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Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 7:23 pm

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Found it:  On p. 15 of the Appendix, it is stated:  "The planning horizon for this study is assumed to be approximately 5 years from Fall 2007 at  which time the College wishes to maintain a steady state enrollment level of approximately 2,400 students


What were they thinking!! Even starting from 2007 that would have been a miraculous transformation. Not realistic!!

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Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 9:18 pm

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Lafalum wrote:
DaveR wrote:




Found it:  On p. 15 of the Appendix, it is stated:  "The planning horizon for this study is assumed to be approximately 5 years from Fall 2007 at  which time the College wishes to maintain a steady state enrollment level of approximately 2,400 students


What were they thinking!! Even starting from 2007 that would have been a miraculous transformation. Not realistic!!


Surprised   Right?  Finished by 2011?  I think not.  

Lots of this stuff won't get done anyhow.  Paving stones are a maintenance nightmare; the City of Easton will insist on existing vehicular rights-of-way for fire equipment, and the Sullivan green will just emphasize the monstrous monotony the is the easterly side of KSC.  Don't get me wrong - I'm all for campus aesthetics.  I just don't want it to look like a suburban shopping plaza.  

The idea is to make new things look as if they've always been these and are a natural part of the campus.  The disgracefully ill-conceived Farinon Center was a appalling failure to achieve such a goal.  I hope the other "improvements" don't follow suit.

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Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 8:41 am

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Bogus Megapardus wrote:
Lafalum wrote:
DaveR wrote:




Found it:  On p. 15 of the Appendix, it is stated:  "The planning horizon for this study is assumed to be approximately 5 years from Fall 2007 at  which time the College wishes to maintain a steady state enrollment level of approximately 2,400 students


What were they thinking!! Even starting from 2007 that would have been a miraculous transformation. Not realistic!!


Surprised   Right?  Finished by 2011?  I think not.  

Lots of this stuff won't get done anyhow.  Paving stones are a maintenance nightmare; the City of Easton will insist on existing vehicular rights-of-way for fire equipment, and the Sullivan green will just emphasize the monstrous monotony the is the easterly side of KSC.  Don't get me wrong - I'm all for campus aesthetics.  I just don't want it to look like a suburban shopping plaza.  

The idea is to make new things look as if they've always been these and are a natural part of the campus.  The disgracefully ill-conceived Farinon Center was a appalling failure to achieve such a goal.  I hope the other "improvements" don't follow suit.


I love the Farinon Center. granted they could have gone with a better color scheme on the inside originally but I like the structure itself.
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Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 8:30 am

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Ok thx Bogus for the interpretations. So where will they house the Simon Business Center then? Can they really demo a Simon branded building? I like the concept of the Hamilton green, but I wonder if the Welcome Center should be placed at the top of that hill instead to avoid the crowding of the Quad that will inevitably occur with the new residence hall. And why dont we aim for a student body of an even 2500!

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Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 11:42 am

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Pards Rule wrote:
Ok thx Bogus for the interpretations. So where will they house the Simon Business Center then? Can they really demo a Simon branded building? I like the concept of the Hamilton green, but I wonder if the Welcome Center should be placed at the top of that hill instead to avoid the crowding of the Quad that will inevitably occur with the new residence hall. And why dont we aim for a student body of an even 2500!


I was wondering about the name implications. Simon is a dump and should be demolished. However that other building in the complex, Junker Hall I think, was built in the 1860s and is the second oldest building on campus after South. Farber and Watson are the others slated for the wrecking ball.. both awful. The welcome center should ideally be where Watson stands now.

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Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 2:56 pm

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LOL Junker Hall - Jenks Hall it is..God, I remember when Simon opened in 1986. I went to an open house they had Homecoming weekend and it was Oct. 1986 - I think we played UNH that afternoon?? Anyway, haven't been inside there I beleive for like 20 years - has it gone that far downhill? And, wow Farber was still being called "New Dorm" when I was a frosh as it hadnt been "bought" yet and I think soph year was when the Farber family - in memory of their dead son who was a student at LC when he died - contributed the 50% plus $1 to name it. And what happens then? I mean, I think the family thought that the building would remain for at least their lifetime and maybe that of the siblings (if any). Are contracts signed for this type of donation? Is there a duration? Same thoughts with Simon - a major alumnus and benefactor and the only place named for him is going to be bulldozed? I know he died like in 2000 - is the widow still alive? How is this handled? Inquiring minds want to know.

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Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 4:26 pm

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Pard4Life wrote:
The welcome center should ideally be where Watson stands now.


You think so?  I was wondering about that.  It would be the first thing a visitor would see coming up the hill.  But do you think the idea would be to get the visitor into the middle of the "friendly confines" of the campus first?  Or it is better to have the Welcome Center as the very first thing one sees?

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Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 9:00 pm

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I think it should be the first thing one sees entering the heart of campus..The welcoming confines of campus are already there and evident. Like I put forth before, I think the addition of another building on the Quad would give it quite a claustrophobic feeling. There would be room next to Williams and the view out big windows looking down the Hamilton slope would be great! Not to mention a nice open air balcony a la Pfenning! I think my true calling was a planner...Oh well, I try to interject where I can.

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Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 8:31 am

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Me thinks Bogus Megapardus may have beat you to it.

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Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 1:50 pm

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Oops thought you were talking about Watson Hall - not the Courts. Well assuming they dont already have solid plans for the Courts, absolutely put it there. I think there is room for it as well between Williams Arts and Alumni Gym/Pfenning with parking underneath! There you go! Like I said make sure you have a balcony and big windows that overlook the "Hamilton Green"...Aye, Bogus and I would be dangerous together!


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