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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2016 11:33 am

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NewXbo wrote:
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It is now in the hands of the AD. Who is hired as HC will say a ton about our future direction. Any top candidate will require a big commit from LC in terms of support in terms of recruiting, hiring top assistants etc. Hope that we go that route.


Unless there is a change in the process, the AD will not make the decision Coaches have historically hired by committee. You will be surprised when you see who is on the committee.


My hope is that there is a plan in place. Somebody (do not know who) made the decision to fire Frank. Hopefully, he/she/they had a plan in place beyond let us form a committee.

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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2016 11:34 am

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It is now in the hands of the AD. Who is hired as HC will say a ton about our future direction. Any top candidate will require a big commit from LC in terms of support in terms of recruiting, hiring top assistants etc. Hope that we go that route.


Unless there is a change in the process, the AD will not make the decision Coaches have historically hired by committee. You will be surprised when you see who is on the committee.


I would guess no large long term supporters will be named, because they have in mind who they want. Without those supporters  the search has no credibility for me.

I am thinking there is a 60pct chance its Fein. That will not push me to open my wallet, or others!!!


Would like to know who is on that committee - assuming there is one.

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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2016 12:33 pm

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Andy your comments are exactly why I don't think Mickey (despite being named interim) is the right HC candidate.  I don't think kids have generally improved under him or Stan C.


Agree, I don't think there is anyway you can keep the 3 main guys in Fein, Link and Clayton.  I am more than willing to accept that they are much better coaches than the last few years may indicate, but it just isn't working.  

Perhaps retaining a few solid younger guys like Dell or coach Phil would make sense for current relationships, but we need to move on.  Also I don't think we make the bold move (for Lafayette) of firing Frank, only to hire someone on staff to proceed almost the same as before.


Yup. I could see Coach Dell being retained. If in fact recruiting has improved substantially the last 2 years, then Coach Phil should get some recognition as he's been the coordinator.  Watching the sidelines, I like the energy and player interaction from young Coach Ferguson. Some of his guys have come to the fore. Has blocking improved, on the screens? Not sure. I like what I see in him though.

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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2016 12:40 pm

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Retaining the top three or hiring any of the top three as HC means there is no change or desire for change and would illustrate that the current administration hasn't got a clue. It would not inspire confidence.

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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2016 2:39 pm

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Lafalum wrote:
Retaining the top three or hiring any of the top three as HC means there is no change or desire for change and would illustrate that the current administration hasn't got a clue. It would not inspire confidence.


Totally agree.

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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2016 2:59 pm

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Mr. Wilson sums it up:

http://www.lehighvalleylive.com/l...ank_tavanis_time_had_come_at.html

Hope the local press can do some digging re candidates as LC moves forward.

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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2016 3:25 pm

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Andy wrote:
Mr. Wilson sums it up:

http://www.lehighvalleylive.com/l...ank_tavanis_time_had_come_at.html

Hope the local press can do some digging re candidates as LC moves forward.


Very well written. All very true. We all like Frank, but, the time has come because winning does matter.
You also can't fault him for believing he could turn this around. We all believe we can do our jobs well.
Best of luck and good health Coach. Thank you for your commitment to Lafayette.
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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2016 3:50 pm

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One-year buyout confirmed by The Lafayette:
    "Sources told The Lafayette that Tavani said in a meeting with his players that his departure was prompted by a buyout needed because the college did not give him a year’s notice that his contract, which expired at the end of the 2016 season, would not be renewed. Tavani has not yet responded to The Lafayette’s requests for comment, and Athletics Director Bruce McCutcheon declined to comment on topics relating to personnel issues in accordance with college policy."
https://www.lafayettestudentnews....t-return-next-season-sources-say/
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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2016 4:41 pm

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team meeting with Bruce at 5. no Coach Frank

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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2016 5:17 pm

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So reading between the lines on the contract... Bruce cost Lafayette probably $250K+ because he let Tavani's status dangle and put in a clause that he needs one year?  In a sense, that's a poison pill!  Who would want to recruit LC if the coach is gone?

So Tavani was assuming that he would be back since Bruce did not give him notification... all of his comments and posture seem to indicate that... he was playing chicken with the school.. Tavani knew he had McC's chain.

That is completely irresponsible management by McCutcheon.
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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2016 5:35 pm

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Pard4Life wrote:
So reading between the lines on the contract... Bruce cost Lafayette probably $250K+ because he let Tavani's status dangle and put in a clause that he needs one year?  In a sense, that's a poison pill!  Who would want to recruit LC if the coach is gone?

So Tavani was assuming that he would be back since Bruce did not give him notification... all of his comments and posture seem to indicate that... he was playing chicken with the school.. Tavani knew he had McC's chain.

That is completely irresponsible management by McCutcheon.


I'm not so sure I agree.  A one-year notice clause is pretty common in any high level employment contract.  The AD knew that the college would be on the line for the buyout no matter what (unless Tavani retired voluntarily).  Nobody anywhere is going to tell the Head Coach a year in advance that his contract won't be renewed, so the buyout is just the cost of dismissing a very long-tenured coach.
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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2016 5:57 pm

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Many thanks to Coach T for rebuilding the rapport with administration early on that was damaged by Coach Russo's departure.  Many thanks to Coach T for resurrecting the program and, more importantly, for being at the helm when some of the finest football facilities in the country were financed and built.  For any of us that played in the prior era(s), the current facilities are truly amazing.

Now, it is time for the school to hire a hungry young coach, who will build a staff that includes hungry young assistants and put these facilities to their best use.  The school did it before, it can do it again...
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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2016 6:51 pm

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Pard4Life wrote:
So reading between the lines on the contract... Bruce cost Lafayette probably $250K+ because he let Tavani's status dangle and put in a clause that he needs one year?  In a sense, that's a poison pill!  Who would want to recruit LC if the coach is gone?

So Tavani was assuming that he would be back since Bruce did not give him notification... all of his comments and posture seem to indicate that... he was playing chicken with the school.. Tavani knew he had McC's chain.

That is completely irresponsible management by McCutcheon.


it's basically a 1 year severance deal. but yes, Bruce could have done a better j9b or, been directed to do something different. he didn't pull this trigger by himself.

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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2016 7:02 pm

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One year of severance for a 30-year employee is not very much. There's no problem with that. Many people would be walking out with 90 or 120 weeks pay and benefits or more at other places.
Yes some would get three weeks and a guard escorting them out too.
One year is a good deal for Lafayette.

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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2016 7:34 pm

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Remember, Tavani is a tenured faculty member.  It's only his coaching contract that has been terminated.  He will continue to draw pay (I assume) as a faculty member with all the pension and benefits, etc. that go along with it.
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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2016 8:05 pm

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Bogus Megapardus wrote:
Remember, Tavani is a tenured faculty member.  It's only his coaching contract that has been terminated.  He will continue to draw pay (I assume) as a faculty member with all the pension and benefits, etc. that go along with it.


What department is he tenured in? Could he maintain a teaching role?

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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2016 8:31 pm

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Guess he could Bogie but I would bet LC bought out that option.  How many prospective HC candifates are going to accept a prior HC on campus looking over his shoulder.

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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2016 8:38 pm

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I don't believe Frank has tenure.  I know many have said he pretty much has tenure, but his employment contract with Lafayette is now over, and he is does not have any role with the school. If there is information that contradicts my understanding please share.  

Frank may have benefits other "retired" employees enjoy like access to the gym and library or something of that nature.  He may also have a pension just as a public safety officer or maintenance employed may ( not sure if that is the case).

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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2016 8:40 pm

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Lefty Dreisell kept an office down the hall from his successor, who couldn't stand him. He failed too.

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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2016 11:03 pm

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[quote="Lafalum:58302"][quote="NewXbo:58301"][quote="zenator:58296"]

It is now in the hands of the AD. Who is hired as HC will say a ton about our future direction. Any top candidate will require a big commit from LC in terms of support in terms of recruiting, hiring top assistants etc. Hope that we go that route.[/quote]

Unless there is a change in the process, the AD will not make the decision Coaches have historically hired by committee. You will be surprised when you see who is on the committee.[/quote]

I would guess no large long term supporters will be named, because they have in mind who they want. Without those supporters  the search has no credibility for me.


I am thinking there is a 60pct chance its Fein. That will not push me to open my wallet, or others!!![/quote

We need someone not currently on the staff.  Since we excel neither on offense nor defense,  a new coach and approach is mandatory.

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