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Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2015 9:01 pm

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So I read these Patsies for the first time. I think XBO raises a good point. I'm not convinced how qualified anyone is to evaluate these kids.

There are some obvious good points. Kids with Rivals rating usually pan out. Kids with deeper offer lists usually work out. Beyond that I didn't see much. There is no research done to find out that maybe some kids didn't pursue other offers. A weak effort to get any accurate physical measurements and athletic testing. And the point about size of class is way off base. I would think the number 1 priority would be on quality over quantity. Each school only has so many scholarships. Offering more half scholarships over a bigger group of kids vs offering more money but fewer scholarships to a smaller number but more talented kids usually proves to be the more sound investment in talent.

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Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2015 5:25 am

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http://bleacherreport.com/article...ruiting-camps-and-the-star-system

star ratings are mostly for the fans and media, coaches recruit potential and what has been done on the field of play.

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Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 8:53 am

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NE Leopard wrote:
http://bleacherreport.com/article...ruiting-camps-and-the-star-system

star ratings are mostly for the fans and media, coaches recruit potential and what has been done on the field of play.


I agree for the most part. Coaches pay no attention to rankings and stars given to players, especially when they come from people not qualified to evaluate talent. What they do consider is actual performance at a camp. While they may not be in attendance at a combine, if they hear about a kid they dont know that runs at 4.4 or has a 40" vertical, or broad jumps 11', they investigate. You cant fake measureables. The colleges are now holding their own camps. they get to see the kid on their campus and work with the kid in drills. College camps are not much different than combines. See comment below.


"At Iowa, we pay zero attention to rankings, stars or ratings of recruits," Iowa tight ends coach LeVar Woods said. "However, we do use camps as part of our evaluation process. A prospect's camp performance doesn't make or break his evaluation in our eyes; it's just part of our evaluation. We feel that any time we can work with a young man at our camp and run our drills instructed by our coaches, it is a huge plus for our evaluation of him."


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Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 9:03 am

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flyfisher wrote:
So I read these Patsies for the first time. I think XBO raises a good point. I'm not convinced how qualified anyone is to evaluate these kids.


One more freakin' time:  There is no "evaluating" going on, and therefore no "qualifications" are needed.  It's objective, not subjective, and that's the beauty of it - if any beauty is involved.  Give a set of the rules (and there is a very precise set of rules) to a female theater arts major from Swarthmore (if there is such a thing) and she would arrive at the exact same ratings for each school as LFN.

Does it work?  Probably not.

Is it the best thing out there?  Decidedly, yes.
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Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2015 6:25 am

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As reported in the Hartford Courant, Lafayette OL commit Tanner Kern is a first round pick.

http://www.courant.com/sports/hig...ll-draft-0409-20150408-story.html

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Posted: Fri May 01, 2015 9:24 am

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Never at a loss for words that enrage you people, I point out that Georgetown - yes, that Georgetown - apparently just set a Patsy Point record when LFN announced their Patsy Ratings on AGS.  Since he is announcing these in a worst to first order, that means that Bucknell and Fordham have done even better because they are yet to be heard from.  Our old friend Sader87 proposes that "if GTown is getting bettah recruits sans scholarships than the other PL schools, those head coaches should step down immediately."
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Posted: Tue May 26, 2015 2:02 pm

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Good article on incoming freshman OL Tanner Kern

http://www.zip06.com/profile/2015...ough-xavierx2019s-state-title-run

One school, in particular, grabbed Tanner’s attention the most in Division I Lafayette College in Pennsylvania. Tanner will study economics at Lafayette with an aim to one day work on Wall Street.

“The facilities of [Lafayette] are amazing. It’s a great school. When I went to visit the school, I was amazed with what they had to offer. $33 million in new football facilities. They’re so cool looking and unbelievable,” says Tanner, who thanks his parents, James and Katherine, as well as Coach Marinan. “I was also pleased with the coaches there and the family atmosphere. A lot of schools say that they have that kind of atmosphere, but nothing compared to what I felt at Lafayette.”

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Posted: Wed May 27, 2015 9:36 am

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Obviously this kid is smart!

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Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2015 12:51 am

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Congrats to the 6 members of the 2015 recruiting class who started and won today. They scored 2 TDs, had an INT, KOs in the endzone,  blocking coming along(no holds, no pre-snaps) and a RB whose speed has to be respected.  Just a terrific job by these guys. Well done!

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Posted: Mon Feb 29, 2016 2:52 pm

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Congrats to Jerry Powe on earning the 2015 rookie of the year award, presented at the football banquet.  Big things ahead...

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Posted: Mon Feb 29, 2016 8:28 pm

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Andy wrote:
Congrats to Jerry Powe on earning the 2015 rookie of the year award, presented at the football banquet.  Big things ahead...


He had an excellent season and stood out from Day One.  Favorite play--and one that speaks to the level of effort he brought to each game--was when Powe caught a Harvard player from behind after he (the Harvard guy) caught a pass in the flat (#14 comes to mind) and was headed up the sideline.  The receiver is coming toward the re-play camera as you see Powe tailing him and diving at the perfect moment to trip him up.
Desean Brown, Mrazek, and Powe are from the Chicago area.  Good recruiting, staff.  

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Posted: Mon Feb 29, 2016 9:17 pm

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pardfan wrote:
Andy wrote:
Congrats to Jerry Powe on earning the 2015 rookie of the year award, presented at the football banquet.  Big things ahead...


He had an excellent season and stood out from Day One.  Favorite play--and one that speaks to the level of effort he brought to each game--was when Powe caught a Harvard player from behind after he (the Harvard guy) caught a pass in the flat (#14 comes to mind) and was headed up the sideline.  The receiver is coming toward the re-play camera as you see Powe tailing him and diving at the perfect moment to trip him up.
Desean Brown, Mrazek, and Powe are from the Chicago area.  Good recruiting, staff.  


Does Jerry stay at strike?  See what spring ball brings.

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Posted: Mon Feb 29, 2016 9:43 pm

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The 2019 Class took a good number of awards. Special Team MVP - Bissel, Scout D MVP - Dixon, Scout O MVP - Granjean, O Rookie of the Year - KZateveski & Chenoworth, DROY - Powe

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Posted: Mon Feb 29, 2016 10:56 pm

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NE Leopard wrote:
The 2019 Class took a good number of awards. Special Team MVP - Bissel, Scout D MVP - Dixon, Scout O MVP - Granjean, O Rookie of the Year - KZateveski & Chenoworth, DROY - Powe


Ah, good info, NE. I dont take those scout team MVP awards lightly,  usually predictive of future starting roles.  Good job by all.  I'll say again, lots of talent on this roster.

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Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2016 8:56 am

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Coming off a season ending shoulder injury, one of our prized 2015 recruits, Kaizer B. #29, is apparently now dealing with a very serious condition formerly referred to as Wegener's Disease.  We were expecting big things from him this season, but now, of course, we hope and pray for a speedy and full recovery. As Kaizer was recently entering the chemotherapy phase of his treatment, his thoughts (posted on social media) turned to others with the affliction, rallying them, encouraging them.  This is a true teammate and a special young man. Get well...

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Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2016 11:16 am

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I wish the young man the best of luck for a full recovery. My Uncle had Wegeners. Luckily they caught it early. With prompt treatment,a full recovery is likely. A grueling process tho.

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Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2016 5:47 pm

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Rich, thanks so much for posting.

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Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2016 9:25 pm

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Paul R with an update on an upbeat Kaizer Butler.  Get well. Fans will miss watching him this year.

http://www.mcall.com/sports/colle...l-butler-0808-20160808-story.html

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