the game.

Frank has stated more than once about playing tough D to keep the ball out of the opposition hands, control the time of possession and eliminate turnovers/mistakes.
bison137

Re: W&M Pregame - "Into the Valley of Death ...&quo

carney2 wrote:

They play in the Colonial Athletic Association, easily the best FCS football conference in the country.




The CAA - easily the second best FCS football conference.   Not close to the MVC at the moment.   The #10 MVC team last year was better than the third best CAA team  (Sagarin).
NewXbo

Re: W&M Pregame - "Into the Valley of Death ...&

bison137 wrote:
carney2 wrote:

They play in the Colonial Athletic Association, easily the best FCS football conference in the country.




The CAA - easily the second best FCS football conference.   Not close to the MVC at the moment.   The #10 MVC team last year was better than the third best CAA team  (Sagarin).


Let's not start confusing Carney with facts.
Bogus Megapardus

Come September 5, William & Mary is the best team in the country as far as I'm concerned.  I'm counting on the Pards to play them that way.
Tribe4SF

flyfisher wrote:
They will run right at us behind an excellent o-line. Great o-line coach in Solderitch. Defensively, while down last year, they are usually sound on D. Doubt we are able to run the ball on them. Their defense may have been off last year but they play in the CAA. Much different level of play than the PL.

While they do redshirt, that is not a big deal in the CAA. Everyone in the CAA redshirts when possible. The odd part is that we/PL doesn't.

Where W&M has an advantage is in getting kids to walk on the team. For 30K a year you can get someone to walk on and get a great education. And possibly earn a scholarship as Laycock has a habit of awarding several walk-ons with aid later on. LC is going to have a hard time getting a kid of EQUAL TALENT to walk on at 65K/year.


Solderitch at work this fall.

http://www.tribeathletics.com/med...mp;id=4276691&db_oem_id=25100
Andy

Tribe4SF wrote:
flyfisher wrote:
They will run right at us behind an excellent o-line. Great o-line coach in Solderitch. Defensively, while down last year, they are usually sound on D. Doubt we are able to run the ball on them. Their defense may have been off last year but they play in the CAA. Much different level of play than the PL.

While they do redshirt, that is not a big deal in the CAA. Everyone in the CAA redshirts when possible. The odd part is that we/PL doesn't.

Where W&M has an advantage is in getting kids to walk on the team. For 30K a year you can get someone to walk on and get a great education. And possibly earn a scholarship as Laycock has a habit of awarding several walk-ons with aid later on. LC is going to have a hard time getting a kid of EQUAL TALENT to walk on at 65K/year.


Solderitch at work this fall.

http://www.tribeathletics.com/med...mp;id=4276691&db_oem_id=25100


Wow! Look at all that beef!  So that's what an oline group is supposed to look like. Stan's dream.
edge29

Andy wrote:
Tribe4SF wrote:
flyfisher wrote:
They will run right at us behind an excellent o-line. Great o-line coach in Solderitch. Defensively, while down last year, they are usually sound on D. Doubt we are able to run the ball on them. Their defense may have been off last year but they play in the CAA. Much different level of play than the PL.

While they do redshirt, that is not a big deal in the CAA. Everyone in the CAA redshirts when possible. The odd part is that we/PL doesn't.

Where W&M has an advantage is in getting kids to walk on the team. For 30K a year you can get someone to walk on and get a great education. And possibly earn a scholarship as Laycock has a habit of awarding several walk-ons with aid later on. LC is going to have a hard time getting a kid of EQUAL TALENT to walk on at 65K/year.




Solderitch at work this fall.

http://www.tribeathletics.com/med...mp;id=4276691&db_oem_id=25100


Wow! Look at all that beef!  So that's what an oline group is supposed to look like. Stan's dream.


That group is impressive.  Very large and very athletic.  We will find out how good our D really is!
Andy

edge29 wrote:
Andy wrote:
Tribe4SF wrote:
flyfisher wrote:
They will run right at us behind an excellent o-line. Great o-line coach in Solderitch. Defensively, while down last year, they are usually sound on D. Doubt we are able to run the ball on them. Their defense may have been off last year but they play in the CAA. Much different level of play than the PL.

While they do redshirt, that is not a big deal in the CAA. Everyone in the CAA redshirts when possible. The odd part is that we/PL doesn't.

Where W&M has an advantage is in getting kids to walk on the team. For 30K a year you can get someone to walk on and get a great education. And possibly earn a scholarship as Laycock has a habit of awarding several walk-ons with aid later on. LC is going to have a hard time getting a kid of EQUAL TALENT to walk on at 65K/year.


Solderitch at work this fall.

http://www.tribeathletics.com/med...mp;id=4276691&db_oem_id=25100


Wow! Look at all that beef!  So that's what an oline group is supposed to look like. Stan's dream.


That group is impressive.  Very large and very athletic.  We will find out how good our D really is!


Yes, and who knows if Mercado and Labudev will even play?  If questionable physically, would make sense to hold them out for PL play. In their absence (and Vickers, too, not sure if he was viable replacement at DT) things get real thin real quick.

Awaiting word on Gralish.
flyfisher

Solderitch at W&M is a great, great coach. Former player there, played for the Vikings as well and got his MBA at W&M. I hope he gets consideration for the HC job when Laycock retires.

Our linemen are usually not as big as what W&M has. I have no idea how well they move. Not qualified to speak on that.

Vickers is a DE.
Franks Tanks

Andy wrote:
edge29 wrote:
Andy wrote:
Tribe4SF wrote:
flyfisher wrote:
They will run right at us behind an excellent o-line. Great o-line coach in Solderitch. Defensively, while down last year, they are usually sound on D. Doubt we are able to run the ball on them. Their defense may have been off last year but they play in the CAA. Much different level of play than the PL.

While they do redshirt, that is not a big deal in the CAA. Everyone in the CAA redshirts when possible. The odd part is that we/PL doesn't.

Where W&M has an advantage is in getting kids to walk on the team. For 30K a year you can get someone to walk on and get a great education. And possibly earn a scholarship as Laycock has a habit of awarding several walk-ons with aid later on. LC is going to have a hard time getting a kid of EQUAL TALENT to walk on at 65K/year.


Solderitch at work this fall.

http://www.tribeathletics.com/med...mp;id=4276691&db_oem_id=25100


Wow! Look at all that beef!  So that's what an oline group is supposed to look like. Stan's dream.


That group is impressive.  Very large and very athletic.  We will find out how good our D really is!


Yes, and who knows if Mercado and Labudev will even play?  If questionable physically, would make sense to hold them out for PL play. In their absence (and Vickers, too, not sure if he was viable replacement at DT) things get real thin real quick.

Awaiting word on Gralish.


What happened to Mercado?  Sorry I've been out of the loop.

If we ever get Mercado, Cepeda, Rothrock and Labudev healthy all at once look out!
Andy

Franks Tanks wrote:
Andy wrote:
edge29 wrote:
Andy wrote:
Tribe4SF wrote:
flyfisher wrote:
They will run right at us behind an excellent o-line. Great o-line coach in Solderitch. Defensively, while down last year, they are usually sound on D. Doubt we are able to run the ball on them. Their defense may have been off last year but they play in the CAA. Much different level of play than the PL.

While they do redshirt, that is not a big deal in the CAA. Everyone in the CAA redshirts when possible. The odd part is that we/PL doesn't.

Where W&M has an advantage is in getting kids to walk on the team. For 30K a year you can get someone to walk on and get a great education. And possibly earn a scholarship as Laycock has a habit of awarding several walk-ons with aid later on. LC is going to have a hard time getting a kid of EQUAL TALENT to walk on at 65K/year.


Solderitch at work this fall.

http://www.tribeathletics.com/med...mp;id=4276691&db_oem_id=25100


Wow! Look at all that beef!  So that's what an oline group is supposed to look like. Stan's dream.


That group is impressive.  Very large and very athletic.  We will find out how good our D really is!


Yes, and who knows if Mercado and Labudev will even play?  If questionable physically, would make sense to hold them out for PL play. In their absence (and Vickers, too, not sure if he was viable replacement at DT) things get real thin real quick.

Awaiting word on Gralish.


What happened to Mercado?  Sorry I've been out of the loop.

If we ever get Mercado, Cepeda, Rothrock and Labudev healthy all at once look out!


From what I gather, kind of cumulative wear and tear on the knees, swelling. Had some probs last year, I believe.  I would guess he'll play but who knows.

Fly, Thanks on Vickers,  know listed as DE, just wondering if he wouldnt be better at DT than some of our listed backups (if he were healthy) if Merc and Lab cant go.
Pardsfriend

W@M D

Up front, they graduated their top 4 down linemen on D', including two who went to nfl camps.  I'm convinced the game will be won with our OL collective ability  to drive block and run the ball.

I expect us to make a couple of plays on D'.....
Tribe4SF

Re: W@M D

Pardsfriend wrote:
Up front, they graduated their top 4 down linemen on D', including two who went to nfl camps.  I'm convinced the game will be won with our OL collective ability  to drive block and run the ball.

I expect us to make a couple of plays on D'.....


We lost 3 starters on the DL and return Tyler Claytor, and Isaiah Stephens who played a lot as a true freshman at the other DT spot. Here's the preview on the DL.

http://www.tribeathletics.com/med...mp;db_oem_id=25100&id=4304393
Andy

Re: W@M D

Tribe4SF wrote:
Pardsfriend wrote:
Up front, they graduated their top 4 down linemen on D', including two who went to nfl camps.  I'm convinced the game will be won with our OL collective ability  to drive block and run the ball.

I expect us to make a couple of plays on D'.....


We lost 3 starters on the DL and return Tyler Claytor, and Isaiah Stephens who played a lot as a true freshman at the other DT spot. Here's the preview on the DL.

http://www.tribeathletics.com/med...mp;db_oem_id=25100&id=4304393


Nice stuff, great coverage from your Sports Info people.
Andy

Game week is here.  Let's Go Pards!!!!
flyfisher

What has happened to The Morning Call? i am reading all these articles on how great the Squawks are going to be but nothing on us.
Tribe4SF

W&M game notes.

http://www.nmnathletics.com/fls/2...s/fb/2015/lc2.pdf?DB_OEM_ID=25100
ELB

Tribe4SF wrote:
W&M game notes.

http://www.nmnathletics.com/fls/2...s/fb/2015/lc2.pdf?DB_OEM_ID=25100


Thanks for the link Tribe - ironic that we have to visit the W&M football website to find the LC Leopard depth chart.
Andy

LC game notes: http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schoo...6/release/release_20150901aaa.pdf
flyfisher

ELB wrote:
Tribe4SF wrote:
W&M game notes.

http://www.nmnathletics.com/fls/2...s/fb/2015/lc2.pdf?DB_OEM_ID=25100


Thanks for the link Tribe - ironic that we have to visit the W&M football website to find the LC Leopard depth chart.


Exactly my point. This girl is trying hard but the info from the SID is weak.reading the college website you would never know we have a game this week.
flyfisher

In regard to our recruiting class, we have 8 on the two deep. Plus the kicker makes 9. Not too shabby for a group that a few did not appreciate.
Tribe4SF

Pregame press conference videos from W&M.

http://www.tribeathletics.com/Vie...LID=210308997&DB_OEM_ID=25100
Tribe4SF

Media coverage pre-game.

http://www.dailypress.com/sports/...wm-setup-0902-20150901-story.html

http://www.vagazette.com/sports/v...246767.story?page=1&track=rss

http://www.richmond.com/sports/ar...-6d86-551a-b545-52d1ccf67fc1.html
flyfisher

Thanks Tribe for the coverage.
flyfisher

Some of you may want to read the Richmond article above on W&M. Their coach mentions they scrimmage much less in preseason practice due to fear of injuries.
Pardsfriend

W & M game plan

IMO, Mike is right on the nose (no pun intended) with his strategy....

http://m.goleopards.com/m/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/090115aaa.html
Tribe4SF

More pre-game media.

http://wavy.com/2015/09/02/with-a...-starting-wm-gets-ready-for-2015/
flyfisher

Don't we have a game this week?
ELB

flyfisher wrote:
Don't we have a game this week?
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yesrep

keys to victory. need fast opening run plays less delay runs, have to stay out of 3rd and long. let the young guys drive block. defense has to win turnover war by +2.  specials have to be solid. game will be won by 4 one way or the other
SIDELINER

Here is the local coverage from the media lunch earlier in the week.

http://www.mcall.com/sports/colle...-mary-advance-20150901-story.html

http://www.lehighvalleylive.com/l...dshirting_helps_caa_sets_the.html
Andy

"Chris Brockman, who is on the injured list and whose return this season is in question"  Exasperated sigh emoticon....

And "Andrew Chuma replacing Brockman at strike" is incorrect, I believe, Chuma for Dellovade. What happened to Dellovade?  #@!!*%#
Franks Tanks

Andy wrote:
"Chris Brockman, who is on the injured list and whose return this season is in question"  Exasperated sigh emoticon....

And "Andrew Chuma replacing Brockman at strike" is incorrect, I believe, Chuma for Dellovade. What happened to Dellovade?  #@!!*%#


Good grief hate to see Brockman miss significant time.  

No idea on Dellovade, but I think our use of the FB will be rather limited.
Andy

Franks Tanks wrote:
Andy wrote:
"Chris Brockman, who is on the injured list and whose return this season is in question"  Exasperated sigh emoticon....

And "Andrew Chuma replacing Brockman at strike" is incorrect, I believe, Chuma for Dellovade. What happened to Dellovade?  #@!!*%#


Good grief hate to see Brockman miss significant time.  

No idea on Dellovade, but I think our use of the FB will be rather limited.


Believe I've read that Chuma was a HS FB, but Dellovade has been a real good one for us and a productive receiver out of the backfield on occasion. I'm annoyed already and we haven't even started yet....a few suspensions and we'll be all set... Rolling Eyes
carney2

Yes, Andy, poised for the first round of suspensions.

Much chest thumping over freshmen in important roles.  How many got there out of sheer desperation?  Just askin'.
RichH

Great to relish great recruit classes. And for most PL teams essential that they are that good. I look forward to the day that our recruits cant make the 2 deeps in mass numbers because the upperclassmen are better.Glad we got'em sad we have to use them so soon.
Andy

RichH wrote:
Great to relish great recruit classes. And for most PL teams essential that they are that good. I look forward to the day that our recruits cant make the 2 deeps in mass numbers because the upperclassmen are better.Glad we got'em sad we have to use them so soon.


Right on, Rich.  

About to juggle between 2 PL member games tonight. Glad I'm not driving to CT on a Labor Day Friday.  Very Happy
RichH

Chuck is. Brave or crazy not quite sure Smile. We're set up for NEC feed and Army. W made some snacks for us then went out to dinner and a movie with some of the other wives.
Andy

Chase Edmunds - incredible game. What a talent. QB ain't bad either.
RichH

Watching. Rams dont look devastated by graduation losses. Now they have to run clock and get the W.
flyfisher

Carney, you are one of a kind. You find something negative in everything. Sad way to go through life. I wonder if you have ever built a business where you had to develop people to prosper.

We have a mountain of injuries.  Personally I am grateful we have a recruiting class that could step up. As to Rich comment, the we hole patriot league has a long way to go before freshman don't make the 2 deep. No PL team has that depth. Plus, if you recruit worth a damn you hope some freshmen play or the coaches have not done their job.
RichH

fly,
My comment was merely to the large numbers of recruits on 2 deeps this yr. Agree,you want to get at least a couple every yr that can earn 2deep. Smile But,really dont want to see a repeat of this year when necessity is driving the bus. I look forward that we all will have 4 schollie classes for a couple of years.
carney2

flyfisher wrote:
Carney, you are one of a kind. You find something negative in everything.


Decades and decades of losing will do that to you.  Quoting Howard Beale:

"I'M AS MAD AS HELL, AND I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE THIS ANYMORE!"
SIDELINER

Franks Tanks wrote:
Andy wrote:
"Chris Brockman, who is on the injured list and whose return this season is in question"  Exasperated sigh emoticon....

And "Andrew Chuma replacing Brockman at strike" is incorrect, I believe, Chuma for Dellovade. What happened to Dellovade?  #@!!*%#


Good grief hate to see Brockman miss significant time.  

No idea on Dellovade, but I think our use of the FB will be rather limited.


Dellovade, I believe, has mono, as does freshman WR Chenoweth. That means both should return, just wondering when.
Andy

SIDELINER wrote:
Franks Tanks wrote:
Andy wrote:
"Chris Brockman, who is on the injured list and whose return this season is in question"  Exasperated sigh emoticon....

And "Andrew Chuma replacing Brockman at strike" is incorrect, I believe, Chuma for Dellovade. What happened to Dellovade?  #@!!*%#


Good grief hate to see Brockman miss significant time.  

No idea on Dellovade, but I think our use of the FB will be rather limited.


Dellovade, I believe, has mono, as does freshman WR Chenoweth. That means both should return, just wondering when.


Frustrating for fans, so disappointing for the kids who've put in so much work this summer. Get well.  Meanwhile some who have been patient will get a chance and young guys will be thrown in the fire early.  Have some fun, play  some football. We'll be heading down in a few hours.

Was Fordham down even one starter to injury?  Lucky I guess. Noticed another one that got away, Nico Thorpe starting at ILB for Rams as a soph.
flyfisher

Then injuries are both frustrating and confusing. We hit less in practice and still sustained the injuries. It reaches a point that you have to ask if we are doing something wrong. Several were early in camp. Vickers and Wright were early in camp and not condition related. Zetaveski injury was in a simple 1 on 1 drill. The injury to Brockman really disappoints me. The kid had a great year last year and this spring and summer he worked out like a madman and was in primo condition. Now it's his 5th year and he is out for a period of time. I hate it for him. And now we have kids with mono. Overall we hope to get these kids back by the conference schedule.
flyfisher

carney2 wrote:
flyfisher wrote:
Carney, you are one of a kind. You find something negative in everything.


Decades and decades of losing will do that to you.  Quoting Howard Beale:

"I'M AS MAD AS HELL, AND I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE THIS ANYMORE!"


Well, one thing I know for sure is complaining about it here doesn't help. The kids can't help the injuries. You want complain that we have not recruited enough O linemen? Fine. I will accept that. But you can't blame anyone for the injuries. FT had less hitting in camp and we still have a lot of starters out.
Andy

Is the jury still out on turf vs natural grass?  These aren't game injuries, more wear and tear stuff?

Sorry to keep going back to FU's excellent performance last night, they had 1 OL over 300 lbs. they look for length and mobility, it seems.  Their DL on the other hand is much larger - height and weight - and mobile.  I realize FU has several recruiting advantages and Moorhead has used them well. Really well coached, too, great execution.
ELB

Need a couple of turnovers today to even the playing field.  Leopard special team play could push the odds in our favor.
carney2

flyfisher wrote:
carney2 wrote:
flyfisher wrote:
Carney, you are one of a kind. You find something negative in everything.


Decades and decades of losing will do that to you.  Quoting Howard Beale:

"I'M AS MAD AS HELL, AND I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE THIS ANYMORE!"


Well, one thing I know for sure is complaining about it here doesn't help.


But no one else does it.  The rest just seem to be numb and accept that mediocrity is all the school is capable of.  Pointing to the words at the bottom of my posts, they eat garbage and have deluded themselves into believing that they're feasting.  

As for the injuries, same old mantra.  In the winter it's "great [recruiting] class."  In the fall it's "oh, the injuries" mixed with an occasional "more suspensions."  In the end it's just more crap masquerading as a D-1 football program.  Last fall I determined that I couldn't just keep quiet anymore.  The kids deserve better.  The College deserves better.  We deserve better.  And, we are capable of better.  Much better.  Enough is enough.  Just stop shoveling s#!t at us and calling it competitive football.

Frank is a great guy and a class act.  He is a fine representative of the College and wins, but "not too much."  The powers that be love him.  He is exactly what they want.  Personally, I question his true abilities as a football coach.  For example - and only one example - a good coach would have taken serious action to solve the ongoing OL problems long before this, rather than having it drag on into year 6 ... and counting.
Andy

ELB wrote:
Need a couple of turnovers today to even the playing field.  Leopard special team play could push the odds in our favor.


Return team and field position could be huge. Limiting their running game is task one and it's a very big challenge. Then maybe a pick or two. We shall see E-L-B.
Newleopardfan2

All right, let's do this thing! I've been waiting for this since the subway ride home from Yankee Stadium!
RichH

Good luck tonite Pards. Give'em hell.
bethlehempard

Temple 17-10 over Penn State at the start of the fourth quarter.
Wins by the Owls and Leopards would make this the greatest non-Lehigh day in NCAAF history. PSU's offense is terrible, that's been exposed.  
Greatest day at least in one house.
Go Owls! Go Pards! And thanks Rich!
edge29

Andy wrote:
SIDELINER wrote:
Franks Tanks wrote:
Andy wrote:
"Chris Brockman, who is on the injured list and whose return this season is in question"  Exasperated sigh emoticon....

And "Andrew Chuma replacing Brockman at strike" is incorrect, I believe, Chuma for Dellovade. What happened to Dellovade?  #@!!*%#


Good grief hate to see Brockman miss significant time.  

No idea on Dellovade, but I think our use of the FB will be rather limited.


Dellovade, I believe, has mono, as does freshman WR Chenoweth. That means both should return, just wondering when.


Frustrating for fans, so disappointing for the kids who've put in so much work this summer. Get well.  Meanwhile some who have been patient will get a chance and young guys will be thrown in the fire early.  Have some fun, play  some football. We'll be heading down in a few hours.

Was Fordham down even one starter to injury?  Lucky I guess. Noticed another one that got away, Nico Thorpe starting at ILB for Rams as a soph.


Sad
Andy

Broadcast mention why no Reed?
Franks Tanks

Word is that Reed had been suspended.  No idea for how long.  

Brown looks good in the early going.  Still trouble with the pre snap penalties.
Andy

Thanks FT. Looking good÷ Ooops....
edge29

James starting over Parham?
Franks Tanks

James usually plays safety.  Must have moved over to CB due to absence of Parnham.

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