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Who should be the next HC at LC?
Cramsey
23%
 23%  [ 8 ]
Loose
38%
 38%  [ 13 ]
Wroblewski
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Other
38%
 38%  [ 13 ]
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Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 6:09 pm

killaBeeView user's profile






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Who knows... with only 2 years of recruiting,  I do see Mitchell, Powe and Breedlove becoming solid a Patriot League players.
Also, Butler prior to his illness...
Seems like he can recruit and develope players

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Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 6:16 pm

bethlehempardView user's profile






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The defense did not keep Lafayette in games.
First half points:
Lehigh 31
Colgate 24
Georgetown 3 (yes!)
Bucknell 14 (adequate)
Fordham 41
Holy Cross 13

Average first half PL points yielded: 21.
That's for a half.
A quick count indicates 16.3 points yielded on average in the second half of league games.
Total, 224 points given up in the league.

*Corrected for first-half point average.

There was nothing good about the 2016 season.

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Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 6:28 pm

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killaBee wrote:
I'm hearing on the board, so many different names...but the one name which hasn't been mentioned is coach link.

For the most part the defense kept us in the games, and broke down from exhaustion in the 4th quarters.
Out of all the groups in player development, I'd say the linebacker group developed the most.
why not link?


I'm not saying for or against on Link but I will say he has yet to develop the players that can play the 4-2-5 well. I think Powe s the guy that needs to step up. Same position Brockman played.

As to coaches staying, I don't know the offensive guys. On defense I can't give enough praise to Dell and McFadden. Both can recruit, coach, and work hard. McFadden can also coach special teams.

As to the comments about what the coaches are doing, it's all of the above. They are in and out of Easton, doing some recruiting, while also trying to create options for themselves. Fein is the interim Mgr per se.

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Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 6:30 pm

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zenator wrote:
Have heard that Cramsey has the inside track but no decisions made.

There are several freshman, who will transfer out regardless. Others have open mind, but heard that not a lot of player support for Fein, who is blamed for offensive woes.

Not surprisingly, the recruiting class is currently very small with 10-12 commits. Normally, this is the time of year that recruiting really goes hot and heavy, but, with the uncertain future, LC will likely have a hard time landing other top recruits as well as retaining current commits.

Would be great if there is an announcement soon with the new HC also retaining some of the popular members of the staff like McFadden.


Very accurate comments. McFadden and Dell are worth keeping if they don't find something better.

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Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 6:46 pm

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That's  strange our defensive line and DB's were our weakness. The 4-2-5 is based around speed and pressure from the DL.  Bo was the only d-linemen fast enough to get any pressure..  and special teams was a disaster ...

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Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 6:47 pm

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How do you teach defense without hitting in practice? Did Link make the decision to not hit or did he just follow orders. Missed tackles, missed tackles, and missed tackles. How do you determine your best tacklers without  tackling in practice. Linebacker MVPs the last two years both lost to injury(Brockman and Bryant). Coach Link is a definite Link to some talent in southern states. Do you really know Link?

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Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 8:25 pm

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Sorry, the defense was really sub par at times and it really impacted all phases.

Tacking was horrific, both in technique and effort.  This really stood out against Colgate as some dudes just wanted to get back on the bus.

Lost of confusion and missed assignments in the defensive backfield, including pursuit angles that were inexplicable.  Some kids were never taught, or continually thought they ran a 4.2.

Looking completely lost schematically on several occasions, most especially against Army.  We simply couldn't or wouldn't cover the pitchman on the option, and the defensive staff appeared to have no idea how to scheme up that one.

None of this got better as the season wore on, and actually most phases of the defense regressed throughout the year.  The defense needs new coordination just as badly as the offense.

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Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 10:35 pm

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Who was the leader on defense? The quarterbacks for Army killed us. All three running quarterbacks scored at least one TD. Check out Kennesaw State. They run a 4-2 and in their 2nd year of football they went 8-3. They beat Monmouth 2 years in a row.This year they beat Monmouth 49=17. Monmouth beat Lehigh, our PL champions.

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Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 11:28 pm

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killaBee wrote:
That's strange our defensive line and DB's were our weakness. The 4-2-5 is based around speed and pressure from the DL. Bo was the only d-linemen fast enough to get any pressure.. and special teams was a disaster ...


I understand. Good points. Is that a function of coaching or the players we had? Our specialists were pretty good. Good kickoffs, good punter, good snapper, and good FG kicker. From there we were weak. Is that coaching or talent?

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Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 11:31 pm

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1990honda wrote:
How do you teach defense without hitting in practice? Did Link make the decision to not hit or did he just follow orders. Missed tackles, missed tackles, and missed tackles. How do you determine your best tacklers without tackling in practice. Linebacker MVPs the last two years both lost to injury(Brockman and Bryant). Coach Link is a definite Link to some talent in southern states. Do you really know Link?


As I said, I don't really know Link, as a person or a coach. So I can't comment. He does recruit the south. Frank made the call on no tackling. He followed what the Ivy League did.

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Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2016 6:44 am

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flyfisher wrote:
killaBee wrote:
That's strange our defensive line and DB's were our weakness. The 4-2-5 is based around speed and pressure from the DL. Bo was the only d-linemen fast enough to get any pressure.. and special teams was a disaster ...


I understand. Good points. Is that a function of coaching or the players we had? Our specialists were pretty good. Good kickoffs, good punter, good snapper, and good FG kicker. From there we were weak. Is that coaching or talent?


The specialists were fine, what was horrible was punt and kick return, and punt and kick coverage. Is that coaching or personnel?

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Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2016 7:51 am

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I think we're looking for stuff to complain about. Guys!!!! Ding dong the witch is dead!!  Why are we bitching about the defense?  We saw instant improvement when Link came in.  Especially against Colgate.  I'm not saying he's all world, but he's not the problem either. The offense was and has been the issue for many seasons.  

There was a definite lack of enthusiasm on the field that translated to missed tackles and assignments.  Players that, IMO, could have been named all-PL in their frosh year looked down right pedestrian this year.  That's not due to a lack of talent because this particular player showed he can accel amidst the big boys.

The talent is there. Depth is not. Something is missing from when they first arrive on campus through the following seasons.  We just made the first step in fixing that issue.  Let's hope this consultant helps LC take another step.

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Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2016 9:30 am

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edge29 wrote:
I think we're looking for stuff to complain about. Guys!!!! Ding dong the witch is dead!! Why are we bitching about the defense? We saw instant improvement when Link came in. Especially against Colgate. I'm not saying he's all world, but he's not the problem either. The offense was and has been the issue for many seasons.

There was a definite lack of enthusiasm on the field that translated to missed tackles and assignments. Players that, IMO, could have been named all-PL in their frosh year looked down right pedestrian this year. That's not due to a lack of talent because this particular player showed he can accel amidst the big boys.

The talent is there. Depth is not. Something is missing from when they first arrive on campus through the following seasons. We just made the first step in fixing that issue. Let's hope this consultant helps LC take another step.



First, well said, we are looking for problems.    I also agree there is talent on this team, and I believe a new staff will go a long way in the first season.  Depth is a problem, and potentially getting worse if we lose 20 players to graduation/leaving and only bring in 10-12

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Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2016 9:40 am

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The coaches are not developing players so there is improvement fro m year to succeeding year.Instead our players regress. Bill Parcells says tackling is all about desire. The macro view is failure by the coaches to develop the players.So what is our excuse for the poor tackling?How many times did one of our players make an initial hit and then fail to wrap up and end up sliding off while the ball carrier kept on going.That is the micro view - the desire has to come from the players.It's a chicken or egg analysis. No matter what it's a sad commentary when the good news on the forum is the firing of a coach.

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Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2016 10:28 am

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edge29 wrote:
There was a definite lack of enthusiasm on the field...

Something is missing from when they first arrive on campus through the following seasons. We just made the first step in fixing that issue. Let's hope this consultant helps LC take another step.


Yes we are looking for something to talk about (idk if complain is the right word, looks like guys are just discussing the merits of one coach staying instead of another). I guess this is what interest looks like, I haven't seen the forum this active in years!

But you are right, there has been something missing. If you look back at all of our in season posts this year and last we all agree that the team looked flat on a regular basis. They looked like they could run with the other team but not compete with the other team. All the best coaching in the world won't overcome a feeling of hopelessness the players probably felt after yet another loss.
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Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2017 12:33 pm

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XLeopard wrote:
Faragalli - in
Loose - in
Trox - in
K Clark - in
Wrobo - in
Hach - in
Heff - out
Partridge - hahahaha
Anyone on staff - out

If you have questions ask, I know more than you think.


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