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Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2016 8:43 am

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I, too, was impressed with Coach Garrett's desire to recruit renaissance men.  David Shaw, the HC at Stanford, was once asked what he looked for in recruiting athletes, and he replied, " I look for Stanford men."  Best of luck to Coach Garrett in finding a few "Lafayette men."

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Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2016 8:53 am

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I have had a busy few days so I didn't get a chance to watch the press conference. I'll have to check out the replay.

I don't know anything about Garrett, but at the very least it sounds like the college completed the search in exactly the right way. They found the top candidates, were not stuck in the "its the way its always been done" bad habits, and made the decision based on potential wins not necessarily the budget.

We could start an assistant thread, but unless XLep has a bug in the phone of the corner office I don't think we'll sniff out who is offered. Most candidates are asked about their potential staffs during the interview process. So, he has probably already reached out to his OC and DC before the announcement.

How the staff is structured will tell you a lot about his salary pool for assistants. He won't be able to pull active FBS coordinators or NFL position coaches, the money is just too different. But I wouldn't be surprised to see someone with FBS experience who is either out of a job or currently a quality control coach in the NFL. I also wonder if he and Rocco are going to fight over some of the younger coaches or position coaches from Richmond?
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Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2016 8:59 am

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The BIG question: Is he gonna put the stripes back on the helmet?


Also, I hope and pray - traditional colors ONLY. Maroon jerseys and white pants at home; white jerseys and maroon pants (or white on white) on the road.



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Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2016 9:17 am

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LeopardBall10 wrote:
I have had a busy few days so I didn't get a chance to watch the press conference. I'll have to check out the replay.

I don't know anything about Garrett, but at the very least it sounds like the college completed the search in exactly the right way. They found the top candidates, were not stuck in the "its the way its always been done" bad habits, and made the decision based on potential wins not necessarily the budget.

We could start an assistant thread, but unless XLep has a bug in the phone of the corner office I don't think we'll sniff out who is offered. Most candidates are asked about their potential staffs during the interview process. So, he has probably already reached out to his OC and DC before the announcement.

How the staff is structured will tell you a lot about his salary pool for assistants. He won't be able to pull active FBS coordinators or NFL position coaches, the money is just too different. But I wouldn't be surprised to see someone with FBS experience who is either out of a job or currently a quality control coach in the NFL. I also wonder if he and Rocco are going to fight over some of the younger coaches or position coaches from Richmond?
Hmmm maybe I sniffed out one lol https://mobile.twitter.com/rsapolu65?p=s
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Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2016 9:20 am

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Andy wrote:
Franks Tanks wrote:
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I was very much pleased to see Paul Reinhard in attendance.


Paul, and to a lesser extent Brad, seemed to ask questions from Frank's wheel of excuses.

What about redshirting?

What about roster sizes?

What about academic standards?

I wish Garrett would've shut em down, but he was being polite. Every program has challenges, but the positives of this school for out weight the issues that much be dealt with.


YES! Throwing out all the supposed impediments to success and so "why LC?" Some questions or preludes to questions almost seemed like knocks on the guy. Disappointed in PR. Maybe could've asked "Will you be boarding the team bus with your players or will you have it stop by your house on the way out?" Things had gotten out of hand around here and we needed a change. Some I guess still dont believe it.

Will use bogies link -thanks!- to relisten. One good question was re the QB situation. I believe Coach said "We will bring in several in this class..." Presumably he has some kids in mind from his recruiting efforts. The staff has one good one committed that I know of - Northrup.



Bring in the QB's... and lets have competition....

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Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2016 9:54 am

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Morning Call article says we are not at max scholarship levels.   I thought we were (including those sponsored by the alumni).   If not, hopefully Garrett has righted that wrong during the hiring process

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Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2016 10:06 am

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BillS wrote:
Hmmm maybe I sniffed out one lol https://mobile.twitter.com/rsapolu65?p=s


Saw that!

I believe Rocco so far has taken 2 coaches with him from UR - the OL coach and the young LB coach. The WR Coach, Fontel Mines, played for JG at UVA, and, based on a Youtube interview, got his free agent shot thanks to JG. I could see Coach Mines coming in.

http://www.richmondspiders.com/ViewArticle.dbml?ATCLID=205358162

Also, I got a kick out of several "miked up" videos featuring JG as an asst. Think this guy will be a bit more involved than what we're used to:

UVA: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=481EKKqAXAA

OSU: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=x6Q_c3rEpqA


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Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2016 10:23 am

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Andy wrote:
BillS wrote:
Hmmm maybe I sniffed out one lol https://mobile.twitter.com/rsapolu65?p=s


Saw that!

I believe Rocco so far has taken 2 coaches with him from UR - the OL coach and the young LB coach. The WR Coach, Fontel Mines, played for JG at UVA, and, based on a Youtube interview, got his free agent shot thanks to JG. I could see Coach Mines coming in.

http://www.richmondspiders.com/ViewArticle.dbml?ATCLID=205358162

Also, I got a kick out of several "miked up" videos featuring JG as an asst. Think this guy will be a bit more involved than what we're used to:https:

UVA: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=481EKKqAXAA

OSU: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=x6Q_c3rEpqA


Agree on Mines.  Garrett really likes him, and I think he would be a great asset for us.  

There was discussion about how we were down a few scholarships due to a ridiculous accounting preference regarding the way the alumni funded scholarships were distributed.  It was just a stupid buercratic issue likely stemming from Bruce's inability to fight for anything.  This was a very minor issue, and one that would be rectified as a result of this hiring process and study.  Give the man 60 rides, which I believe they have done.  With a few defections and maybe 2 or 3 rides handed back coach should be able to bring in a couple of his own recruits before signing day.  

Paul had to mention the 2 or 3 rides we were down, as if that was the reason the program sucked.  This was an often used excuse by Frank to explain away his problems.  Bucknell by the way has about 50 rides per what I've heard, and they crushed us 2 years in a row.  Issues like this I believe will be solved.

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Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2016 10:35 am

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PardDad71 wrote:
Morning Call article says we are not at max scholarship levels. I thought we were (including those sponsored by the alumni). If not, hopefully Garrett has righted that wrong during the hiring process


Dad you may well already have more info than we non-insiders. My understanding is that we have not been at the full 60 level. FoF was to fund one scholarship per year, then the college threw in a monkey wrench demanding the money up front. This was not well received.

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Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2016 10:47 am

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Franks Tanks wrote:
Andy wrote:
BillS wrote:
Hmmm maybe I sniffed out one lol https://mobile.twitter.com/rsapolu65?p=s


Saw that!

I believe Rocco so far has taken 2 coaches with him from UR - the OL coach and the young LB coach. The WR Coach, Fontel Mines, played for JG at UVA, and, based on a Youtube interview, got his free agent shot thanks to JG. I could see Coach Mines coming in.

http://www.richmondspiders.com/ViewArticle.dbml?ATCLID=205358162

Also, I got a kick out of several "miked up" videos featuring JG as an asst. Think this guy will be a bit more involved than what we're used to:https:

UVA: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=481EKKqAXAA

OSU: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=x6Q_c3rEpqA


Agree on Mines. Garrett really likes him, and I think he would be a great asset for us.

There was discussion about how we were down a few scholarships due to a ridiculous accounting preference regarding the way the alumni funded scholarships were distributed. It was just a stupid buercratic issue likely stemming from Bruce's inability to fight for anything. This was a very minor issue, and one that would be rectified as a result of this hiring process and study. Give the man 60 rides, which I believe they have done. With a few defections and maybe 2 or 3 rides handed back coach should be able to bring in a couple of his own recruits before signing day.

Paul had to mention the 2 or 3 rides we were down, as if that was the reason the program sucked. This was an often used excuse by Frank to explain away his problems. Bucknell by the way has about 50 rides per what I've heard, and they crushed us 2 years in a row. Issues like this I believe will be solved.


60 shouldve been concession number one and a decent salary pool as well. Hopefully...  Interesting point you've made Tanks about JG possibly acting as OC, is there precedent for that?

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Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2016 11:46 am

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Unfortunately, the student newspaper mailed it in. Could you be more disinterested:

https://www.lafayettestudentnews....fayettes-new-football-head-coach/

This is in stark contrast to the excellent piece by Keating following Frank's dismissal.

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Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2016 11:58 am

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Andy wrote:
Unfortunately, the student newspaper mailed it in. Could you be more disinterested:

https://www.lafayettestudentnews....fayettes-new-football-head-coach/

This is in stark contrast to the excellent piece by Keating following Frank's dismissal.


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Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2016 11:59 am

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Andy wrote:
Unfortunately, the student newspaper mailed it in. Could you be more disinterested:

https://www.lafayettestudentnews....fayettes-new-football-head-coach/

This is in stark contrast to the excellent piece by Keating following Frank's dismissal.


It wasn't even written by the sports editor. I think this group on the school newspaper is some of the poorest in years. Too bad, four or five years ago we had a great group there.

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Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2016 12:12 pm

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BillS wrote:
Hmmm maybe I sniffed out one lol https://mobile.twitter.com/rsapolu65?p=s


This could definitely be his plan for the OL, and a hire that Frank would not have been able to make. Frank just doesn't have the connections in FBS. But to pull a guy like this, a GA at Nebraska who I am assuming Coach Garrett knows well, would be a win. Coach Garrett gets someone that he knows, who probably has experience with his system. You also get a young hungry coach who wants to make a name for himself. Lafayette would probably be his first full-time gig as a position coach. That means he would probably be looking to move on or move up in a few years, but that could be a really good thing. You would also get him for a lot less than Frank was paying Stan, and he would be happy about it.
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Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2016 12:58 pm

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I think that this is a great hire by the school, and I look forward to seeing how this move impacts the broader cultural issues in LC athletics that are frequently discussed on this board.

Being of a certain age and having an appreciation of history, I think it is interesting that as the new HC of Lafayette football, Coach Garrett is following a path similar to that of his father, Jim Garrett, who was brought in by Columbia in 1985 to turn around their football team (see links below).  I do not expect a similar outcome.

http://www.nytimes.com/1985/09/22...a-s-coach-furious-after-rout.html

http://www.nytimes.com/1985/09/24...mes-jim-garrett-4th-and-long.html

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Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2016 1:07 pm

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Andy wrote:
Unfortunately, the student newspaper mailed it in. Could you be more disinterested:

https://www.lafayettestudentnews....fayettes-new-football-head-coach/

This is in stark contrast to the excellent piece by Keating following Frank's dismissal.


Finals ended Monday and the kids are away.  I imagine the newspaper has a skeleton crew right now

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Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2016 1:32 pm

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I did notice in the presser how enthusiastically President Byerly was clapping at the end.  I know very little about her, so maybe it is just her personality.  

But, I highly doubt that either of our two immediate past-presidents would have been as enthusiastic.  Maybe, just maybe, we are really turning a corner...
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Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2016 3:47 pm

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WVPard wrote:
I did notice in the presser how enthusiastically President Byerly was clapping at the end. I know very little about her, so maybe it is just her personality.

But, I highly doubt that either of our two immediate past-presidents would have been as enthusiastic. Maybe, just maybe, we are really turning a corner...

I do think she "get's it." Maybe a little hopeful, but the review of the competitiveness of the athletic program certainly bears her imprimatur. She's probably trolling this board.  Wink

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Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2016 8:03 am

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I am pleased that HC moved rapidly to replace Frank before year's end with Garret for a number of reasons already raised by others.

The timing is important in terms of recruiting, since Garret no doubt has existing relationships with offensive recruits, who were looking at U Richmond, which is a fine academic institution. His hiring will hopefully be a stabilizing influence for our existing recruits as well.

I like Garret's approach and believe, at a minimum, that are offense will be improved, which is admittedly a low bar. With 20-20 hindsight, the failure of the offense to control the ball and take time off the clock repeatedly caused our defense to spend way too much time on the field and become worn down by the 4th quarter. Garret's comments regarding several of those close games suggests that he sees the potential.

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Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2016 11:00 am

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LC Dad - Do you also remember that the father was fired from Columbia after that season because the players went to the administration and complained that Garrett Sr was too hard on them and forcing them to chose between football and studying? But that led to his return to Princeton and to his sons Jason and Judd at least and possibly John being the only transfers ever accepted at Princeton for football.
I would also like to  state for the record that I was wrong when I said on this board that it was unlikely Lafayette would find a Bob Surace. We have - the big differences are only  that our coach is not an alumnus of Lafayette and was already at our level after working in the NFL.Nevertheless he is extremely promising.

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