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Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2016 10:29 am

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http://www.mcall.com/news/local/e...ege-expansion-20160722-story.html
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Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2016 10:43 am

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Buy out Campus Pizza?!?!?!?!  Blasphemy!!!!!!!




Otherwise, this sounds good to me.

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Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2016 11:49 am

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The Express will probably have an article next week. Waiting to see if Tony Rhodin's house is on the demo list.
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Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2016 1:29 pm

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Rhodin will put together a photo gallery of the buildings to be demolished.

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Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2016 2:13 pm

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adcs2 wrote:
Rhodin will put together a photo gallery of the buildings to be demolished.


along with plenty of complaining about "lost tax revenue" in the comment section

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Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2016 2:22 pm

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Sounds like a solid plan although I would allow Campus Pizza to run their business in the business part of the development. They would of course pay rent.

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Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2016 12:27 pm

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The Express will probably have an article next week. Waiting to see if Tony Rhodin's house is on the demo list.


Unlike the Mcall article, it will be meandering and go in and out of the facts while ensuring that those who are against it - no matter how removed they are from the matter - get the chance to poo-poo it.

One would hope the increase in tuition would help out the athletic department, but we'll find a way to screw that up!

But I'm getting ahead of myself on that one.
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Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2016 8:24 am

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The Maroon wrote:
Unlike the Mcall article, it will be meandering and go in and out of the facts while ensuring that those who are against it - no matter how removed they are from the matter - get the chance to poo-poo it.

Well, newspapers do need to become more Internet-friendly if they want to survive, and nothing screams "Internet" quite like that!

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Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2016 2:43 pm

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Lafalum wrote:
Sounds like a solid plan although I would allow Campus Pizza to run their business in the business part of the development. They would of course pay rent.


Agreed.  I wonder what other retail businesses they are considering.

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Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 8:23 am

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ed65 wrote:
Agreed. I wonder what other retail businesses they are considering.


Unless I am missing out on any new retail expansion on March St., I think the  businesses that may end up uprooted are the Lafayette Cleaners, Campus Pizza, Cosmic Cup, and that Mexican restaurant if it still exists. I know the school owns all of the buildings around these businesses, but do they also already own these properties as landlords? It would seem irresponsible to announce an expansion if you didn't already have your hands on the land.

Also, did I miss something in the article? It sounded like this was just a new living area. These businesses would just end up displaced. And no way the college allows an outside business to sell food/drinks in a college owned facility. They have had a strangle hold on every food dollar (outside of the relatively failed Pard Dollars program) and they won't likely give that up anytime soon.
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Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2016 9:30 am

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Byerly/Panto press conference

http://www.mcall.com/news/local/e...lpha-building-20160809-story.html

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Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2016 11:43 am

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The plans are summarized generally on these pages of the college website.  The first one was posted on the college's Facebook page yesterday.

https://www.lafayette.edu/college...utm_campaign=travelways+promo+one

https://www.lafayette.edu/college-town/

I don't know when these were first posted, but no mention is made of the Skyway.

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Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2016 10:44 am

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LeopardBall10 wrote:
ed65 wrote:
Agreed. I wonder what other retail businesses they are considering.


Unless I am missing out on any new retail expansion on March St., I think the businesses that may end up uprooted are the Lafayette Cleaners, Campus Pizza, Cosmic Cup, and that Mexican restaurant if it still exists. I know the school owns all of the buildings around these businesses, but do they also already own these properties as landlords? It would seem irresponsible to announce an expansion if you didn't already have your hands on the land.

Also, did I miss something in the article? It sounded like this was just a new living area. These businesses would just end up displaced. And no way the college allows an outside business to sell food/drinks in a college owned facility. They have had a strangle hold on every food dollar (outside of the relatively failed Pard Dollars program) and they won't likely give that up anytime soon.


LB10 good points all. As a commercial RE Mgr, I can tell you that the negotiations started as legally they must prior to invoking eminent domain. There must be a good faith effort to arrive at a price before starting the alternative - but its much easier negotiating price when you have "3 wise appraisers" ready to make a final monetary determination, if it comes to that. FMV is FMV, backed up by recent comps. Personally I would like to see Campus Pizza, Mojo and the Cleaners retained as tenants in the development. I think it gives a good town/gown feel rather than the complete LC takeover of a nice marketplace street setting that you have there now. It would be also beneficial to College Hill, lest we forget those residents are customers too. I like the idea of a diner, however, parking must be addressed on that one. Not sure if they can fit all the concepts in the area discussed. I know parking can be done underneath the proposed buildings or underground perhaps (particularly for residence halls) but I think that type of concept wouldnt jibe with the College Hill type streetscape one would like to see developed on both sides of March Street. BTW can we change the thread title to Lafayette Master Plan for College Hill or similar as I think we would get more readers and input. A lot of folks would just pass over thread titled "Morning Call"..

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Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2016 3:48 pm

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Pards Rule - it looks as if eminent domain will not be necessary. Apparently the college already owns all the buildings (including Campus Pizza) that are going to be razed.

Click here for a look at the proposed layout.

I know nothing about it, but it seems to me that Campus Pizza would remain where it is, except it will be in a new building ("Building 2") with student housing in the upper floors.

Also I recall that the original Dan Weiss master plan calls for underground parking in the footprint where Watson Courts now sit (SW corner of McCartney Street and Clinton Terrace). No big loss there - IMHO Watson Courts are the very worst of Lafayette's housing inventory.

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Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2016 4:11 pm

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leopard88 wrote:

I don't know when these were first posted, but no mention is made of the Skyway.



"[W]e decided to explore preliminary concept designs for a possible outdoor elevator that would ascend College Hill from the Williams Arts Campus."

https://news.lafayette.edu/2016/08/08/accommodating-growth/

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Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2016 10:59 am

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Bogus Megapardus wrote:
Pards Rule - it looks as if eminent domain will not be necessary. Apparently the college already owns all the buildings (including Campus Pizza) that are going to be razed.

Click here for a look at the proposed layout.

I know nothing about it, but it seems to me that Campus Pizza would remain where it is, except it will be in a new building ("Building 2") with student housing in the upper floors.

Also I recall that the original Dan Weiss master plan calls for underground parking in the footprint where Watson Courts now sit (SW corner of McCartney Street and Clinton Terrace). No big loss there - IMHO Watson Courts are the very worst of Lafayette's housing inventory.


Agreed but back in my day (1980-84) they were the bomb and everyone wanted to live there! Shows you what 35 years will do to a place. Anyways, I dont see a diner speced out? If so, I would propose it to be on the parcel where the Gulf station sat across from Wawa. Thats the ONLY reasonable place. It looks like they are retaining some of the buildings that exist (maybe  LC doesnt own those?) which is nice in an incorporation aspect to integrate the new with the old. I think it will look sterile to say the least coming in there and bulldozing and putting up the equivalent of a New Urbanism complex. That would defeat the purpose and tradition I submit. I would like to see the bookstore incorporated in the Building 2 with Campus Pizza - I can see an adjoining layout and then incorporating a Mojo coffee shop in there also. I recall the parking garage concept for Watson Courts area. Do I see in this plan where Sigma Nu will be demolished? Does the admin read these suggestions?

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Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2016 11:00 am

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Bogus Megapardus wrote:
leopard88 wrote:

I don't know when these were first posted, but no mention is made of the Skyway.



"[W]e decided to explore preliminary concept designs for a possible outdoor elevator that would ascend College Hill from the Williams Arts Campus."

https://news.lafayette.edu/2016/08/08/accommodating-growth/


Suggestion, look at the design of the outdoor elevator used at the Otter Rock Inn in Otter Rock, Oregon where I stayed in Sept 1989 when Hurricane Hugo hit Charleston SC.

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Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2016 8:23 am

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Pards Rule wrote:
Bogus Megapardus wrote:
Pards Rule - it looks as if eminent domain will not be necessary. Apparently the college already owns all the buildings (including Campus Pizza) that are going to be razed.

Click here for a look at the proposed layout.

I know nothing about it, but it seems to me that Campus Pizza would remain where it is, except it will be in a new building ("Building 2") with student housing in the upper floors.

Also I recall that the original Dan Weiss master plan calls for underground parking in the footprint where Watson Courts now sit (SW corner of McCartney Street and Clinton Terrace). No big loss there - IMHO Watson Courts are the very worst of Lafayette's housing inventory.


Agreed but back in my day (1980-84) they were the bomb and everyone wanted to live there! Shows you what 35 years will do to a place. Anyways, I dont see a diner speced out? If so, I would propose it to be on the parcel where the Gulf station sat across from Wawa. Thats the ONLY reasonable place. It looks like they are retaining some of the buildings that exist (maybe LC doesnt own those?) which is nice in an incorporation aspect to integrate the new with the old. I think it will look sterile to say the least coming in there and bulldozing and putting up the equivalent of a New Urbanism complex. That would defeat the purpose and tradition I submit. I would like to see the bookstore incorporated in the Building 2 with Campus Pizza - I can see an adjoining layout and then incorporating a Mojo coffee shop in there also. I recall the parking garage concept for Watson Courts area. Do I see in this plan where Sigma Nu will be demolished? Does the admin read these suggestions?


1.  Was eminent domain ever even a consideration (had it been needed, that is)?  I know Kelo allows the use of eminent domain to transfer property from one private owner to another as a result of the benefits to the community.  However, I know that isn't a very popular option in most places.

2.  I also remember when the Courts were the creme de la creme (circa 1988).  Times have definitely changed.

3.  Sigma Nu?  What now?  The picture on the left in the link still shows my old fraternity house (middle third of the picture, cut off at the bottom).  It is across the alley from the parking lot on the south side of Clinton Terrace.

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Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2016 10:22 am

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leopard88 wrote:
3. Sigma Nu? What now? The picture on the left in the link still shows my old fraternity house (middle third of the picture, cut off at the bottom). It is across the alley from the parking lot on the south side of Clinton Terrace.
I believe it currently houses Alpha Gamma Delta (AGD) Sorority.

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Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2016 10:48 am

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BPard wrote:
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3. Sigma Nu? What now? The picture on the left in the link still shows my old fraternity house (middle third of the picture, cut off at the bottom). It is across the alley from the parking lot on the south side of Clinton Terrace.
I believe it currently houses Alpha Gamma Delta (AGD) Sorority.


I am sadly aware of that fact. Evil or Very Mad The "what now" referred to the supposed demolition of the house.

. . . but there is still a set of Sigma Nu letters embedded in the front steps (at least last time I checked).

http://sites.lafayette.edu/greeks.../2015/07/AlphaGammaDeltaHouse.jpg

5th step from the bottom.

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