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Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2017 2:33 pm

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Lehigh Valley Live has reported that Easton HS head football coach Steve Shiffert is not returning and among the possible replacements are former Lehigh QB Phil Stambaugh and former LC offensive coordinator Mickey Fein. No mention of Frank.
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Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2017 2:42 pm

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Makes sense to me.   Micky probably wants to stay local (daughter going to LC, wife works for LC).    Assume his son goes to/will go to Easton, so chance to coach his son if he plays football.

Frank has got his severance, I think FT only comes out of "retirement" for a HC job.   I think he would like to coach and win to make it look like he was the scapegoat.   IMHO he lost his fire and became complacent after 150, but he will never admit it

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Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2017 2:47 pm

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PardDad71 wrote:
Makes sense to me. Micky probably wants to stay local (daughter going to LC, wife works for LC). Assume his son goes to/will go to Easton, so chance to coach his son if he plays football.

Frank has got his severance, I think FT only comes out of "retirement" for a HC job. I think he would like to coach and win to make it look like he was the scapegoat. IMHO he lost his fire and became complacent after 150, but he will never admit it


I was just thinking last evening he should have retired after 150...For his benefit.

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Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2017 2:57 pm

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NewXbo wrote:
Lehigh Valley Live has reported that Easton HS head football coach Steve Shiffert is not returning and among the possible replacements are former Lehigh QB Phil Stambaugh and former LC offensive coordinator Mickey Fein. No mention of Frank.


Mickey would make sense at one of those schools where HFC is a full time job, but it's not at Easton or any public schools in PA that I am aware.  Mickey would need specific credentials in PA even if they had some sort of AD job open to supplement the part time HFC job.  

I can't see Frank coaching again.  He's not a teacher and he doesn't enjoy the grind of film study.  I can't see him being line George Chaump and coaching HS football in his 70's for fun.

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Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2017 7:58 pm

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NewXbo wrote:
Lehigh Valley Live has reported that Easton HS head football coach Steve Shiffert is not returning and among the possible replacements are former Lehigh QB Phil Stambaugh and former LC offensive coordinator Mickey Fein. No mention of Frank.


Wow! THAT will be a tough act to follow. Easton is in the top 5 in the country for all time HS football wins, but, don't seem to be able to advance in the state tourney. With the new classifications they are 6A with the Pitts CC and Parklands of PA.
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Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2017 10:00 pm

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The odd part is that Shiffert is being forced out. I guess disappoinyed expectations. Very hard for Easton to compete in 6A with so many top programs.

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Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 7:12 am

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Easton and Parkland have the largest enrollments in the Lehigh Valley and Pocono area. The knock on them has their being stuck in the 60's offensively. They have always been solid defensively, just vanilla on offense.
Both Spigner and Jordan lived in the Easton district but opted to go to Bethlehem Catholic and Notre Dame. Speculation was that these athletic QBs didn't want to make handoffs for the famed Rover trap play for their entire careers. Again that is a rumor, but, sounds feasible.
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Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 9:05 am

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They've been trying to get rid of Shiffert for years but he won way too often to make a sensible case. This year the Rovers slipped a little this year and the fans got their wish...Most high school coaches are  held to higher standards than our coaches - a long sticking point of mine.


The list in the ET seemed kind of thrown-together and random. I can't imagine Fein would want the $10K Easton job.

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Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 9:19 am

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Franks Tanks wrote:
Mickey would make sense at one of those schools where HFC is a full time job, but it's not at Easton or any public schools in PA that I am aware. Mickey would need specific credentials in PA even if they had some sort of AD job open to supplement the part time HFC job.


I don't know what they pay at Easton, but Franks is right. Public schools in PA don't have full time football coaches on staff. Most coaches are either the AD or teach a life skills class to earn their pay. And having seen the process first hand, getting certified to teach in PA is a nightmare. Not a cakewalk by any stretch. Not to say Mickey can't do it but it is a long shot.

If you told me he was going to become the HFC at Lowndes County in Georgia then I would believe it. The top tier high school programs in GA all have full time coaches making up to six figures. No certification, no responsibilities, just win. And half of them have facilities better than most of the PL.

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Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 9:26 am

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LeopardBall10 wrote:
Franks Tanks wrote:
Mickey would make sense at one of those schools where HFC is a full time job, but it's not at Easton or any public schools in PA that I am aware. Mickey would need specific credentials in PA even if they had some sort of AD job open to supplement the part time HFC job.


I don't know what they pay at Easton, but Franks is right. Public schools in PA don't have full time football coaches on staff. Most coaches are either the AD or teach a life skills class to earn their pay. And having seen the process first hand, getting certified to teach in PA is a nightmare. Not a cakewalk by any stretch. Not to say Mickey can't do it but it is a long shot.

If you told me he was going to become the HFC at Lowndes County in Georgia then I would believe it. The top tier high school programs in GA all have full time coaches making up to six figures. No certification, no responsibilities, just win. And half of them have facilities better than most of the PL.

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Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 9:47 am

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Kpard wrote:
LeopardBall10 wrote:
Franks Tanks wrote:
Mickey would make sense at one of those schools where HFC is a full time job, but it's not at Easton or any public schools in PA that I am aware. Mickey would need specific credentials in PA even if they had some sort of AD job open to supplement the part time HFC job.


I don't know what they pay at Easton, but Franks is right. Public schools in PA don't have full time football coaches on staff. Most coaches are either the AD or teach a life skills class to earn their pay. And having seen the process first hand, getting certified to teach in PA is a nightmare. Not a cakewalk by any stretch. Not to say Mickey can't do it but it is a long shot.

If you told me he was going to become the HFC at Lowndes County in Georgia then I would believe it. The top tier high school programs in GA all have full time coaches making up to six figures. No certification, no responsibilities, just win. And half of them have facilities better than most of the PL.

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It is crazy, but many southern state have much larger school districts.  I am aware of one district in suburban Houston that has 11 high schools, so a team can play an entire football schedule against other schools from the same district.  They have pretty awesome football facilities.  In PA, even in populated areas, there are tiny little schools districts all over, and pretty hard for 3-5k student districts, even in rich areas, to build a big stadium.  Obviously the high school football interest is larger in these communities as well, but the way schools are structured also play a big role.

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Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 12:35 pm

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New York State and Connecticut are the same.  Too many schools; too many small districts.

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Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 1:43 pm

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The concept of a full-time HS coach blows my mind. I mean I LOVED the show Friday Night Lights - but I always assumed that coach Taylor taught gym..or something.

The Easton job comes with about as high of expectations as a coach can have. They won't put up with anything less than 8-2 and a win against Phillipsburg. They also want a State championship - which means you're expected to win a rivalry-game that is among the nations most intense on Thanksgiving morning and then win a state playoff game two days later.

I can't imagine going 3-22 in Easton.
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Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 2:54 pm

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Easton is starting to dominate that series, something like 12-4 in the last 16 games.    Focus is undoubtedly shifting to winning championships.

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Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 3:11 pm

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The Easton Area School District includes Forks Township and Palmer Township. Both are growing communities. The Phillipsburg School District includes only Phillipsburg. It's old, completely built up, about one-fifth the population and in decline. I imagine the disparity will only get wider.

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Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 3:15 pm

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The Maroon wrote:
The concept of a full-time HS coach blows my mind. I mean I LOVED the show Friday Night Lights - but I always assumed that coach Taylor taught gym..or something.

The Easton job comes with about as high of expectations as a coach can have. They won't put up with anything less than 8-2 and a win against Phillipsburg. They also want a State championship - which means you're expected to win a rivalry-game that is among the nations most intense on Thanksgiving morning and then win a state playoff game two days later.

I can't imagine going 3-22 in Easton.


It is weird isn't it?  Especially considering that up until somewhat recent times, coaches at smaller colleges often had other duties as well.

The recently retired coach at D2 Slippery Rock (aka gym teacher U), was actually a PHD and full time faculty member in their Physical Education department. He was technically a full time professor, who was also the head football coach on the side.  Those days seem to be over for good.

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Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 3:17 pm

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My daughters' high school in Virginia is bigger than LC.

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Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 3:19 pm

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Easton has always had the advantage in that rivalry  historically - in a lot of ways.  But Phillipsburg kids are pretty tough and they normally find a way to make it interesting. They smacked Easton pretty hard in wrestling a few days ago - which doesn't happen often.
It's actually one of the best rivalries I've ever seen.

Still - you can't ask a football team to play in an emotional game like the Pburg game and then play a high-level playoff opponent 48 hours later.

It would be like us having to take on New Hampshire the Monday night after we played Lehigh.
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Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 3:21 pm

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Bogus Megapardus wrote:
The Easton Area School District includes Forks Township and Palmer Township. Both are growing communities. The Phillipsburg School District includes only Phillipsburg. It's old, completely built up, about one-fifth the population and in decline. I imagine the disparity will only get wider.


Correct, buy how's this for NJ govt. inefficiency.  The neighboring area is Lopatcong Township, and they have their own school district.  However, the Lopatcong Twp School District only operates schools until 8th grade, and then send their students to Phillipsburg High School.  The Phillipsburg School District is happy to accept those students, and charge a large per student fee to Lopatcong Twp.

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Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 3:22 pm

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Lost Again wrote:
My daughters' high school in Virginia is bigger than LC.


When I came to Lafayette, my regional public high school had over 4,000 students - in only three grades. At the time it was literally twice the size of Lafayette. That was very much one of the reasons I chose to come to Easton.

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