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Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 4:20 pm

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Amen fly.  I couldn't agree more.

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Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 4:34 pm

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[quote="flyfisher:58043"]I posted it on here after the game on Saturday about the demonstration at the front gate. I spoke with the Dioreo who organized the event. She was at the front of the line leading the charge. And she is the lady over the Consulting team and committee this going to fix our Athletics. Forgive me if I don't feel good about the outcome. And to make matters worse she has Byerly's ear. that was not the time or place for the person over athletics to organize a diversity demonstration.[/quote]

Then let the cost of that voice in her ear be felt!! Make it loud and clear to Allison that there will be no money until the College puts a stop the Diorio show.

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Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 4:49 pm

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Agree on the protest.  

With the committee I understand her presence  She is in charge of that area, and it was my understanding that the consultant will be delivering the report directly to Byerly.  The committee is there to provide feedback and information to the consultant, but the consultant delivers the report.  At least that is my understanding.  

It is very likely the consultant will be very critical of her management, and this will be crystal clear once discussions take place

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Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 5:02 pm

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I guess my question would be are people pissed beyond this forum?
There are knowledgeable fans and some contributing alumni here,  but our thoughts are dismissed as moaning of a few anonymous curmudgeons and emotional parents. The fight needs to be bigger.  
To me to the issue is straightforward: An employee is not being held accountable. 3-19 is in no way acceptable at this level, particularly in years 16 and 17.  Furthermore, he's laughing in the face of the idea that he should be. The diversity protest is notwithstanding but tertiary,
Those taking solace in our underclassmen need to take note: We've been singing this same tune for years.  Remember how bright the future looked 3 seasons ago when a freshman qb turned the season around and we were going forward on equal footing in terms of scholarships? This year we were supposed to reap the benefit of all the paying experience from last year.   Our standards have fallen to the point where we're happy to play even with teams a couple of quarters.  We aren't a posession away,  we aren't close to breaking through!
I keep thinking it can't get worse.  It does.

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Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 6:19 pm

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TM - from my old-guy teammates, the overall attitude is one of dismay.  Even "our" FOLF leader has stopped reaching out to discuss our era's sponsorship of a scholarship.

As others have convinced me to be optimistic over the consultation, I will do so.  But this is the first year I did not contribute to the pre-Lehigh fund drive and I am seriously considering breaking my New Year's Eve tradition of debit carding some funds to the school.

I am not close enough to judge FT's performance.  He was a great recruiter and very energetic.  That is how I choose to remember him.  However, as I've commented/complained before, the overall state of athletics causes me greater concern.  I find nothing funny about being the loveable loser.

More importantly, thanks to the innumerable sports channels I get on TV, there are way too many opportunities for the nation to witness LC getting repeatedly blown out in (pretty much) all sports.  The tickers always run, and we are always on them. If athletics isn't a meaningful part of the student experience, why have them?  

Please understand that I am not advocating disbandment.  I am strongly advocating the commitment to at least competitiveness, if not outright winning.  I cannot see how, for even the least sports minded member of the LC Community, that repeated losing is a positive.
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Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 6:55 pm

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leopard88 wrote:
There are temporary bleachers in front of Kirby in this picture. I don't remember seeing them on Saturday.


Correct. They were not there. I can 't believe we could not sell out this game. And to make it worse, the whole left side of the stadium on our side was all brown.

Pardon the IPad spelling


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Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 7:07 pm

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not sure why someone is posting the program is on equal footing scholarships wise.
It's been posted on here that zero dollars from 150 went to athletics, and everything lehigh made went to athletics.
You have people having demonstrations at gates at the Lehigh game.
You have departments in disarray over an election for no reason at all.

Attitude is everything.

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Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 7:11 pm

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flyfisher wrote:
leopard88 wrote:
There are temporary bleachers in front of Kirby in this picture. I don't remember seeing them on Saturday.


Correct. They were not there. I can 't believe we could not sell out this game. And to make it worse, the whole left she demands f our side with of the stadium was all brown.


FF - WOW.  That is terrible.  Pretty much unheard of.  I lived in Palmer Twp while in grad school, was on campus often and at all the Rivalry Games.  I cannot remember a non-sellout, nor any brown pants on the home side.
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Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 8:12 pm

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flyfisher wrote:
I posted it on here after the game on Saturday about the demonstration at the front gate. I spoke briefly with Dioreo who organized the event. She was at the front of the line leading the charge. And she is the lady over the Consulting team and committee that is going to fix our Athletics. Forgive me if I don't feel good about the outcome. And to make matters worse she has Byerly's ear. that was not the time or place for the person over athletics to organize a diversity demonstration.


 I don't always share your opinion FF, but in this instance, you are absolutely on the mark.

 That demonstration was permitted and administered in poor taste by the college.

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Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 8:46 pm

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Always use the gate at the other end of the parking deck. No line, no demonstrations.
The game is the show. Nothing else.
If FT is back I won't attend a home game. We have reached the level of lunacy and there is little hope for next year.
How many of our guys in FB or BB could start for Lehigh?

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Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 9:36 pm

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Pardsfriend wrote:
flyfisher wrote:
I posted it on here after the game on Saturday about the demonstration at the front gate. I spoke briefly with Dioreo who organized the event. She was at the front of the line leading the charge. And she is the lady over the Consulting team and committee that is going to fix our Athletics. Forgive me if I don't feel good about the outcome. And to make matters worse she has Byerly's ear. that was not the time or place for the person over athletics to organize a diversity demonstration.


I don't always share your opinion FF, but in this instance, you are absolutely on the mark.

That demonstration was permitted and administered in poor taste by the college.


Present-day administrators do not want to be late to any diversity parades and, if they can lead them, all the better. That's the climate.

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Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 9:52 pm

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bethlehempard wrote:
Always use the gate at the other end of the parking deck. No line, no demonstrations.
The game is the show. Nothing else.
If FT is back I won't attend a home game. We have reached the level of lunacy and there is little hope for next year.
How many of our guys in FB or BB could start for Lehigh?


BB--zippo       FB--They'd find some place for Powe, I think.  IMO we have a better punter

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Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 9:57 pm

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pardfan wrote:
bethlehempard wrote:
Always use the gate at the other end of the parking deck. No line, no demonstrations.
The game is the show. Nothing else.
If FT is back I won't attend a home game. We have reached the level of lunacy and there is little hope for next year.
How many of our guys in FB or BB could start for Lehigh?


BB--zippo FB--They'd find some place for Powe, I think. IMO we have a better punter

Talent, and player development, is certainly better, but coaching is the real gap. We look like the damm keystone cops trying to block, cover and tackle.

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Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 10:19 pm

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WVPard wrote:
TM - from my old-guy teammates, the overall attitude is one of dismay. Even "our" FOLF leader has stopped reaching out to discuss our era's sponsorship of a scholarship.

As others have convinced me to be optimistic over the consultation, I will do so. But this is the first year I did not contribute to the pre-Lehigh fund drive and I am seriously considering breaking my New Year's Eve tradition of debit carding some funds to the school.

I am not close enough to judge FT's performance. He was a great recruiter and very energetic. That is how I choose to remember him. However, as I've commented/complained before, the overall state of athletics causes me greater concern. I find nothing funny about being the loveable loser.

More importantly, thanks to the innumerable sports channels I get on TV, there are way too many opportunities for the nation to witness LC getting repeatedly blown out in (pretty much) all sports. The tickers always run, and we are always on them. If athletics isn't a meaningful part of the student experience, why have them?

Please understand that I am not advocating disbandment. I am strongly advocating the commitment to at least competitiveness, if not outright winning. I cannot see how, for even the least sports minded member of the LC Community, that repeated losing is a positive.


Commitment to competitiveness means WINNING.

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Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 9:50 am

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flyfisher wrote:
I posted it on here after the game on Saturday about the demonstration at the front gate. I spoke briefly with Dioreo who organized the event. She was at the front of the line leading the charge. And she is the lady over the Consulting team and committee that is going to fix our Athletics. Forgive me if I don't feel good about the outcome. And to make matters worse she has Byerly's ear. that was not the time or place for the person over athletics to organize a diversity demonstration.


It is very evident that our administration views our sporting events as a opportunity to exploit. 150 game - roll out a capital campaign. Rivalry game = big crowd - let's disguise a temper tantrum about an election outcome as a "diversity" rally. Led by an administrator and approved by the school!
It is utter madness.
People who are only concerned about social justice (whatever the hell that is), diversity, and equality have no concept about competing and winning. And the ones who do are the ones who will thrive out in the real world.
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Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 3:24 pm

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"Who could start for Lehigh?"

Nick Lindner.

Bueu Bosch.

Brandon Bryant.

Wadsworth.

That's it.


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