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Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 2:03 pm

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I am not a big fan of AU either but between recruits and transfers they have competed for the title several times in the last few years. They have even had some teams with the best talent that didn't win. How can you say none of the players on this and last year's team are good recruits? HC has done a good job with recruiting for sure, even Bucknell seems to each year before the season starts but AU certainly has some talent although no doubt they will be hurting next year.

I really wasn't trying to take a shot at our conditioning program in general, just making the comment that some of our big bodies are not ever going to be 35 minutemen unless we really slow down the pace for them. I agree that the HC center was more athletic and hurt us at both ends but he obviously has a high motor and HC's last center was not athletic at all but they played to him. I don't think our level of big man recruit is in that same league yet. Last year was just a case of teams adjusting to us combined with living and dying by the outside shot. As far as their defense vs ours, keep in mind the HC backcourt was listed at 6-4 and 6-3 and in the second half they overplayed our guards and we had no inside game to go to.

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Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 2:58 pm

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RePard wrote:
I am not a big fan of AU either but between recruits and transfers they have competed for the title several times in the last few years. They have even had some teams with the best talent that didn't win. How can you say none of the players on this and last year's team are good recruits? HC has done a good job with recruiting for sure, even Bucknell seems to each year before the season starts but AU certainly has some talent although no doubt they will be hurting next year.



Before last year - which was largely a function of an unbelievable year by Garrison Carr - AU hadn't competed for the top spots since 2003-04.    When they were at or near the top for those few years it was partly due to academic standards that hadn't been adjusted up to PL norms yet plus having scholarships in a largely non-scholarship league.

As for their players, I didn't say that none of the players on last year's team and this year's team aren't good recruits.    I was talking about their prospects for next year - when their entire starting team and two of their top subs have used up their eligibility.   When I said they hadn't landed any real good players for four years, I meant the current juniors/sophs/frosh plus the signees for next year.    Two of them are solid prospects (Hendra and Lumpkins) but none appear to be near the level of Mercer or Carr.

AU this year has primarily used eight players - six seniors (five of whom start), one soph (Hendra) and one freshman (Lumpkins).    The rest of their subs appear to be quite borderline by PL standards.   As for next year, AU has commitments from four H.S. seniors.    Some of them look like fairly good players, who may help them challenge for the first division down the road, but none appears to be so good that they can immediately replace the level of player that they are losing.    So imo Jones will only be able to avoid a finish near the bottom of the standings by finding a couple of very good Juco's.    The new PL academic rules may make that task harder.

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Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 6:22 pm

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I suppose if you discount all of their seniors and don't count xfers you could say they have had average results. I had expected us to have done better, sooner with our recruiting. You seem to know a lot about the league recruits. Have you heard of us still recruiting a PG that HC is also after? I had this from a very good source a few months back but we have since signed a point and I can't tell how many scholarships we have left.

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Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 9:37 am

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Never mind on the PG question. i just saw that the info is now public over on the HC board. Jonathon Lee from Hun. According to the story we offered but Lee is calling HC and Cornell his "favorites". I have seen Lee a few times and was really hoping we would get him, he takes no prisoners from what I have seen. He has a lot of attributes we lack. He can score, drive and pass and is very strong, plays hard nosed. He has played better than a teammate who is going to Rice. Let's hope that HC and Cornell fall through and we get him.

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Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 2:14 pm

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we have since signed a point and I can't tell how many scholarships we have left.



Doesn't that commitment use up the last available scholarship?

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Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 2:36 pm

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bison137 wrote:
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we have since signed a point and I can't tell how many scholarships we have left.



Doesn't that commitment use up the last available scholarship?


Good question. My source at Laf told me a few months ago about Lee and our offer. It was before our PG signing. I later asked about the scholarship situation and received a very fuzzy response. I asked if Lee was still a possibility and was told he was but the answer wss not simple. Also by then the staff had heard he was very interested in HC and another school so I don't know for a couple of reasons what is going on. We apparently use a variety of ways to fund players. I would have thought with scholarships it would become much more straightforward and maybe it will. You can be sure that any recruit that hears a complex story about a scholarship will think twice if money is a factor.

Lee comes from Flint, Michigan. for basketball fans that is code for "tougher than nails". Just what our program needs at the point.


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