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Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 11:13 am

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Maroon:  I think you make you great points.  Ever since pat brogan and John o'connor left, our assistant coaches have been ho hum.  I have heard good things about the current assistants.  We'll see how they do with recruiting this year.  Your point #5 has always baffled me.  For some reason we cannot recruit black players to our team.  I'm not sure how Bucknell and Colgate can do it but we can't.  Frank does a great job of it and these student-athletes excel at Lafayette.

Barry McCarty was a huge supporter of our athletic program.  I know he would work with the coaches on their recruits.  I don't believe the current Dean of Enrollment Services shares Barry's passion for sports and may be the issue.  something is wrong if a player is accepted at Harvard and not at Lafayette.

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Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 11:28 am

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The Maroon wrote:
How close did we REALLY come to landing Carrington? Would you go to Lafayette if you were Carrington? Who knows, maybe we had all of these guys jazzed to go to Lafayette and they were out getting a Leopard tattooed on arm when the call came that Lafayette denied them and they'd have to settle for (pick a school). Maybe...but I doubt it.


I guess the point is we'll never know how close Thomas, Carrington or Cohen were to attending because admissions didnt give them the chance to decide.  

When your premier program hasnt won a quarterfinal game in seven years something's broke and needs fixin. When kids we're rejecting are getting in to Harvard, Lehigh and Bucknell (the word is Fran really wanted Cohen) someone needs to explain things to the Dean.   We are now looking up at Army basketball and Colgate for petes sake.  I'm sure the powers that be are up nights worrying about it and are working feverishly to right the ship, doing all they can.

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Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 12:41 pm

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We have "bottomed out " because there is no where else to go!! We are the bottom!!!

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Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 2:30 pm

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We have been at the bottom for a while - sad part is we seem to be staying there and the reasons/excuses for it are getting old.  

I think the world of Fran, but like Russo, something just happens at LC when long term deals get made.   Maybe its a sigh of relief after years of working for years as an underpaid assistant - but the edge seems to get lost and the approach stagnates.  

The kids deserve more and frankly so do the fans, alums and parents since to a degree we are all playing for the scholarships.   If admissions can't figure that out, and work with the coaching staff to get decent kids who just also happen to be bball players - thats pretty sad.

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Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 4:36 pm

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.....the future will be better, I promise.

That is how Fran signed off of his post game radio interview with Dick Hammer last night. I'm sure he's as competitive as the next guy, and maybe more. I can't believe for one minute that he's OK with an 8-22 record, long term deal or not. He knows what his legacy is going to be and the * that will go into part of it due to lack of scholarships is no longer in play. I'm encouraged by his statement.

On another vein, face it, money talks. There are no Bourger's or Fisher's tossing cash at the college for hoops. Not that you need a bundle of cash to run a bball program, but, if you're contributing big bucks and hoops is your baby, our admin. (or any admin.) would make it work.

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Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 5:04 pm

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Kiltedpard:  good point about no big donors to the basketball program.   Frank has worked very hard at cultivating the football alumni.  Fran has not done the same with basketball alumni.  Not sure anything can be done in this economy.

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Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 8:25 pm

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Kiltedpard wrote:
.....the future will be better, I promise.


And I believe him. I thought the La Salle parlor trick was a little silly (he was never going to take that job) but we all do what we gotta do to protect our welfare.

I don't think for a second that he's just collecting checks. I am sorry if I implied otherwise.

I am hoping for a quiet offseason in that I hope all of our players are back next season. I think Brown was one of 6 recruits when he came in. The junior class also lost a couple of guys---both of whom we definitely could've used. I think Kari and Gruner are the perfect guys to lead a team---they both work their asses off. I am hoping this work ethic rubs off on some of the untapped talent in the class of 2011---there are a couple in the class who were mailing it in at times and it was hell to watch.

But there's no escaping the truth you gentleman have pointed out...7 years of first-round exits and we are now looking up at Army and 'Gate....

Geez....
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Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 8:25 am

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I [u]want[/u] to believe him, but not convinced we have particular reason to, and have not heard anyone Snoopy dancing over the incoming class.  

BTW anyone with insight - is Kari's return certain as I think he can graduate in May.

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Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 10:53 am

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He was not recognized on Senior Day which leads me to believe that he will be back.

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Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 12:05 pm

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What about Visockas (excuse my spelling)?  Will he be back next year?


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