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Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 12:05 pm

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Go to the Lafayette web site and see Weis' response as he would have liked it. Yes he did play into his hands, however I think the writer has a valid point while Weis tries to explain away the issues in his reposnse on the web site.

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Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 1:20 pm

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Wow what was that??

Yes Lafayette doesnt have the name rec of the Ivies or top 10 liberal arts colleges, but Lafayette is still a top liberal arts school- this guy just dismisses that fact  in order to make his pre-concieved point.

I understand his point about the cost/benefit of truly non-elite LAC's, but sorry I dont think Lafayetet fits into that category.  Schools like Moravian, Albright, Wilkes and Lebanon Valley may be better examples of this scenario.  Good schools that attract solid students, but also expensive and not-elite level.


You read this article the same way i did: this journalist had an agenda.  Unfortunately, Weiss played into his hands.  I would be interested in reading the ENTIRE interview instead of the bits and pieces found in the article.  I can see many of Weiss comments were taken out of context.


What I also find interesting here is that just before the meltdown The NY Times ran an article stating that the tier of schools below the Ivies, such as Lafayette and Lehigh, and also getting increasingly competitive and attracting great students.  These schools were celebrated for their standing and the students they were attracting.  I understand times have changed, but this is a complete 180.  It appears many who understand such things are critical of this article.

From the comments section
"As a former high school guidance counselor who has recommended Lafayette College to many high school seniors over the years, I was initially delighted to see Mr. Lieber’s article. However, his opening salvos stating that “Lafayette does not have the strongest name recognition” and “is not a top-tier college by most measures” stunned me–and revealed that the writer obviously knows little about Lafayette (a highly selective college consistently ranked and identified as a top institution) or about higher education."


I agree the name rec of our school could be better, but I do think he painted an incorrect picture to base his theory.  The theory hold water, but it could have been approached better.

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Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 8:40 am

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The schools that we view as our peers (colgate,bucknell, W and M etc) have already done it. They are not 2300 and even Colgate I am told by a very senior person there, is planning to grow ( they are already about 2800)
Our problem is that we depend on our endowment for 30 pct of our revenues, Lehigh is closer to 10 pct. Colgate is lower and so on. When we lost 20 or 25 % it is more significant for us. We should have not been 50 pct in alternative investments and someone should pay the price. In this enviroment it will be difficult to get us to an endowment that fits the current strategic plan. ( I have been told the plan requires an endowment of about 1.2 billion, but that included rises in tuition which are not wise or p
osible in my opinion)


Colgate plans very modest growth-perhps 50+ students over 4 years. I would like to see us the size of Bucknell.
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Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 3:19 pm

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Its not single handedly, all these things would not and could not be done without the encouragement and support of a BOT that has demonstrated it has lost touch with the real world and incompetently managed the affairs of our institution for the last 25 years!! This was not a flattering article at all!!


Make that 31.  It started with the hiring of David Ellis as President, and continued with 12 years of backpedaling as the Board tried to get him gracefully out the door without throwing a spotlight on their own incompetence and lack of judgment.  From there it has gone steadily downhill as the good ol' boys (and girls) appoint each other to positions of responsibility from their short list.  It's like Animal House's Delta House.  You really can't expect different results if this is the range of your "society" and the extent of your thinking.

Is there a recall procedure or other pseudo democratic process that can be invoked to unseat these jackasses?  Or is it truly the closed society that it appears to be?

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Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 5:38 pm

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