carney2
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Yale Game ThreadOur comrade, Pards Rule, reports from New Haven that the rain may have already blown threw southern CT. Mr. WeatherMan confirms, with the chance of rain reduced to 50%, and apparently most of that in the morning.
Paul Reinhard of the Mourning Crawl picks the Pards by 3 and reports that Curley is out. (We knew that, but this is game day, so...) I can't put my hands on the source, but I remember reading that 2 Yale starters will be out, including the starting center, which further weakens an already questionable offensive line. Yale's big weapon is sophomore QB Patrick Witt, a transfer from Nebraska.
The Yale "D" has only given up 69 rushing yards total in two games. We're talking about Georgetown and Cornell however, so I don't expect their average of 34.5 yds. per game and 1.5 yds. per rush to hold today.
Two hours to go.
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Pard94
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Im with you in cyberspace today Carney. I like to keep this board open in one browser and the game in another and switch back and forth to provide and read comentary. I don't how today will turn out but I am optimistic. I think we can pull one out against this team with or without Curley. If we lose I'm not going to hang my head too much as I think it is fair to say this team as very different and much better with Curley under center. I'm looking for a conservative game anchored by the running game with short to medium passes to keep them honest. Screens and draws maybe the order of the day.
This could be great experience for the kid who might well be the future of the program. Everybody says O'Neil is the most athletic QB on the roster. Should be interesting. GO PARDS!
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carney2
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Curley is starting!
Lafayette receives the opening kickoff.
Morrow fumbles the opening kickoff. Yale starts on the Lafayette 26.
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65Pard
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uh oh......bad news kickoff fumbled...Yale ball
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Pard94
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Lafayette need to tighten the hell up on Defense or this is going to be a long day.
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carney2
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Yale is running thru gaping holes in the Lafayette defense.
TD Yale. They score on a 4th and 3 pass from Witt to number 7. Cornerback slipped and lost coverage.
7-0 Yale
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Pard94
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Great play by the linebacker to stop the touchdown on third down. Equally awful play by the d-back falling down to allow the touchdown on the following play. I sure expected to see more blitzing and stunts from the defense given the young o-line. Perhaps the short field mitigated their ability to do that.
Told you Curley would start! 
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carney2
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Lafayette starts on their own 26. Morrow hangs on this time.
1st play is a Curley to Doty pass for a 1st down. Doty is not getting up.
Yale is apparently playing with two number 10s - Witt on offense and some other guy on defense. Isn't that illegal? I guess not.
Curley is looking OK so far.
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carney2
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A holding penalty seems to have stalled a promising drive.
LC will be punting from the Yale 45.
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Pard94
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Without the stupid holding play I think that drive would have looked pretty good. Penalty aside the o-line looks up to the task.
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65Pard
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So far, Yale has the edge in play calling....
Curley looks good
Yale able to move the ball.
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Pard94
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We're tackeling like a bunch of girls. 
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Pard94
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| 65Pard wrote: | So far, Yale has the edge in play calling....
Curley looks good
Yale able to move the ball. |
Yale has the edge period...meaning they are running and passing the ball just off tackle very successfully.
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carney2
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The D makes a stop, but Yale was picking up yardage in big chunks prior to that.
Yale's punter puts the ball on the Lafayette 3. Yale offsides makes it 1st and 5 on the 8.
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carney2
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End of 1: Yale 7, Lafayette 0
LC ends quarter with a 1st and 10 on their own 45. Curley is moving the team.
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Pard94
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So the good news after one quarter is, as long as we don't commit stupid penalties, we seem to be able to move the ball on them almost as effectively as they are moving it on us. The score is 100% due to the fumble on the opening kick off. If it continues to play out like this it could be a close game as expected...except it could end up being a high scoring affair. Interesting.
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Pard94
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Jeez...curley just got leveled. Not good for a kid whose bell is still ringing from last week.
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carney2
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Can you believe it?!: 1st play is a fake fumble and a bomb. Incomplete.
Lafayette punts, but a roughing the kicker call gives the ball back to the Pards. Kondash was nailed.
1st down bomb to Layton is off his fingertips.
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Pard94
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Kind of a sloppy game penalty-wise.
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carney2
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Curley to Hayes picks up a 1st on 3rd and 12.
1st down bomb for Padia is incomplete. Lots of 1st down going for it all calls by Fein/Tavani today.
3rd and 10 completion for a 1st to the Yale 16.
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carney2
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Rodrigez slips and falls while kicking a FG, but good anyway.
Yale 7, LC 3.
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Pard94
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Curley's timing/touch seems to be just off on the long ball today. Also, Layton isn't making the supehuman catches he's become known for this season. Not really blaming him becuase those catches today would have been superhuman. Nice to Rodgriguez stick one through though I would have preferred the touchdown.
If Fein and company stick with the strategy of going for the big play...I think they will hit one or two before it's all said and done. Layton is faster than their d-backs.
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65Pard
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As Curley goes, so go the Leopard fortunes.....He looks good enough to pull this game out, if the D can hold up.
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Pard94
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wow we dodged a bullet on that one. that ball was fumbled!
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carney2
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LC is dominating time of possession.
Yale has switched QBs. No explanation.
White fumbles, but refs say he was down. He wasn't. We got lucky.
Steady diet of White has the ball on the 41. 4th and 2. Going for it.
LC quick kicks. Ball was going to stop on the 2, but Padia knocked it into the end zone. I yelled "IDIOT!!" at my TV.
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Pard94
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quick kick right out of a keystone cops film. Padillia didn't even need to touch it. that kind of crap can come back to haunt you.
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carney2
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Interception - McGovern!
Ball on LC 47.
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Pard94
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ok good interception by mcgovern...but why didn't he get up and run???
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Pard94
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VIDEO??????
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carney2
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Interception - Yale.
My TV has gone to a black screen. It's RCN and not the TV. Give me a freakin' break.
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Pard94
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DAMN IT! Why do I pay for this?
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65Pard
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lost the picture, have sound
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carney2
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There is a god. Leone plugged the thing back in.
Yale punts. LC has the ball on their own 28
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carney2
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Holding penalty moves it back to the 28. 2:29 remaining.
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carney2
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Layton makes a one handed grab to move the ball to the Yale 17.
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Pard94
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i knew they were going to connect on one of those!!!
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DaveR
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Touchdown! Curley to Layton!
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carney2
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Curley to Layton TD!!!
LC 10, Yale 7
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carney2
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10-7, Lafayette at the half.
Lafayette is beginning to control the line of scrimmage. The stats should be very heavy in favor of LC.
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Pard94
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Alright. Alright...I'll take this. The defense stumbled out of the gate but REALLY pulled it together. Curely's showing no ill effects of his "concussion". The O-line looks good.
Now...dare I say it and I will knock wood as I type...please keep this up in the 2nd half!! KNOCK WOOD!
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Pard94
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Damn...they're saying it's pouring now. Just when the passing game was really coming around. Hope it passes (no pun intended).
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65Pard
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Harvard on top of Skawkgeneers 20-7 in 2Q
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carney2
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| Pard94 wrote: | | Now...dare I say it and I will knock wood as I type...please keep this up in the 2nd half!! KNOCK WOOD! |
One of the pregame comments from Leone had to do with how this team needs to learn how to play 60 minutes.
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carney2
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Lafayette is kicking off to begin the 2nd half.
Yale has only 100 yds. in total offense.
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carney2
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Schmidlein is down. Helmet to helmet. Say it ain't so.
By the way, Curley had a "near concussion," not a concussion.
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carney2
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Yale went for a 4th and inches. Measurement.
Lafayette holds by an inch - a freakin' inch.
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Pard94
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That was a HUGE stop for the Pard D.
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carney2
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Frank and Fein are sticking to the ground.
but,
Curley "is throwing nothing but strikes right now."
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carney2
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WR reverse. Stripe for a TD
LC 17, Yale 7.
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Pard94
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That was just a terrific drive.
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65Pard
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LC Touchdown..Gotta love the play calling and execution on that drive....
Curley very impressive
Now up to D to win this game....
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carney2
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Punt return Padia. to the LC 48. Here we go again. This one may be on the verge of getting out of hand.
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carney2
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DRIVE! A steady diet of Mo White.
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carney2
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End of 3: LC 17, Yale 7
Lafayette 3rd and goal on the Yale 4
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Pard94
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I am just so afraid to say anything at this point.
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carney2
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Curley to layton - TD
LC 24, Yale 7
The party's over.
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carney2
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On the move again. Yale has no answers on either side of the ball.
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carney2
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12 in the huddle kills the drive, but the urgency has been removed from this game.
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carney2
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Lafayette is rushing 3, so Yale is piling up some stats. Only their 2nd 1st down of the half during this drive. Yale is inside the Lafayette 20.
Oops! Poulson sacks the QB.
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DaveR
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LC in a 'prevent defense'. Not preventing much.
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carney2
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Great throw. great catch. TD Yale. 18 plays, 90 yds. on the drive.
Lafayette 24, Yale 14 4:30 to go.
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Pard94
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I hate to nitpick but I sure wish we wouldn't give up these garbage points. I'd love to send a message and when the opponents tack on the crap points they make it look closer than it actually is.
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carney2
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The OL is escorting Mo White into the endzone. 40 yds. 3 plays. All OL; all Mo.
Lafayette 31, Yale 14
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Pard94
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Nevermind.
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DaveR
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MoWhite making it look easy. 31-14
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Pard94
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What's up with the helmets popping off left and right? I've seen helmets off at least 6 times.
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carney2
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Frank, take that prevent defense or whatever and stuff it where the sun doesn't shine.
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carney2
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Good lord, I thought the flea flicker went out with Bronco Nagurski. Our announcer guys called it the "hook and ladder," so maybe some nuance that I am not picking up here.
Yale is knocking on the door as the Lafayette rushes 3 and seems to let anything and everything be done in front of them.
Yale goes for a FG on a 4th and 20. Wide left.
Game, set, match to Lafayette.
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carney2
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Final: LC 31, Yale 14.
I love it!
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65Pard
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[quote="carney2"]Good lord, I thought the flea flicker went out with Bronco Nagurski. Our announcer guys called it the "hook and ladder," so maybe some nuance that I am not picking
Should be hook and lateral (buttonhook and lateral)
Carney can we now bury the Curse???
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Pard94
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That was a terrific game from start to finish. I don't know what I am happier about...Curly is emerging as a genuine star and, not surprisingly, our O-Line looks to be as good a group as we've seen in Easton in years! And that's saying something. The Defense looked dominating. Just a great win. Is Yale worse than we thought or are we better than we thought. Not that I care. They win pretty or win ugly. As long as they keep winning. That was a lot of fun. On to Columbia which will not be a walk in the park. GO PARDS!!!
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carney2
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C'mon, 65. I'd expect that kind of "Does this bury the curse?" crap frpm 94, but we all know that offensive linemen - even olde offensive linemen - have no soul. In perspective:
The Curse has been building for 125 years.
One does not dispel it with one game, one season or even one decade.
Unfortunately, The Curse lives.
Next Curse game is at Hahvahd - and we actually have a shot.
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Pard94
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| carney2 wrote: | C'mon, 65. I'd expect that kind of "Does this bury the curse?" crap frpm 94, but we all know that offensive linemen - even olde offensive linemen - have no soul. In perspective:
The Curse has been building for 125 years.
One does not dispel it with one game, one season or even one decade.
Unfortunately, The Curse lives.
Next Curse game is at Hahvahd - and we actually have a shot. |
Columbia doesn't count as a curse game? Are they not an Ivy team? Or do they just not fit into your little Curse delusion? By the way, I'm still in my thirties so I'm not officially old yet. The "soul" part is certainly up for debate though.
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65Pard
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Finally some imaginative offensive calling and plays......
Curley emerging as a bonafide QB, Mo running with power, Layton with yet another superhuman grab.....depth at running back and receiving....
If they play like this every week, they have a shot at winning every week.
And its two wins Carney not one......the Curse lives on only in your insipid imagination.
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Xboreturns
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What a great hire Mickey Fein was. The offense is totally unpredictable. Nine different receivers today. Shades of Bill Russo with the fake fumble. If Curley ever zeros in on the long bombs we may not lose nother game.
Solid effort by defense as usual. O-line took another step forward and really closed it out with a dominating job by the right side for the final TD. Only down side is that Carney and Pard94 will have nothing to complain about all week.
Harvard 28 - Lehigh 14, final
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Franks Tanks
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| Xboreturns wrote: | What a great hire Mickey Fein was. The offense is totally unpredictable. Nine different receivers today. Shades of Bill Russo with the fake fumble. If Curley ever zeros in on the long bombs we may not lose nother game.
Solid effort by defense as usual. O-line took another step forward and really closed it out with a dominating job by the right side for the final TD. Only down side is that Carney and Pard94 will have nothing to complain about all week.
Harvard 28 - Lehigh 14, final |
Mickey is doing a nice job.
ALso the running game finally broke out today and I expect that to continue. What great win.
Colgate and Holy Cross also won big today, but we showed we are right there with those two for PL champship contention.
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Newleopardfan
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OK - I haven't had time to read all of the board entries, but based on the 8 pages, I assume that everybody knows how LC made "history" today. Just back from the game (OK, I bailed with 3 minutes left in the game) but here's what I saw:
After the first kickoff-fumble-Yale TD, we totally dominated the game through the end of the 4th quarter. Our O-line made big holes, we had VERY strong running, and creative play calling. There were 4 plays that were each overthrown by 1 foot, any one of which could have been TDs. Curley was great - calm in the pocket or out, hit all of his short and mid-range throws, and was just a bit too strong on the long patterns. The D was it's usual dominating force, with a brilliant tipped pass-interception and really strong line play with constant pressure, and special teams was generally solid except for the fumbled kickoff and the blown opportunity of the quick kick (boy, did Frank express his displeasure in colorful language after that play!). It rained during halftime, but otherwise was calm, almost balmy weather. I think LC had about as big of a crowd as the home boys did, and about half of their crowd were Wiffenpoofs. I think the term "all cylinders" applies today: all-around outstanding football. IF they play like they did today, I don't see any team left on the schedule that will beat them.
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RichH
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Congratulations on great win 
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carney2
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| Pard94 wrote: | | Columbia doesn't count as a curse game? Are they not an Ivy team? |
Sometimes I feel like I am talking to children. Now, listen carefully. There is a quiz included.
There are eight Curse teams.
No, it is not the Ancient 8.
Can you name all 8 teams covered by The Curse?
Now. insipid...insipid...ah, here it is:
"without distinctive, interesting, or stimulating qualities; vapid: an insipid personality."
Perfect. It's what my wife wants to call me, but she lacks the vocabulary.
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65Pard
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| carney2 wrote: |
Can you name all 8 teams covered by The Curse?
Harvard, Princeton, Yale, Penn, Army, Colgate
Umm....Rutgers and whoever else you think has sold their collective soul
Now. insipid...insipid...ah, here it is:
"without distinctive, interesting, or stimulating qualities; vapid: an insipid personality."
Perfect. It's what my wife wants to call me, but she lacks the vocabulary. |
My wife calls me a consultant.....when she wants my opinion, says she, she will ask for it...
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Pard94
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| carney2 wrote: | | Pard94 wrote: | | Columbia doesn't count as a curse game? Are they not an Ivy team? |
Sometimes I feel like I am talking to children. Now, listen carefully. There is a quiz included.
There are eight Curse teams.
No, it is not the Ancient 8.
Can you name all 8 teams covered by The Curse?
Tell me more about how WE are the children because we can't fully grasp this notion of a Curse. And then you can express your exasperation over our inability to fully comprehend the notion of Santa Clause and the Easter Bunny. 
Now. insipid...insipid...ah, here it is:
"without distinctive, interesting, or stimulating qualities; vapid: an insipid personality."
Perfect. It's what my wife wants to call me, but she lacks the vocabulary. |
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Newleopardfan
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Now that history has been made, here are some other events that caught my eye:
Colgate piled up 45 and pasted Cornell, a team that beat Yale last week.
Fordham scored 34 and beat a tough (previously 3-1) new Old Dominion team.
HC scored 42 and destroyed Northeastern.
Conclusion:
PL is clearly wide open. I better curb my enthusiasm.
Especially since we are staring at a Columbia team that beat Princeton, 38-0.
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Franks Tanks
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| Newleopardfan wrote: | Now that history has been made, here are some other events that caught my eye:
Colgate piled up 45 and pasted Cornell, a team that beat Yale last week.
Fordham scored 34 and beat a tough (previously 3-1) new Old Dominion team.
HC scored 42 and destroyed Northeastern.
Conclusion:
PL is clearly wide open. I better curb my enthusiasm.
Especially since we are staring at a Columbia team that beat Princeton, 38-0. |
I was impressed by Cross and Gate, but not Fordham.
This is ODU's first year of football and up to now they beat a few D-II teams and Monmouth. Fordham should have won by at least as much as they did.
Columbia looked very good against Princeton, but I believe Princeton is really bad and Lehigh may be even worse.
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LeopardFan04
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| carney2 wrote: | | Pard94 wrote: | | Columbia doesn't count as a curse game? Are they not an Ivy team? |
Sometimes I feel like I am talking to children. Now, listen carefully. There is a quiz included.
There are eight Curse teams.
No, it is not the Ancient 8.
Can you name all 8 teams covered by The Curse?
Now. insipid...insipid...ah, here it is:
"without distinctive, interesting, or stimulating qualities; vapid: an insipid personality."
Perfect. It's what my wife wants to call me, but she lacks the vocabulary. |
"The Curse" teams are, of course, the Ancient 8 minus Columbia plus Colgate. However, curses don't exist, so this is all speculation. 
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carney2
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| LeopardFan04 wrote: | | "The Curse" teams are, of course, the Ancient 8 minus Columbia plus Colgate. However, curses don't exist, so this is all speculation. |
You would have received a gold star for your forehead if you hadn't gone opinionated smartasse at the end.
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LeopardFan04
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| carney2 wrote: | | LeopardFan04 wrote: | | "The Curse" teams are, of course, the Ancient 8 minus Columbia plus Colgate. However, curses don't exist, so this is all speculation. |
You would have received a gold star for your forehead if you hadn't gone opinionated smartasse at the end. |
I don't get a gold star for being an opinionated smartass? 
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carney2
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| LeopardFan04 wrote: | | I don't get a gold star for being an opinionated smartass? |
Normally, you would get the star affixed to your forehead by a blowtorch for that infraction, but you are being given a pass because you are a relative newbie (fewer than 100 posts). Shape up!
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LeopardFan04
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| carney2 wrote: | | LeopardFan04 wrote: | | I don't get a gold star for being an opinionated smartass? |
Normally, you would get the star affixed to your forehead by a blowtorch for that infraction, but you are being given a pass because you are a relative newbie (fewer than 100 posts). Shape up! |
Yes, I don't post much over here. I just stick to reading mostly. Although I have wasted enough time to post over 3,000 times on AGS. I don't know if I'm more ashamed of that or that I used to maybe, kind of, sort of believe in The Curse.
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65Pard
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Wait....The notion of The Curse must be kept alive strictly for the entertainment value it provides, if not for providing some measure of rationale for our esteemed Carney.
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carney2
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| 65Pard wrote: | | Wait....The notion of The Curse must be kept alive strictly for the entertainment value it provides, if not for providing some measure of rationale for our esteemed Carney. |
Finally someone makes some sense.
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Pard94
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| carney2 wrote: | | 65Pard wrote: | | Wait....The notion of The Curse must be kept alive strictly for the entertainment value it provides, if not for providing some measure of rationale for our esteemed Carney. |
Finally someone makes some sense. |
When "talking sense" means curses exist...we're in trouble.
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DaveR
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| Pard94 wrote: | | carney2 wrote: | | 65Pard wrote: | | Wait....The notion of The Curse must be kept alive strictly for the entertainment value it provides, if not for providing some measure of rationale for our esteemed Carney. |
Finally someone makes some sense. |
When "talking sense" means curses exist...we're in trouble. |
With all this talk of curses, I thought I'd take a look at our record vs. the teams in question. Per this website: http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_iaa/patriot/lafayette/vs_conf_opponents.php?confid=87&restrictions=none
I found our record vs. the following (W-L-T) before this year:
Brown 3-8-0
Columbia 27-11-2
Cornell 8-14-2
Dartmouth 2-6-0
Harvard 2-11-0
Penn 20-61-4
Princeton 4-37-3
Yale 0-7-0
Colgate 10-38-4
If we are "cursed" against the above teams (minus Columbia), what about the following:
Delaware 7-18-0
Maine 2-8-0
New Hampshire 1-5-0
Rhode Island 0-3-0
Army 1-17-0
Navy 4-8-0
And I suppose that these opponents stopped playing us, because they think we hold a "curse" over them:
James Madison 2-0-0
Richmond 3-0-0
Villanova 4-0-0
Pittsburgh 5-3-0
West Virginia 3-1-1
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Franks Tanks
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| DaveR wrote: | | Pard94 wrote: | | carney2 wrote: | | 65Pard wrote: | | Wait....The notion of The Curse must be kept alive strictly for the entertainment value it provides, if not for providing some measure of rationale for our esteemed Carney. |
Finally someone makes some sense. |
When "talking sense" means curses exist...we're in trouble. |
With all this talk of curses, I thought I'd take a look at our record vs. the teams in question. Per this website: http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_iaa/patriot/lafayette/vs_conf_opponents.php?confid=87&restrictions=none
I found our record vs. the following (W-L-T) before this year:
Brown 3-8-0
Columbia 27-11-2
Cornell 8-14-2
Dartmouth 2-6-0
Harvard 2-11-0
Penn 20-61-4
Princeton 4-37-3
Yale 0-7-0
Colgate 10-38-4
If we are "cursed" against the above teams (minus Columbia), what about the following:
Delaware 7-18-0
Maine 2-8-0
New Hampshire 1-5-0
Rhode Island 0-3-0
Army 1-17-0
Navy 4-8-0
And I suppose that these opponents stopped playing us, because they think we hold a "curse" over them:
James Madison 2-0-0
Richmond 3-0-0
Villanova 4-0-0
Pittsburgh 5-3-0
West Virginia 3-1-1
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Clearly the CAA and Big East want nothing to do with the Leopards
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Pard94
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| Franks Tanks wrote: | | DaveR wrote: | | Pard94 wrote: | | carney2 wrote: | | 65Pard wrote: | | Wait....The notion of The Curse must be kept alive strictly for the entertainment value it provides, if not for providing some measure of rationale for our esteemed Carney. |
Finally someone makes some sense. |
When "talking sense" means curses exist...we're in trouble. |
With all this talk of curses, I thought I'd take a look at our record vs. the teams in question. Per this website: http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_iaa/patriot/lafayette/vs_conf_opponents.php?confid=87&restrictions=none
I found our record vs. the following (W-L-T) before this year:
Brown 3-8-0
Columbia 27-11-2
Cornell 8-14-2
Dartmouth 2-6-0
Harvard 2-11-0
Penn 20-61-4
Princeton 4-37-3
Yale 0-7-0
Colgate 10-38-4
If we are "cursed" against the above teams (minus Columbia), what about the following:
Delaware 7-18-0
Maine 2-8-0
New Hampshire 1-5-0
Rhode Island 0-3-0
Army 1-17-0
Navy 4-8-0
And I suppose that these opponents stopped playing us, because they think we hold a "curse" over them:
James Madison 2-0-0
Richmond 3-0-0
Villanova 4-0-0
Pittsburgh 5-3-0
West Virginia 3-1-1
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Clearly the CAA and Big East want nothing to do with the Leopards |
Well because they are Cursed. Carney will tell you all about it.
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carney2
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We must be doing well. All we have is beating up on poor carney. Not to despair. He can take it. He's married.
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Pard94
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| carney2 wrote: | | We must be doing well. All we have is beating up on poor carney. Not to despair. He can take it. He's married. |
You're an easy target my friend. Especially when you put a huge "KICK ME" sign on yourself (i.e. curse talk).
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