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LeopardAlum

When will the maddness end?

As an alum of this football team it is baffling on what is taking place here. The Loose's and Heffner's and Hachman's would never stand to tolerate this mess.  Once we were proud of this team and now every time i check a score or try and watch the game I cant help but feel embarrassed.  You can't blame the president or the ad.  At what point do the coaches and players, mostly the coaches become accountable.  In 2004-2009 there was pride in what was happening.  That came without scholarships.  Because it came with accountability.  Tavani is a figurehead who doesn't even coach or call a play.  Everyone ran the Farrigelli's out of here because his style offense was bad. But he leaves and wins a national championship. Guess what.  Those coaches who skipped town on Tavani could recruit. They took chances on the Maurers and Romans' and Hurts. These coaches from top to bottom cant recruit, cant coach and cant produce.  Time for a change!

Also, must be nice cor these kids to have full schollies now to attend there and win and produce nothing.  They play in a palace, play CAA teams, and played at Yankee Stadium.  But when we had horses that drove pride into App St, Umass, Del, and Liberty, non of this was possible.  Wheres the heart and accountability.  

I for one am pissed that im sitting in debt up my ass, and with torn apart knees, and these kids are sitting in a country club.     I am proud of what I accomplished there and the teams that i played on.  What can we now say theres pride in??? Being mediocre, winning the league at 5-5 to say that we made the playoffs, only to get crushed in the first round?????   Its a joke.  Why cant tavani and co. try and be more that mediocre and have some damn pride.    This team is a freakin mess and it has to change...

Except it won't.
Lafalum

If I said it once I'll say it again attitude starts at the top. If the school (aka the Bot and Administration) care at all they can signal changes by making changes. I for one am tired of writing checks and seeing obstruction after obstruction and  lie after lie. We could see a reverse 150 effect in giving if something isn't done and it must start at the top now!! Does anyone who matters in the administration  care??
flyfisher

Re: When will the maddness end?

LeopardAlum wrote:
As an alum of this football team it is baffling on what is taking place here. The Loose's and Heffner's and Hachman's would never stand to tolerate this mess.  Once we were proud of this team and now every time i check a score or try and watch the game I cant help but feel embarrassed.  You can't blame the president or the ad.  At what point do the coaches and players, mostly the coaches become accountable.  In 2004-2009 there was pride in what was happening.  That came without scholarships.  Because it came with accountability.  Tavani is a figurehead who doesn't even coach or call a play.  Everyone ran the Farrigelli's out of here because his style offense was bad. But he leaves and wins a national championship. Guess what.  Those coaches who skipped town on Tavani could recruit. They took chances on the Maurers and Romans' and Hurts. These coaches from top to bottom cant recruit, cant coach and cant produce.  Time for a change!

Also, must be nice cor these kids to have full schollies now to attend there and win and produce nothing.  They play in a palace, play CAA teams, and played at Yankee Stadium.  But when we had horses that drove pride into App St, Umass, Del, and Liberty, non of this was possible.  Wheres the heart and accountability.  

I for one am pissed that im sitting in debt up my ass, and with torn apart knees, and these kids are sitting in a country club.     I am proud of what I accomplished there and the teams that i played on.  What can we now say theres pride in??? Being mediocre, winning the league at 5-5 to say that we made the playoffs, only to get crushed in the first round?????   Its a joke.  Why cant tavani and co. try and be more that mediocre and have some damn pride.    This team is a freakin mess and it has to change...

Except it won't.


Feel better? Sorry you are embarrassed. Try being one of the players.

Yes, the program has direction issues but when you have the injuries we have I don't know what you can expect. We put freshmen fullback at DT and a 3rd string DT starts now at guard on offense. It goes on and on. Freshmen are not going to compete in most situations with upper classmen.

Short term term, the team will be much better next year. Long term, there are bigger issues.
SixtyEighter

We who are powerless but care can only hope that the worst record in school history will wake up someone at the school who can do something about it.My freshman year we were 1-6 or 1-7 going into the Lehigh game and lost to them and they were 0-6 or 0-7 going into the game.The situation now is worse because some of the games in 1964 were competitive.Dave Brown and other star players  were on that team- where are today's equivalent players ?We have been " in " only two games this year.Yesterday there were 2 fumbles lost, 2 interceptions , and 7 punts.That is not all attributable to the inexperienced line. Who is responsible for the Holy Cross receivers running free all afternoon many times with no defender even in the screen.Sorry but that was one of the most pathetic displays of defense I have ever seen.I think coach Link is not the defensive coach we thought he would be.Even Mike Joseph seemed flummoxed by what he was seeing.He will probably get more grief for his truthfulness even though I thought he still glossed over a lot of bad play.No sooner did he say what he thought the situation called for then just the opposite unfolded on the field to Lafayette's detriment.
Jpao92

Try being one of the players?   As I read his post, he was one of the players.  The team will be much better next year?!?  If they finished 4-7, that would technically be much better than this team.   If they finished 5-6 that would be much better than this team.  It would also be another losing season.  But hey, it would give some of us yet another year to roll out the excuses.   All is well, nothing to see here.  

Meanwhile, over at Lehigh the word is that if Cohen doesn't beat us this year he is out on his arse.   He has a rash of injuries as well.    What he doesn't have is a tenured faculty position/job for life.  Damn, they sure are weird over at Lehigh with the way they do things.   Win or you are out?  Crazy.  

When does Frank get his bronze statue over by the Varsity House.?  Isn't that next?   I mean endless contract extensions just aren't enough if you ask me.
Jpao92

Putting Frank aside for a moment, what is the over under on when the BOT will commence another "Study" to try and take us DIII?   I am convinced that the apathy we are seeing from those in charge is anything but.  It is intentional sabotage.  They want to run the program down so that they can use the poor performance as justification to downgrade it.
Pard4Life

We are not going to D3.

Fly, I admire you for defending this mess in the face of it all.  But next season?  The players have to learn how to win first.  You don't go from 1-10 to 7-4.

And as for freshmen and sophs stepping into upperclassmen roles... that was essentially all of Frank's 2000, 2001, 2002 teams... and they put up points and battled every game except those where they were truly outmatched (Penn, Harvard).  Wins did not come in 2000 and 2001, but they were challenging games for opponents.  

Holy Cross was not a flashy or power team like Fordham or Harvard.  They are just like us (minus the long injury list).  

Injuries are no excuse for what happened in the secondary yesterday.  We were playing decent through 22-23 minutes.  It looked like a turning point game.  But no... mental mistakes were made.  The OL even made huge holes and got the running game going yesterday.  We just rolled over and died.  I think Fordham's coach said that too.  Moorehead knew we had Fordham where we wanted them.  Something stinks...
BillS

Pard4Life wrote:
We are not going to D3.

Fly, I admire you for defending this mess in the face of it all.  But next season?  The players have to learn how to win first.  You don't go from 1-10 to 7-4.

And as for freshmen and sophs stepping into upperclassmen roles... that was essentially all of Frank's 2000, 2001, 2002 teams... and they put up points and battled every game except those where they were truly outmatched (Penn, Harvard).  Wins did not come in 2000 and 2001, but they were challenging games for opponents.  

Holy Cross was not a flashy or power team like Fordham or Harvard.  They are just like us (minus the long injury list).  

Injuries are no excuse for what happened in the secondary yesterday.  We were playing decent through 22-23 minutes.  It looked like a turning point game.  But no... mental mistakes were made.  The OL even made huge holes and got the running game going yesterday.  We just rolled over and died.  I think Fordham's coach said that too.  Moorehead knew we had Fordham where we wanted them.  Something stinks...
Rumors are flying that this might be Frank's last year?
flyfisher

Are, not so much defending it, it just is what it is. Everyone is puzzled. I talked with several players yesterday on both sides of the ball. No one had an explanation. One senior leader did say that on every play someone doesn't do their job. Constant breakdowns. He came off after a special teams play, a punt, and screaming that we couldn't even do that right.

Obviously we will be better next year, it's would be hard to be worse than we are right now. But we do have some talent buts it's either young, hurt, or inexperienced. As to finding a way to wn, how do you suggest we do that? They are trying but nothing is working, nothing. They need experience. They need strength and maturity. They need better technique which comes from coaching and time. It's not going to happen quickly and not this year. Our number one priority right now is to sign a good recruiting class.

The program has short term and long term issues tp address. Short term it is about player development and getting people healthy. Who does that and how it is done I will leave that discussion up to you guys.

Long term issues have to do with a commitment from the BOT filtered down to Byerly and then Bruce. While we are all angry, I can't seriously believe the BOT actually wants us to fail. That said, I have said for years scholarships is just the beginning of the commitment to athletics. In fact, you could make a case in football that we may be worse off. While we can recruit different kids than before, we can't recruit as many. Rosters will be smaller. We can't offer financial aid any longer as it is now counting against the scholarships.

While we rightfully complain about how the 150 money was used, how there have been no budget increases since 2007, coaches pay, etc, let me give you a small example.

The night before games (Friday nights) and Saturdays on home games our players should be together, off campus, with no distractions. Our guys are free to go back to their dorm, out to dinner with parents, or do whatever until a 1030 curfew. They should be together, eating together, studying film with position coaches, continued game prep. But just be together. Instead we give out box pizzas for a meal and tell them to be in their room by 1030. Maybe others in the PL do that but I can assure you no one in the CAA and Socon do that.

Some of you will scoff at that but its part of building a team and preparing for a game, getting focused and mentally ready to play. A few times I drop off some stuff to my son as we come in on Friday night. He shouldn't see his parents before the game. Unfortunately when he should be either studying or studying film and doing game prep, he has roommates who are not on the team with bottles of liqueur all over the room and girls hanging out. It's curfew for the players but not for kids who don't play. Kids attending social functions the day of the game. I am thinking, "what the frigg"? The team needs to be together. But we don't have it in the budget to provide more than a pizza, much less spring to get the kids off site in a hotel. how hard would it be to at least have a team meal in an existing college facility?

Again, some of you with scoff at this but it's just an example of the small things you do to properly prepare. Most PL teams don't do this. But most FCS teams do. The point is, scholarships is just the beginning of the investment
flyfisher

Bill, we have all heard that but I don't think this is the way Frank wants to go out.
LeopardAlum

Winning at the Division One level is NOT easy. It takes constant effort on ALL sides of the ball. EVERY SINGLE SNAP. We can talk talent, we can talk scheme and we can talk coaches all day. BUT - the EFFORT is not there which is a problem in the CULTURE OF THE PROGRAM.
People have forgotten the teams we once had with the number one defense in the country, and Patriot League Titles, and consistent winning seasons. Why did we achieve the success that we did? One word - EFFORT. The Culture of the program did not accept anything other than relentless 100% effort on every single snap.
Who demanded that effort? The COACHING STAFF. Frank Tavani once headed the most impressive coaching staff int he entire country. Yes folks, in the entire country.  Over the years, those phenomenal coaches have all moved on and continued to be successful coaches at all different levels all over the country. All of them had to leave because coaching under Frank Tavani is not something that a self respecting coach wants to do.
Lafayette NEVER won because we had more TALENT ... Lafayette won because we had a coaching staff that demanded more EFFORT.


That being said if Coach T. cares about this program half as much as us folks writing on this forum do he will realize that he needs to step down. His legacy will live on for a long time. Coach T. saved Lafayette Football from extinction, he reunited the program with some incredible alumni donors, he recruited the best staff in the country and his staff went out and recruited kids that were tough enough to win at this level.  and God Bless Frank Tavani for his years. however, it is TIME TO GO.

EYES TO THE FUTURE ------ One man from the area who stays close to this program deserves to be the Head Coach. This man is John Loose.


John Loose is one of the best coaches in all of college football. That is a reputation that follows him everywhere he goes. Look at Lauren's First and Goal , look what he built! .... are you telling me you would not want that man running your program.

I know that Coach Loose wants the job. I know that Coach Loose is the best man for the job. He needs our support to push for him to be considered for this job.


John Loose for Head Coach of Lafayette Football.


Lets Go Pards.
LeopardAlum

There was recently a ceremony held for the 2005 Patriot League Championship team, I believe at the Princeton game. (another BAD loss). I believe 6 or 7 members of that championship team attended.

To me, that speaks an enormous amount to the state of this program RIGHT NOW. What is a program without the alumni and the former players who played and graduated? There is no support in either direction from the players to the program and to the players from the program. It is not right, and there are many, many alumni who are to put it bluntly, pissed off.

Blake Costanzo was an all pro- Speacial teams ace in the NFL for almost a decade. When was that ever shown by the program? Why was he not used and promoted and seen at games etc......?

I will tell you why. Because his success was not about the head guy. If his success would have been tied into the head guy, he would have been marketed by the program and used to the level he always should have been. an ALL PRO in the NFL is a TOOL to recruit, why was he NOT USED???


THATS ONE EXAMPLE OF ONE THOUSAND. what is going on is TYRANNY. and many great young men who built this program have stepped away from it and we are all left to sit and watch the ship sink, and the captain sure as hell is going down with it.
BPard

Quote:
One senior leader did say that on every play someone doesn't do their job. Constant breakdowns. He came off after a special teams play, a punt, and screaming that we couldn't even do that right.

Say what you want about Trustees, President, or AD but this problem is not on them. It is on student athletes and coaching staff. I would say on the players first but there have been no show games for years. Which means creating a culture of accepting breakdowns is probably on the coaches.
NewXbo

[quote="flyfisher:51212"] As to finding a way to wn, how do you suggest we do that? They are trying but nothing is working, nothing. They need experience. They need strength and maturity. They need better technique which comes from coaching and time.

Find it interesting you don't mention leadership.
Andy

LA - Admire your passion but you make some ridiculous statements which lessens your credibility. "The greatest staff in the country" didn't "skip town on Tavani," they left to better their careers. It's an obvious fact of life at our level.

The co-championship teams in the mid-2000s were beating Columbia and Marist. The championship  5-1 2013 team would've been over 500, too, playing them.

I'll say again, IMO, the "over 500" thing is obviously relative to whom you play. Next year's team wil be trying to build confidence while playing one of the toughest OOC schedules out there.

Wouldn't Smalley, Mercado, Brockman, Wright be a nice start to a PL all-star defense?
flyfisher

[quote="NewXbo:51218"]
flyfisher wrote:
As to finding a way to wn, how do you suggest we do that? They are trying but nothing is working, nothing. They need experience. They need strength and maturity. They need better technique which comes from coaching and time.

Find it interesting you don't mention leadership.


Just left it out. You are correct. Next year starts 4 weeks from today. It doesn't start in summer camp. Hopefully some step forward and take this role? I know a lot of kids are fed up.
flyfisher

BPard wrote:
Quote:
One senior leader did say that on every play someone doesn't do their job. Constant breakdowns. He came off after a special teams play, a punt, and screaming that we couldn't even do that right.

Say what you want about Trustees, President, or AD but this problem is not on them. It is on student athletes and coaching staff. I would say on the players first but there have been no show games for years. Which means creating a culture of accepting breakdowns is probably on the coaches.


Mostly correct. However in this case the senior player was angry with 2 freshmen mistakes. Without the injuries those freshmen would not have been out there. The kids just didn't know their job. Part coaching, part playing a kid not ready but you have no choice, and part a kid not knowing his job.

Which goes back to my original point about short term and long term issues. This would be an example of short term.
Pardsfriend

Going forward

Having coached at a lower level for several years, and watching LC games for the last five years, I'm mostly in agreement with Lep Alum.  He's very familiar with the program landscape.  I've visited the LC practice field as well.  

 I have deep respect for the staff, but it's clear that the existing problems are beyond roster size, pre-game meals, and administration.  Incorporating culture change is vitally important to both the short and long term foundation of the program.

 Roster size doesn't necessarily impact a much more important ingredient, the quality of your practices.   Injuries are expected at every program, and in my experience, are the product of your overall physical conditioning.  Players change positions and adapt.  That's part of why you are a D1 football player.

 And without question, game and time management are connected directly to your staff.  Players are scripted and coaches expect blind obedience to their instructions in all three phases of the game, offense, defense, and special teams.

  I'm continuing to support the team and hope for the best.
LeopardAlum

Shocked
LeopardAlum

Andy - more than my passion you should admire my direct ties with the program as well as the staff that did leave College Hill. Out of respect to these guys and their privacy I will not go into detail. However, coaches left as to remove themselves from the environment that had developed within the building among the coaching staff. Whether you chose to accept that or not is completely up to you. Of course, other factors played in i.e. the chance to advance their career of course. But, a large factor was removing themselves from that staff.

There is a major problem for people inside the program and working under Tavani and his ego. THIS IS FACT. THIS HAS BEEN FACT. THIS WILL REMAIN FACT. ( as long as FT is at the helm)


Faragelli - Left and won NATL. Championship

Hachmann- Left and played in NATL. Championship. took a Towson team from a laughing stock to a contender in the "SEC of 1aa" the CAA.

Heffner - Positional coach at Northwestern - Top 25 team in 1a. Hefner plays a large role in their recruiting and clearly is having the same success he did at Lafayette. Finding kids under the radar who have academics as well as the ability to perform on Saturdays.

Loose - Positional coach at Army. Army is improving and will continue to do so. Coach Loose is respected around the country as a leader in innovative Defenses designed to stop the option game. (majority of the running attacks seen in our league and our opponents) - not triple option always but read option etc .... Coach Loose is one of the best coaches in the country - young men thrive under his leadership and coaching. young men WANT to play for him. his Resume speaks for itself but what is more impressive is his reputation among other coaches at all levels.

Holcomb ( remember him? ) - used his experience at Lafayette to head to the NFL. Linebacker coach for the Carolina Panthers. Coaches possibly the best LB core in pro football.  


----- now those are just the main guys on those staffs - the list could be added to. Yes I would say that was as good a coaching staff as anywhere else in the country at the FCS level.

Under that staff Lafayette had an IDENTITY. That Identity was to play LIGHTS OUT defense and control the clock and field position and every game be in it at the end with a chance to win.

The past six years, what is Lafayette's IDENTITY? what are these teams known for ?

Please. Andy, since I dont have credibility i clearly dont know the answer to this.

Lets be serious.
LeopardAlum

Re: Going forward

  I'm continuing to support the team and hope for the best.[/quote]


PardsFriend --Well said I would hope that is why we are all here. I would hope that is why we all speak up.

So many people with their feet on the ground, the people who are attached to this program for life through blood sweat and tears are demanding a change.  the program must come first.

To have the ability to hire a coach like John Loose, it would put us at such an advantage over the rest of the conference in this period of adjustment with scholarships and the ever evolving status of division 1 football. Fordham has a great head start, but our facilities as well as our rich tradition and history of REAL college football should give us the advantage.

We play in a beautiful stadium in PA. They play on a high school field with one sided bleachers in the BX.

Where would you rather play? That is without mentioning our nation-leading academics.


IF FT resigns. we get better THAT day.  If we hire John Loose - we got a shot.
Pard4Life

If Frank is so tyrannical, how did he get these talented assistants to work for him?  And, why did they stay for 5-7 years?
pgmillspunk

the U

Well the U had enuff of al golden, dun.
flyfisher

[quote="LeopardAlum:51225"]Andy - more than my passion you should admire my direct ties with the program as well as the staff that did leave College Hill. Out of respect to these guys and their privacy I will not go into detail. However, coaches left as to remove themselves from the environment that had developed within the building among the coaching staff. Whether you chose to accept that or not is completely up to you. Of course, other factors played in i.e. the chance to advance their career of course. But, a large factor was removing themselves from that staff.

There is a major problem for people inside the program and working under Tavani and his ego. THIS IS FACT. THIS HAS BEEN FACT. THIS WILL REMAIN FACT. ( as long as FT is at the helm)


Faragelli - Left and won NATL. Championship

Hachmann- Left and played in NATL. Championship. took a Towson team from a laughing stock to a contender in the "SEC of 1aa" the CAA.

Heffner - Positional coach at Northwestern - Top 25 team in 1a. Hefner plays a large role in their recruiting and clearly is having the same success he did at Lafayette. Finding kids under the radar who have academics as well as the ability to perform on Saturdays.

Loose - Positional coach at Army. Army is improving and will continue to do so. Coach Loose is respected around the country as a leader in innovative Defenses designed to stop the option game. (majority of the running attacks seen in our league and our opponents) - not triple option always but read option etc .... Coach Loose is one of the best coaches in the country - young men thrive under his leadership and coaching. young men WANT to play for him. his Resume speaks for itself but what is more impressive is his reputation among other coaches at all levels.

Holcomb ( remember him? ) - used his experience at Lafayette to head to the NFL. Linebacker coach for the Carolina Panthers. Coaches possibly the best LB core in pro football.  

LA, you make some good points, most of which I should not comment on. But you probably have or are close to the program. In the case of all the former assistant coaches you mention, based on the success they have had I doubt they would have stuck around Lafayette no matter who was the head coach.

Back to my original point, short term issues and longer term. Immediate culture improvements as well as long term culture issues.  My point to what you term "pre game meal", (that wasn't my point) is there are things we can do to improve the environment.
NE Leopard

Winning takes a priority at Miami

http://www.miamiherald.com/sports...ity-of-miami/article41403627.html

Could we get Golden or Edsall to Easton, they probably don't need the money, just the challenge.  Question
SIDELINER

Here is The Morning Call's Groundhog Day followup.

http://www.mcall.com/sports/colle...e-follow-1025-20151025-story.html

I still have seen no story on the game or followup of it on the E-T website.
adcs2

As far as the lack of info on the Lafayette game from the E-T, staff cuts and editorial decisions have made covering the local colleges less of a priority. Guys like Hinkel and Wilson will fight to do more but don't expect much more than most home games and an occasional road contest. Less if the teams are performing poorly.

Of course, they will jump on the bandwagon again for big events (150th, NCAA appearances, etc.). Don't expect any coverage outside of MBB and football, however.

They actually prioritize Moravian as heavily as the two Patriot League schools due to the number of local high school athletes on the Greyhound rosters.
Lafalum

So true, there is not that much interest in Lafayette sports. We have never cultivated that to any extent and took much of it for granted. However, no one wants to root for a loser! Even if they are local.
adcs2

There was a time when the Leopards (especially hoops) had a strong local following.  I would say the peak of this was the 70s when the Pards had incredible coaching Tom Davis (w/Gary Williams) followed by Roy Chipman to go with some very competitive teams.

Factor in the opening of Kirby in the early 70s and going to dinner at Youell's, Colonial or Wesley's followed by a Lafayette game was a weekly event for many of the locals.

But we have come a long way from those days and the times when Ed Laubach traveled with the teams and documented their every move.
Lafalum

adcs2 wrote:
There was a time when the Leopards (especially hoops) had a strong local following.  I would say the peak of this was the 70s when the Pards had incredible coaching Tom Davis (w/Gary Williams) followed by Roy Chipman to go with some very competitive teams.

Factor in the opening of Kirby in the early 70s and going to dinner at Youell's, Colonial or Wesley's followed by a Lafayette game was a weekly event for many of the locals.

But we have come a long way from those days and the times when Ed Laubach traveled with the teams and documented their every move.


Even the school newspaper gives very little support treating club sports equally. I find the sports page pitiful.
BPard

Lafalum wrote:
Even the school newspaper gives very little support treating club sports equally. I find the sports page pitiful.

It is published weekly with "newspaper night" on Wednesday to go to print.

Hard for the print edition to remain timely and relevant to athletics coverage with that schedule.

IMO, students should look at putting online articles up the day of/after most sporting events (games, matches, tournaments, etc.) and use the print edition for deeper dives (like the ones currently featured on the donation to rehab the pool, dearth of scoring in soccer, and football injuries). If you really wanted to, you could reprint the same articles you show online.

I don't see any articles on the mobile front page for the newspaper that covers a varsity athletic event. Closest is the 10/23 weekly "recap" which doesn't include any weekend matches.
BillS

adcs2 wrote:
There was a time when the Leopards (especially hoops) had a strong local following.  I would say the peak of this was the 70s when the Pards had incredible coaching Tom Davis (w/Gary Williams) followed by Roy Chipman to go with some very competitive teams.

Factor in the opening of Kirby in the early 70s and going to dinner at Youell's, Colonial or Wesley's followed by a Lafayette game was a weekly event for many of the locals.

But we have come a long way from those days and the times when Ed Laubach traveled with the teams and documented their every move.
I really miss Youell's Oyster House and Uncle Wesley's Ugh...The Young Republican Club was a favorite stop also.
LeopardBall10

Sitting here in my office, catching up on everything that I had missed while being out of town for a few days. I am honestly sick to my stomach. really hard to read, can't imagine what those of you who watched the game or dealt with the aftermath directly (i.e. parents, etc.) feel like.

Anyway, just a few points:

Recruiting - Several people are saying that a "good" class needs to be the top priority. How do you recruit any kind of top level talent with the current on-field product? As a recruit you see the current/recent records and will turn to almost every other option for fear of coach turnover, bad culture, or whatever is causing the losing.

Past staff - A lot of great coaches, some who have gone on to prove how all-world they were by winning rings at other places. Most did leave to better careers, and I won't speak to their personal relationships with Frank. But I will speak to the current reputation of the college in the industry, and it is not good. No one with options will choose to come and work for Frank. And if they are considering it, other coaches will reach out and tell them it is not a good idea. As a side note, I don't think a single one of these coaches would come back for the HC position. They all know the institutional struggles and would avoid them like the plague.

Past Players - LA is correct that there are a lot of successful alums who are not used in recruiting or program development. Blake had a great carreer in the NFL, but people also forget about Mo Bennett with his NFL tryout and his current VP position on Wall St.(he may be on the broadcast team but he never speaks to the team, never hangs around to mentor or participate in the team), Marvin Clecedor as the DBs coach for W&M, Andy Romans as the PL defensive player of the decade, and some of the other doctors and lawyers who took the field under a flying L banner. Unfortunately, Frank has held some very unfortunate grudges and players had to choose sides. Some of these players have  vocalized their intent to stay as far away from Frank and the current iteration of the program as possible. It will take some serious campaigning from the next regime to bring some of those younger alums back.

Pregame meals/training table/nights before games/etc. - I agree with Fly on this one. I have always had a problem with it, especially because of the way things were handled for Leigh home games. But this just a telling situation that is a kind of microcosm of the program as a whole. Do other programs do it differently? Yes! Why? Because it allows their players to get meals that specially fit their needs, it allows them to eat later than the Caf is usually open after practice, it allows for bonding and team development, and the list goes on. Why don't we do it that way? Because it costs money, a lot of money, and the budget hasn't increased in a decade. As many problems as I have with Frank, did you know that he either gets Friends of Football to pay for 1 coach's meal a week or he pays for it himself? But the program cannot afford to pay for meal plans for all of the coaches. The interns are usually only allowed 4 meals per week. But none of that will change without change at the very top.

So much more to say... but finding it hard to find the value in it. Although I really did like the list of AD Requests someone posted on another thread. All were very good ideas and would need adjusted to get any kind of serious candidate to consider the position (except for 150 accounting, its done and gone, can't change it).

Franks Tanks

A lot of truth on this thread.  I dispute some of the details, but many here understand the situation very deeply.

What Frank does, or doesn't do, has always been the case.  I wasn't always very happy with the way Frank ran the program, but he was winning, so he received the benefit of the doubt. It was non-traditional, but he was getting results, so all was fine.  Now that results have been sub-par, and sub-par for many years, it is only natural to look under the hood.  When what is under the hood is contrary to the way most successful programs are run, very tough questions must be asked.

If Frank and his staff are back next year, 2016 will look just like the bulk of the last 6 years.  

The situation at Lafayette isn't perfect, but when the head coaching job comes open there will be significant interest.  You have great facilities, 60 full rides, a solid fan base and a school that recruits find attractive.  I agree it probably isn't the best fit for a coach looking to rapidly move up the ladder, but a lot of excellent coaches are and would be perfectly happy being the head coach of an FCS school long term.
LeopardAlum

LB10 - Great post. You have a good grasp of the current situation that has grown around the program. From your post, it is clear that you are very close to the program, that you care and that you are aware of the realities.
I think many people allow themselves to be in denial because of the love of the program.
We all are on here (or at least most) because we LOVE this program and it is dear to our hearts.  That being said, it is actually scary what the program has become under the current HC.
Those who are or have been involved in the program know the extent of the major problems Lafayette football has. But inside or league, or subdivision, and even nationally our football program is mocked by other programs. The team itself, nor the players, nor most of the assistants are mocked, but The HC truly has no respect from his contemporaries.
I will use a brief example. If you watch the Lafayette press releases that come out on media day the week of games, Frank Tavani is known by all other programs within the conference to openly give away information that should NEVER, under any circumstance be spoken about to the media, or anyone outside of the program! And this happens week in, week out, and has gone of for years!! Tavani also has a notorious reputation for having no control over his program or his assistants. It is known at our level that if you coach at Lafayette you have ZERO supervision or input from your head coach. The assistant coaches run meetings for game prep and post game evaluations WITHOUT the presence of the head coach. He has no say in philosophy, game planning, directional coaching. It truly is embarrassing. Now, that is all just football related issues, and those are just small brief examples. We could continue on for a long time with more examples, and with other issues relating to the incompetence of the HC, outside of just football related issues. Alumni, financial, marketing, recruiting, management, hiring, etc ..... The program has been run straight into the ground. And it truly is a shame because Lafayette College offers student athletes an experience that NO OTHER school within the Patriot League can compete with it. I know that the other coaches around the league hopes that the admin. continues to give FT un-earned contract extensions. This program is a beautiful little gold mine that sits on top of college hill. Just waiting for the right man to lead the program in the correct direction.


This man is John Loose --- and I am quite sure John Loose would have interest in this job.

I can only pray that somewhere out there, someone else sees the opportunity this program has to truly be a contender --- nationally.
LeopardAlum

Lets take one other small singular example.


Lauren's First and Goal.

THE LARGEST ONE DAY FOOTBALL CAMP IN THE ENTIRE COUNTRY.


Thousands, yes THOUSANDS!!! of high school football players show up with the hope of catching the eye of college coaches -- each year for one day in June.


Where is this camp held? LAFAYETTE COLLEGE.

WOW, what an advantage that COULD be to the program. Campers could go on tours of the stadium, facilities, campus etc..... The marketing as well as recruiting that could be done from this camp is astronomical. The amount of future college football players that show up for this camp is mind blowing.  One would assume that the HC of Lafayette College would be ecstatic about this one day camp and do every single thing he can to use this in order to attract recruits, and also attention to the host program - Lafayette College.

However, the camp has very little push from the program and the student athletes who attend often do not even know that Lafayette is the college that is the host.
Why does the HC not take advantage of this recruiting opportunity??


Somebody inform the board.
Zeus

i stopped reading at john loose. everyone else should too.
BillS

Zeus wrote:
i stopped reading at john loose. everyone else should too.
But the rumors has Frank stepping down after the Lehigh game.
Kpard

BillS wrote:
Zeus wrote:
i stopped reading at john loose. everyone else should too.
But the rumors has Frank stepping down after the Lehigh game.


Considering his health, perhaps that is true. What is Coach Ts contract situation?
bethlehempard

FT was uncharacteristicly resigned and calm in the post-game interview. I got that feeling too, that he's done but who knows.
If Lafayette can somehow beat Lehigh, that could mean a double-switch for the two schools. I don't know if that's happened in the modern era. Whitehead remained coach during the Putnam-Russo transition. Kevin Higgins was coach when Russo handed off to Tavani.
Lehigh fans are adamant about Coen needing a win. Our woes would compound a Brown loss.
Both schools could be looking for new coaches.
CHIP72

Considering how bad Lafayette is this year and Lehigh's general mediocrity the last couple of years, I think there is a strong possibility both Lehigh Valley FCS/I-AA schools could be looking for new head football coaches if the Leopards upset the Mountain Hawks on Saturday 11/21.
LeopardAlum

Zeus ----

Please use your endless wisdom to provide myself, as well as the rest of the board, and the entire Lafayette Football community with a better candidate than John Loose.

Name one individual who is more qualified and has a better resume OR has more respect from other coaches around the country than John Loose.

You may forget the year in year out dominance that John Loose provided on the defensive side of the ball. That wasn't his "genius" it certainly wasn't the talent put out on the field. It was the culture John Loose created on the defensive side of the ball. In meetings, in practice, and on game days.

ZEUS, you obvious would know better though?!?!?

In 2007- Lafayette had the NUMBER ONE DEFENSE in the COUNTRY.

When was the last time Lafayette could say they were number one in the country in any other major stat, let alone a sport or anything for that matter.

But good thing you stopped reading, that is the ignorance that many around the program have that will keep us mediocre for the rest of time.
Franks Tanks

Not sure about number one, but we are dead last in the nation in rushing yards per game and red zone efficiency.  We only scored 9 TD's all year, which is among the worst in the nation as well.  A handful of teams scored 8, including Wagner, but all of those 8 TD teams have played only 7 games.  Howard is the worst at 5 TD's all year.  

To out that in perspective the HC quarterback had 6 td himself mid way through the 3rd last week.
LeopardAlum

One thing FT always in believed in which he deserves credit for achieving for quite some time was to be able to run the ball and to be able to stop the run.


Mickey Fein brought in an offense that basically had ONE successful year out of 7 and that was with Faragelli an Heffs players, in 2009.

anyway, it is hard to be successful in MF's "finesse" uptempo, "explosive" style offense when we do not have any playmakers or anyone with dangerous speed.


think about it, who does Lafayette have on this team that you can get the ball to in space, an he can make someone miss and make a play? That is what is scary to me. The inability for us to recruit anyone with any sort of threatening speed. We have alot of stiff kids who are obviously out matched athletically.

This coaching staff does not inspire these kids enough to rise above the lack of talent.  Overall, hard to watch.
Pard4Life

Hate to say it but Frank's not going anywhere.  He won't resign, and Bruce sure won't fire him.  Bruce needs to be fired but that's another story.
flyfisher

Some interesting comments on this thread, most I should not comment on.

A couple of things. LA, you mention getting all these alumni we have to help us recruit. Can't do that. BOOSTERS cannot illegally contact recruits. Nothing. They can address the team, as Frank had Kirchoff address the team in the locker room at 150. But alumni cannot recruit, period.

No one liked Loose more than me but when he left many of you here celebrated the change. Now you want him back. Which is it. Some of you sound like Hillary flip flopping. Loose did create a great culture and atmosphere. He favors a 4-3 with a few wrinkles. It was more a read and react style instead of an attacking defense. And you had to be extremely smart to play his defense.

Having attended the first and goal, it is not much of a recruiting event. There are so many kids there that if you spot 2-3 kids that you didn't already know then you have had a good day. Kids are not crazy about the camp necaise you don't get many reps and very little instruction so you have to cut in line all day to get extra reps and try to be seen.

One more thing on camps, coaches or team representatives cannot give tours when a camp is held on campus. Kids can tour campus but staff cannot escort them.

This thread is headed in a bad direction. Can't comment on this other junk.
Kpard

flyfisher wrote:
Some interesting comments on this thread, most I should not comment on.

This thread is headed in a bad direction. Can't comment on this other junk.


Agreed. The tone is getting a little disturbing. We are not talking about a Big Boy D1 program that generates millions in revenue and pays the HC a 7 figure salary. We are who we are and it just very bad right now for a number of reasons. I understand the frustration but let's keep it on the high road.
BillS

Kpard wrote:
flyfisher wrote:
Some interesting comments on this thread, most I should not comment on.

This thread is headed in a bad direction. Can't comment on this other junk.


Agreed. The tone is getting a little disturbing. We are not talking about a Big Boy D1 program that generates millions in revenue and pays the HC a 7 figure salary. We are who we are and it just very bad right now for a number of reasons. I understand the frustration but let's keep it on the high road.
Bad thread or not the rumors of this being Franks last year are persistent and  maybe Paul Reinhard will see this and ask Frank about those rumors at today's briefing.
NewXbo

Rumors? From who? Posters on this board? Have you talked to athletic department employees? Folks from Administration? Anybody can say anything, doesn't make it true.

I don't see Frank being a quitter. He may play out his contract but I don't see him quitting. That's anther rumor.
LeopardBall10

NewXbo wrote:
Rumors? From who? Posters on this board? Have you talked to athletic department employees? Folks from Administration? Anybody can say anything, doesn't make it true.

I don't see Frank being a quitter. He may play out his contract but I don't see him quitting. That's anther rumor.


I actually only think I have seen it posted on this board once, but have seen multiple mentions of the rumors. I agree that Frank is not a quitter, but we don't know his health situation. That is the wild card.

I posted on AGS that it seems obvious departmental/institutional change would be necessary to have any real impact. And since none of us here are delusional we know that won't happen. That means you need to find the right kind of coach to win in spite of the college, which is exactly what Frank did for years. He fought tooth and nail for everything thing the program has, held grudges against the entire administration until he is ultimately the only one left standing. But, the fight has taken a lot out of him. The *funny* thing is that Bruce would never hire that kind of coach again, because he doesn't like confrontation.
BillS

NewXbo wrote:
Rumors? From who? Posters on this board? Have you talked to athletic department employees? Folks from Administration? Anybody can say anything, doesn't make it true.

I don't see Frank being a quitter. He may play out his contract but I don't see him quitting. That's anther rumor.
We would all like to see Frank go out a winner ,he has done so much for this program after Eve, Artie and others tried to destroy it !
Franks Tanks

LeopardBall10 wrote:
NewXbo wrote:
Rumors? From who? Posters on this board? Have you talked to athletic department employees? Folks from Administration? Anybody can say anything, doesn't make it true.

I don't see Frank being a quitter. He may play out his contract but I don't see him quitting. That's anther rumor.


I actually only think I have seen it posted on this board once, but have seen multiple mentions of the rumors. I agree that Frank is not a quitter, but we don't know his health situation. That is the wild card.

I posted on AGS that it seems obvious departmental/institutional change would be necessary to have any real impact. And since none of us here are delusional we know that won't happen. That means you need to find the right kind of coach to win in spite of the college, which is exactly what Frank did for years. He fought tooth and nail for everything thing the program has, held grudges against the entire administration until he is ultimately the only one left standing. But, the fight has taken a lot out of him. The *funny* thing is that Bruce would never hire that kind of coach again, because he doesn't like confrontation.


Eve Atkinson actually hired Frank

http://articles.mcall.com/1999-12...l-russo-coach-tavani-frank-tavani

Not sure what kind of coach Bruce may favor, but he will probably mess it up.  Bruce's idea of a national search is asking the current assistants if they want the job.  If that doesn't work maybe he will put a help wanted add in the morning call,
Lafalum

Eve got fired because she told the truth to the press and the athletes that Artie wanted to end football and go Division 3. There is still blood surrounding
that fight at the BOT level and beyond. Which is part of our problem. A new AD that can negotiate a better environment and a free hand would do wonders. I can only hope.
LeopardAlum

I will no longer comment on this thread ( I am sure it will make a lot of you happy) But guys, sometimes the truth hurts, and sometimes it is downright ugly.

I am sorry this thread got ugly like it did. but hey, lets face it the direction our beloved program has gone in is ugly. And you are correct about BM's search for a coach. He will probably interview Mickey Fein first. AND, if he follows the same trend that got FT hired --- Phil Hallahan will be our next HC. now that is SCARY.


FT did A LOT for this program - true statement. He made the connections necessary to upgrade the facilities, the equipment, the gear, etc .... He hired a special staff that within a few short years, was able rise from the ashes.

However, a lot of those connections have turned sour, or dried up. All of those coaches have left. Now, FT sits in his office as the lone survivor. Unfortunately time has passed, the game has evolved. and not just x's and o's but the way to recruit has changed and for whatever reasons they may be--Lafayette Football has not entered this new era with the right formula.

As far as the recruiting comments about Lauren's First and Goal - while you are correct about the rules and regs.... that does not mean that Lafayette Football cannot use that EXPOSURE and all those eyes and ears on campus to a huge advantage to show those thousands of people in attendance what Lafayette has to offer. It does not need to be through a walk through tour. there are many other ways ... and we all know that is true.

Alumni recruiting - the idea is not to have the alumni do the physical jobs of recruiting ... its the idea of using a Blake Costanzo in whatever way possible to show H.S. kids that you can come to Lafayette, be seen by pro scouts and make it to the league if you have the skills to do it. Being a division ONE scholarship recruit, your dream is of making it to the NFL even though most leave Lafayette and use the degree to be successful in a huge variety of ways. We have an advantage on the other schools based on the fact that we had an ALL PRO NFL special teams legend who wore that L on his helmet for four years. Other schools cant show that to their recruits. I tell you this though, Fordham will soon, one of these kids they have is going to make it. They recruit athletes that Lafayette cannot compete with right now. And it is a shame because Lafayette offers far more to a football prospect than Fordham does.

Also the comments on John Loose's defense. YES you have to be plugged in and retain a lot of information in order to play in his defense, but trust me if you got to Lafayette you can do it. That is not an issue. His defense is extremely aggressive, it is not a read and react defense. And yes, you read an listen well. he does run a 4-3 for the most part but he is one of the first coaches in the country to be able to successfully run a 4-3 and a 3-4 with the same team. Now, you see coaches all over the country do it - being that in many ways the defenses are interchangeable . We can talk x's and o's all day. But truthfully, Lafayette would be lucky to have a HC the caliber of John Loose OR Matt Hachmann. Trust me, these guys are legit and young men play for them. Guys run through walls for Loose and for Hachmann. There is not a coach on the staff now that has that type of loyalty from their players.

Best of luck to the Leopards in whatever direction we go. But - if we are smart enough to consider Coach Loose - or Coach Hachmann well then one day we will be a contender. For the rest of 2015 - I just pray to the football gods that we can show up and be COMPETITIVE!!!!
Bogus Megapardus

Kpard wrote:
Agreed. The tone is getting a little disturbing. We are not talking about a Big Boy D1 program that generates millions in revenue and pays the HC a 7 figure salary. We are who we are and it just very bad right now for a number of reasons. I understand the frustration but let's keep it on the high road.


The tone is worrying but it's reflective of how fans feel right now.  I remain a dyed-in-maroon fan but also I see some truth between the lines in some of the posts.

Certainly I don't want the comments on this board to dissuade potential recruits.  I hope the kids recognize for themselves the many tremendous assets of a Lafayette College education and the unparalleled athletic facilities on College Hill.  But at the same time (and we've all said it before) - this is a Division I school.  This is not the minor leagues; it is not Division III.  Like all other Division I schools Lafayette has more-than-casual fans and those fans are prone to express their opinions and vent their frustrations within digital-age venues such as this.  

Certainly we want to keep it constructive.  We know Frank Tavani can coach a competitive team in the Patriot League.  He's done it before and all we can do is hope that he'll do it again.  But right now things look terrible and we have yet to see or hear of any concrete plans, from the coaching staff, the athletic director or the administration, regarding how to improve it.

I hope those plans are revealed to us very, very soon.
flyfisher

LA, my son played in Loose's defense. My oldest played in it at another school for 3 years. My oldest sat with Loose to better understand it. It's read and react, though it did involve extensive blitz packages and zone blitzes. Something we do very little of today. However don't get me wrong, we love Loose. And we love Link's style as well.

Been to Laurens 1st and goal more than nice. Son worked it. We do show off LC. We coxuld do more with banners supporting the academic strength of the school. That would require our administration helping out a little. Hang the banners that talk about our engineering school ranking and such. Have registration in a place that shows LC achievements.

As to alumni recruiting, Blake is a BOOSTER. Not sure how you can use him with recruits.

I appreciate your other posts and it's obvious you have been close to the program at one time or another or even now. I can't comment on your other thoughts. We all want the best for LC. Question is how that is achieved.
SIDELINER

LeopardAlum made the following comment:  That being said if Coach T. cares about this program half as much as us folks writing on this forum do he will realize that he needs to step down.

With all due respect, I think he got it wrong: If some of the folks writing on this form cared about this program half as much as Frank Tavani does, we wouldn’t be having this discussion., or bashing, or blood-letting or whatever you choose to call it.  Walk in his shoes at 2 or 3 a.m. on a Saturday night-Sunday morning after a game when he’s in the office with another coach pouring over the previous day’s game. Walk with him when he visits the hospital or talks with players and their families in times of emotional trials – and even more. Lafayette College football is his life. Ask his family. For sure, he must be thinking about his health more these days. He mentions it in stories every now and then. But no one is more committed to the program from all aspects than Coach T is. And when he’s not coaching or counseling, he’s trying to raise money to offset the shortcomings the program faces from the college budget. And on the recruiting end, no one can finish a recruit better than Coach T.

This year is an aberration, pure and simple. I’ve tried to compile a list of players who have missed at least one game this year – some the entire season, others a great majority of it. The team should certainly be better than 1-7. But, it is what it is. The players are not accustomed to all this losing. But no one is taking it harder than Coach Tavani. He has won before. He will win again. In the meantime, let’s see if some of the players below can get into the lineup again before this season is over.  And let’s hope the players who come to this board to see what people are saying aren’t feeling as though supposed fans are preparing a noose.
 
OL – Federinko (retired), Hoffman, Staudle, Miller, Kern, N. Zataveski, Grieser, Warfel, Lang.
TE – Keller, Wadsworth.
WR – Vangelas, Mrazek, Palumbo, Chenoweth, Franzese, Granjean, Goss, Crawford,
RB – Brown, Mayfield, Meriwether.
FB – Dellovade.
DL – Wright, Mercado, Lonardo, Fragapane, Vickers, Labudev, Ramsey.
LB – Brockman, Merriman, Speranza, Root, DePaolo.
CB-S – James, Smalley, Parham, Roberts, Butler, Powe,  Avent, Carroll, Rush.
NE Leopard

SIDELINER wrote:
LeopardAlum made the following comment:  That being said if Coach T. cares about this program half as much as us folks writing on this forum do he will realize that he needs to step down.

With all due respect, I think he got it wrong: If some of the folks writing on this form cared about this program half as much as Frank Tavani does, we wouldn’t be having this discussion., or bashing, or blood-letting or whatever you choose to call it.  Walk in his shoes at 2 or 3 a.m. on a Saturday night-Sunday morning after a game when he’s in the office with another coach pouring over the previous day’s game. Walk with him when he visits the hospital or talks with players and their families in times of emotional trials – and even more. Lafayette College football is his life. Ask his family. For sure, he must be thinking about his health more these days. He mentions it in stories every now and then. But no one is more committed to the program from all aspects than Coach T is. And when he’s not coaching or counseling, he’s trying to raise money to offset the shortcomings the program faces from the college budget. And on the recruiting end, no one can finish a recruit better than Coach T.

This year is an aberration, pure and simple. I’ve tried to compile a list of players who have missed at least one game this year – some the entire season, others a great majority of it. The team should certainly be better than 1-7. But, it is what it is. The players are not accustomed to all this losing. But no one is taking it harder than Coach Tavani. He has won before. He will win again. In the meantime, let’s see if some of the players below can get into the lineup again before this season is over.  And let’s hope the players who come to this board to see what people are saying aren’t feeling as though supposed fans are preparing a noose.
 
OL – Federinko (retired), Hoffman, Staudle, Miller, Kern, N. Zataveski, Grieser, Warfel, Lang.
TE – Keller, Wadsworth.
WR – Vangelas, Mrazek, Palumbo, Chenoweth, Franzese, Granjean, Goss, Crawford,
RB – Brown, Mayfield, Meriwether.
FB – Dellovade.
DL – Wright, Mercado, Lonardo, Fragapane, Vickers, Labudev, Ramsey.
LB – Brockman, Merriman, Speranza, Root, DePaolo.
CB-S – James, Smalley, Parham, Roberts, Butler, Powe,  Avent, Carroll, Rush.


Great Post...you also missed DiPietro at TE out for the season

We need to support the team through these tough times and finish out the season. There will be plenty of time for debate later. ROLL PARDS!
bethlehempard

Six straight losing seasons. A coach who gives all he has but hasn't turned it around and there's no immediate prospect of a real change.
I'm hoping there's a win out there for us and for the seniors.
There's not much to debate, now or in a few weeks.
Six straight losing years.
Jpao92

If I have the gist of your post, Frank cares.  He works hard and he cares.  We should not criticize him because he works really really really hard and cares.

And Coen doesn't care?  Susan doesn't care.  Every coach that puts his heart and soul into a team cares.   But it is irrelevant to the profession that they have chosen if they care.  Coaches who care get canned, some very unfairly, every year.  Wins and losses are the measure of success in the profession that coach Tavani has chosen.   Well, except for at Lafayette where a losing record is irrelevant.

Is it fair?  I dont know you tell me.  What lesson do you want the kids from the team that may come here and read this to learn?  That in the real world if they fail at their job or consistently or don't meet expectations or fall short of their goals it will be OK so long as they care.   Gee boss, gee business world I care, you can't hold me accountable.  I learned at my College that you can lose and lose and lose and as long as you "care a lot" you will have a job for life.

Walk a mile in Frank's shoes!?!  He is a mother freaking College coach who cant be fired and has to face criticism from us as the worst consequence.  Walk in his shoes?!?!  Have him walk in mine or any other person here where failure has consequences and let's see how he does.  Please, he is the equivalent of a tenured faculty member.
Bogus Megapardus

Jpao92 wrote:
Please, he is the equivalent of a tenured faculty member.


Tavani might be the equivalent of a tenured faculty member but that doesn't mean his responsibilities can't change.  As a tenured faculty member he could be assigned stewardship over the intramural program rather than the football program.
LeopardAlum

Sideliner --

That is such a chronie post. It almost seems like Tavani gave you an old practice jersey and a sideline pass for you to write that for him.


Tavani's lasting impact is that he SAVED the program from elimination or division three. He has a losing record. he has won some conference titles but there are six teams and The Patriot League become sub-par compared to the rest of the FCS because our administrators are scared to devote time effort and money to athletics because they are scared to lose their reputations as ALMOST ivies. (View our record and performances against schools in the NEC)(Compare the skill level of OUR athletes compared to those of athletes in the NEC)

Anyway, that is all. Tavanis very best seasons are 8-3 and 8-4 .... lets not sign up for the bronze statue over-looking fisher field just yet.


All those coach Loose bashers (crazy) I will be curious to see if Tavani can ever win a Patriot League title without a coach Loose defense to lean on.

Anyway, I said I was done - so now I really am. But that post by sideliner was straight up propaganda. Lets keep it real on here please.

Coach t. deserves credit for running a clean program, where everyone graduates, very few kids get in trouble in the papers, and our academic record is high for the football program. that is why he is not going anywhere. Bruce could care less about wins and losses as long as we all graduate and we continue to stay clean and produce academically. it is quite sad because Tavanis record is starting to become very, very poor.

Please no more coach t. propaganda. KEEP IT REAL. WE HAVE A LOSING PROGRAM. THE REST OF THE COUNTRY DOES NOT RESPECT LAFAYETTE FOOTBALL ANYMORE. HIGHSCHOOL RECRUITS ARE CHOOSING  GEORGETOWN AND BUCKNELL OVER EASTON, PA.

go back to being positive. ROLL PARDS.

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