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Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2017 12:05 pm

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Two decades of futility is enough. The program was about as low when Grentz arrived and when her two predecessors arrived.
Good luck. I'm done with it.

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Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2017 1:07 pm

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Ransom Stoddard wrote:
bethlehempard wrote:
I see. So we can consider the WBB problem solved?


Ha. No. The program is at an all time low right now. The administration needs to hire someone who can repair the damage done by Grentz and build the program into a competitive group of student - athletes. I don't think hiring an established coach is the right move - I'd rather see a young, fresh face and give him or her a chance. We are a long way from the program being in anywhere near to decent shape. I fear the damage done by Grentz will take multiple years to fix.



Agree 100% about hiring a young coach, presumably someone who has had success at D3.   Bucknell in 2012 was at almost as low a point as LC is now.  Had just fired a long-tenured coach in the middle of the season for cause.  Player morale at an all-time low.   Had a 23-63 record over the previous three years, including 5-25 in 2011-12.    Then hired a young coach from the University of Chicago, Aaron Roussell.   He managed to sell a vision of a revitalized program to some very good recruits and turned the program around almost overnight.    The last two years they have gone 33-3 in PL play.    LC will be a tougher turnaround, but hiring a third aging coach who has been fired from her previous job is definitely not the answer.

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Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 11:07 am

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bison137 wrote:
Ransom Stoddard wrote:
bethlehempard wrote:
I see. So we can consider the WBB problem solved?


Ha. No. The program is at an all time low right now. The administration needs to hire someone who can repair the damage done by Grentz and build the program into a competitive group of student - athletes. I don't think hiring an established coach is the right move - I'd rather see a young, fresh face and give him or her a chance. We are a long way from the program being in anywhere near to decent shape. I fear the damage done by Grentz will take multiple years to fix.



Agree 100% about hiring a young coach, presumably someone who has had success at D3. Bucknell in 2012 was at almost as low a point as LC is now. Had just fired a long-tenured coach in the middle of the season for cause. Player morale at an all-time low. Had a 23-63 record over the previous three years, including 5-25 in 2011-12. Then hired a young coach from the University of Chicago, Aaron Roussell. He managed to sell a vision of a revitalized program to some very good recruits and turned the program around almost overnight. The last two years they have gone 33-3 in PL play. LC will be a tougher turnaround, but hiring a third aging coach who has been fired from her previous job is definitely not the answer.


I am going to contact Bruce and propose that the regular contributors on this board form a committee, or "college of coaches" ala what the Cubs tried in 1961 (see link below), to coach the team.  We'll do it for free.  It can't be any worse than the last couple of coaches.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/College_of_Coaches

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Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 9:24 pm

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Apologies if this has been posted previously.

I see that the LC search firm (Snodgrass Partners) will be soliciting candidates for another 8 days.

https://careers.insidehighered.co...04/head-women-s-basketball-coach/


Presume this means that the position won't be filled until the second half of May.    They recently missed a 5-day and a 3-day evaluation period - but there is now a long period before the next one.    Curious as to whether all of the assistants are still under contract and would have been out recruiting during these two periods.

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Posted: Mon May 01, 2017 6:57 am

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So we have waited until April 28th to post the position? And, applications must be submitted by May 8?

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Posted: Mon May 01, 2017 10:34 am

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I'm aware of a candidate who has a second interview scheduled. I don't know if that interview has happen yet.

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Posted: Mon May 01, 2017 3:57 pm

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bison137 wrote:
Apologies if this has been posted previously.

I see that the LC search firm (Snodgrass Partners) will be soliciting candidates for another 8 days.

https://careers.insidehighered.co...04/head-women-s-basketball-coach/


Presume this means that the position won't be filled until the second half of May. They recently missed a 5-day and a 3-day evaluation period - but there is now a long period before the next one. Curious as to whether all of the assistants are still under contract and would have been out recruiting during these two periods.


Bison makes a good point about the assistants and whether they are recruiting.

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Posted: Tue May 02, 2017 5:21 am

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The next coach is (hopefully) a five-year commitment at minimum. If that means mortgaging a 2017-18 season in which .500 would be one of the best case scenarios, then unfortunately I think we need to do that and take our time to find the right candidate.

Though, for all I know, the assistant coaches are killing it on the recruiting trail and a new head coach is all but hired. Fingers crossed.

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Posted: Tue May 02, 2017 9:30 am

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Six more days to get your application in.

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Posted: Tue May 02, 2017 10:27 am

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Marooner wrote:
The next coach is (hopefully) a five-year commitment at minimum. If that means mortgaging a 2017-18 season in which .500 would be one of the best case scenarios, then unfortunately I think we need to do that and take our time to find the right candidate.

Though, for all I know, the assistant coaches are killing it on the recruiting trail and a new head coach is all but hired. Fingers crossed.
We signed 3 recruits in November and have 13 scholarship players rostered for 17/18.
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Posted: Tue May 02, 2017 10:57 am

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BillS wrote:
Marooner wrote:
The next coach is (hopefully) a five-year commitment at minimum. If that means mortgaging a 2017-18 season in which .500 would be one of the best case scenarios, then unfortunately I think we need to do that and take our time to find the right candidate.

Though, for all I know, the assistant coaches are killing it on the recruiting trail and a new head coach is all but hired. Fingers crossed.
We signed 3 recruits in November and have 13 scholarship players rostered for 17/18.

Good to know. Thanks for the info.

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Posted: Tue May 02, 2017 1:19 pm

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Snodgrass Partners may be the next great thing, but are relatively new to the business of sports-related coaching searches.  Started out as a traditional executive search firm and started to dabble in sports (mainly tennis) in 2016.

Interesting choice by Bruce to lead a basketball search but who knows, maybe they will unearth a gem.

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Posted: Tue May 02, 2017 3:50 pm

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BillS wrote:
Marooner wrote:
The next coach is (hopefully) a five-year commitment at minimum. If that means mortgaging a 2017-18 season in which .500 would be one of the best case scenarios, then unfortunately I think we need to do that and take our time to find the right candidate.

Though, for all I know, the assistant coaches are killing it on the recruiting trail and a new head coach is all but hired. Fingers crossed.


We signed 3 recruits in November and have 13 scholarship players rostered for 17/18.



Yes, but everyone is now recruiting for the 2018-19 players.   Has to be a bit of a disadvantage to go through two scouting periods without a head coach on board.    Most teams have already put out a number of offers for this class, which LC cannot really do at the moment.

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Posted: Sun May 07, 2017 5:17 pm

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Grentz speaks. Not directly about Lafayette but ... ?

From Twitter

Theresa Grentz @TheresaGrentz12
What a true statement, especially if the kid is not as good as they or their parents think they are...
Coach Mac @BballCoachMac
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Coaches:

Are players today less coachable than they used to be?
Kids today don't know the difference between instruction and criticism.

End of tweet

From https://mobile.twitter.com/TheresaGrentz12

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Posted: Mon May 08, 2017 7:09 am

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bethlehempard wrote:
Grentz speaks. Not directly about Lafayette but ... ?

From Twitter

Theresa Grentz @TheresaGrentz12
What a true statement, especially if the kid is not as good as they or their parents think they are...
Coach Mac @BballCoachMac
Embedded
Coaches:

Are players today less coachable than they used to be?
Kids today don't know the difference between instruction and criticism.

End of tweet

From https://mobile.twitter.com/TheresaGrentz12


If you knew what she did to get herself fired, you'd know how laughable that is if that Tweet was an arrow aimed at her former Lafayette players.

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Posted: Mon May 08, 2017 8:12 am

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PG/SG Paige Saylor going elsewhere due to coaching change.

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Posted: Mon May 08, 2017 1:02 pm

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Andy wrote:
PG/SG Paige Saylor going elsewhere due to coaching change.


OUCH!  Shocked  Shocked  Sad  Sad

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Posted: Tue May 09, 2017 8:26 am

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If you knew what she did to get herself fired, you'd know how laughable that is if that Tweet was an arrow aimed at her former Lafayette players.
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Hopefully whatever the hell she did was enough to terminate her contract. Or are we paying her to stay home too?

If we are - Bruce's budget for a replacement may not extend beyond hiring Easton's JV coach.

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Posted: Tue May 09, 2017 9:12 am

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Application period closed. Decision to be forthcoming.For the sake of the women on the team it better be someone of the Garret caliber.This program is in need of major overhaul.Instead of getting better it gets worse.

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Posted: Wed May 10, 2017 9:45 am

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Still bummed we lost the PG recruit. Doesn't make sense.  

Maybe it does...I just can't stand the idea of watching us play without a true PG for another year - although I guess there are some options on the roster.

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