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Posted: Wed May 10, 2017 1:06 pm

justasoldierView user's profile






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[quote="The Maroon:61549"]Still bummed we lost the PG recruit. Doesn't make sense.  



I've been away for a few days and haven't seen any statistics on this player. You seem to be familiar with her, can you post her statistics and/or her high schools record?

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Posted: Wed May 10, 2017 2:07 pm

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Named to the IBCA "Supreme 15" AS team.

Stats: http://www.maxpreps.com/athlete/p...rsport/girls-basketball-stats.htm

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Posted: Wed May 10, 2017 2:46 pm

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Andy wrote:
Named to the IBCA "Supreme 15" AS team.

Stats: http://www.maxpreps.com/athlete/p...rsport/girls-basketball-stats.htm


6 assists/game is good most everywhere - certainly for a  hs player.

Hopefully we'll have an exciting charismatic coach who can win her back.

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Posted: Wed May 17, 2017 1:50 pm

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She's been gone 6 weeks now. I'll admit I don't know how long these things take but maybe the quick turnaround in football made me greedy.

I realize getting it right is vital - I'm just wondering what a reasonable expectation might be.

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Posted: Wed May 17, 2017 2:52 pm

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The Maroon wrote:
She's been gone 6 weeks now. I'll admit I don't know how long these things take but maybe the quick turnaround in football made me greedy.

I realize getting it right is vital - I'm just wondering what a reasonable expectation might be.



It's hard to define "reasonable" - but six weeks is very long.   Once they missed the two April evaluation periods, it became somewhat less essential to get a new coach on board quickly.   However, all of May is a "quiet period", where it is permissible to contact players via email, text, phone, etc and where it is permissible for players to visit coaches on unofficial visits.   Just can't go on the road.

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Posted: Wed May 17, 2017 3:43 pm

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bison137 wrote:
The Maroon wrote:
She's been gone 6 weeks now. I'll admit I don't know how long these things take but maybe the quick turnaround in football made me greedy.

I realize getting it right is vital - I'm just wondering what a reasonable expectation might be.



It's hard to define "reasonable" - but six weeks is very long.   Once they missed the two April evaluation periods, it became somewhat less essential to get a new coach on board quickly.   However, all of May is a "quiet period", where it is permissible to contact players via email, text, phone, etc and where it is permissible for players to visit coaches on unofficial visits.   Just can't go on the road.



Looking back at two similar situations in PL women's basketball:

1.  Boston U's Kelly Greenberg "resigned" 4/23/14 amidst an investigation into allegations on player abuse.   They hired the new coach, Katy Steding, on 6/25/14.   That's a very long process, but I don't think Boston cares much about women's basketball.

2.  American's Shann Hart "resigned" on 3/26/04 amidst accusations of player abuse.   Her replacement was hired on 5/6/04.   Hart ended up being fired from her next job for player abuse as well.    The AU process took 41 days.   LC is up to 43 days now.


And a few others:

1. Dianne Nolan "resigned" on 3.26/15.   Grentz was hire on 4/20/15.   That's 25 days fwiw.    

2.  Also Tammy Smith was fired on 3/8/10.  Nolan was hired on 4/19/10.    That's 42 days.

3.  Colgate's Nikki Hays Fort was let go on 3/10/16.   Her replacement, Bill Cleary, was hired on 3/29/16.   A 19-day turnaround.

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Posted: Wed May 17, 2017 3:45 pm

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The Maroon wrote:
She's been gone 6 weeks now. I'll admit I don't know how long these things take but maybe the quick turnaround in football made me greedy.

I realize getting it right is vital - I'm just wondering what a reasonable expectation might be.


Was this reported on our board?:


Lafayette Dirt…

   15 Apr 2015 Dirt

I have heard from an excellent source that there were 4-5 finalists to replace recently retired Dianne Nolan at Lafayette. From what I have heard, it appears the leader right now is Lafayette men’s assistant John O’Connor. The former head coach at Holy Family (PA) has been at Lafayette since 2012. He also worked at Lafayette from 2001-04 before landing on Paul Hewitt’s staff at Georgia Tech where he spent six seasons. It sounds like this search will wrap up shortly.////

Would they now????

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Posted: Wed May 17, 2017 5:41 pm

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Cant imagine it - have to have some experience coaching women's game and I don't think he did.   Besides that big blemish on resume his hard to get past for hiring committee at school like LC.

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Posted: Wed May 17, 2017 8:08 pm

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Andy wrote:
The Maroon wrote:
She's been gone 6 weeks now. I'll admit I don't know how long these things take but maybe the quick turnaround in football made me greedy.

I realize getting it right is vital - I'm just wondering what a reasonable expectation might be.


Was this reported on our board?:


Lafayette Dirt…

   15 Apr 2015 Dirt

I have heard from an excellent source that there were 4-5 finalists to replace recently retired Dianne Nolan at Lafayette. From what I have heard, it appears the leader right now is Lafayette men’s assistant John O’Connor. The former head coach at Holy Family (PA) has been at Lafayette since 2012. He also worked at Lafayette from 2001-04 before landing on Paul Hewitt’s staff at Georgia Tech where he spent six seasons. It sounds like this search will wrap up shortly.////

Would they now????

https://whoopdirt.com/lafayette-dirt/



You been drinking again?

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Posted: Wed May 17, 2017 8:11 pm

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justasoldier wrote:
Andy wrote:
The Maroon wrote:
She's been gone 6 weeks now. I'll admit I don't know how long these things take but maybe the quick turnaround in football made me greedy.

I realize getting it right is vital - I'm just wondering what a reasonable expectation might be.


Was this reported on our board?:


Lafayette Dirt…

   15 Apr 2015 Dirt

I have heard from an excellent source that there were 4-5 finalists to replace recently retired Dianne Nolan at Lafayette. From what I have heard, it appears the leader right now is Lafayette men’s assistant John O’Connor. The former head coach at Holy Family (PA) has been at Lafayette since 2012. He also worked at Lafayette from 2001-04 before landing on Paul Hewitt’s staff at Georgia Tech where he spent six seasons. It sounds like this search will wrap up shortly.////

Would they now????

https://whoopdirt.com/lafayette-dirt/



You been drinking again?


very very hard to believe

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Posted: Wed May 17, 2017 9:56 pm

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It has to be a woman in this position. It just has to. I know there are some very good men coaching women's bball but I think a woman is most appropriate on College Hill. Just my 2˘ for whatever reason.

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Posted: Thu May 18, 2017 8:24 am

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My 2 cents - How long did the search to replace Bruce go on ? Apparently no one else wanted the job and Bruce stayed on. Maybe the same situation here with Grentz except you can't bring back a fired coach who left in extremis.Sorry to rain on the parade but our alma mater is known as a coaches' graveyard.Who would want to take over a program as far down in the dump as this one which is also burdened by the institutional sports malaise. Also a study report of unknown dimensions is due. Further we don't know what kind of crazy goings on plague the Athletic department under Bruce's failing leadership.It's a perfect storm of discouragement.Add to all this the need to bring in some one with impeccable credentials and instant credibility like Coach Garrett.

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Posted: Thu May 18, 2017 10:45 am

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The Garrett hire places a high bar for future coaching hires, for sure.

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Posted: Thu May 18, 2017 11:49 am

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Candidates for the position are being interviewed the week of May 22.

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Posted: Thu May 18, 2017 11:52 am

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This is an opportunity to bring in a qualified African American woman. There are many who are assistants and were great players. Few are head coaches.
The talent and experience are out there.
Lafayette's first two coaches in the early days did well. Then we had a 20-year titan, faltering toward the end. Then we tried a D3 coach, then a D1 coach, then a Hall of Fame coach.
Either make a big bold move now or drop the team. League rules be damned.
Go big or it's "Dead Program Walking."

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Posted: Thu May 18, 2017 3:52 pm

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We should hire the BEST CANDIDATE, not necessarily someone of Japanese or German or African American or any candidate of a particular descent. Lets hire the best candidate.  Doesn't mater if it's male or female.

We had a male head coach for field hockey and he did fine. Didn't matter he coached a women's team. He was the best candidate. Unfortunately we wouldn't pay him what he was worth and he moved on.

This is typical liberal thinking, we need to have one of these, one of those, etc. Let's hire the best person for the job.

This should be the AD's decision, not some committee. When you try to satisfy everybody you satisfy nobody and the result is not the best.

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Posted: Thu May 18, 2017 3:55 pm

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justasoldier wrote:
We should hire the BEST CANDIDATE, not necessarily someone of Japanese or German or African American or any candidate of a particular descent. Lets hire the best candidate.  Doesn't mater if it's male or female.

We had a male head coach for field hockey and he did fine. Didn't matter he coached a women's team. He was the best candidate. Unfortunately we wouldn't pay him what he was worth and he moved on.

This is typical liberal thinking, we need to have one of these, one of those, etc. Let's hire the best person for the job.

This should be the AD's decision, not some committee. When you try to satisfy everybody you satisfy nobody and the result is not the best.


AMEN!
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Posted: Thu May 18, 2017 5:22 pm

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How many times has Lafayette hired the best coaching candidate, even a good candidate? For anything?
How many fans only realized FT had to go in the last couple games?
How many still blindly support our lifetime, happy, contented stress-free lifetime losers?
How many wanted former assistants for football?
It's time for this school to do something bold and do something well.
Otherwise Lafayette is on the Road to Division Three or dropping sports.
Lafayette futility is making the school a joke.
The WBB coach has to be a woman. Say what nonsense you will about politics, it has to be a woman.

The talent pool among African American women is deep. It's time for this.


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Posted: Thu May 18, 2017 5:44 pm

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This should be the AD's decision, not some committee.

In a normal world yes, but Bruce hasn't proven he is up to the task.

The WBB coach has to be a woman.

You can make an argument that the best three coaches in the league are men: Roussell, Magarity, Gibbons.  At worst, they are in the top 5.

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Posted: Thu May 18, 2017 6:40 pm

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The greatest WBB coach of all time is of course a man.
If there is truly a clearly best candidate who doesn't fit my ideal image, so it goes. I've been around enough hiring to know that choosing among the final three, four, five candidates can be difficult. Hiring isn't a precise science.
I also know Lafayette's hiring history.
Considering Lafayette's history, moribund program and general lack of interest, I would like to see a bold move. Bringing in Grentz was a bold move. Alas.

Politically correct or otherwise, this program needs a woman coach. Just my very humble opinion.

So far it appears that the other two recruits are still on board.

Against all odds, Lafayette still has enviable fan interest in its sports program.  I fear that window is closing as fans of all stripes -- diehard, loyal, hopeful, critical, negative and angry -- are aging, and younger alumni and Easton-area residents are less engaged.

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