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| Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 8:48 am |
Pard4Life
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A funny FYI, but the only non-college owned property in the Hamilton development (looking at the key) is Tavani's house I believe. And, it's not on the new map... he will probably be retired by the point this plan comes through. Otherwise I doubt he'd sell for a dollar. Just think of the utility and sewer relocation mess in that area... And the expense. |
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| Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 8:54 am |
Franks Tanks
Joined: 23 Mar 2007
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| Pard4Life wrote: | | A funny FYI, but the only non-college owned property in the Hamilton development (looking at the key) is Tavani's house I believe. And, it's not on the new map... he will probably be retired by the point this plan comes through. Otherwise I doubt he'd sell for a dollar. Just think of the utility and sewer relocation mess in that area... And the expense. |
Actually I believe Frank's house is owned by the college. Perhaps Franks house will be kept in tact to be used as a museum when the rest of the area is razed. |
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| Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 9:07 am |
TheTruth
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I wouldn't read too much into this Master Plan. As Lafalum has suggested, this plan is based on the College raising enough money, $400 million comes to mind. It's going to have to be revised to reflect the current and future economic realities.
Also back in 1994 or 1995, the College released a Master Plan. The initial version included a new building where Phi Psi is located.
I'd be shocked if half of this is accomplished before they do another Master Plan. Probably will be done after Weiss has left and the next President is on board. (not suggesting Weiss is leaving but this is simply the realities of higher educations) |
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| Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 9:31 am |
Pards Rule
Joined: 02 Apr 2007
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Location: Cherry Hill, NJ
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Agreed on the ridiculous concept of locating a residence hall in front of Pardee. That will never fly - and I wasn't a Zete or any Greek period. It just would totally detract from the Pardee setting. No further discussion on that one! If LC wants to do new residence halls, locate them in the eastern expansion zone. That would tie the campus together and not ruin a great green space in front of Pardee. |
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| Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 9:36 am |
Pard94
Joined: 24 Feb 2007
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Location: Weare, NH
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| Pards Rule wrote: | | Agreed on the ridiculous concept of locating a residence hall in front of Pardee. That will never fly - and I wasn't a Zete or any Greek period. It just would totally detract from the Pardee setting. No further discussion on that one! If LC wants to do new residence halls, locate them in the eastern expansion zone. That would tie the campus together and not ruin a great green space in front of Pardee. |
I think you guys may be misreading the plan for the residence hall in question. The plan goes out of it's way of perserving an enhnacing all existing green space very much including the lawn. They are talking about getting rid of the Simon center and building on that footprint. There will be no large building on the lawn itself. Rather the plan calls for the lawn to be framed, if you will with Pardee on one side and the new residence hall on the other. The lawn remains intact and "unimproved". I think there was some talk of imrpoving the sightlines of downtown from that area. Most importantly though...the lawn is safe.
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| Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 11:27 am |
Bogus Megapardus
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| Pard94 wrote: | | Most importantly though...the lawn is safe. |
Yes, it is. The roadway in front of Kirby Hall will go away and new residence halls will be built where Simon and a parking lot now sit. This will "frame" the lawn and give it prominence. I like it.
I see a new building next to Easton Hall (my freshman residence) in Phase One, framing what is now called the "Marquis Quad." Is there really room for this? This will really sandwich and darken Ruef Hall. |
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| Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 12:02 pm |
Pard94
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| Bogus Megapardus wrote: | | Pard94 wrote: | | Most importantly though...the lawn is safe. |
Yes, it is. The roadway in front of Kirby Hall will go away and new residence halls will be built where Simon and a parking lot now sit. This will "frame" the lawn and give it prominence. I like it.
I see a new building next to Easton Hall (my freshman residence) in Phase One, framing what is now called the "Marquis Quad." Is there really room for this? This will really sandwich and darken Ruef Hall. |
Are you talking about the only new building to be built on the Quad? If so that building goes where the surface parking lot is currently. My then girlfriend, now wife, used to get tickets for parking in some Dean's spot in that lot all of the time. Apparently that building is very important as it is to be the new Welcome Center/entry to the campus. That's probably high on the list of things to do first.
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| Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 1:19 pm |
DaveR
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| DaveR wrote: | | Lafalum wrote: | | I still believe we need to be bigger to be more fiscally efficient (2700-2900) |
The "Space Needs Analysis" on p. 39 indicates that the student headcount (2403) for the "Base Year" (2007) is the same as that for the "Plan Horizon". I could not find anything defining the year of the Plan Horizon. |
Found it: On p. 15 of the Appendix, it is stated: "The planning horizon for this study is assumed to be approximately 5 years from Fall 2007 at which time the College wishes to maintain a steady state enrollment level of approximately 2,400 students."
From the extent of the plan, however, it seems more long term (as others have pointed out).
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