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| Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 12:02 pm |
carney2
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Thanks, Mr. CHC for pointing this out to us. The overwhelming response to your post should make it clear that hoops is something true Pards worry about when Fisher Stadium is under too much snow.
A Q&D response to your OOC schedule post from someone who knows absolutely nothing: Fran is still a recruit or two away from coping with something like this. If "good games" means competitive games, I'm not sure this is the year. We graduated something like 4 of the top 6 from a team that folded like a greeting card down the stretch last year. We are (hopefully) rebuilding. |
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| Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 2:49 pm |
TheTruth
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Another tough out of conference schedule. Like the home games though.
Should be interesting as I heard one of our players blew out his knee recently. Visocki (sp?) Not sure if it is season ending or not. |
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| Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 8:26 am |
carney2
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I finally actually looked at this thing. How did we get Temple at home? Is Fran that tight with Dunphy? Too bad it's scheduled for 11/21, Lehigh eve. I have 16 people headed for my house for THE Game and won't be at Kirby. |
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| Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 8:42 am |
bison137
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| Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 9:38 am |
Titicus
Joined: 29 Jan 2008
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Location: Ridgefield, Conn.
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| bison137 wrote: | | 1. It's ironic that "true Pards" now mostly concern themselves with football when LC has a much greater tradition with the roundball than with the pointy ball. |
I'm not so sure we've had a "Much greater tradition with the roundball". If you're referring to the fact that we've had basketball coaches with greater national recognition than our head football men, then I'm willing to agree. But other than a handful of "big" wins in basketball, football accomplishments (particularly those of the '20s, '30s & '40s) overshadow anything we've ever done on the hardwood. I was on the hill for Fran's most successful years (to-date), which coincided with some ugly football seasons, and my feeling is that the student body and alumni have tended to place a greater emphasis on football, regardless. |
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| Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 10:39 am |
carney2
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| bison137 wrote: | | It's ironic that "true Pards" now mostly concern themselves with football when LC has a much greater tradition with the roundball than with the pointy ball. |
Those of you from schools that just play "schedules" overlook the fact that (quoting Frank Tavani) "we end each [football] season with a bowl game." THE Game trumps everything else that goes on in the athletic department - and it is a FOOTBALL game. (Hard to grasp by outsiders: it isn't a big game; it isn't even the big game; it's THE Game.) Other sports have tried to grab some of the luster when they get entangled with the ChickenSquawks, and hoops has even succeeded to some extent, but that one annual event elevates football to another level. I'm betting that it's as true at Lehigh as at Lafayette. |
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| Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 11:53 am |
Pard4Life
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| Titicus wrote: | | bison137 wrote: | | 1. It's ironic that "true Pards" now mostly concern themselves with football when LC has a much greater tradition with the roundball than with the pointy ball. |
I'm not so sure we've had a "Much greater tradition with the roundball". If you're referring to the fact that we've had basketball coaches with greater national recognition than our head football men, then I'm willing to agree. But other than a handful of "big" wins in basketball, football accomplishments (particularly those of the '20s, '30s & '40s) overshadow anything we've ever done on the hardwood. I was on the hill for Fran's most successful years (to-date), which coincided with some ugly football seasons, and my feeling is that the student body and alumni have tended to place a greater emphasis on football, regardless. |
Football definetely has greater tradition and history at Lafayette... we were a national program back in the day. I disagree about our head coaches in football, who are more high profile than basketball: Jock Sutherland, Ernie Nevers (one season, 1-8.. but still), Hooks Mylin, and Parke Davis. All are in the College Football HOF... for basketball, I can only think of Van Breda Kopff. |
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| Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 12:45 pm |
Titicus
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Location: Ridgefield, Conn.
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| Pard4Life wrote: | | Football definetely has greater tradition and history at Lafayette... we were a national program back in the day. I disagree about our head coaches in football, who are more high profile than basketball: Jock Sutherland, Ernie Nevers (one season, 1-8.. but still), Hooks Mylin, and Parke Davis. All are in the College Football HOF... for basketball, I can only think of Van Breda Kopff. |
You're correct. I probably should have said "I'm willing to listen to your argument." I was including Pete Carrill and Gary Williams (while I know neither was the head coach and only Pete is in the HOF) because they're association with Lafayette is fairly well-known. |
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| Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 1:07 pm |
TheTruth
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Don't forget Dr. Tom Davis......
I always thought we had a better history in basketball and baseball then football. Yes we were good pre-1950 but we had some very lean years from 1960-1982. We really didn't do much on the national scene until beating HC in 1988 (still our biggest football win in recent times). Then you have the playoffs in the past 5 years. I guess a quick check of the record books will help clear this argument. |
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